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exchosun
100% Korean. That's what I saw on the list of statistics for ethnic makeup in Korea.

although i doubt the makeup is pure Korean, i believe that the number of chinese, vietnamese, etc

are insignificant. but the main point is, korea is the most homogenous country in the world.


globalization will have an impact on the demography of korea, whether some people like it or not.

but it won't make much of a difference as long as korea's immigration rate stays flat, right?

in analogy to the concept, a flat immigration rate will allow koreans to "assimilate/digest" other ethnicities

preventing minorities from accumulating. the social pressure from the majority being ethnic korean

will inevitably pressure foreigners to change their ways. flat immigration rate will ultimately be

the retainer of korean nationality.


but yet, that still does not leave any promises for korea as its own entity in a world full of nation-states.

i have an article here describing the 3 possible transformations of nation-states in the future under the

trend of globalization: http://www.shaneland.co.uk/academic/ma/glo...ationessay1.pdf

which do you believe will happen in the distant future?


in contrast, i've read through an article about globalization's impact on korea. the author explains

that globalization is a boon for nationalism (contradicting the traditional view that globalization causes diversity

which causes tolerance/decrease of nationalism). even further, he takes the stance that globalization

was one of the foundations of nationalism itself in korea, aside from the stimulus of the japanese occupation.

http://iis-db.stanford.edu/pubs/20125/Shin.pdf ----> "The Paradox of Globalization"

i guess this may strengthen the pride of koreans overseas, but what kind of effect does it have on

koreans actually living in the R.O.K.?


overall, will nation-states disappear as diversity increases? if the demographic makeup is equal in all locations

across the world, then where would be the need for political boundaries? hence, why have nations floating around....

will korea ever become subject to this pressure? are traditional views changing.... and how will this affect pride

if we assume that the notion of korea as a unique entity will eventually disappear in the distant future?
piranha
I view "globalization" as increasing economic interdependency due to liberalization of international trades. But present day so called globalized world economy is still in an experimental stage that is yet to be proven. So far the largest beneficiary of the globalized economy is China. And it is of a concern for Korea/Japan and other smaller S.E. Asian economies as to what will the China do with her new found economic power. Globalized capitalist market sturcture requires the granularity of competing economies. Culture and languge binds a particular nation-state/union together, rather than the ethnicities, and globalization dilutes the particular culture and language. I see bigger economic unions formed by nations that share the similar culture and language once their economies are compatible in terms of per capita GNP. Still the greatest fear for Korea/Japan is being completely absolved by China which is around 7 times larger in population. There is possiblity that the Korea/Japan might join NATO and become part of EU. Or create an economic union that includes Mongolia and Eastern Russia.
bangaroo
Modern Korea does not distinguish other races that assimilated into Korean society, Korean do not force foreigners to accept assimilation like Japan & German did on WWII, or USA, Australia, Canada did to their natives or current PRC did to Tibetans.
retardsrox
QUOTE(exchosun @ Oct 5 2007, 06:08 PM) *
100% Korean. That's what I saw on the list of statistics for ethnic makeup in Korea.

although i doubt the makeup is pure Korean, i believe that the number of chinese, vietnamese, etc

are insignificant. but the main point is, korea is the most homogenous country in the world.
globalization will have an impact on the demography of korea, whether some people like it or not.

but it won't make much of a difference as long as korea's immigration rate stays flat, right?

in analogy to the concept, a flat immigration rate will allow koreans to "assimilate/digest" other ethnicities

preventing minorities from accumulating. the social pressure from the majority being ethnic korean

will inevitably pressure foreigners to change their ways. flat immigration rate will ultimately be

the retainer of korean nationality.
but yet, that still does not leave any promises for korea as its own entity in a world full of nation-states.

i have an article here describing the 3 possible transformations of nation-states in the future under the

trend of globalization: http://www.shaneland.co.uk/academic/ma/glo...ationessay1.pdf

which do you believe will happen in the distant future?
in contrast, i've read through an article about globalization's impact on korea. the author explains

that globalization is a boon for nationalism (contradicting the traditional view that globalization causes diversity

which causes tolerance/decrease of nationalism). even further, he takes the stance that globalization

was one of the foundations of nationalism itself in korea, aside from the stimulus of the japanese occupation.

