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VAMAN
Alright so the top two finalists of Indian Idol 3 are.


Amit Paul from Shillong, Meghalaya.


Prashant Tamang from Darjeeling, West Bengal.

http://www.indianidol.sifymax.in/
Nath
It's good to see two people from the north-eastern states going head to head in the final.

I've read that Prashant Tamang is receiving "god-like" status from ethnic Nepalis in South Asia. Since Prashant's a policeman, I wonder if the next time he goes and arrests someone, that person would say, "Before you arrest me, could you please sing me a song?" embarassedlaugh.gif

But I would've liked Meiyang Chang to win. beerchug.gif
VAMAN
Prashant Tamang is the new Indian Idol.


Amit Paul needed to be the Indian Idol instead, he is so much better than Prashant. bawling.gif
Jagger
There have been quite a few Northeast Indians being recognized in mainstream Indian pop culture over the past few years.
ACMILAN1983
I ended up watching when they announced the results last night, as my mum watched it and personally preferred Prashant to Amit anyway.
Nath
Thank goodness Prashant won. Otherwise it may have led to a few suicides and rioting in Nepal. embarassedlaugh.gif
VAMAN
Amit should have won Indian Idol. I am following Indian Idol right from the start. Amit Paul's diction and pronunciation is flawless and he sings like a dream. Amit is the ideal Indian Idol material. Prashant won because of pathetic regionalism. People should desist from regionalism and vote for the better contestant. Last year's Indian Idol had the same outcome, the guy from Rajasthan won, but the dude from Andhra Pradesh was much better singer.
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Sep 24 2007, 06:24 PM) *
Amit should have won Indian Idol. I am following Indian Idol right from the start. Amit Paul's diction and pronunciation is flawless and he sings like a dream. Amit is the ideal Indian Idol material. Prashant won because of pathetic regionalism. People should desist from regionalism and vote for the better contestant. Last year's Indian Idol had the same outcome, the guy from Rajasthan won, but the dude from Andhra Pradesh was much better singer.


Ah I don't think it's anything to worry about Vaman, both were good singers (I haven't watched it completely but saw them both a few times) and really they'll both get contracts now, so both should be happy.

You're right though, regionalism seems to have played a part, which isn't always great, but in all honesty I don't think it will totally go away well beyond our lifetime.
Role Model
Prashant tamang had strong backup! Amit's voice is admirable but i felt like he often forgets to tie up loose ends unlike prashant. Mr. Tamang made a huge progress.... amit wasn't upto that level his uncovered nervousness and weakned confidence was constantly making me feel that prashant is going to win anyhow. but if you ask me honestly p.shant dominated in votes..... My sister alone collected NRS 77,000 and flied to Darjeeling just to vote Prashant... it was one sided final battle i think you guys know it.

I have to admit Amit's die hard fan are too much though... they're not allowing neplease people in their town to celebrate prashant's victory 0.o
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(Role Model @ Sep 25 2007, 10:04 AM) *
My sister alone collected NRS 77,000 and flied to Darjeeling just to vote Prashant... it was one sided final battle i think you guys know it.


Isn't that a lot?
Role Model
well incomparision it's nothing......
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(Role Model @ Sep 25 2007, 11:14 AM) *
well incomparision it's nothing......

What is the exchange rate for Nepalese Rupees compared to Indian Rupees?
VAMAN
QUOTE(Role Model @ Sep 25 2007, 10:34 PM) *
Prashant tamang had strong backup! Amit's voice is admirable but i felt like he often forgets to tie up loose ends unlike prashant. Mr. Tamang made a huge progress.... amit wasn't upto that level his uncovered nervousness and weakned confidence was constantly making me feel that prashant is going to win anyhow. but if you ask me honestly p.shant dominated in votes..... My sister alone collected NRS 77,000 and flied to Darjeeling just to vote Prashant... it was one sided final battle i think you guys know it.

I have to admit Amit's die hard fan are too much though... they're not allowing neplease people in their town to celebrate prashant's victory 0.o

Sorry bro but I really don't like your thinking especially your sister's thinking. She need not be that serious about voting. And what loose ends you are talking about? Amit is clearly the better singer, its just that he didn't have that mass base that Prashant had. It is clearly regionalism at its worst.

QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Sep 25 2007, 11:48 PM) *
What is the exchange rate for Nepalese Rupees compared to Indian Rupees?


http://finance.yahoo.com/currency
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Sep 25 2007, 01:18 PM) *


77,000 Nepalese Rupees = $1,083 US Dollars!

That is quite a bit of money.....
Jagger
QUOTE(Role Model @ Sep 25 2007, 06:04 PM) *
Prashant tamang had strong backup! Amit's voice is admirable but i felt like he often forgets to tie up loose ends unlike prashant. Mr. Tamang made a huge progress.... amit wasn't upto that level his uncovered nervousness and weakned confidence was constantly making me feel that prashant is going to win anyhow. but if you ask me honestly p.shant dominated in votes..... My sister alone collected NRS 77,000 and flied to Darjeeling just to vote Prashant... it was one sided final battle i think you guys know it.

How many more Nepalis flew over to West Bengal just to vote for Prashant? This is madness!
Role Model
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Sep 25 2007, 03:18 PM) *
Sorry bro but I really don't like your thinking especially your sister's thinking. She need not be that serious about voting. And what loose ends you are talking about? Amit is clearly the better singer, its just that he didn't have that mass base that Prashant had. It is clearly regionalism at its worst.
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency

i mean to say... he used to look so nervous... no winning spirit at all icon_neutral.gif [ he always looked nervous... loose end ] unlike prashant. i wasn't talking about the vocaling thing. Amit has got way better vocal that's for sure. didn't i mentioned earlier Amit's singing is admirable... i suggest you to go through my current post again bro but if you let sloppy thinking go unchecked then ..........................................................

Neplease people's countless vote supported prashant's deeply rooted motivations and ultimately he became indian idol

QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 25 2007, 06:37 PM) *
How many more Nepalis flew over to West Bengal just to vote for Prashant?

you don't wanna know.

QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 25 2007, 06:37 PM) *
This is madness!

THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! rotflmao.gif
yea sort of.... madness.... people of middle class family gave up their salary just to vote him icon_neutral.gif Neplease people have such a hugeeeeeeee heart.There's always room for someone. They're craZy that's a different thing
Nath
I'm sure Amit will still go on to have a successful music career. In other Idols such as US and Australia, some contestants who came runner-up actually have gone on to be more successful than those who won in their respective series.

And for Prashant, even if he doesn't gain that much success and popularity in "India Proper", he will still have a massive following in Nepal, Sikkim and Darjeeling.

So it's a win-win situation for both guys. beerchug.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(Role Model @ Sep 26 2007, 07:59 PM) *
you don't wanna know.

Then how large is the Nepali community in India?

QUOTE(Role Model @ Sep 26 2007, 07:59 PM) *
THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! rotflmao.gif

Sparta? This is INDIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(Nath @ Sep 27 2007, 10:51 PM) *
I'm sure Amit will still go on to have a successful music career. In other Idols such as US and Australia, some contestants who came runner-up actually have gone on to be more successful than those who won in their respective series.

And for Prashant, even if he doesn't gain that much success and popularity in "India Proper", he will still have a massive following in Nepal, Sikkim and Darjeeling.

So it's a win-win situation for both guys. beerchug.gif

Agreed. Making it to the runner-up stage is a big achievement. Amit has nothing to be ashamed of. He should still be able to get plenty of offers from other music companies.

There have been a handful of successful Nepalis in the mainstream Indian media, like Udit Narayan, one of the most successful singers in India (and one of the judges on Indian Idol), and the actress Manisha Koirala for example. There's no reason why Prashant shouldn't be successful either in the mainstream Indian media.
VAMAN
QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 28 2007, 06:57 AM) *
Then how large is the Nepali community in India?

What will you call Nepali and what will you call Indian, can you distinguish? Even Nepalis and Indians are unable to do that. To tell you the truth there are more Gurkhas in India than in Nepal.
Nath
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Sep 28 2007, 02:02 PM) *
What will you call Nepali and what will you call Indian, can you distinguish? Even Nepalis and Indians are unable to do that. To tell you the truth there are more Gurkhas in India than in Nepal.


