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chucky3176
So the Viet Cong were such brave warriors that they had to hide behind women and children, inviting Americans and Koreans to kill them so that they can mass publicize the killings to their own benefit for maximum propaganda. Cowardice of terrorists. This is something that is going on over there in Iraq. The Muslim terrorists took the page right out of the Viet Cong, Vietnamese must be real proud. In the meantime, I have never seen Vietnamese whine about their dead killed by their own kind. Only foreigners are evil, never the Vietnamese.

http://www.wellesley.edu/Polisci/wj/Vietna...crepression.htm
tofu101
Yes, those crazy VCs. They did horrible things. But if it had not been for America imposing a fake war on us, none of this would have happened. What do you think? Not to mention, the SK troops contributed to the crime by barging in for their own economic and military gain. Shame.
chucky3176
I have discovered new evidence of mass atrocities committed by Vietnamese criminals. According to this article, this case is the 'worst' of any mass genocide of the Vietnam War. Shocking!

Atrocity at Dak Son

In its December 15, 1967 issue, Time magazine described what it called the "worst atrocity yet committed in the Viet Nam war." Dak Son was a hamlet of some 2,000 Montagnard refugees about 75 miles northeast of Saigon. The Communists were intensely interested in Dak Son because the refugees had months earlier fled from life under the Viet Cong. Lest others get the same idea, the Communists decided to make an example of the Montagnards who, Time noted, "were completely unarmed...." On December 5, 1967, "a handful of Viet Cong crawled up to the wall-and-wire perimeter of the hamlet" and called for its inhabitants "to surrender and come out. When they got no takers, they withdrew," but returned and launched their attack around midnight, "pouring machine-gun, mortar and rocket fire into Dak Son."

The 600 Viet Cong assembled outside the hamlet "were armed with 60 flame-throwers. Yelling and screaming, they attacked the town, shooting countless streams of liquid fire that lit up the night and terrified by its very sight a people who had only recently discovered the use of matches." Most of the victims were women and children.

The Viet Cong "were not intent on a military victory but on the cold-blooded, monumental massacre of the helpless Montagnards." To that end, "long ugly belches of flame lashed out from every direction, garishly illuminating the refugee hamlet and searing and scorching everything in their path. The shrieking refugees still inside their houses were incinerated. Many of those who had time to get down into dogholes beneath the houses were asphyxiated. Spraying fire about in great whooshing arcs, the Viet Cong set everything afire: trees, fences, gardens, chickens, the careful piles of grain from the annual harvest. Huts that somehow survived the holocaust were leveled with grenades. Then the hoses of fire were sprayed down inside the exposed burroughs. Later, the Communists incinerated a patch of the main town just for good measure."

Only when they ran out of flame-thrower fuel did the Viet Cong resort to guns. "Forcing 160 of the survivors out of their dogholes," Time continued, "they shot 60 of them to death on the spot. Then, finally abandoning the smoking ruins of Dak Son at dawn, they dragged away with them into the jungle another 100 of the survivors."

Some survivors were left behind. Numb with horror, they "stumbled out to look for wives, children and friends. They held handkerchiefs and cabbage leaves to their faces to ward off the smell of burnt flesh that hung over everything. One by one the dogholes were emptied, giving up the fire-red, bloated, peeling remains of human beings. Charred children were locked in ghastly embrace, infants welded to their mother's breasts. The victims were almost all women and children. The dead adults were covered with scorched mats and blankets salvaged from the ashes, the bodies of babies laid in bamboo baskets. One man lost 13 members of his family."
1962VW
tofu101............................See what you did, going over there to insult them.........................

..............and now, the dirty.....err Saintly Viet Congs are going to be dragged thru the mud of War Crimes.

You should be ashame of yourself................I know, THAT CRAZY RVN FANATIC (in here) is going to post HORRIBLE,

BLOODY PICTURES of DEAD CITIZENS of the Republic . thumbsdown.gif thumbsdown.gif thumbsdown.gif
chucky3176
Massacre at Huế

Mass executions by the North Vietnamese included a horrendous 2800 civilians and POW's, at a span of little over few hours. Worst intentional mass killings of any event in the war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF
tofu101
Yes, I'll admit, my first thread there was flaimbait. However, my second and third thread were to expose the issue seriously in which not many Koreans are ware of. EAD went to Viet chat to troll. I have nothing more to say. By the way, this thread should be closed since they closed mine for no reason.
tofu101
Thanks Chuckie for you great work. I am looking forward to learning more about the VC massacres. icon_smile.gif

Oh, by the way, why was my threads in Kchat closed? What was the reason? I understnad why my first one was closed, but my second and third was serious (EAD and enomoski were there posting nonsense). I was waiting for more serious Korean users to reply. Anyway, this website sucks i guess.
EvilAsianDude
QUOTE(tofu101 @ Sep 20 2007, 07:06 PM) *
Yes, I'll admit, my first thread there was flaimbait. However, my second and third thread were to expose the issue seriously in which not many Koreans are ware of. EAD went to Viet chat to troll. I have nothing more to say. By the way, this thread should be closed since they closed mine for no reason.


Now that ive pwned you in all three topics you made in K-chat im just going to mention two things here.

I did not troll in Viet chat. I only mentioned that military kill ratios do not factor in civilian casualties. Thats all I did. You have some serious growing up you need to do if you find something so trivial as this a threat to your viet nationalism.

Now I suggest you lay low unless you want me to embarrass you in front of your own people(9 hours, your lies, your innacurate statements etc which im pretty sure you dont want the Viet posters here to know).
tofu101
QUOTE(EvilAsianDude @ Sep 20 2007, 06:11 PM) *
Now that ive pwned you in all three topics you made in K-chat im just going to mention two things here.

I did not troll in Viet chat. I only mentioned that military kill ratios do not factor in civilian casualties. Thats all I did. You have some serious growing up you need to do if you find something so trivial as this a threat to your viet nationalism.

Now I suggest you lay low unless you want me to embarrass you in front of your own people(9 hours, your lies, your innacurate statements etc which im pretty sure you dont want the Viet posters here to know).


Nope, you went here to troll, laugh at the Vietnamese, brag about kill ratios. Stop LYING. And no, you did not pwn me. that's why you desperately asked for the threads to be closed. The shame hit you
EvilAsianDude
QUOTE(tofu101 @ Sep 20 2007, 07:12 PM) *
Nope, you went here to troll, laugh at the Vietnamese, brag about kill ratios. Stop LYING.


Talk about denial. icon_rolleyes.gif

Do you even know what military kill ratios are? They only factor in combat deaths, not civilian casualties. I only corrected you and that other ignorant poster on this simple fact. And what did you do? You two went berzerk due to the possibility of the Vietcong losing.

Why dont you stop lying. You are a proven liar and I can name several instances in which you lied. Anyways im done for the day.

Enjoy your daily +9 hours on the computer. embarassedlaugh.gif
chucky3176
Why this thread should close so early, when you have had your chance to 'reveal the truth' for the last 48 hours? I think it should only be fair that I should have the same opportunity to reveal the truth about the Vietnamese atrocities.
tofu101
EAD is making everything so childish. Anyway, my last post today.

For all the Vietnamese, please read these threads. I know we don't give a $hit about SK, but this is history. PEACE

Korean war crimes in Vietnam
Confessions of Korean war atrosities in Vietnam
Vietnam helped South Korea industrialized

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tim003





papabearvn
QUOTE(1962VW @ Sep 21 2007, 06:03 AM) *
tofu101............................See what you did, going over there to insult them.........................

..............and now, the dirty.....err Saintly Viet Congs are going to be dragged thru the mud of War Crimes.

You should be ashame of yourself................I know, THAT CRAZY RVN FANATIC (in here) is going to post HORRIBLE,

BLOODY PICTURES of DEAD CITIZENS of the Republic . thumbsdown.gif thumbsdown.gif thumbsdown.gif


Stop using those kinds of word to bring up the hype.
First of all, tofu, I understand tofu's anger over the issue but you need to understand the Korean's mentality and even in the case they gonna brag about it, will anyone ever believe? Understanding about their mentality and current credibility, then you just don't need to talk about these things.
1962, no matter what it is, it's strictly Vietnam's business, don't let the prejudice lead your mind.

For the some of the nationalist Korean, I have tried to explain about your issues in this thread,

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t=8&start=1

if you would like to drag this problem further, that will just lead more stuff like how Korean murder Korean & such. The whole thing will turn out to be crap, a laughing stock.


To both Korean Chat Mods & Vietnamese Chat Mods, close these kinds of stupid threads. Thanks.
chucky3176
Massacre at My Loc

Wall Street Journal Articles:

Commentary:
The Consequence of War
May 1, 2001

The Vietnamese government is happy to trot out witnesses from the supposed atrocity conducted by Bob Kerrey's Navy SEAL's at Thanh Phong. It is doubtful that they would be so cooperative if questions were asked about Communist killings in places such as My Loc.


