TwistedLogic
Oct 15 2007, 08:49 PM
Sorry to kill the romance but it's all about the goddamn money these days.
Say you meet a girl at a bar. She seems perfect. She's attractive physically. You and her have lots to talk about. Then you talk about your respective careers and it turns out she fu-king makes twice as much as you. Jesus fu-k. That ruins everything.
Call me an old-fashioned bigot but I can't handle a girl making a lot more than me.
And if you date these sort of girls, not only will you feel the pressure from her to make more money, but you'll also feel the pressure from her family, your family and even from friends. Some people are just meant to not make a lot of money.
What a soul destroyer. $hit.
GentleWind
Oct 15 2007, 08:51 PM
as long as your comfortable with yourself why does it matter how much she makes
TwistedLogic
Oct 15 2007, 08:51 PM
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Oct 15 2007, 09:51 PM) [snapback]3269059[/snapback]
as long as your comfortable with yourself why does it matter how much she makes
oh it matters. it matters. it matters. you'd have to be Asian to undastand
GentleWind
Oct 15 2007, 08:53 PM
i am asian motherfu-ker i came here when i was 13
TwistedLogic
Oct 15 2007, 08:54 PM
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Oct 15 2007, 09:53 PM) [snapback]3269062[/snapback]
i am asian motherfu-ker i came here when i was 13
Then you know what I'm talking about.
Maybe short-term romance may work but it would never work out in the long run.
Career matters above all these days.
GentleWind
Oct 15 2007, 08:55 PM
no i do not know what you are talking about
you need to let that $hit go
TwistedLogic
Oct 15 2007, 08:55 PM
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Oct 15 2007, 09:55 PM) [snapback]3269067[/snapback]
no i do not know what you are talking about
you need to let that $hit go
I think you know what I'm talking about. Even if I let that $hit go, other people won't let it go.
GentleWind
Oct 15 2007, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(TwistedLogic @ Oct 15 2007, 08:55 PM) [snapback]3269072[/snapback]
I think you know what I'm talking about. Even if I let that $hit go, other people won't let it go.
I am sorry I do not know what you are you talking about.
Free your mind
mndeg
Oct 15 2007, 09:27 PM
fob
Takashi
Oct 16 2007, 12:02 PM
Doesn't matter in the slightest.
PB.
Oct 16 2007, 04:34 PM
funny response order
EweGene
Oct 17 2007, 11:03 AM
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ClearBlueWater
Oct 17 2007, 12:46 PM
QUOTE(Takashi @ Oct 16 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]3270110[/snapback]
Doesn't matter in the slightest.
Agreed. Sometimes it's nice being the bread winner.
But if you're still working general retail (like at the mall,) then yes, you're fu-ked
questionnaire
Oct 17 2007, 06:36 PM
Yeah it doesn't matter to me at all too. But an interesting study I remember reading a summary in psychology was that woman with more wealth tend to have tastes for and want real good looking men than those who were less rich. Hence, yes, sometimes you see beautiful women with average or ugly looking guys who are loaded with money.
Suijen
Oct 17 2007, 06:40 PM
It makes me uncomfortable. However, it really depends on what else she does.
Does she rub it in? "Honey, I make so much more than you do. God you fail to provide"
Does she compare me to other men? "There's this guy at my work who makes 3x more than you do. Plus, you have a small penis"
Does she take on other traditional aspects of the household? "Hey b!tch, go make me dinner."