http://iis-db.stanford.edu/pubs/20125/Shin.pdf ----> "The Paradox of Globalization"

i guess this may strengthen the pride of koreans overseas, but what kind of effect does it have on

koreans actually living in the R.O.K.?
overall, will nation-states disappear as diversity increases? if the demographic makeup is equal in all locations

across the world, then where would be the need for political boundaries? hence, why have nations floating around....

will korea ever become subject to this pressure? are traditional views changing.... and how will this affect pride

if we assume that the notion of korea as a unique entity will eventually disappear in the distant future?


propoganda.
exchosun
piranha, thanks for the insightful reply.

are you suggesting that korea will one day fuse into an overarching union?

would this be solely economical, or could it become something like the EU where they are

considering a common military, politics, etc? --> eventually might become 1 culture, possibly no boundaries
poiu900
Korea must remain homogenous
exchosun
actually, i dont think homogeneity matters anymore, due to strong nationalistic/cultural motivation.

the question is, will there be a "korea" or anyother nation-state in the future, for that matter.


but what i believe is that there should be a "unifying" discussion board that all koreans across the world can use to convene with each other.

i believe there isn't one already, or else i would have known about it by now? i'm sure this would help keep us all thinking on the same level
Sam Gyupsal
Please note how all of the people that scream about one Korea and keeping the bloodline pure are new accounts, meaning at some point they have been banned before. laugh.gif
Killa7
QUOTE(Sam Gyupsal @ Oct 8 2007, 06:44 PM) *
Please note how all of the people that scream about one Korea and keeping the bloodline pure are new accounts, meaning at some point they have been banned before. laugh.gif



They've been keep telling the truth about foreigners in Korea.
Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(Killa7 @ Oct 8 2007, 09:51 PM) *
They've been keep telling the truth about foreigners in Korea.


Same silly troll. Same grammar mistakes. Same path to being banned, again. laugh.gif

What sex are you this time? Transgender? embarassedlaugh.gif
Killa7
QUOTE(Sam Gyupsal @ Oct 8 2007, 10:00 PM) *
Same silly troll. Same grammar mistakes. Same path to being banned, again. laugh.gif

What sex are you this time? Transgender? embarassedlaugh.gif



What's the obsession about calling others "troll" just because you are mutt? Are you Korean?
Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(Killa7 @ Oct 9 2007, 01:12 AM) *
What's the obsession about calling others "troll" just because you are mutt? Are you Korean?


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You remember, don't you? I'm 1/4 Korean. However, since I contribute to Korean society by living here, paying taxes, helping educate it's future professionals, and teaching others that don't understand Korea (that would be you) about Korea, I'd say I'm more Korean than you. A real Korean would serve his country. embarassedlaugh.gif
Killa7
QUOTE(Sam Gyupsal @ Oct 9 2007, 12:37 AM) *
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You remember, don't you? I'm 1/4 Korean. However, since I contribute to Korean society by living here, paying taxes, helping educate it's future professionals, and teaching others that don't understand Korea (that would be you) about Korea, I'd say I'm more Korean than you. A real Korean would serve his country. embarassedlaugh.gif



That's the difference since I'm not living abroad on my own but with my parents. Ha, a foreigner claiming more Korean just because he/she is living there and is paying taxes. I don't know what important thing you are doing as you claim but wouldn't be responsible serve your own country first instead of trying to "kicking out Koreans from their own country" and claiming more Korean than they are? Pathetic.
Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(Killa7 @ Oct 9 2007, 07:47 AM) *
That's the difference since I'm not living abroad on my own but with my parents. Ha, a foreigner claiming more Korean just because he/she is living there and is paying taxes. I don't know what important thing you are doing as you claim but wouldn't be responsible serve your own country first instead of trying to "kicking out Koreans from their own country" and claiming more Korean than they are? Pathetic.