In April 1969, the Marine rifle company to which I was assigned was operating in the An Hoa Basin of Vietnam, west and south of DaNang. In addition to our routine of long-range combat patrols and defensive positions along a vital and heavily contested road, it was decided that we would provide security for a "town meeting" hosted by the South Vietnamese government's district chief, who had been criticized for living in the distant and more secure confines of DaNang. Over the space of a few days, visits were made to nearby hamlets, where 30 delegates were chosen to attend the meeting. After that, the district chief and his senior aide were brought in on the morning convoy.

A thatch-covered "hooch" at the bottom of our perimeter, about the size of a typical American living room, was chosen as the meeting place. Shortly after the meeting began, a Viet Cong assassination team raced through the thick foliage, hit the hooch, and fled. My rifle platoon was returning from a combat patrol as explosions rang out to our front. In seconds a Viet Cong soldier sprinting down the trail collided with my point man. I can still see his young face, adrenalized and madly grinning, as he was captured. And I remember the sight of the others as we reached the hooch.

The floor inside was covered with an ankle-deep mix of blood, innards, limbs and bodies. I and several others waded into the human mire, emptying bodies from the hooch and finding medical care for those who had survived. Nineteen people were dead, including the district chief and his aide. The aide's right arm was blown off near the elbow, its tendons like slim white feathers, as if he had been reaching to catch a grenade.

Nearby an older woman sat motionless against a wall, her face stunned and her dark eyes piercing, untouched except for a small, square hole in her forehead. I thought she was alive until I grabbed her arm. The wounded squirmed on the floor, reaching past dead bodies as they crawled in the muck, covered thickly with blood and twisting among each other like giant fishing worms.

We cleaned out the hooch, evacuated the wounded, washed at a nearby well, and went back to our war. By the next day this incident was over, a little piece of history in the long and ugly journey of a combat tour. But in the coming months as I reflected on them, the killings at My Loc raised an important distinction, which has become even more relevant with the media firestorm over Bob Kerrey's ill-fated SEAL patrol in the Mekong Delta.

Civilians have a terrible time in any war zone -- fully one-third of the population of Okinawa was killed in 12 weeks of fighting on that island in 1945. But in a guerrilla war, the support or control of the local population, rather than the conquest of territory, is the ultimate objective. Civilians become enmeshed in the actual fighting, inseparable from it.

They fight among themselves for political dominance of a local area. They form an infrastructure and quietly support one side or the other when it moves through their village. They suffer greatly when battles are fought on top of them, and when emotions overcome logic and troops snap, as at My Lai. But the villagers of My Loc and others like them, clearly noncombatants, were killed purely as a matter of political control, for having met with a South Vietnamese government official and given some legitimacy to his authority.

Any American who directed a similar slaughter, or participated in it, would have been court-martialed. This distinction was basic to our policy in Vietnam, and it seems to have been lost by many over the past week. The body language and word choices of many media commentators indicates clearly that a larger issue -- how history will judge our involvement in Vietnam -- is still very much in play, and a big part of that issue is to continue to demean the American sacrifices in that war.

Words like "atrocity" and "massacre" are routinely being thrown about, with some even calling for Nuremberg-like trials for American war crimes in Vietnam. Aggressive reporters have played "gotcha" with every Kerrey statement. How could he say it was a moonless night when the charts say it was a half-moon? (Try clouds. Or canopy. Or vegetation.) Did he take one shot or many shots at the first outpost? Did he kneel on a guy when his throat was getting cut?

For many who went through extensive combat in Vietnam, such parsing brings back an anger caused by memories not of the war but of the condescending arrogance directed at them upon their return, principally by people in their own age group who had risked nothing and yet microscopically judged every action of those who had risked everything and often lost a great deal. Combat in a guerrilla war requires constant moral judgments, in an environment with unending pressure, little sleep, and no second chances for yourself or the people you are leading when you guess wrong. Were we perfect? No. Were we worse than Americans in other wars, or our enemy in this one? Hardly.

Which brings us to the recent attention given the Kerrey patrol. There is much in the New York Times magazine story to make one uneasy. The key "witness" from the village where the incident took place is the wife of a former Viet Cong soldier, who now has told Time magazine that she did not actually see the killings. She and the other Vietnamese witness, who was 12 at the time of the incident, live in a communist state where propaganda regarding America's "evil" war effort is one of the mainsprings of political legitimacy -- not the best conditions to produce honesty in cases with international implications.

The one member of Mr. Kerrey's SEAL team to allege extreme conduct did not pass the credibility test with Newsweek magazine when the story was considered there. CBS's "60 Minutes," which co-sponsored the investigation, seems to have an affinity for stories about Americans committing atrocities, having rehashed My Lai as the best way to remember the 30th anniversary of 1968, the year that brought the worst fighting, and highest American casualties, of the war.

Most important, to one practiced in both combat and journalism, a key and possibly determinative piece of information seems vastly underplayed. According to the Times magazine story, archive records of Army radio transmissions indicate that two days after the incident, "an old man from Thanh Phong presented himself to the district chief's headquarters with claims for retribution for alleged atrocities committed the night of 25 and 26 February 69. Thus far it appears 24 people were killed. 13 were women and children and one old man. 11 were unidentified and assumed to be VC."

Given the tone of the story, this radio transmission was probably included because it refers to the Kerrey patrol as having committed an atrocity. But a closer reading would appear to confirm the position of Mr. Kerrey and the five others on the patrol that they took fire and returned it, with the loss of civilian lives an unfortunate consequence.

This piece of evidence is perhaps the most objective account available of the results of the Kerrey patrol, coming as it does from a time near the incident, from a man who was asking for retribution and thus was hardly trying to cover things up. It also coincides with Mr. Kerrey's recollection of 13 or 14 dead civilians in the village before the team left the scene, as any Viet Cong soldiers would most likely have been on the other side of the villagers who were killed, perhaps even using them as a screen while attempting to escape.

As has often been said over the past week, we will never know the exact details of what occurred. But if a seven-man patrol operating independently at night far inside enemy territory killed 11 Viet Cong soldiers after coming under fire, it would seem they hit their assigned target. And the loss of civilian life that accompanied this brief but brutal firefight adds up not to an atrocity or a massacre, but to a tragic consequence of a war fought in the middle of a civilian population.

Which brings us to the recent attention given the Kerrey patrol. There is much in the New York Times magazine story to make one uneasy. The key "witness" from the village where the incident took place is the wife of a former Viet Cong soldier, who now has told Time magazine that she did not actually see the killings. She and the other Vietnamese witness, who was 12 at the time of the incident, live in a communist state where propaganda regarding America's "evil" war effort is one of the mainsprings of political legitimacy -- not the best conditions to produce honesty in cases with international implications.
1962VW
Ladies and Gentlemen..................................Commie Crimes Against Civilians(this is just a small sample):

The War Takes A Nasty Turn
[40]

A prime target of the communist offensive was the Hmong ADC militia at Ban Ban Valley, commanded by Chong Shoua Yang. For nearly a year Chong Shoua had frustrated communist efforts to raze the Neutralist garrison at Ban Ban by holding the high ground, principally the mountain villages of Pha Ka and Phou Nong. The Pathet Lao repeatedly tried to dislodge the ADC from the two villages, but on each occasion fell short. During the April 1964 offensive, the communists went after Chong Shoua with four battalions, three of them NVA, unleashing a deadly artillery and mortar barrage that tore the two mountain villages apart.

[41]

Chong Shoua retreated, leading his militia and what was left of the villagers, south toward nearby mountains. Shells continued to drop from the sky, striking not only Pha Ka and Phou Nong but blasting several other villages nearby. These civilians also fled for their lives. The flood of refugees quickly exceeded fourteen thousand, fleeing in three separate groups. In the past the communists had not bothered to waste bullets on fleeing refugees, but this time they kept up the harassment, driving them on.

[42]

One group of six thousand was hounded by a small force, then driven up into the highlands and herded into a bowl-like depression. Waiting for them was a much larger force of four hundred NVA already in position around the edges of the basin. The harassing force pulled back to give the Hmong a false sense of security. The four hundred communists lying in wait watched patiently as the refugees below made camp and tended to their children.

[43]

By midnight most of the refugees were asleep. Suddenly, eyes popped open and heads jerked at the whoosh of shells exiting mortar tubes. Dozens of Hmong had already begun to scatter when the missiles exploded, kicking bodies into the air. Bullets from AK-47s tore into the encampment. The refugees ran blindly in the dark from one side of the basin to the other, trying to find an escape route, each time rushing directly into another deadly rifle barrage.

[44]

Above, on the rim, an order was barked out in Vietnamese. Soldiers dashed down the hillsides, screaming like banshees, most running at full tilt but a few on the steeper inclines sliding by the seat of their pants over slick limestone to get at the Hmong. When they reached the basin the NVA troops pushed into the confusion of bodies, tossing grenades into clumps of people, shooting until their magazines were empty, then drawing their knives to slash at arms and shoulders and stab at stomachs and backs. A few soldiers picked up small children and swung them like sacks, bashing their heads against rocks.

