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ZTE and Philippines
ZTE and the Philippine Scandal
Bruce Einhorn
Gloria Arroyo, the Philippine president, has cancelled a controversial $330 million deal that would have called for Chinese telecom equipment maker ZTE to supply equipment to the government’s planned broadband network. (For more on that move, click here.) ZTE rivals have been crying foul ever since April, when the Chinese and the Filipinos signed the deal, and the Supreme Court suspended the broadband project on Sept. 11.

The project may be over, but ZTE’s Philippine problems are not. ZTE says it has done nothing wrong and the accusations coming out of Manila are focusing on local officials, not people from the Chinese company. Still, the news is bound to be embarrassing for a company that wants to build up sales globally. Among the critics calling for a congressional investigation into the ZTE deal is one of the most powerful organizations in the country, the Catholic Church. According to this report in the local press both Archbishops Oscar V. Cruz and Angel Lagdameo yesterday called for Romulo L. Neri, former director general of the National Economic and Development Authority (which approved the government loan that helped ZTE land the deal), to tell investigators what he knew about the contract. And Neri seems to have heeded that call. In testimony before the Philippine Senate today, Neri said he had received a bribe offer of 200 million pesos (or $4.42 million) from another Philippine official.


03:56 AM


calliezhou
i hear denials, denials, denials.....
Iki
What people dont understand is that the philippines is not as poor as people think. There are ALOT of money coming in and out of our country. Thats why corruption is so intense.

joey marques made a couple of hudrend thousand dollars off of walis tingting.... imagine other things... corruption might be in the billions...
calliezhou
QUOTE(Iki @ Oct 3 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]3244596[/snapback]
What people dont understand is that the philippines is not as poor as people think. There are ALOT of money coming in and out of our country. Thats why corruption is so intense.

joey marques made a couple of hudrend thousand dollars off of walis tingting.... imagine other things... corruption might be in the billions...


and politicians get away with it... thumbsdown.gif icon_twisted.gif



martin_nuke
What happened to the China renting 1 million hectares of farmland in the Philippines? In that deal China would be deploying Farmers from China that would displace many Filipino Farmers.
calliezhou
is it true that a lot of filipino ofws in china were left jobless due to the zte scandal?
Iki
QUOTE(martin_nuke @ Oct 2 2007, 11:45 PM) [snapback]3245040[/snapback]
What happened to the China renting 1 million hectares of farmland in the Philippines? In that deal China would be deploying Farmers from China that would displace many Filipino Farmers.



I know. They are using our own land to make the product, then they will be selling that back to us... The chinese pretty much dominate the fruit market now they want to dominate the rice market.....
Iki
QUOTE(calliezhou @ Oct 3 2007, 12:12 AM) [snapback]3245139[/snapback]
is it true that a lot of filipino ofws in china were left jobless due to the zte scandal?



Its possible... the chinese gov are known to play games like that. They dont care...


Our president must be getting paid so much money by the chinese...
calliezhou
QUOTE(Iki @ Oct 3 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]3245154[/snapback]
Its possible... the chinese gov are known to play games like that. They dont care...
Our president must be getting paid so much money by the chinese...



must be...

i bet her croonies and the 1st gentleman gets a lot .....
Suzuka00
sana magka-edsa 4 na.
calliezhou
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ Oct 3 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]3245634[/snapback]
sana magka-edsa 4 na.




huh? confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif
after edsa 1, edsa has no meaning na.....
martin_nuke
I think the Edsa series is already boring why not try other places like C5 instead of Edsa and we will call it eh C5 1 revolution.
Hensoldt
Revolution in the real sense, not just toppling a corrupt administration and replacing it with an equally or even more corrupt one. thumbsdown.gif

We need a nationalist revolution, and it should start within ourselves first.
Suzuka00
QUOTE(Hensoldt @ Oct 3 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]3246823[/snapback]
Revolution in the real sense, not just toppling a corrupt administration and replacing it with an equally or even more corrupt one. thumbsdown.gif

We need a nationalist revolution, and it should start within ourselves first.

we should topple fascism first.
uwagdavao2
the government should have been focusing on additional schools and classrooms first instead of wasting their time arguing about their commissions!
Ek-ek
Lahat iyan puro magnanakaw!

Imagine the son of Joey De Venecia winning the bid in ZTE contract? He should not be there bidding since he is the son of JDV which happens to be the speaker of the house
Suzuka00
actually i plan to go to edsa 4,once it happens
alibata
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ Oct 4 2007, 04:52 AM) [snapback]3247275[/snapback]
we should topple fascism first.


I think it should be the other way around.
Why not topple leftist groups and communists

o god i hate them they make our lives miserable.
Speak
How about that comment Senator Santiago made about Chinese on public TV in regards to this deal?

