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GentleWind


Young people should read and watch
GreatAnabyng
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Sep 10 2007, 01:19 PM) *


Young people should read and watch


Jin Yong, i'm a fan of his work and the trillogy: condor heroes, return and heavan sword, dragon slaying sabre is probably is most best known work. Apparently Deng Xiaoping is also an avowed fan.
riversouth
i like condor heores trilogy.

indeed jin yong is a great novelist but sadly he retired icon_sad.gif.

his best creation is return of condor heroes, legend of condor heroe, demi-god & semi-devil, duke of mountain deer, flying fox of snowy mountain, smile and proud wanderer, and heavenly sword and dragon sabre.

all of his creations brought a political aspect into the jiang hu adventure, quite creative and a master piece.
Titanium
Jin Yong was a literary genius.
GentleWind
respect respect respect

riversouth
don't forget about gu long too.

he was arguably the second best novelist.
GentleWind
does he have a big dong
riversouth
no but he has a big sword icon_wink.gif
GentleWind
mine is bigger

Role Model
I'm going to read "Condor Heroes" biggrin.gif my curiousity is growing [ demi-god & semi-devil, duke of mountain deer, flying fox of snowy mountain, smile and proud wanderer, and heavenly sword and dragon sabre. ] I can't wait longer.....
GentleWind
at first i was confused i thought it was condom heroes
riversouth
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Sep 10 2007, 11:11 PM) *
at first i was confused i thought it was condom heroes

rotflmao.gif

do you know why it was called condor heroes? embarassedlaugh.gif

from all of jing yong creation, you can dated his novel from north song all the way to qing period, that is quite an impressive time fame for a person to write a novel with that much detail.

what make his work so good was all his novel pieces connect or in some way relate to each other.
Role Model

we all did... hahas
GentleWind
QUOTE(riversouth @ Sep 10 2007, 11:20 PM) *
rotflmao.gif

do you know why it was called condor heroes? embarassedlaugh.gif

from all of jing yong creation, you can dated his novel from north song all the way to qing period, that is quite an impressive time fame for a person to write a novel with that much detail.

what make his work so good was all his novel pieces connect or in some way relate to each other.



what condor mean
riversouth
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Sep 10 2007, 11:29 PM) *
what condor mean

it is a giant bird, forming with the word heroe, you get the owner of the bird. laugh.gif

is it? embarassedlaugh.gif

not condom rotflmao.gif although i thought about it too laugh.gif

oh btw, according to you, who do you think is the most powerful martial artist in the jin yong universe?
GentleWind
QUOTE(riversouth @ Sep 10 2007, 11:33 PM) *
it is a giant bird, forming with the word heroe, you get the owner of the bird. laugh.gif

is it? embarassedlaugh.gif

not condom rotflmao.gif although i thought about it too laugh.gif



you must be talking about me

remember birdinthesky or birdofhighseas

riversouth
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Sep 10 2007, 11:34 PM) *
you must be talking about me

remember birdinthesky or birdofhighseas

oh yes, he must have writing the story base on your legacy captain biggthumpup.gif
GentleWind
QUOTE(riversouth @ Sep 10 2007, 11:39 PM) *
oh yes, he must have writing the story base on your legacy captain biggthumpup.gif




totally

GreatAnabyng
QUOTE(riversouth @ Sep 10 2007, 11:33 PM) *
who do you think is the most powerful martial artist in the jin yong universe?


Lol....they have this debate in the spctv.net forums all the time. It always come down to either Dugu QiuBai (not not really a character) or the sweeper monk in demi-devils semi-gods. My opinion is that it has to be Dong feng Bu Bai---weird.
GentleWind
Doc Co Cau Bai
riversouth
QUOTE(GreatAnabyng @ Sep 11 2007, 12:09 AM) *
Lol....they have this debate in the spctv.net forums all the time. It always come down to either Dugu QiuBai (not not really a character) or the sweeper monk in demi-devils semi-gods. My opinion is that it has to be Dong feng Bu Bai---weird.

i see...

naw i don't think it's dong fang bu bai.

he might be superior in skill but he was relatively weak in internal energy compare to xu zhu or sweeper monk.

none of the character in smile and proud wanderer era can match up to the semi-devil & semi-god era, although dong fang bu bai is an exception.

personally i think it's xiao feng, you have to remember he broke the sweeper monk's rip embarassedlaugh.gif
GentleWind


nope

DOC CO CAU BAI

the name says it all

or

Yang Guo

riversouth
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Sep 11 2007, 12:22 AM) *
nope DOC CO CAU BAI

the name says it all

the general conception is he was invincible but we don't know what type of opponent he faces in his lifetime.

any average swordsman can beat up a bum on the street and can claim to be invincible . embarassedlaugh.gif

but yeah he was quite powerful, not because of his sword but he achieves the non-sword stage which is the higest level of any swordsman.

but then, duan yu actually achieve this stage too but he lacks the knowledge of martial art philosophy.

you can make a case of zhang sam feng, his taichi transcend to modern age, so he is probably the best, even jin yong agreed on this. lol
GentleWind
QUOTE(riversouth @ Sep 11 2007, 12:28 AM) *
the general conception is he was invincible but we don't know what type of opponent he faces in his lifetime.

any average swordsman can beat up a bum on the street and can claim to be invincible . embarassedlaugh.gif

but yeah he was quite powerful, not because of his sword but he achieves the non-sword stage which is the higest level of any swordsman.

but then, duan yu actually achieve this stage too but he lacks the knowledge of martial art philosophy.