[45]

During the height of the killing, a few Hmong discovered an escape route and called out to the others. There was a massed rush to get away. The Vietnamese went after them in the darkness, slitting the throats of some stragglers, disemboweling others, and shooting yet others in the leg so they could be left and finished off at leisure later. Bodies littered the refugees' escape route, life still ebbing from a few who had survived a stabbing or bullet wound, groaning in pain and pleading for someone to help them. By early morning the Vietnamese gave up the chase. Sides heaving, their black pajama uniforms encrusted with blood, they were finally exhausted from their butchery. Nearly thirteen hundred Hmong, including women and children, lay dead, carved up like livestock in a slaughterhouse.{19}

[46]

The Vietnamese took two hundred survivors prisoner. The rest of the approximately forty-five hundred Hmong who had escaped the carnage and eluded capture walked forty miles to Muong Meo, a village with an airstrip that had become a magnet for thousands of other Hmong displaced by the communist offensive on the eastern edge of the Plain of Jars. More than twenty thousand refugees were already assembled, waiting to be evacuated. Air America transport planes arrived the next day and ferried refugees nonstop to Vang Pao's SGU training camp at Muong Cha.

[47]

For the Hmong the war had taken a nasty turn. "


These sections were taken from Harvesting Pa Chay's Wheat: The Hmong and America's Secret War in Laos

by Keith Quincy-------------> This is a Great Book .
asean.asia
We were just killing a bunch of Montagnards. Montagnards helped the US kill Vietnamese, so we back-fired their ethnic. biggthumpup.gif

Lets see which ethnic would dare to fight against Vietnamese. beerchug.gif
chucky3176
Tofu quotes Time article which in turn took the quotes from Korea's Hankyoreh newspaper, that more than 5000 Vietnamese civilians were killed by Koreans. Let's take that as bald face truth. 5000 killed by Koreans is dwarfed by how many Vietnamese killed. Why, in one day only at Hue, the Communist Vietnamese killed 2800 in one swoop. The massacres by Vietnamese are so numerous that it is impossible to count, yet the Koreans are portrayed as the savage butchers. I can continue to post up more massacres that were perpetuated by Vietnamese murderers.
chucky3176


http://www.olive-drab.com/od_history_vietnam_atrocities.php


QUOTE
In Vietnam specifically, the Communist forces regularly perpetrated atrocities on Americans as well as the Vietnamese civilian population. A few examples:

* In battles at Ia Drang (23 October to 20 November 1965), NVA troops slaughtered U.S. wounded. Most bodies recovered were shot in the head or back. At other locations, wounded American soldiers were tied to trees, tortured, and then murdered
* On 6 December 1967, Viet Cong massacred 252 civilians in a vengeance attack on Dak Son, an anticommunist Montagnard village
* During the 1968 Tet offensive, the North Vietnamese massacred 5,800 civilians at Hue
* Terrorism was an integral part of Communist strategy in Vietnam; terrorist attacks in Saigon regularly killed innocent women and children
* Khmer Rouge (Cambodian Communists) were particularly brutal; as guerrillas they slaughtered whole villages -- after gaining power estimates of dead from their actions run into millions
* Treatment of prisoners in Communist camps included routine brutality along with torture and psychological abuse

In total, from 1957 to 1973, the Viet Cong assassinated 36,725 South Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The VC death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and schoolteachers. For the Communist forces, atrocities were a matter of policy and were not hidden or punished.

Despite continuous commission of such atrocities, and many more small scale sadistic acts designed to terrorize U.S. troops and punish cooperating Vietnamese, many people cling to the belief that U.S. troops were barbaric while the Communist forces were noble freedom fighters. This is partially a media-created paradigm, based on over-reporting of U.S. or South Vietnamese faults while under-reporting the others. It is also based on endless repeating of a few true stories of U.S. transgressions along with the creation of myths about other events that did not happen or were wildly exaggerated.
chanoi
I dont get it? Killers are killers. Is this some sort of a game that some korean and Viet playing to see which side spilled less blood on their hands during the Viet Nam war? If you're stained with innocents' blood then you're cold blooded killers.

Today there is no killing of Vietnamese civilians commited by the Korean or the current Viet government.
tim003
QUOTE(asean.asia @ Sep 20 2007, 06:47 PM) *
We were just killing a bunch of Montagnards. Montagnards helped the US kill Vietnamese COMMUNIST , so we back-fired their ethnic. biggthumpup.gif

Lets see which ethnic would dare to fight against Vietnamese. beerchug.gif


I just want to clarify that the Vietnameses that Asean refered is VC.
ln030921
Atrocities were made by boths sides of the war, Devoting the Blame for one side for everything is a rather Biased thing to do...Unless You like Rambo and believe in the Goody-Goody world...Get real.
phreezen
QUOTE(1962VW @ Sep 20 2007, 07:03 PM) *
tofu101............................See what you did, going over there to insult them.........................

..............and now, the dirty.....err Saintly Viet Congs are going to be dragged thru the mud of War Crimes.

You should be ashame of yourself................I know, THAT CRAZY RVN FANATIC (in here) is going to post HORRIBLE,

BLOODY PICTURES of DEAD CITIZENS of the Republic . thumbsdown.gif thumbsdown.gif thumbsdown.gif


I think the charade by tofu101 is quite obvious....Noticed I quoted 1962VW. I'm not specifically responding to 1962VW. Just wanted to show what a lame charade it is. Even 1962VW knows it. Tofu101 does a horrible job trying to smear. The only people who does worst are the Americans.


According to the the U.S., U.S. soldiers that are killed by VC are considered war crimes. Don't believe me? Look at chucky3176's post on olive-drab.com that claimed NVA slaughtered wounded US troops. The list goes on to mention the killings of lackeys at Dak Son. If you go there and read it, the site carefully labeled its words and defines how and what is considered a war crimes so it can stretch the lies. If tortured is what olive-drab calls war crimes, then the US is committing ungodly acts of war crimes on people held at GITMO and secret prison around the world. Not to mention they also torture VC prisoners during the war. Funny, the site doesn't mention that....

So basically, to Americans and their lackeys, VC killing US soldiers equals war crimes. VC killing US Lackeys equals war crimes. US/US Lackeys killing VC DOESN"T EQUAL war crimes. This is the best claim that Amercians and their lackeys can do...


Dak Son and Hue seems to be the best that the lackeys or the Americans can claimed. Hue has already been discussed in previous threads.


Dak Son, which chucky3176 posted is from 11th Armored Cavalry's Veterans of Vietnam & Cambodia's website. As I've already stated, VC killing lackeys is considered a war crime. Lackeys killing VC DOESN'T EQUAL war crimes according to them. What's funny about their site is, under Viet Cong atrocities, there is only 1 entry and 1 link to more whiny US soldiers mistreatment. LOL...
http://tinyurl.com/2oej9q

War crimes is what the US/Lackeys did when they RAPED and MURDER women and babies, slaughtering unarmed civilians....then tried to blame the VC for it.

Hey Koreans,

Do the US still shoot korean refugees????
TenAnhLaQuoc
Since this thread is about Viet Cong Atrocities and Repression... I'll post a partial chronological list of crimes the Viet Cong committed:


Feb. 2, 1960: Terrorists sack and burn the Buddhist temple at Phuoc Thanh, Tay Ninh province. They stab to death 17-year old Phan Van Ngoc, who tries to stop them.

April 22, 1960: Some 30 armed communists raid Thoi Long, An Xuyen province. They attempt to take away villager Cao Van Nanh, 45. Villagers protest en masse. Farmer Pham Van Bai, 56, is particularly argumentative. The communists, angered, seize him.
This arouses the villagers who swarm toward the Viet Cong and their prisoner. The communists fire into the crowd. A 16-year old boy is shot dead.

August 23, 1960: Two school teachers, Nguyen Khoa Ngon and Miss Nguyen Thi Thiet, are preparing lessons at home when communists arrive and force them at gun point to go to their school, Rau Ran, in Phong Dinh province. There they find two men tied to the school veranda. The communists read the death order of the two men, named Canh and Van. They are executed, presumable to intimidate the school teachers.

September 24, 1960: An armed band sacks a school in An Lac. An Gian province. It piles seats and desks together and fires them and the school. All that remains is four bare walls.

September 28, 1960: Father Hoang Ngoc Minh, much beloved priest of Kontum parish, is riding from Tan Canh to Kondela. A communist road block halts his car. A bullet smashes into him. The guerrillas drive bamboo spears into Father Minh's body, then one fires a submachine gun point blank, killing him. The driver Huynh Huu, his nephew, is seriously wounded.

September 30, 1960: A band of ten armed communists kidnap farmer Truong Van Dang, 67, from Long Tri, Long An province. They take him before what they call a "people's tribunal." He is condemned to death for purchasing two hectares of rice land and ignoring communist orders to turn the land over to another farmer. After the "trial" he is shot dead in his rice field.