No, I think pathetic would be someone who claims to be an adult that is still living with their parents. laugh.gif Also, I think someone who tries to be a Super Korean should serve their country. When did I try to kick Koreans out of their own country? embarassedlaugh.gif

Another thing, I think you should watch your use of the word "foreigner." Since you don't live in Korea, that makes you a foreigner as well. embarassedlaugh.gif
Killa
QUOTE(Sam Gyupsal @ Oct 9 2007, 04:06 PM) *
No, I think pathetic would be someone who claims to be an adult that is still living with their parents. laugh.gif Also, I think someone who tries to be a Super Korean should serve their country. When did I try to kick Koreans out of their own country? embarassedlaugh.gif

Another thing, I think you should watch your use of the word "foreigner." Since you don't live in Korea, that makes you a foreigner as well. embarassedlaugh.gif



So are you claiming you are more Korean than Koreans just because you live in Korea? Since when you became Korean?
Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(Killa @ Oct 9 2007, 06:52 PM) *
So are you claiming you are more Korean than Koreans just because you live in Korea? Since when you became Korean?


laugh.gif
Do you need a reading lesson?

How do you contribute to Korea? Did you serve your country? embarassedlaugh.gif
Killa
QUOTE(Sam Gyupsal @ Oct 9 2007, 06:40 PM) *
laugh.gif
Do you need a reading lesson?

How do you contribute to Korea? Did you serve your country? embarassedlaugh.gif



I already explained the reason why I'm not on duty but then, would that prove me being less Korean and you more?
Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(Killa @ Oct 9 2007, 08:24 PM) *
I already explained the reason why I'm not on duty but then, would that prove me being less Korean and you more?



I don't remeber you ever answering that question. And, it's funny that you say you've already answered, but in the other thread you say that I have you confused with someone else! It's kinda confusing when you have so many socks and different IDs, isn't it? thumbsdown.gif

Also, you don't have to serve in the military to contribute to Korea... You can do other things like pay taxes, contribute to the Korean economy, volunteer in Korea, and other things. I bet you've done none of those.

I get it though. You think your ethnicity entitles you to all of the benefits of being Korean, but you don't think you need to contribute to Korea for those benefits. Yet, I contribute, but don't have the full ethnicity like you (If you even do. I remember there was a discussion once that you were an ethnic Korean living in China, but who knows.) Hell, I think many people would consider myself and, especially, Captain Corea to be much better Koreans than you. We help Korea and Koreans, while you just spread hate and give Korea a bad name. Shame on you.
Killa
QUOTE(Sam Gyupsal @ Oct 9 2007, 07:45 PM) *
I don't remeber you ever answering that question. And, it's funny that you say you've already answered, but in the other thread you say that I have you confused with someone else! It's kinda confusing when you have so many socks and different IDs, isn't it? thumbsdown.gif

Also, you don't have to serve in the military to contribute to Korea... You can do other things like pay taxes, contribute to the Korean economy, volunteer in Korea, and other things. I bet you've done none of those.

I get it though. You think your ethnicity entitles you to all of the benefits of being Korean, but you don't think you need to contribute to Korea for those benefits. Yet, I contribute, but don't have the full ethnicity like you (If you even do. I remember there was a discussion once that you were an ethnic Korean living in China, but who knows.) Hell, I think many people would consider myself and, especially, Captain Corea to be much better Koreans than you. We help Korea and Koreans, while you just spread hate and give Korea a bad name. Shame on you.



First of all, we don't need the approval of losers like you. And who said I was from china? What is expected from a person is that he/she be a good citizen from his country first before trying to serve another country and claim themselves Koreans disregarding how Koreans would think about it. Every time some Koreans would report about foreigners committing crimes in Korea who are the first to begin sht about us? Aren't you both you and kk?
Captain Corea
QUOTE(Killa @ Oct 9 2007, 07:55 PM) *
First of all, we don't need the approval of losers like you. And who said I was from china? What is expected from a person is that he/she be a good citizen from his country first before trying to serve another country and claim themselves Koreans disregarding how Koreans would think about it. Every time some Koreans would report about foreigners committing crimes in Korea who are the first to begin sht about us? Aren't you both you and kk?


wow, you're either high or mad... because this makes no sense.