you can make a case of zhang sam feng, his taichi transcend to modern age, so he is probably the best, even jin yong agreed on this. lol



if he has the balls to say that he must be good

he aint bullsitting

and he has a big condor

what about Truong Tam Phong?

he eats too much tofu
riversouth
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Sep 11 2007, 12:35 AM) *
if he has the balls to say that he must be good

he aint bullsitting

and he has a big condor

what about Truong Tam Phong?

he eats too much tofu

yea most of his fan doesn't like the idea when he claimed zhang sam feng to be the best.

but since he is a taoism and die as 120+ years old virgin, people have high respect for him laugh.gif
GentleWind
QUOTE(riversouth @ Sep 11 2007, 12:46 AM) *
yea most of his fan doesn't like the idea when he claimed zhang sam feng to be the best.

but since he is a taoism and die as 120+ years old virgin, people have high respect for him laugh.gif



didnt he bang that hot chick
papabearvn
a Han-centric novel, where other ethnics - minorities or from other countries (monks, people from the sea, and some weird characters from Persia), are depicted as barbarians laugh.gif but apart from that, his writing is good. This cannot be compared with other Chinese classics.
GreatAnabyng
QUOTE(papabearvn @ Sep 11 2007, 03:02 AM) *
a Han-centric novel, where other ethnics - minorities or from other countries (monks, people from the sea, and some weird characters from Persia), are depicted as barbarians laugh.gif but apart from that, his writing is good. This cannot be compared with other Chinese classics.


In the two sequals i would agree with you, but the first installment, is not Han centric at all. Quite the opposite really in that the Han of latter Song were portrayed in quite a negative light. you have the greedy beggars, corrupt officials, unfilial son, dishonest merchant etc etc. the mongols on the other hand were seen as brave, loyal, honest ie. ghengis and sons and subordinates.

GreatAnabyng
QUOTE(riversouth @ Sep 11 2007, 12:18 AM) *
i see...

naw i don't think it's dong fang bu bai.

he might be superior in skill but he was relatively weak in internal energy compare to xu zhu or sweeper monk.

none of the character in smile and proud wanderer era can match up to the semi-devil & semi-god era, although dong fang bu bai is an exception.

personally i think it's xiao feng, you have to remember he broke the sweeper monk's rip embarassedlaugh.gif


Perhaps.

but if not for his womanly sentiments, Dong fang bu bai would have easily contended with the combined effort of four of the more powerfull characters in smilling proud wanderer. Armed with only a needle! He only lost out of underhandedness.

But i think Jin Yong himself has remarked that the taichi master in heavan sword, dragon sabre is the most powerfull.

GentleWind
Kieu Phong isn't Han
millersdude
I like Jin Yong's writing styles. But his plots are not as deep as other Chinese authors in the similar genre.
millersdude
QUOTE(Titanium @ Sep 10 2007, 11:40 PM) *
Jin Yong was a literary genius.


Jin Yong is still alive. In fact he just revised some of his novels.
GentleWind
QUOTE(millersdude @ Sep 11 2007, 03:44 PM) *
Jin Yong is still alive. In fact he just revised some of his novels.



that guy must be a very interesting person to hang out with
papabearvn
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Sep 12 2007, 12:55 AM) *
Kieu Phong isn't Han


doh, the guy got assimilated. About the Mongols, you know that Chinese are desperate to claim all the Khans are Chinese laugh.gif But it's understandable, the Kazakh says the same thing, just like the Hungarian want to say Attila the Hun is Hungarian but most historians agree that he's Asian.
Titanium
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Sep 11 2007, 12:55 PM) *
Kieu Phong isn't Han

Who's Kieu Phong?
GreatAnabyng
QUOTE(papabearvn @ Sep 13 2007, 02:50 AM) *
doh, the guy got assimilated. About the Mongols, you know that Chinese are desperate to claim all the Khans are Chinese laugh.gif But it's understandable, the Kazakh says the same thing, just like the Hungarian want to say Attila the Hun is Hungarian but most historians agree that he's Asian.



the guy did not get assimilated, he thought he was Han.

Anyhow, in no way does Jin Yong in the condor heroes try to make out that the Mongol Khans were Han. quite the opposite really with all the repeated derogatives along the lines of: "mongol dogs" in the first installment, "uncivilised barbarians" in the second part while the last part (heavan sword, dragon slaying sabre) deals with 'expelling the foreign invaders'.
papabearvn
QUOTE(GreatAnabyng @ Sep 13 2007, 09:16 PM) *
the guy did not get assimilated, he thought he was Han.

Anyhow, in no way does Jin Yong in the condor heroes try to make out that the Mongol Khans were Han. quite the opposite really with all the repeated derogatives along the lines of: "mongol dogs" in the first installment, "uncivilised barbarians" in the second part while the last part (heavan sword, dragon slaying sabre) deals with 'expelling the foreign invaders'.


icon_smile.gif you know there is something more than that ... Mongols at that time owned China, so there are some feelings of hate & love, much like how many Chinese having both superiority complex & inferiority complex with Japanese.
Vitality
I heard his novels are good so I want to read them. Does Jin Yong ever make any references to Koreans?
Titanium
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Sep 11 2007, 12:55 PM) *
Kieu Phong isn't Han

Are you talking about Qiao Feng , the Sinicized Khitan in Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils? LOL why do you Viets always translate the Chinese names into your language? It's confusing. Anyways you're right, he wasn't Han but then again alot of Chinese people aren't.

QUOTE(Vitality @ Sep 13 2007, 03:49 PM) *
I heard his novels are good so I want to read them. Does Jin Yong ever make any references to Koreans?

Not sure about that one but it's good you're interested.
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