December 6, 1960: Terrorists dynamite the kitchen at the Saigon Golf Club, killing a Vietnamese kitchen helper and injuring two Vietnamese cooks.

December 1960: The GVN reports to the ICC that during the year the communists destroyed or damaged 284 bridges, burned 60 medical aid stations and, through destruction of schools, deprived some 25,000 children of schooling.

March 22, 1961: A truck carrying 20 girls is dynamited on the Saigon-Vung Tau road. The girls are returning from Saigon where they have taken part in a Trung Sisters Day celebration. After the explosion terrorists open fire on survivors. Two of the girls are killed and ten wounded. The girls are unarmed and traveling without escort.

May 15, 1961: Twelve Catholic nuns from La Providence order are traveling on Highway One toward Saigon. Their bus is stopped by communists who ransack their luggage. Sister Theophile protests and is shot dead on the spot. The vehicle is sprayed with bullets seriously wounding Sister Phan Thi No. The ambush takes place near Tram Van, Tay Ninh Province.

July 26, 1961: Two Vietnamese National Assemblymen Rmah Pok and Yet Nic Bounrit, both Montagnards, are shot and killed by terrorists near Dalat. A schoolteacher, traveling with them on their visit to a Montagnard resettlement village, is also killed.

September 20, 1961: One thousand main force communist soldiers storm Phuoc Vinh, capital of (then) Phuoc Thanh province, sac and burn government buildings, behead virtually the entire administrative staff. They hold the capital for 24 hours before withdrawing.

October, 1961: A U.S. State Department study estimates that the communists are killing Vietnamese at rate of 1,500 per month. December 13, 1961: Father Bonnet, a French parish priest from Konkala, Kontum is killed by a terrorist while visiting parishioners at Ngok Rongei.

December 20, 1961: S. Fuka, a Japanese engineer at the Da Nhim dam, a Japanese government war reparations project to supply electric power to Viet-Nam, is kidnapped after being stopped at a road block. His fate is never learned.

January 1, 1962: A Vietnamese labor leader, Le Van Thieu, 63, is hacked to death by terrorists wielding machetes near Bien Hoa, in the rubber plantation on which he works.

January 2, 1962: Two Vietnamese technicians working in the government's anti-malaria program, Pham Van Hai and Nguyen Van Thach, are killed by communists with machetes, 12 miles south of Saigon.

February 20, 1962: Terrorists throw four hand grenades into a crowded village theater near Can Tho, killing 24 women and children. In all, 108 persons are killed or injured.

April 8, 1962: Communists execute two wounded American prisoners of war near the village of An Chau in Central Viet-Nam. Each, hands tied, is shot in the face because he cannot keep up with the retreating captors.

May 19, 1962: A terrorist grenade is hurled into the Aterbea restaurant in Saigon, wounding a Berlin circus manager and the cultural attache from the German Embassy.

May 20, 1962: A bomb explodes in front of the Hung Dao Hotel, Saigon, a billet for American servicemen, injuring eight Vietnamese and three Americans who are in the street at the time.

June 12, 1962: Communists ambush a civilian passenger bus near Le Tri, An Giang province, killing the passengers, the driver and the driver's helper, a total of five men and women.

October 20, 1962: A teenage communist hurls a grenade into a holiday crowd in downtown Saigon, killing six persons, including two children, and injuring 38 persons.

November 4, 1962: A terrorist hurls a grenade into an alley in Can Tho, killing one American serviceman and two Vietnamese children. A third Vietnamese child is seriously injured.

January 25, 1963: Communists dynamite a passenger freight train near Qui Nhon, killing eight passengers and injuring 15 others. The train is carrying only rice as freight.

March 4, 1963: Two Protestant missionaries-Elwood Forreston, an American, and Gaspart Makil, a Filipino, are shot dead at a road block between Saigon and Dalat. The Makil twin babies are shot
and wounded.

March 16, 1963: Terrorists hurl a grenade into a Saigon home where and American family is having dinner, killing a French businessman and wounding four other persons, on of them a woman.

April 3, 1963: Terrorists throw two grenades into a private school near Long Xuyen, An Gian province, Killing a teacher and two other adults. Students are performing their annual variety show at the time.

April 4, 1963: Terrorists throw grenades into an audience attending an outdoor motion picture showing in Cao Lanh village in the Mekong Delta, killing four persons and wounding 11.

May 23, 1963: Two powerful explosions set off by terrorists on bicycles kill two Vietnamese and wound ten others in Saigon. Police believe the explosion was accidentally premature.

September 12, 1963: Miss Vo Thi Lo, 26, a schoolteacher in An Phuoc, Kien Hoa province, is found near the village with her throat cut. She had been kidnapped three days earlier.

October 16, 1963: Terrorists explode mines under two civilian buses in Kien Hoa and Quang Tin provinces, killing 18 Vietnamese and wounding 23.

November 9, 1963: Three grenades are thrown in Saigon, injuring a total of 16 persons, including four children; the first is thrown in a main street, the second along the waterfront, and the third in the Chinese residential area.

February 9, 1964: Two Americans are killed and 41 wounded, including four women and five children, when a communist bomb is set off in a sports stadium during a softball game. A second portion of the bomb fails to explode. Officials estimate that if it had, fifty persons would have died.

February 16, 1964: Three Americans are killed and 32 injured, most of them U.S. dependents, when terrorists bomb the Kinh Do movie theater in Saigon.

July 14, 1964: Pham Thao, chairman of the catholic Action Committee in Quang Ngai, is executed when he returns to his native village of Pho Loi, Quang Ngai province.

October, 1964: U.S. officials in Saigon report that from January to October of 1964 the communists killed 429 Vietnamese local officials and kidnapped 482 others.

December 24, 1964: A Christmas eve bomb explosion at the Brink officers' billet kills two Americans and injures 50 Americans and 13 Vietnamese.

February 6, 1965: Radio Liberation announces that the communists have shot two American prisoners of war as reprisals against the Vietnamese government, which had sentenced two terrorists to death.

February 10, 1965: Terrorists blow up an enlisted men's barracks in Qui Nhon, killing 23 Americans.

March 30, 1965: A bomb explodes outside the American Embassy in Saigon, killing 2 Americans, 18 Vietnamese and injuring 100 Vietnamese and 45 Americans.

June 24, 1965: Radio Liberation announces the execution of an American prisoner.

June 25, 1965: Terrorists dynamite the My Canh restaurant in Saigon, killing 27 Vietnamese, 12 Americans, two Filipinos, one Frenchman, one German; more than 80 persons are injured.

June 1965: Vietnamese officials report the rate of assassinations and kidnappings of rural officials has double din June over May and April; 224 officials were either killed or kidnapped.

August 18, 1965: A bomb at the Police Directorate office in Saigon kills six and wounds 15.

October 4, 1965: One of two planted bombs explodes at the Cong Hoa National Sports Stadium, killing eleven Vietnamese, including four children, and wounding 42 persons.

October 5, 1965: A bomb goes off, apparently prematurely, in a taxi on a main street in downtown Saigon, killing two Vietnamese and wounding ten others.

December 4, 1965: In Saigon a terrorist bomb kills eight persons when it explodes in front of a billet for U.S. enlisted men; 137 are injured, including 72 Americans, three New Zealanders and 62
Vietnamese.

December 12, 1965: Two terrorist platoons kill 23 Vietnamese canal construction workers asleep in a Buddhist Pagoda in Tan Huong, Dinh Tuong province; wound seven others.

December 30, 1965: Saigon editor Tu Chung of the newspaper Chinh Luan is gunned down in point blank fire as he arrives home at noon for lunch. Earlier he had published the texts of threatening notes he had received from the communists.

January 7, 1966: A Claymore mine explodes at Tan Son Nhut gate (entrance to Saigon airport), killing two persons and injuring 12.

January 17,1966: Communists in Kien Tuong detonate a mine under a highway bus, killing 26 civilians, seven of them children. Eight persons are injured and three are listed as mission.

January 18, 1966: Communists mine a bus in Kien Tuong province, killing 26 civilians.

January 29, 1966: Terrorists kill a Catholic priest, Father Phan Khac Dau, 74, at Thanh Tri, Kien tuong province. Five other civilians, including a church officer, are also killed. The marauders desecrate the church, destroying its statuary and religious artifacts.

February 2, 1966: A communist squad ambushes a jeep load of Vietnamese information workers, killing six and wounding one: in Hau Nghia province.

February 14, 1966: Two mines explode beneath a bus and a three- wheeled taxi on a road near Tuy Hoa, killing 48 farm laborers and injuring seven others.

March 18, 1966: Fifteen Vietnamese civilians are killed and four injured by the explosion of a homemade mine on a country road eight kilometers west of Tuy Hoa, Phu Yen province.