"China invented civilization in the East, but as well it invented corruption for all of human civilization"

Her excuse was that she was suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome. embarassedlaugh.gif
Ek-ek
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ Oct 12 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]3262992[/snapback]
actually i plan to go to edsa 4,once it happens


thumbsdown.gif confused.gif icon_twisted.gif Kahit EDSA 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Hindi magtitino ang mga corrupt officials na iyan , what is becoming alarming is that media , even private people are also benefited with these anomalies
Suzuka00
QUOTE(alibata @ Oct 12 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]3262999[/snapback]
I think it should be the other way around.
Why not topple leftist groups and communists

o god i hate them they make our lives miserable.

tignan nyo ang japan maunlad even though there is a legal communist party,wag na tayong magpa-tuta at magpasipsip sa kano.

QUOTE(Ek-ek @ Oct 12 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]3263026[/snapback]
thumbsdown.gif confused.gif icon_twisted.gif Kahit EDSA 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Hindi magtitino ang mga corrupt officials na iyan , what is becoming alarming is that media , even private people are also benefited with these anomalies

kasi c cory she focused on her own self such as using her income as a president to find her relatives in china, i think thinking only of herself is what cory is wrong and if she focused she could have not allowed such fascists such as FVR and GMA to step in the presidency in the first place.
kahntoot
QUOTE(Speak @ Oct 12 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]3263002[/snapback]
How about that comment Senator Santiago made about Chinese on public TV in regards to this deal?

"China invented civilization in the East, but as well it invented corruption for all of human civilization"

Her excuse was that she was suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome. embarassedlaugh.gif


Not true, of course. Everyone knows she's suffering from a perpetual case of neurotic schizophrenia. She should be called the bipolar lady.
Ek-ek
QUOTE(kahntoot @ Oct 13 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]3263956[/snapback]
Not true, of course. Everyone knows she's suffering from a perpetual case of neurotic schizophrenia. She should be called the bipolar lady.


embarassedlaugh.gif Are you the spokeperson of Mirriam "Brenda" Santiago?

icon_twisted.gif Another story of a corrupt politician. noong 1992 poor na daw siya pero after her alliance with ERAP ESTRADA nakabili at nakapatayo ng bahay sa La Vista a posh residence in Quezon City!


alibata
suzuka

I thought Japan is a democratic country and there
in no insurgency there.

Well if you side with the commies thats your choice
but remember this

SISON, your leader, is living a comfortable life in
in a europian country, and by the way he was dancing with
ARA MINA, wow thats some kind of living an excellent
life.

WHILE his subordinates are dying in the streets of Manila
yelling and making perwisyo of the economy and of the
ordinary people who want to go to school, to work and make
money.

While his supporters in the country side eating KAMOTE and
SITAW.

wow he's really a good leader TO DIE FOR.
Suzuka00
QUOTE
suzuka

I thought Japan is a democartic country and there
in no insurgensy there.

Well if you side with the commies thats your choice
but remember this

SISON, your leader, is leaving a comfortable life in
in a europian country, and by the way he was dancing
ARA MINA, wow thats some kind of a living an excellent
life.

WHILE his subordinates are dying in the streets of Manila
yelling and making perwisyo of the economy and
ordinary people who want to go to school, to work and make
money.

While his supporters in the country side eating KAMOTE and
SITAW.

wow hes really a good leader TO DIE FOR.

hindi ako maka-communista I am anti-gloria

yng gloria na iyan tuta ng kano puppet ng america.

sabi nga nung mga nag edsa 2 na mas malala yung napaupo nila kapalit ni erap.
Pogpog
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ Oct 14 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]3266029[/snapback]
hindi ako maka-communista I am anti-gloria

yng gloria na iyan tuta ng kano puppet ng america.

sabi nga nung mga nag edsa 2 na mas malala yung napaupo nila kapalit ni erap.


kaninong kasalanan ngayon yan na pinagdudusahan ng buong pilipinas?

At kung palitan ngayon ninyo si Gloria sa bagong bersiyon ninyong EDSA, si Noli ba ang uupo? Sigurado ba kayong hindi siya maging malala pa kay Gloria o kun sino man ang papalit niya?

Bakit kayo lang sa Luzon lalo na sa Metro Manila ang nag dedesisyon para sa buong Pilipinas? Mas may karapatan ba kayo sa mga taga Visayas at Mindanao?

Sinong presidente ba ng Pilipinas ang hindi naging "tuta ng kano"? Mula sa pagka mulat ko ng isipan, yan nalang lagi ang naririnig ko sa mga aktibista. At sa limang Presidente naraanan ko lahat sila binansagan "tuta ng kano", "Fascist", "berdugo", "anti-human rights", " _____ resign!", etc. pero sa pagkaka-alam ko isa lang ang tama doon at eto ay ang "Corrupt".

Pero bakit isa lang ang ating sinisisi? Hindi ba dapat ang ating sisihin ay ang ating mga sarili? Bakit ika 'nyo? Dahil nagpabaya tayo! Tuwing eleksyon, sino ba ang kinakampanya natin? sino ba ang binoboto natin? 'Di ba puro mga corrupt din? Kasi wala tayong paki-alam!

Mas binibigyan pa natin halaga ang buhay artista. Tumingin ka at makinig sa iyong paligid, 'di ba mas maririnig mo ang pinag didiskusyunan ay kun ano na ang nangyari kay "marimar" o kung anong TV Drama man ang kasalukuyang pinapalabas.