Does she take on other aspects typhically relegated to the paternal/masculine figure? "Bend over. I'm going to make you feel beautiful"
felltohell
Oct 17 2007, 06:56 PM
money was never an issue in our relationship....
i found a job first... now we both have jobs but i earn more than he does..
he's working full time while i'm working part time....
i never nag about money even if he spends a lot more than i do...
it shouldn't really matter..
bobbycuzin
Oct 17 2007, 08:54 PM
there's many things that could offset her income...if you're better looking, better personality, more interesting, more universally talented (income only reflects talent in one aspect), etc
just say "i'm too down to earth to make that much money"
TwistedLogic
Oct 17 2007, 09:02 PM
QUOTE(bobbycuzin @ Oct 17 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]3272665[/snapback]
there's many things that could offset her income...if you're better looking, better personality, more interesting, more universally talented (income only reflects talent in one aspect), etc
just say "i'm too down to earth to make that much money"
I don't think those girls with successful careers who make a lot of money appreciate "down to earth" men. they're most likely looking for someone equal or even more ambitious and amazing than they are.
bobbycuzin
Oct 17 2007, 09:07 PM
you'd be surprised, there's many highly-cerebral women out there who lack very basic skills, but for many high-income jobs, that's all you need
and saying "i'm too down to earth to make that much money" is more of a semi-taunting joke statement towards their assumed lack of experience and opportunities for the other aspects of life, not meant to describe yourself really
TwistedLogic
Oct 17 2007, 09:18 PM
QUOTE(bobbycuzin @ Oct 17 2007, 10:07 PM) [snapback]3272699[/snapback]
you'd be surprised, there's many highly-cerebral women out there who lack very basic skills, but for many high-income jobs, that's all you need
and saying "i'm too down to earth to make that much money" is more of a semi-taunting joke statement towards their assumed lack of experience and opportunities for the other aspects of life, not meant to describe yourself really
id rather work a job that pays only average rather than marry a girl who made a lot of money and becoming a househusband.
bobbycuzin
Oct 17 2007, 09:24 PM
lol no one said anything about marriage or altering your own life in anyway...but not going for someone who makes more money than you is foolish, it's really not any different than if she was from a rich family, except she'd be gone more often being busy at work
TwistedLogic
Oct 17 2007, 09:33 PM
QUOTE(bobbycuzin @ Oct 17 2007, 10:24 PM) [snapback]3272743[/snapback]
lol no one said anything about marriage or altering your own life in anyway...but not going for someone who makes more money than you is foolish, it's really not any different than if she was from a rich family, except she'd be gone more often being busy at work
thats why ppl in rich families try to make sure their daughters marry the son of another rich family
just look at the families of those american politicians. they all are part of the same society and socialize with one another so that they can retain their power, wealth and influence.
bobbycuzin
Oct 17 2007, 10:24 PM
a very unique aspect about american society is that many rich families completely let their kids go, the parents have weak relations with their children...but for the families who impose rules, often they will want the kids to marry rich just to maintain their OWN status of old-money aristocracy
if she isn't even down with her own parents, why should you let them get in the way?
ham_let
Oct 17 2007, 10:28 PM
Are you joking? I want to marry a rich chick and leech off of her for the rest of my life.
mndeg
Oct 17 2007, 10:29 PM
why would a rich person want to marry a poor person or even a middle class person unless they didn't care for personality and just wanted some type of sex slave or trophy wife.
these different economic classes think differently, they act differently, they are pretty much nothing alike.


bill lee is taiwanese
QUOTE
STAFF WRITER
Sunday, Jul 22, 2007, Page 4
Tainan's Lee Chin-mu (李清木) is proud that his eldest son is now former US vice president Al Gore's son-in-law.
The Chinese-language China Times reported yesterday that Gore's youngest daughter Sarah Gore, 28, a medical student at UC San Francisco, married Los Angeles businessman Bill Lee (李威廉), 36, at the Beverly Hills Hotel on July 14.
Lee is the eldest son of Lee Chin-mu, who is a professor of anaesthesia. The elder Lee is from Tainan County. He moved to the US soon after graduating from the medical school of National Taiwan University.
Lee Chin-mu was very excited about the wedding, and he called his relatives in Taiwan to share his happiness with them on the wedding day, the paper reported.
According to Lee, his family invited almost 300 guests to the wedding banquet. The family also hired many security guards just to keep the paparazzi away.
Their wedding guests included former US president Bill Clinton and his wife, Senator Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump.
The paper quoted members of the Lee family as saying that they are very proud to become in-laws of the Gore family.