May 22, 1966: Terrorists kill 18 sleeping men, a woman and four children during an attack on a housing center for canal workers in the Mekong Delta province of An Giang. "We are doing this to teach you a lesson," a communist cadre is reported to have said just before he pulled the trigger.

September 10, 1966: On the eve of South Vietnam's Constituent assembly elections, communists stage 166 separate incidents of intimidation, abduction and assassination, Polling places also are destroyed.

September 11, 1966: On election day, communists kill 19 voters wound 120, in fire on polling places, mining of roads, and in individual assassinations.

September 24, 1966: American troops free eleven persons from a communist "jail" in Phu Yen province who report that 70 fellow prisoners were deliberately starved to death and 20 others tortured until they died.

October 11, 1966: Acting on information from a 14-year old boy, allied forces discover a prison complex in Binh Dinh province containing the bodies of 12 Vietnamese who had been machine gunned and grenaded by fleeing guards.

October 22, 1966: A youth worker in Binh Chanh, Gia Dinh province, is shot and killed by raiders while asleep in his home.

October 24, 1966: The Hue-Quang Tri bus runs over a mine in Phong Dien district, Thua Thien province;
15 passengers are injured.

October 27, 1966: A grenade is thrown into a home in Ban Me Thout, Darlac province, killing a 63-year old man and a nine- month old child; seven other persons , six of them women, are wounded.

October 28, 1966: An alert policeman arrests a female communist agent who is about to place a time-bomb under the reviewing stand at a festival in Khanh Hung (Soc Trang), Ba Xuyen province.

November 1, 1966: Communists direct long-range recoilless rifle fire into downtown Saigon during National Day celebration killing or wounding 51 persons.

November 2, 1966: A grenade is thrown by a terrorist at Phu Tho racetrack, Saigon, killing two persons and wounding eight others, including two children.

November 2, 1966: A squad of armed guerrillas attacks a hamlet in Chau Thanh district, Phong Dinh province, then withdraw after detonating a 10-kilogram charge which wrecks a steel bridge across the Dau Sau canal. An aged woman and two children are wounded.

November 3, 1966: Communist squads infiltrate the outskirts of Saigon, fire 24 recoilless rifle shells on the city. Among the buildings hit are Saigon Central Market, Grall Hospital, Saigon Cathedral, a seminary chapel and several private homes. Eight persons are killed and 37 seriously wounded.

November 4, 1966: Communists lob mortar shells into a village in Hau Nghia province, killing one civilian and wounding eight.

November 4, 1966: Communist attack an outpost in Tay Ninh province, killing six civilians and wounding Revolutionary Development team members.

November 7, 1966: A communist squad on Provincial Road 8, Quang Duc province, abducts a hamlet chief and deputy chief.

November 8, 1966: In Chau Doc province, a 53-year old woman is tortured and shot to death; a note pinned to her body accuses her of supporting the South Vietnamese government.

November 16, 1966: A terrorist bomb-laden bicycle on Nguyen Van Thoai Street, Saigon, explodes; two South Vietnamese soldiers and a civilian are wounded.

November 19, 1966: Eight mortar rounds on Can Giuoc, Long An province, kill two children; 12 civilians are wounded some 20 mortar rounds drop on Can Duoc, wounding five civilians.

November 20, 1966: Two policemen are wounded when they attempt to remove several communist banners equipped with explosive devices.

November 23, 1966: Three terrorists dressed in South Vietnamese army uniforms kill a policeman guarding a bridge at Khanh Hung (Soc Trang), Ba Xuyen province. While escaping, they throw two
grenades, wounding seven civilians and two soldiers.

November 26, 1966: A Claymore-type mine is set off in the playground of the Trinh Hoai Duc boys' school, An Thanh, Binh Duong province. Korean troops are using adjacent area as a training site. Three Koreans are killed and a Vietnamese student is wounded.

November 30, 1966: Communist shell Tan Uyen market, Bien Hoa province, killing three civilians and wounding seven.

December 4, 1966: A village chief in Gia Dinh province is abducted from his home in Phu Lam by four men and assassinated by rifle fire.

December 7, 1966: Tran Van Van, Constituent Assemblyman, is assassinated while en route to the National Assembly building; death weapon is a .32 caliber East German pistol; his killers are captured.

December 10, 1966: A terrorist throw a grenade into the Chieu Hoi district playground, Binh Duong City, severely injuring three children.

December 10, 1966: A taxi on Highway 29, Phong Dinh province runs over a mine. Five passengers, all women, are killed and the driver badly wounded.

December 13, 1966: Revolutionary Development personnel attend a course at the Ca Mau school, An Xuyen province; a charge explodes in the classroom, killing three and wounding nine.

December 20, 1966: A squad infiltrates a hamlet in Quang Tin province, kidnaps a former Viet Cong member who recently defected, carries him to another location and shoots him.

December 27, 1966: National Constituent Assemblyman, Dr. Phan Quang Dan, narrowly escapes death when his car explodes in Gia Dinh province. A charge is concealed beneath the vehicle and detonates as Dr. Dan opens the door. Dan escapes with minor wounds but a woman passerby is killed and five civilians wounded. January 6, 1967: A South Vietnamese policeman kin Tan Chu, Kien Phong province, is shot and killed while members of his family look on.

January 7, 1967: An explosion destroys a school and health station in Hong Ngu district, Kien Phong province.

January 8, 1967: In An Xuyen province, terrorists throw a grenade into the house of a hamlet chief. One of the children is killed and three other civilians are wounded.

January 12, 1967: Three civilians are killed and three South Vietnamese soldiers are wounded in an ambush of a truck on National Highway 14, two kilometers south of Tan Canh village.

January 15, 1967: At Thanh Tho, Quang Tin province, communists shoot a merchant when he refuses to give them two oxen.

January 21, 1967: Several communists force their way into Buon Ho, Darlac province, gather the people for a propaganda lecture; kidnap six young men.

February 6, 1967: Communists raid Lieu Tri, Quang Tin province, and abduct a teacher and a local officials. The teacher is killed.

February 6, 1967: A grenade is thrown onto the porch where Kontum deputy province chief is entertaining a group of South Vietnamese officials. The provincial Chief of Education is killed instantly; the Chief of Montagnard Affairs and another official die of wounds the next day. Eight other are seriously wounded.

March 4, 1967: Only two badly wounded prisoners survive as communist prison guards near Can Tho tie 12 South Vietnamese captives together, shoot and stab them before fleeing from advancing South Vietnamese troops; both survivors live despite having their throats cut.

March 5, 1976: In an nocturnal raid, terrorists murder two young Revolutionary Development workers in Vinh Phu, Phu Yen province. Seven additional Revolutionary Development team members are killed in the ensuing gunfight and four are wounded. The raid is the 113th attach on Revolutionary Development workers since the first of the year.

March 30, 1967: Recoilless rifle fire directed at homes of families of South Vietnamese troops demolishes 200 houses and kills 32 men, women and children in the capital city of Bac Lieu province.

April 13, 1967: A South Vietnamese entertainment troupe is the target of nocturnal raid in Lu Song hamlet, near Da Nang. The team chief and his deputy are killed; two team members are wounded.

April 14, 1967: Terrorists kidnap Nguyen Van Son in Binh Chanh district, Gia Dinh province; he is a candidate inthe elections for village council.

April 16, 1967: A squad enters Cam Ha, Quang Nam province and murders an election candidate. One child is killed and three civilians are wounded.

April 18, 1967: Sui Chon hamlet northeast of Saigon is attacked by assassins and arsonists who slay five Revolutionary Development team members, wound three, abduct seven; three of those slain are young girls, whose hands are tied behind their backs before they are shot in the head. One-third of the hamlet's dwelling is destroyed by fire.

April 26, 1967: Nguyen Cam, chief of Ba Dan hamlet, Quang Nam province, is shot and killed by a terrorist. Cam had been a candidate in recent elections.

April 30, 1967: A civilian bus traveling on Highway 1, east of Trang Bang, came upon a bridge destroyed by the Viet Cong. While turning his bus around, the driver ran over a Viet Cong land mine. Twenty persons were wounded and one died later as a result of injuries.


Viet Cong Land Mine Kills 1 And Injures 20 On Civilian Bus


May 10, 1967: A bus loaded with South Vietnamese civilians runs over a land mine near Than Bach Thach, Phu Bon province. One passenger is killed; the driver and five passengers are wounded.

May 11, 1967: More than 200 doctors and medical workers of the Republic of South Viet-Nam have been victims of the communists in the past 10 years, State Health Secretary Dr. Tran Van Lu-Y tells the World Health Organization in Geneva. He says 211 members of his staff have been killed or kidnaped; 174 dispensaries, maternity homes and hospitals destroyed; 40 ambulance mined or machine-gunned.

May 16, 1967: In two separate attacks in Quang Tin and Quang Tri provinces, communists kill eight Revolutionary Development team members and injure five.