I think Sam has a valid point... and possibly you state it here as well - to be a good citizen of a country, one has certain responsibilities.

So, what responsibilities to you take care of for Korea?


Personally, I've never served in he military, but.. I'm hoping to make that up by paying a massive amount of taxes. lmao

You?
TheHero
Homogenity doesn't exist. Even if it did exist it wouldn't be desireable. It causes inbreeding and a host of diseases which spring from that.

The Koreans are a mix of peoples (Manchu, Mongol) just like the British are (Celts, Romans, Anglo-Saxons).

There is no real threat to the current "look" of Koreans. There never will be either. It's all a bunch of paranoia. Generally, few people marry outside of thier race. If one or two choose to then so what???

Whites, Koreans, Japanese??? They won't have babies. It's a result of the modern lifestyle. They could do more to keep thier current "look" by having more babies rather than being racist.

Of course I don't think any racism is good. I'm simplying answering racists who justify thier hate by saying "Were preserving our own kind". Generally, you can't seperate racism from hate. Prove me wrong.
Dotori
QUOTE(TheHero @ Oct 16 2007, 09:01 AM) *
Homogenity doesn't exist. Even if it did exist it wouldn't be desireable. It causes inbreeding and a host of diseases which spring from that.

The Koreans are a mix of peoples (Manchu, Mongol) just like the British are (Celts, Romans, Anglo-Saxons).

There is no real threat to the current "look" of Koreans. There never will be either. It's all a bunch of paranoia. Generally, few people marry outside of thier race. If one or two choose to then so what???

Whites, Koreans, Japanese??? They won't have babies. It's a result of the modern lifestyle. They could do more to keep thier current "look" by having more babies rather than being racist.

Of course I don't think any racism is good. I'm simplying answering racists who justify thier hate by saying "Were preserving our own kind". Generally, you can't seperate racism from hate. Prove me wrong.


You sound like Korean hater, let me teach you something. Koreans are not mixed from Manchus & Mongols; rather they are mixed with Pro-Korean tribes.

Korean existed before the Mongolian & Manchus.
TheHero
QUOTE(Dotori @ Oct 16 2007, 06:48 PM) *
You sound like Korean hater, let me teach you something. Koreans are not mixed from Manchus & Mongols; rather they are mixed with Pro-Korean tribes.

Korean existed before the Mongolian & Manchus.



The idea that Greeks are descended from Olympian gods etc.. is ridiculous. People are people. They're is nothing holy about them. People move to a certain area mate with people and over a time a nation forms. If you say Koreans are so special then why can't other groups claim the same thing? It's a bunch of mythology.

It's pretty obvious that Northeastern Asian peoples are related to each other.

Mua
homogenity can suck my d!ck, as well as the thread starter.

did homogenity bring any benefits to korea? did it unify the korean ppl? (north korea *COUGH*)

korea 4 life, peace.
yuiop
it depends on what you're losing your "homogeneity" to. but yeah, korea is better off as it is now.
exchosun
Mua, you can go take your own jealousy somewhere else, maybe a forum for disgraces like you who have no sense of identity.

as for sucking d!ck find your own lowly kind to do that for you - - .,!,.
kitaisabaka
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Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(kitaisabaka @ Oct 22 2007, 04:54 PM) *
now foreigner worker.s crimes do increasing so huge,

this is sbs tv programm of unlawfulness workers crime (particullary chinese commit crime Violence & pakistani do commit sexual crime mainly
look this flash movie
http://dory.mncast.com/mncHMovie.swf?movie...6&skinNum=4
unlawfulness foreigner crime
http://dory.mncast.com/mncHMovie.swf?movie...4&skinNum=1
http://dory.mncast.com/mncHMovie.swf?movie...2&skinNum=1

now common korean know unlawfulnessworker is very very danger
becoz they commit crime so many


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exchosun
actually, korea's best improvements/era of development occured when the government propogated homogenity to the extreme

i don't see why korea "is better off now" that the GDP growth is less than 5%
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