I'm not quite sure about this but wouldn't most Gurkhas be members of the Tibeto-Burman speaking ethnic groups like Rai, Limbu, Gurung and Magar? So wouldn't the Gurkhas in India on the basis on culture, language and even physical appearance be easily distinguishable from "mainstream" Indians? But of course I understand that those Hindu Nepalis especially of the Bahun and Chettri castes who have been in India for several generations would be almost indistinguishable from other Hindu Indians.
Jagger
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Sep 28 2007, 05:02 AM) *
What will you call Nepali and what will you call Indian, can you distinguish? Even Nepalis and Indians are unable to do that. To tell you the truth there are more Gurkhas in India than in Nepal.

Yes, you can distinguish by language. The native language of all ethnic Nepalis is obviously Nepali. An ethnic Nepali of Indian nationality (like Prashant) would be considered a Nepali Indian.

QUOTE(Nath @ Sep 28 2007, 06:26 AM) *
I'm not quite sure about this but wouldn't most Gurkhas be members of the Tibeto-Burman speaking ethnic groups like Rai, Limbu, Gurung and Magar? So wouldn't the Gurkhas in India on the basis on culture, language and even physical appearance be easily distinguishable from "mainstream" Indians? But of course I understand that those Hindu Nepalis especially of the Bahun and Chettri castes who have been in India for several generations would be almost indistinguishable from other Hindu Indians.

Most Gurkhas speak Nepali, an Indo-Aryan language, but there are a few Tibeto-Burman speaking tribes (like the ones you mentioned) who are also considered Gurkhas.
Role Model
QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 27 2007, 08:27 PM) *
Then how large is the Nepali community in India?

large enough


QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 27 2007, 08:27 PM) *
Sparta? This is INDIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is India. This is NEPAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(VAMAN @ Sep 27 2007, 11:02 PM) *
What will you call Nepali and what will you call Indian, can you distinguish? Even Nepalis and Indians are unable to do that. To tell you the truth there are more Gurkhas in India than in Nepal.

There's a fine line in between.


QUOTE(Nath @ Sep 28 2007, 12:26 AM) *
I'm not quite sure about this but wouldn't most Gurkhas be members of the Tibeto-Burman speaking ethnic groups like Rai, Limbu, Gurung and Magar? So wouldn't the Gurkhas in India on the basis on culture, language and even physical appearance be easily distinguishable from "mainstream" Indians? But of course I understand that those Hindu Nepalis especially of the Bahun and Chettri castes who have been in India for several generations would be almost indistinguishable from other Hindu Indians.

you missed Sunwar tribe icon_wink.gif

+ bonus +


Prashant Tamang is coming to Pokhara,(my hometown) Nepal this sunday for his concert and needless to say people are going crazy. you guys have no idea about prashant's craze here in Nepal..... I'm not big fan of him though. He bugs me actually cause people say we share somewhat similar look
Nath
QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 29 2007, 04:25 AM) *
Yes, you can distinguish by language. The native language of all ethnic Nepalis is obviously Nepali. An ethnic Nepali of Indian nationality (like Prashant) would be considered a Nepali Indian.
Most Gurkhas speak Nepali, an Indo-Aryan language, but there are a few Tibeto-Burman speaking tribes (like the ones you mentioned) who are also considered Gurkhas.


What I meant to say was most Gurkhas would belong to Nepali ethnic groups whose mother tongue or ancestral language would be a Tibeto-Burman one. But of course for "official" or interethnic communication Nepali would be the lingua franca.


QUOTE(Role Model)
you missed Sunwar tribe

+ bonus +


How could I forget! icon_wink.gif



VAMAN
QUOTE(Nath @ Sep 28 2007, 10:56 AM) *
I'm not quite sure about this but wouldn't most Gurkhas be members of the Tibeto-Burman speaking ethnic groups like Rai, Limbu, Gurung and Magar?

Yes there are more Gurkhas in India than in Nepal. It surprises you? Will you please tell me how come Tibetian and Burmese languages are more in common with each other than any of the so called Aryan languages. Why Nepalese languages are categorized as Tibeto-Burman only? Don't you think that Tibeto-Burman, Indo-Aryan, Dravidian all these laguage categories are redundant and shouldn't be in use anymore?

QUOTE(Nath @ Sep 28 2007, 10:56 AM) *
So wouldn't the Gurkhas in India on the basis on culture, language and even physical appearance be easily distinguishable from "mainstream" Indians? But of course I understand that those Hindu Nepalis especially of the Bahun and Chettri castes who have been in India for several generations would be almost indistinguishable from other Hindu Indians.