May 24, 1967: The information officer of Phu Thanh, Bien Hoa province, and his two children are killed by grenades thrown into their home at 3 a.m.

May 29, 1967: Frogmen emerge from the Perfume River in Hue to blow up a hotel housing members of the International Control Commission. No member of the Indian-Canadian-Polish team is hurt, but five South Vietnamese civilians are killed and 15 wounded. The hotel is 80 percent destroyed.

June 2, 1967: Armed with automatic weapons, two platoons make a post-midnight raid on a Chieu Hoi camp in Long An. they injure five South Vietnamese soldiers and five civilians.

June 27, 1967: Twenty-three civilians are killed when their bus strikes a mine in Binh Duong province, southeast of Lai Khe.

July 6, 1967: Several children walking on the road to a pagoda at Cam Pho hamlet, Quang Nam province, are wounded when a passing truck explodes a Viet-Cong antitank mine. One child dies of wounds.

July 13, 1967: An explosion in a Hue restaurant kills two Vietnamese. Twelve Vietnamese, seven Americans and one Filipino are injured.

July 14, 1967: Terrorists dressed in Vietnamese Army uniforms capture a prison in Quang Nam province, releasing about 1,000 of the 1,200 inmates; they execute 30 in the prison yard. Ten civilians are killed and 29 wounded as the terrorists fight their way out of the area.

July 25, 1967: Communists appear at homes in Binh Trieu, Long An province and kidnap four men, a woman and the woman's 16-year-old son. All six are found the following morning along Highway 13, hands tied behind their backs, a bullet in each head.

August 5, 1967: During a special devices class in a secondary school in An Xuyen province, part of the September election "get out the vote" campaign, a terrorist gives a small girl a hand grenade with the pin extracted and tells her to carry it carefully to her teacher. At the classroom door the child drops the grenade, killing herself and injuring nine children.

August 24, 1967: Terrorists kill one and wound four when they detonate a charge at the home of a Vietnamese policeman in Can Tho, Phong Dinh province.

August 26, 1967: Twenty-two civilians die and six are injured when their bus strikes a mine in Kien Hoa province.

August 27, 1967: A week before presidential and senate elections, terrorists step up their activities. A recoilless rifle and mortar attack on Can Tho kills 46 and injures 227. Ten die and ten are injured in an attack on a Revolutionary Development team in Phuoc Long province. Fourteen civilians, including five children, are wounded by mortar fire southeast of Ban Me Thuot, Darlac province. Two civilians die and one is wounded in an attack on a hamlet in Binh Long province. Six civilians are kidnapped from Phuoc Hung village in Thua Thien province.

August 29, 1967: Groups of communists infiltrate four hamlets in Thanh Binh district, Quang Nam province, kill two civilians and abduct six, including an inter-family chief.

September 1, 1967: Terrorist explosives blast six craters in National Route 4 in Dinh Tuong province, stopping all vehicular traffic except a South Vietnamese army ambulance bus which runs over a pressure mine, killing 13 passengers, injuring 23.

September 3, 1967: Shortly after polls open in Tuy Hoa, Phu Yen province, communists detonate a bomb hidden in a polling place. Three voters are killed and 42 are wounded. Election morning attacks, including long-range shellings, claim 48 lives.

November 8, 1967: The Ky Chanh refugee center in Quang Tin province is infiltrated by terrorists who kill four persons, wound nine others and kidnap nine more; they also fire the camp's school.

December 5, 1967: A name that should be remembered as long as Lidice is Dak Son, a Montagnard village of some 2,000 in Phuoc Long province, the scene of what in some ways remains the worst atrocity in the entire atrocity-ridden war. Some 300 communists stage a reprisal raid on Dak Son. The chief weapon: the flame thrower, 60 of them. The purpose: purely to terrorize. The result: a Carhaginian solution, all but sowing of the salt. After breaking through the flimsy hamlet militia defense, the communists set about systematically to destroy the village and the people in it. Families are incinerated alive in their grass-roofed huts or in the shelters dug beneath their beds. Everything combustible is put to the torch: houses, recently harvested grain on the ground, livestock, fences, trees, people. One of the first Americans to approach the scene the following day: "As we approached the place I thought I saw charred cordwood piled up the way you pile up logs neatly beside the road. When we got closer I could see it was burned bodies of several dozen babies. The odor of burned flesh, which really is an unforgettable smell, reached us outside the village and of course got stronger at the center. People were trying to breath through cabbage leaves . . . I saw a small boy a smaller girl, probably his sister, sort of melted together in a charred embrace. I saw a mother burned black still hiding two children, also burned black. Everything was burned and black. The worst was the wail of the survivors who were picking through the smoldering ruins. One man kept screaming and screaming at the top of his lungs. For an hour he kept it up. He wasn't hurt that I could tell. He just kept screaming until a doctor gave him a shot of morphine or something . . . Fire bloats bodies I learned, and after a few hours the skin splits and peels and curls . . . The far end of the village wasn't burned; the communists ran out of flamethrower fuel before they got to it . .
." Estimated toll: 252 dead, about two-thirds of them women and children; 200 abducted, never to return.


Infant Burned In Dak Son Massacre With the aid of a convalescent patient at the hospital in Song Ba, a badly burned infant is carried to temporary quarters. The Vietnamese government has promised to rebuild their home.


Victims Of Dak Son Massacre Await Burial. Bodies wrapped in available material await burial in one of the few remaining huts. These bodies were removed from a tunnel shelter.


Dec. 14, 1967: Bui Quang San, member of South Viet-Nam's lower house, is gunned down in his home near Saigon. Two days before his murder, San told friends of receiving a letter from the communists threatening his life. His mother, first wife and six children were killed in an earlier Vietnamese Communist raid the city of Hoi An.

December 14, 1967: Saigon reports a total of 232 civilians killed by acts of terrorism in one week.

December 16, 1967: During the intermission at a classical drama at the University of Saigon, a communist appears on stage and begins a propaganda speech about the NLF. A student attempts to climb to the stage and is shot in the stomach. Two other students are shot in the melee that follows.

January 20, 1968: An armed propaganda team enters Tam Quan, Binh Dinh province, gathers 100 people for a propaganda session; one prominent village elder objects and is shot to death.

January 30, 1968: On the night of the new moon marking the new lunar year during a negotiated truce, a Vietnamese communist force of approximately 12,000 invaded Hue quickly turned it into one of the saddest cities on Earth.

The communists stayed for 26 days, during which time they executed nearly 6,000 Hue civilians who the National Liberation Front Central Committee had blacklisted as enemies of Communism.
After being forced to withdraw from Hue, South Vietnamese officials found the bodies of over 3,000 men and women buried in a river bed with their hands tied behind them. Many had been buried alive.

April 6, 1968: A band of communists enters That Vinh Dong, Tay Ninh province; they sell several thousand piasters worth of "war bonds" and then depart, taking with them a school teacher, the hamlet chief's two daughters and nephew and six other males age 15 or 16.

May 5 - June 22, 1968: Some 417 rockets are fired indiscriminately into Saigon, chiefly in the densely-populated Fourth District. The rockets are 107mm Chinese-made and 122mm Soviet-made. Result: 115 dead, 528 hospitalized.

May 29, 1968: A band of communists stops all traffic on Route 155 in Vinh Binh province; 50 civilians are kidnapped, including a Protestant minister; 2 buses and 28 three-wheeled taxis are burned.

June 28, 1968: A major attack is made against the refugee center and fishing village of Son Tra, south of Da Nang. In all, 88 persons are killed and 103 are wounded by mortar and machine gun fire, grenades and explosive charges. Some 450 homes are destroyed leaving 3,000 of the 5,000 persons there homeless.
Later, villagers gathering bamboo to rebuild the center are fired on from ambush.

July 28, 1968: Four gun-wielding terrorists, two of them women, detonate a 60-pound plastique charge in city room of Cholon Daily News, most prominent of city's seven Chinese-language newspapers, after ordering workers out of building; the four escape before police arrive.

September 1, 1968: Doctors at the American Division's 27th Surgical Hospital report two Montagnard women have been brought in for treatment for advanced anemia. It is determined that the North Vietnamese had been systematically draining them of blood for treating their own wounded.

September 12, 1968: A communist report (captured in Binh Duong province) from the Chau Thanh district Security Section to the provincial party Central Committee says that seven prisoners in the district's custody were shot prior to an expected enemy sweep operation: "we killed them to make possible our safe escape," the report says.

September 26, 1968: A grenade is thrown into the crowded Saigon central market, killing one person and wounding 11.

December 11, 1968: A band of terrorists appears at the home of the provincial People's Self-Defense Force chief in Tri Ton, Chau Doc province; they bind his arms with rope and lead him 50 yards from his home where they fire a burst from a submachine gun into his body.

January 6, 1969: The Vietnamese Minister of Education, Dr. Le Minh Tri, is killed when two terrorists on a motorcycle hurl a hand grenade through the window of the car in which he is riding.