Umpisahan mo muna sa lugar niyo mag EDSA. Unahin mo muna sa pamilya niyo tapos sa kumonidad mo o Barangay, tapos sa gobyernong lokal ninyo bago kayo mag EDSA para sa buong Pilipinas at baka paniwalaan ko na kayo.

Suzuka00
QUOTE(Pogpog @ Oct 14 2007, 07:44 AM) [snapback]3266145[/snapback]
kaninong kasalanan ngayon yan na pinagdudusahan ng buong pilipinas?

At kung palitan ngayon ninyo si Gloria sa bagong bersiyon ninyong EDSA, si Noli ba ang uupo? Sigurado ba kayong hindi siya maging malala pa kay Gloria o kun sino man ang papalit niya?

Bakit kayo lang sa Luzon lalo na sa Metro Manila ang nag dedesisyon para sa buong Pilipinas? Mas may karapatan ba kayo sa mga taga Visayas at Mindanao?

Sinong presidente ba ng Pilipinas ang hindi naging "tuta ng kano"? Mula sa pagka mulat ko ng isipan, yan nalang lagi ang naririnig ko sa mga aktibista. At sa limang Presidente naraanan ko lahat sila binansagan "tuta ng kano", "Fascist", "berdugo", "anti-human rights", " _____ resign!", etc. pero sa pagkaka-alam ko isa lang ang tama doon at eto ay ang "Corrupt".

Pero bakit isa lang ang ating sinisisi? Hindi ba dapat ang ating sisihin ay ang ating mga sarili? Bakit ika 'nyo? Dahil nagpabaya tayo! Tuwing eleksyon, sino ba ang kinakampanya natin? sino ba ang binoboto natin? 'Di ba puro mga corrupt din? Kasi wala tayong paki-alam!

Mas binibigyan pa natin halaga ang buhay artista. Tumingin ka at makinig sa iyong paligid, 'di ba mas maririnig mo ang pinag didiskusyunan ay kun ano na ang nangyari kay "marimar" o kung anong TV Drama man ang kasalukuyang pinapalabas.

Umpisahan mo muna sa lugar niyo mag EDSA. Unahin mo muna sa pamilya niyo tapos sa kumonidad mo o Barangay, tapos sa gobyernong lokal ninyo bago kayo mag EDSA para sa buong Pilipinas at baka paniwalaan ko na kayo.


In fairness kay erap he was a good president hindi lang niya napigilan mangurakot at magasugal but at least he has some conscience dahil sa mga babae,he had the project erap city for the squatters,infrastructure and planned officialization of Alibata/Baybayin remember,well di naman mali yung edsa 2 mali lang yung sitwasyon,iyan ang ang napapala nang padalos-dalos.
Sonofvisayas
"Pabagsakin ang gobyerno ni Arroyo"! im getting tired of that crap. Tell me, who would you like to replace GMA when shes gone?
Suzuka00
QUOTE(Sonofvisayas @ Oct 14 2007, 09:51 AM) [snapback]3266261[/snapback]
"Pabagsakin ang gobyerno ni Arroyo"! im getting tired of that crap. Tell me, who would you like to replace GMA when shes gone?

si ping or loren or maybe ibalik na lang natin si Cory
Sonofvisayas
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ Oct 14 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]3266389[/snapback]
si ping or loren or maybe ibalik na lang natin si Cory

And what makes you think that they wont do the same of even worst than GMA? I bet if the same thing happened or worst than what GMA is doing right now with those who've you mentioned to replace her, youd be here again with a new signature "Ping, Loren etc resign".
ToTiKaG
^well i think the vice-president will do a good job, so kill gma
Pogpog
QUOTE(Sonofvisayas @ Oct 14 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]3266400[/snapback]
And what makes you think that they wont do the same of even worst than GMA? I bet if the same thing happened or worst than what GMA is doing right now with those who've you mentioned to replace her, youd be here again with a new signature "Ping, Loren etc resign".


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martin_nuke
Just let Arroyo's term expire because toppling her government is just a waste of time and effort and this would just reset the Philippines economy back to 0. When her term expires we just pick another president but this time the Filipinos must vote a new president wisely.

If the Filipinos like Aga Mullach for president so be it.
Suzuka00
QUOTE(martin_nuke @ Oct 15 2007, 12:57 AM) [snapback]3267611[/snapback]
Just let Arroyo's term expire because toppling her government is just a waste of time and effort and this would just reset the Philippines economy back to 0. When her term expires we just pick another president but this time the Filipinos must vote a new president wisely.

If the Filipinos like Aga Mullach for president so be it.

thumbsdown.gif
Why not do the same for erap?

alam mo naman we need a real revolution not a fake one like in edsa 2,we need someone who is morally upright like Panlillo or Villanueva pwede rin si Villar since he has a heart.

mga tanga at ignorante kasi ang majority at nababayaran. kaya di successful ang elections.
Ek-ek
Akala ba ninyo kung uupo si Ping , Aga etc.... mawawala ang graft and corruption?
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