I think you are a bit ignorant in this. Please go to western Himalayas to Himachal Pradesh, Garhwal, Kumaon they are not different from Nepali people in looks or culture wise, may be subtle differences. And what do you mean by "mainstream" Indians ? What do you know about the interaction of Buddism and Hinduism in Nepal ?

What do you know about the interaction of populations in Terai region and all along the Indo-Nepal border and elsewhere in Nepal?

What I see is the diffusion of cultures and people over the span of thousands of years. If that is not enough then I don't think anything else would be enough.
VAMAN
QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 28 2007, 11:55 PM) *
Yes, you can distinguish by language. The native language of all ethnic Nepalis is obviously Nepali. An ethnic Nepali of Indian nationality (like Prashant) would be considered a Nepali Indian.

This is the side panel of an Indian 10 Rupees banknote. The Ninth language from the top is the Nepali language.

Do I need to say anything else?

You can call him Nepali Indian or Terai people Indian Nepali, these things doesn't matter. The thing is Prashant's ancestors didn't come from Nepal, they are the natives of Darjeeling.

QUOTE(Role Model @ Sep 29 2007, 01:48 AM) *
There's a fine line in between.

Will you please explain about what 'fine line' you are referring to here? And no more one liners anymore please.
Proud_Panjabi
The Gurkha warriors are one off the finest in the Indian army, known to be ruthless and are feared. The British took couple off the Gurkha regiments, India still have about 8, the majority.
VAMAN
Now this is sensitive. The RJ sucks.

QUOTE
Idol aftermath: Siliguri on fire over RJ remark, army out

Pramod Giri, Hindustan Times
Kolkata/Siliguri, September 28, 2007

First Published: 18:28 IST(28/9/2007)
Last Updated: 00:30 IST(29/9/2007)

Indefinite curfew was imposed and shoot-at-sight orders issued in Siliguri town following a violent communal flare-up during a rally on Friday. The army and BSF had to be called out to control the situation. The rally was protesting against the reported derogatory remarks made by a radio jockey against Gorkhas (Nepalis) soon after Prashant Tamant was chosen Indian Idol.

Trouble began around 11 am when the rally organised by Nepalis was crossing Siliguri Sadar Hospital. It had almost passed the hospital when some protestors had an argument with a patient’s attendants and beat up the latter. This invited local reaction and a few Nepali-speaking people were beaten up. Soon, both sides were pelting stones. Many, including Siliguri ASP Rajesh Yadav, were injured.

As the violence escalated, more policemen were rushed in. The mob torched scores of vehicles. Police carted off hundreds of protestors and used 30 rounds of tear gas shells. When nothing helped, police opened seven rounds of fire in which two people were reportedly injured. North Bengal Police IG RJS Nalwa and Darjeeling SP Rajesh Subarno monitored the situation from the spot. Finally, the army was called in around 6 pm.

Darjeeling DM Rajesh Pandey told reporters that the situation was beyond control and curfew had been imposed in Siliguri for an indefinite period. Pandey and Nalwa said the army and the BSF have been called in.

Late night reports said mobs were pelting stones at army, BSF and police personnel. This led authorities to issue shoot-at-sight orders. There are also reports of communal tension.

Idol winner Tamant has appealed for peace. “I urge you all to maintain calm, otherwise I may not be able to concentrate in my career,” Tamang said in an appeal on a private TV channel in Bengali and Nepali.

http://www.hindustantimes.com
Nath
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Sep 29 2007, 11:27 PM) *
Yes there are more Gurkhas in India than in Nepal. It surprises you? Will you please tell me how come Tibetian and Burmese languages are more in common with each other than any of the so called Aryan languages. Why Nepalese languages are categorized as Tibeto-Burman only? Don't you think that Tibeto-Burman, Indo-Aryan, Dravidian all these laguage categories are redundant and shouldn't be in use anymore?
I think you are a bit ignorant in this. Please go to western Himalayas to Himachal Pradesh, Garhwal, Kumaon they are not different from Nepali people in looks or culture wise, may be subtle differences. And what do you mean by "mainstream" Indians ? What do you know about the interaction of Buddism and Hinduism in Nepal ?

What do you know about the interaction of populations in Terai region and all along the Indo-Nepal border and elsewhere in Nepal?