February 7, 1969: A satchel charge is exploded in the Can Tho market place, killing one and wounding three.

February 16, 1969: Communists invade and occupy Phuoc My village, Quang Tin province, for several days. Later, survivors describe a series of brutal acts: a 78-year old villager shot for refusing to cut down a tree for a fortification; a 73-year old man killed when he could not or would not leave his home, pleading that infirmities prevented him from walking; an 11-year old boy stabbed; several families grenaded in their homes.

January 19, 1969: A bicycle bomb explodes in a shop in Kien Hoa province (Truc Giang), killing six civilians and wounding 16.

February 24, 1969: Terrorists enter the Catholic Church in Quang Ngai province, assassinate the priest and an altar boy.

February 26, 1969: A bicycle bomb explodes in a shop in Kien Hoa province, killing a child and wounding three other persons.

March 4, 1969: Rector of Saigon University, Professor Tran Anh, is shot by motorcycle-riding terrorists; previously he had been notified that he was on the "death list" of something called the "Suicide Regiment of the Saigon Youth Guard."

March 5, 1969: An attempt is made to assassinate Prime Minister Tran Van Huong by hurling a satchel charge against the automobile in which he is riding. The attempt fails and most of the terrorists are captured.

March 6, 1969: An explosive charge explodes next to a wall at Quang Ngai city hospital, killing a maternity patient and destroying two ambulances.

March 9, 1969: Terrorists enter Xom Lang, Go Cong province, take Mrs. Phan Thi Tri from her home to a nearby rice field where they behead her, explaining that her husband had defected from the communists.

March 9, 1969: A band of communists attack Loc An, Loc My and Loc Hung villages in Quang Nam province, killing two adults and kidnaping ten teenage boys.

March 13, 1969: Kon Sitiu and Kon Bobanh, two Montagnard villages in Kontum province, are raided by terrorists; 15 persons killed; 23 kidnaped, two of whom are later executed; three long-houses, a church and a school burned. A hamlet chief is beaten to death. Survivors say the communists' explanation is: "We are teaching you not to cooperate with the government."

March 21, 1969: A Kontum province refugee center is attacked for the second time by a PAVN battalion using mortars and B-40 rockets. Seventeen civilians are killed and 36 wounded, many of
them women and children. A third of the center is destroyed.

April 4, 1969: A pagoda in Quang Nam province is dynamited, killing four persons, wounding 14.

April 9, 1969: Terrorists attack the Phu Binh refugee center, Quang Ngai province and fire 70 houses, leaving 200 homeless. Four persons are kidnaped.

April 11, 1969: A satchel charge explodes in the Dinh Thanh temple, Long Thanh village, Phong Dinh province, wounding four children.

April 15, 1969: An armed propaganda team invades An Ky refugee center, Quang Ngai province, and attempts to force out the people living there; nine are killed and ten others wounded.

April 16, 1969: The Hoa Dai refugee center in Binh Dinh province is invaded by an armed propaganda team. The refugees are urged to return to their former (communist dominated) village, but refuse;
the communists burn 146 houses.

April 19, 1969: Hieu Duc district refugee center, Quang Nam province, is invaded and ten persons kidnaped.

April 23, 1969: Son Tinh district refugee center, Quang Ngai province, is invaded; two women are shot and 10 persons kidnaped.

May 6, 1969: Le Van Gio, 37, is kidnapped and later shot for refusing to pay "taxes" to a communist agent who entered his village of Vinh Phu, An Giang province.

May 8, 1969: Communist sappers detonate a charge outside the Postal-Telephone Building in Saigon's Kennedy Square, killing four civilians and wounding 19.

May 10, 1969: Sappers explode a charge of plastique in Duong Hong, Quang Nam province, killing eight civilians and wounding four.

May 12, 1969: A communist sapper squad attacks Phu My, Binh Dinh province, with satchel charges, rockets and grenades; 10 civilians are killed, 19 wounded; 87 homes are destroyed.

May 14, 1969: Five communist 122mm rockets land in the residential area of Da Nang, killing five civilians and wounding 18.

June 18, 1969: Three children are wounded when they step on a communist mine while playing near their home in Quan Long (Ca Mau) city, An Xuyen province.

June 19, 1969: In Phu My, Thua Thien province, communists assassinate a 54-year old man and his 70-year old mother.

June 24, 1969: A 122mm communists rocket strikes the Thanh Tam hospital in Ho Nai, Bien Hoa province, killing one patient.

June 30, 1969: Communist mortar shells destroy the Phuoc Long pagoda in Chanh Hiep, Binh Duong province; one Buddhist monk is killed and ten persons wounded.

June 30, 1969: Three members of the People's Self-Defense Force are kidnaped from Phu My, Bien Hoa province.

July 2, 1969: Two communist assassins enter a hamlet office in Thai Phu, Tay Ninh province, shoot and wound the hamlet chief and his deputy.

July 17, 1969: A grenade is thrown into Cho Con market, Da Nang, wounding 13 civilians, most of them women.

April 22, 1960: A communist unit attacks the Chieu Hoi center in Vinh Binh province killing five persons, including two women and a youth, and wounding 11 civilians.

July 18, 1969: Police report two incidents of B-40 rockets being fired into trucks on the highway, one in Quang Duc province in which three civilians were wounded and one in Darlac province which killed the driver.

July 19, 1969: Communist seize and shoot Luong Van Thanh, a People's Self-Defense Force member, Tan Hoi Dong, Dinh Tuong province.

July 30, 1969: Communists rocket the refugee center of Hung My, Binh Duong, wounding 76 persons.

August 5, 1969: Two grenades are thrown into the elementary school in Vinh Chau, Quang Nam province, where a school board meeting is taking place. Five persons re killed and 21 are wounded.

August 7, 1969: Communist sappers set off some 30 separate plastique charges in the U.S. Sixth Evacuation Hospital compound, Cam Ranh Bay, killing two and wounding 57 patients.

August 13, 1969: Officials in Saigon report a total of 17 communist terror attacks on refugee centers in Quang Nam and Thua Thien provinces, leaving 23 persons dead, 75 injured and a large number of homes destroyed or damaged.

August 26, 1969: A nine-month-old baby in his mother's arms is shot in the head by terrorists outside Hoa Phat, Quang Nam province; also found dead are three children between ages six and ten, an elderly man, a middle-aged man and a middle-aged woman, a total of seven, all shot at least once in the back of the head.

September 6, 1969: Communists rocket and mortar the trainingcenter of the National Police Field Force in Dalat, Killing five trainees and wounding 26.

September 9, 1969: South Vietnamese officials report that nearly 5,000 South Vietnamese civilians have been killed by communist terror during 1969.

September 20, 1969: Communists attack Tu Van refugee center in Quang Ngai province, killing 8 persons and wounding two, all families of local People's Self-Defense Force members. In nearby Binh Son, eight members of a police official's family are killed.

September 24, 1969: A bus hits a mine on Highway 1, north of Duc Tho, Quang Ngai province; 12 passengers are killed.

October 13, 1969: A grenade is thrown in the Vi Thanh City Chieu Hoi center, killing three civilians and wounding 46; about half those wounded are dependents.

October 13, 1969: Communists kidnap a Catholic priest and a lay assistant from the church at Phu Hoi, Bien Hoa province.

October 27, 1969: Communists booby trap the body of a People's Self-Defense Force member whom they have killed. When relatives come to retrieve the body the subsequent explosion kills for of them.
chanoi
^also plz do what other posters did... include the sources that you got the information from.
VietGuy7
tofu101,

Chucky is simply doing a bait-n-switch. Talktohand.gif

genius.gif He's comparing apples to oranges. You're are talking about foreigner attrocities. Chucky is talking about Viet on Viet, i.e. civil war attrocities. This is simply grotesque.

You can use his same logic and post flamebait about Korea on Korean attrocities, i.e. N. Korean vs S. Korean, and in particular N. Korea on N. Korea--which resemble that of Cambodian on Cambodian attrocities in that tragic killing fields episode, which Vietnam stopped--to our considerable credit. This alone gives us ENORMOUS moral superiority.

Further, you can bring up the fact that Korean conscripts in the imperial Japanese army were hated even more than the Japanese themselves--this is saying a lot since the Japanese were so utterly satanic in WWII. The Brits who survived the building of that famous/infamous bridge over the River Kwai (???) hated the Koreans even more than they hated their Japanese captors.

Lastly, your constant anti-Korean flame-baiting is coming back to haunt you, regardless of how mindless & misguided I find the Korean (counter) flamers to be. nono.gif
phreezen
THis post for TenAnhLaQuoc

Yeah, we know. Did you not already posted this on an earlier post in serious talk?


It's from a petitiononline by some whiny VNCH.....
gosutron
Why the fu-k have war posts suddenly pop up?
TenAnhLaQuoc
QUOTE(phreezen @ Sep 20 2007, 09:19 PM) *
THis post for TenAnhLaQuoc

Yeah, we know. Did you not already posted this on an earlier post in serious talk?
It's from a petitiononline by some whiny VNCH.....



