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tofu101
Shouldn't it be the other way around, Khmer be under Vietic? I mean, we have been longer established in SEA with Dong Son culture, so wouldn't it make more sense for us to influence other other SEA culture and languages? what are your opinions?
Arsenalcow
Yea, we own them HARDCORE!
neinei
QUOTE(tofu101 @ Sep 12 2007, 01:08 PM) *
Shouldn't it be the other way around, Khmer be under Vietic? I mean, we have been longer established in SEA with Dong Son culture, so wouldn't it make more sense for us to influence other other SEA culture and languages? what are your opinions?


Because the whities put us in that stupid Category. IMO we should be taken out and be put in our own personal category.
tdk614
Because some dumb white idiots thought that he knew Vietnamese language better than Vietnamese. That's why. If he studied the northern dialect which IMO is the true Vietnamese dialect, he would have recognized that Vietnamese phonetics is similar to Cantonese or something like that. Khmer language is not tonal whereas Vietnamese is tonal like Chinese. It is alway s much more difficult to gain tonality in a language than to lose it. Have you ever heard some white people trying to speak Vietnamese or Mandarin? With this assertion, if anything, Khmer language would derive from Vietnamese language.
vietman
We need to petition the change. Our language is no way khmer.
ICUQB4UQRU
Because I say so. embarassedlaugh.gif
papabearvn
u guys reading some Cambodian extremists' comments? laugh.gif don't let those sentiments shape your minds, Cambodian are our friends & good neighbors.

to tofu: basically, I agree with you about the Dong Son culture, centered in Phong Chau, Phu Tho which then spread to many areas in the region but I think the Negritos were in the region first, as for the Mekong delta, Mon replaced the Negritos but then displaced by the Khmer, mixed with some ruling classes from Indus Valley, Vietnamese were last.
1962VW
IMHO.................I think they are confusing Vietnam with Champa.
asean.asia
Is it that hard to differentiate Vietnamese and Champanese embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE(1962VW @ Sep 13 2007, 07:33 PM) *
IMHO.................I think they are confusing Vietnam with Champa.

tdk614
Vietnamese culture started in the Red River delta around Hanoi, not in the south or central. For that reason, western linguists should have recognized the proximity between Viet and other languages in south China. But it's a stretch when they claimed that our language came from the Mon and Khmer groups who used to occupy in the south. As I said, some arrogant and ethno-ignorant white linguists just screwed up big time.
Guyer
For your info, the Mon-Khmer group orignated near present day India/Burma area, not in present day Cambodia in the South.
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