What I see is the diffusion of cultures and people over the span of thousands of years. If that is not enough then I don't think anything else would be enough.


VAMAN, I didn't mean to start a big debate because to be honest I just suck at debating. icon_wink.gif

I never said anything about Tibeto-Burman languages being more common in Nepal. What I said was as far as I know most Nepalis who are recruited into the Gurkha army would come from ethnic groups whose ancestral languages would be classified as Tibeto-Burman such as Rai, Limbu, Gurung etc. But as I said in my previous post, Nepali an Indo-Aryan language is the lingua franca because it is afterall the only official language.

Maybe you're right, grouping languages in a place like Nepal where there is so much fusion of a plethora of cultures over thousands of years would be quite misleading and even redundant. But sometimes I just like to put things into categories. Sorry that's just me. icon_smile.gif

As you know I am not a Nepali nor have I been to Nepal so this subject isn't really my 'area of expertise'. So whatever you say, bro. beerchug.gif
Tenjikuronin
I thought Gurkhas were just people who follow the teachings of Rajput Guru Gorkanath.......
VAMAN
Indian Idol Prashant charms America

http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/53825/indian-idol-prashant-charms-america.html
jeffry00
Hi Guys, come to see my blog and vote your indian idol, Abhijeet Sawant, among the idols i have his review and performance on http://news-to-you.blogspot.com/2007/12/as...-idol-must.html.


JH
Mona
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Sep 22 2007, 04:03 PM) *
Alright so the top two finalists of Indian Idol 3 are.


Amit Paul from Shillong, Meghalaya.


Prashant Tamang from Darjeeling, West Bengal.

http://www.indianidol.sifymax.in/

i love indian idol biggthumpup.gif
JuicyFruit
You haven't been on in a while.
VAMAN
Mona got married and had twin boys
Raabert : Baas, Mona ke judwa ladkae hua hai.
Ajeet : Theek hai humne inke naam bhi soch liye hai. Pehle ka Peter aur
doosre ka Repeater.

Later, Mona had twin girls
Raabert : Baas, Mona ke judwa ladkiya hui hai.
Ajeet : Theek hai humne inke naam bhi soch liye hai - pehli ka Kate aur
doosri ka DupliKate.

biggthumpup.gif
Mona
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ Dec 9 2007, 01:27 PM) *
You haven't been on in a while.

yes, i went on a 3 months vacation, soon be off again since i'm for another few weeks vacation in uk.
JuicyFruit
Where did you go?
VAMAN
The first Indian Idol, Abhijeet Sawant performing in Asian Idol 2007 held at Jakarta, Indonesia.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vch1KdaraE8

He needs to work up his English language skills.
jiggyiggy
Prashant would be model material if he could do something about all those lil spots on his face.
jiggyiggy
Prashant would be model material if he could do something about all those lil spots on his face.
VAMAN
QUOTE(jiggyiggy @ Dec 20 2007, 02:56 AM) *
Prashant would be model material if he could do something about all those lil spots on his face.

I am worried that how Prashant will sing an English song in the next Asian Idol contest. He can't even speak English properly, let alone singing an English song. I really wanted Amit Paul to be the Indian Idol, he is capable of singing any type of song in any language.
Jagger
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Dec 19 2007, 06:02 AM) *
The first Indian Idol, Abhijeet Sawant performing in Asian Idol 2007 held at Jakarta, Indonesia.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vch1KdaraE8

He needs to work up his English language skills.

He wasn't used to singing in English, and it's also difficult to adapt to an from an Indian style to a Western style of singing. I thought his second Hindi performance (Junoon) was probably the most unique from the lot (but could have been better if he sang it in its slower original style), but I kinda guessed he wouldn't win with his rather weak English performance.

By the way, the eventual winner of Asian Idol was Hady Mirza, a Malay from Singapore.
ReichsLeiter
the shillong guy deserved the title. i hate indian idol <_<
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(jiggyiggy @ Dec 19 2007, 06:26 PM) *
Prashant would be model material if he could do something about all those lil spots on his face.


Amit is better-looking.
ReichsLeiter
^agree
JuicyFruit
I like your sig.
ReichsLeiter
n me urs icon_wink.gif
i think i saw her on disney channel
JuicyFruit
Yep, her name is Brenda Song.
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