No.

It's from http://www.11thcavnam.com/education/namterror.htm.

These are recorded events published in books, newspapers, etc... All the website did was collect them and put them in a chronological list.
phreezen
QUOTE(TenAnhLaQuoc @ Sep 20 2007, 10:27 PM) *
No.

It's from http://www.11thcavnam.com/education/namterror.htm.

These are recorded events published in newspapers. All this guy this is collected them and put them in a chronological list.

But you did post it in an earlier thread...
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversio...hp/t132993.html


And it was from a whiny VNCH.
http://www.petitiononline.com/vietland/petition.html


TenAnhLaQuoc
QUOTE(phreezen @ Sep 20 2007, 09:34 PM) *



You're slow. The original source of the list is:

http://www.11thcavnam.com/education/namterror.htm.
phreezen
QUOTE(TenAnhLaQuoc @ Sep 20 2007, 10:36 PM) *
You're slow. The original source of the list is:

http://www.11thcavnam.com/education/namterror.htm.

Why did you lied when I ask if you posted it earlier? And if it was from a whiny VNCH. The petitononline and the 11thcavnam seems to be the only link. Can I get some sources???


11thcavnam isn't the source they take their source from the outside just like the time article on Dak Son.


Let me correct that...Can I please get some unbias sources????
TenAnhLaQuoc
QUOTE(phreezen @ Sep 20 2007, 09:40 PM) *
Why did you lied when I ask if you posted it earlier? And if it was from a whiny VNCH. The petitononline and the 11thcavnam seems to be the only link. Can I get some sources???
11thcavnam isn't the source they take their source from the outside just like the time article on Dak Son.


God, you are too slow.

What was there to lie about? Yes, I posted this list once before on AF.
But people took the list from this site:

http://www.11thcavnam.com/education/namterror.htm

This website only collected them and put them in chronogical order. Google each event the website listed, you will find the source of the event, if not, find old newspapers and books.

Again you are too slow.
tim003
And dont forget about all VNCH soldiers that died in the re education camps after 1975. And boat people, like some of you, but unfortunately died on the way out of the hell hole to look for a better life in the 80s.
phreezen
QUOTE(TenAnhLaQuoc @ Sep 20 2007, 10:45 PM) *
God, you are too slow.

What was there to lie about? Yes, I posted this list once before on AF.
People took the information from this site:

http://www.11thcavnam.com/education/namterror.htm

Again, you are too slow.

This website only colletected them and put them in chronogical order. Google each event the website listed, you will find the source of the event.


I did and nothing turned up? Can I please get some unbias sources???
TenAnhLaQuoc
QUOTE(phreezen @ Sep 20 2007, 09:49 PM) *
I did and nothing turned up? Can I please get some unbias sources???


also in books and old newspapers
jose cuervo
Should I start listing VNCH attrocities? nah I've done it way too much.

I could really be nasty and list all of their crimes from the first 2 Indochina wars. embarassedlaugh.gif kiss.gif

phreezen
QUOTE('TenAnhLaQuoc @ Sep 20 2007, 10:53 PM) *
also in books and old newspapers


I noticed you left parts out from the 11cavnam website..

"In the name of justice and for the sake of all the victims of Vietnamese Communist's war crimes, please ask that they (VCP) be investigated and prosecuted by the newly formed United Nations War Crimes Tribunal.

For your information, here is a list by date of some of the war crimes members of the Vietnamese Communist Party are guilty of."


This is definitely from the petitiononline whiny VNCH. I'm still waiting for some unbias sources....any????
TenAnhLaQuoc
QUOTE(phreezen @ Sep 20 2007, 09:55 PM) *
I noticed you left parts out from the 11cavnam website..

"In the name of justice and for the sake of all the victims of Vietnamese Communist's war crimes, please ask that they (VCP) be investigated and prosecuted by the newly formed United Nations War Crimes Tribunal.

For your information, here is a list by date of some of the war crimes members of the Vietnamese Communist Party are guilty of."
This is definitely from the petitiononline whiny VNCH.



Why are you so slow? This VNCH took the list from 11cavnam and created an online petition and posted the list there.

Are you trying to play dumb?
phreezen
QUOTE(TenAnhLaQuoc @ Sep 20 2007, 10:57 PM) *
Why are you so slow? This VNCH took the list from 11cavnam and created an online petition and posted the list there.

Are you trying to play dumb?


Why do you keep lying?

Look at the wordings. It is exactly from whiny VNCH.


Convenient of you to leave out such things. What? No unbias sources?????LOL
TenAnhLaQuoc
QUOTE(phreezen @ Sep 20 2007, 10:01 PM) *
Why do you keep lying?

Look at the wordings. It is exactly from whiny VNCH.
Convenient of you to leave out such things. What? No unbias sources?????LOL




Forget about the comments of the author of the list.

Google search each event, If you can't find it online, find it in old newspapers, books, video archives. Better yet, go to the place where the event took place, ask the locals there about it.

That's the main thing.



BTW, Any serviceman or person that kills civilians needs to be tried. I don't care whether they are Koreans, Vietcongs, VNCH, Americans...etc.

I'm on nobody's side on this.
phreezen
QUOTE(TenAnhLaQuoc @ Sep 20 2007, 11:08 PM) *
Forget about the comments of the author of the list.

Google search each event, If you can't find it online, find it in old newspapers, books, video archives.

That's the main thing.


Thanks for the laugh.


tdk614
Time to move on people. That war was thing in the past. Both sides probably did do bad deeds to each others. Do you think war is noble? Nope. There were also a lot of propaganda so veracity cannot always be verified.
jose cuervo
Move on goddamn it. It's usually whiny VNCH b!tches that wants to talk about the war.

You have no one to blame but your own crappy leadership.
tdk614
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Sep 20 2007, 10:45 PM) *
Move on goddamn it. It's usually whiny VNCH b!tches that wants to talk about the war.

You have no one to blame but your own crappy leadership.

If you don't pay attention to them, they would soon realize that no one cares to hear about their sordid past. This thread seems so heated, so I tried to cool things down a bit.
ZturboZ
QUOTE(chucky3176 @ Sep 20 2007, 05:51 PM) *
So the Viet Cong were such brave warriors that they had to hide behind women and children, inviting Americans and Koreans to kill them so that they can mass publicize the killings to their own benefit for maximum propaganda. Cowardice of terrorists. This is something that is going on over there in Iraq. The Muslim terrorists took the page right out of the Viet Cong, Vietnamese must be real proud. In the meantime, I have never seen Vietnamese whine about their dead killed by their own kind. Only foreigners are evil, never the Vietnamese.

http://www.wellesley.edu/Polisci/wj/Vietna...crepression.htm


Why don't you sit back in retrospect of what the Japanese did to your people, Koreans.
If you think what the Japanese did to your people was justified, come back here and we will discuss more on the subject matter.
dokkebi
Keep -- tofu101 -- away from Korean Chat. This idoit is keep making topics about Vietnam war. Koreans fought a war in Vietnam, it was to kill or be killed situation. Some civilians got killed in cross-fire or even shot at . During the war innocent people die, and Korean soldiers are not responsible for the death of civilians.




asean.asia
Do not clarify for the worst. The so called "communists" are people of the same ethnic kinh. The ones that should not be considered are the non-kinh ethnic like you tim. You are in fact not the people of the same ethnic as us, so do not run around considering yourself vietnamese. icon_twisted.gif

I was referring the people of kinh ethnic as Vietnamese, so stop clarify your non-sense. laugh.gif


QUOTE(tim003 @ Sep 20 2007, 07:14 PM) *
I just want to clarify that the Vietnameses that Asean refered is VC.
GenomVirues
Korean needs to admit they counted civilian in their kill/death ratio through air strikes, massacre, etc... I guess that's too much to ask coz it damage Korean superiority. coz we corean wer'e super!!! Japanese are evil they killed innocent corean blah blah blah. Korean marines are supper!


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1e0_1181380207

I guess this lady is lying coz according to some Korean the survivors' testimony is FALSE and non trust worthy. Lying @$$ korean lady talking about how she was raped 40 times a day by Japanese soldiers. All lies, Japanese would never rape ugly korean. Why? Because Japanese soldiers are/were highly intelligence and discipline. har har har.


From now on I'll denial and won't acknowledge anything bad that Japanese had done to Korean.

Its so easy ignoring $hit no wonder why lots of people do it.


Japanese massacre/raping of Korean? I dun'know' whatchu'talkin bout!!!!!!!



chanoi
QUOTE(dokkebi @ Sep 21 2007, 12:45 AM) *
During the war innocent people die, and Korean soldiers are not responsible for the death of civilians.


so base on your logic it was okay for the imperial Japanese to raped and put Korean women into slave prostitution? Civilians get caught in a crossfire/friendly fire is one thing but to specifically target civilians is murder.
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