ICUQB4UQRU: thank you. please put some sense into that fool.
QUOTE(vncs1954 @ Sep 8 2007, 11:07 PM)

hey dumb b!tch..who's being a b!tch to foreigners now? vietnam is sucking every tiny south korean, singaporean, american and japanese penis that they can now to get ahead.
read the below, then stfu cuz u dont know $hit...also go onto topix.com if you want a real discussion, not this place with all these comrades who take turns at giving eachother handjobs while praising current and past vcp government's. (genom and asean haha)...
have fun suckers
Ho Chi Minh was never a nationalist, he (and vietnamese communist party) worried about his own persona and legacy to Vietnam as much as the dictators of the world worried about their image. He was a communist because no regular government would have listened to his crazy mind using it as a mean to his end. Just like Hitler, he (uncle Ho-"bác Hồ") was nothing until some desperates listened to his so called charisma. When he lead the Communists in Vietnam, he was a much as fault for the 3 millions killed during the war. He, himself ordered executions of countless civilians as they refused to follow him. He forced thousands of Vietnamese to labor and camps in the North. From the North through the South of Vietnam, people were scared of the Communists, that's why the exodus of millions to the South in 1954 when the country was divided. And again in 1975, millions more left the country because the communists took over the rest of the country.
Please refer to the movie "Killing Fields" and "Journey from the Fall" (Saigon - Ho Chi Minh city) as an illustration of what was going on with Cambodia and Vietnam.
in every post u always mention about sucking c0ck.....i wonder if u secretly want some c0ck. dont pretend to be a bullying prick when all u are is just a faggoty b*tch.
i can't put a c0ck in u, but let me put some sense into u, u un-educated piece of sh*t.
1. HCM tried everything in his power to get independence for VN and he succeeded. why are u being such an ungrateful b*tch? if it wasnt for him, u'll be sucking French c0ck right now. He was a nationalist and u're a disgrace.
2. why aren't u proud that Vietnam is advancing? it's not calling sucking c0ck....it's called business. u want people to do business with u, u have to treat them well. call it what u want, but in the end they're the ones rolling in the cash and improving Vietnam's industry while u're the one at home jerking off wondering why u're so broke and ugly. do something productive for once, u low life.
QUOTE(Tradtacular @ Sep 9 2007, 05:55 AM)

I'm not Vietnamese but let me clear up some things
1. The ROV (South Vietnamese) government was far more corrupt, psychotic and abusive than the DRV (North Vietnamese) government
2. The ARVN didn't do much of the fighting, they pretty left most of the fighting up to the US soldiers, which I would say is pretty sad and demoralizing on their part. The ARVN were basically lazy emasculated stripped tigers.
3. Of course you're going to have people sent to a reeducation camp. If say back then the KMT retook the Chinese mainland, I'm pretty sure the Guomindang would have all Chinese communist loyalists reeducated as well. The South Vietnamese government did worse things and would probably reeducate Vietnamese communists.
4. South Vietnam was also a decadent craphole where prostitution was a very profitable low-risk venture...I think it's sad when a country or government makes alot of money on prostitution. Personally I'm glad the North Vietnamese government ended or at least alleviated southern decadence.
5. Vietnam would have "sucked more c@ck" and would have probably had up their a$$ worse than the late Qing Dynasty. Under a completely capitalist system degeneracy (whether it be in the form of prostitution, drug epidemic or social liberalism) will most certainly arise...because of that, I sometimes wonder why "conservative" American rednecks want the south to win.
6. Vietnam started out communist but like the PRC, Vietnam moved to a more corporatist system and corporatism is much more effective than socialism or capitalism.
THANK YOU! i couldnt have said it better myself. it's sad to see non-viets more educated about vietnam's history than some of these fools.
and SoCal: sorry for steering off topic but the propaganda art does spark up these discussions and it also has to do with HCM and patriotism. But to answer ur questions - they are ugly as hell, the colors are repulsive and i would never buy one.