Former US vice president Gore is perhaps the world's most high-profile environmental activist.
This story has been viewed 145,493 times.
fob

QUOTE
When Sara met Bill
by Dan Bloom
When news reports in the U.S. recently reported that Al Gore's
daughter Sarah Gore had married Taiwanese-American businessman Bill
Lee in a California ceremony attended by both the Lee and Gore
families, the local media in Taiwan took the news as a happy omen. But
a racist comment appeared on an Internet chatroom in the U.S. just
after the wedding that read: "Al Gore's daughter is marrying a chinese?
Boy, that is one Inconvenient Truth."
For readers here who might not be familiar with the insult, the word
"chinese" is a derogatory word for people of Chinese or Taiwanese origin
in the U.S.
It is indeed sad that racism still flourishes in that democracy
overseas. It's also interesting to note that none of the news reports
about the marriage that originated in the U.S. mentioned that Lee's
family was originally from Taiwan. In a way, this shows the bright
side of America, and how multicultural the U.S. has become, so that
none of the wire services or gossip magazines felt a need to mention
the ethnicity of Bill Lee.
The 36-year-old Bill Lee (李威廉) is an American whose parents emigrated
from Taiwan, and his father, Lee Chin-mu (李清木), told reporters after
the wedding that he is happy to be related to the Gore family via his
son's marriage. Apparently, the couple met during a screening of
Gore's popular movie about global warming titled "An Inconvenient
Truth", according to a report in People magazine. In addition, Sarah
Gore, a 28-year-old medical student in San Francisco, has taken the
name of her husband as her last name, the magazine said.
Lee Chin-mu, who is a professor of
medicine in the U.S., hails from Tainan County and moved to the U.S.
soon after graduating from the medical school of National Taiwan
University, the media in Taiwan reported.
Sarah Gore first met her future husband at a function for her
father's Oscar-winning environmental documentary, "An Inconvenient
Truth", the magazine added, noting that the movie's executive producer
Jeff Skoll served as
best man at the wedding.
"As one person joked during the wedding toasts, global warming helped
bring Sarah and Bill together," a family friend told People.
What does this marriage of the Lee and Gore families mean for Taiwan?
It will probably lead to more news reports here about Al Gore's work
on global warming, and more invitations by environmental groups asking
Gore to give some lectures here and raise public awareness about
global warming in the future.
Other than that, the news was a normal "boy meets girl, girl marries
boy" story uniting two families in the U.S., with an small but
interesting sidebar about the connection to Taiwan.
====
Dan Bloom is a freelance writer in Taiwan.
Posted by: danny bee at July 22, 2007 12:
bobbycuzin
Oct 17 2007, 11:46 PM
QUOTE(mndeg @ Oct 17 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]3272839[/snapback]
why would a rich person want to marry a poor person or even a middle class person unless they didn't care for personality and just wanted some type of sex slave or trophy wife.
these different economic classes think differently, they act differently, they are pretty much nothing alike.
because it often happens when the rich person has weak family ties, they do whatever they want, sometimes just to rebel against their @$$hole parents...this situation is not at all rare, especially in new-money families
skylin
Nov 7 2007, 02:01 PM
awh. that shouldn't make a difference. you're with her because of <3. the subject of money should never seperate a couple
SkylineC83
Nov 7 2007, 10:15 PM
^ I disagree.
I think that money does come up as an issue to couples, but if it gets to extremes (like don't focus on it enough and spend it carelessly, or the other extreme, penny pinching to the max) then it becomes a problem.
But yes, money shouldn't be an issue as long as it's an issue that guess discussed moderately.
aznkevinlam
Nov 8 2007, 12:31 AM
Actually, I think that men would be lucky to have a gf who have a higher income than her man
AND is attractive.
riversouth
Nov 8 2007, 02:51 AM
yea i understand.
i used to feel inferior when girls make more $$ than guys.
but c'com where i live there is a competitive market, you are what you are.
right now i'm working only minimum wage 7.50/hour. very cheap paying....but on a good note, including tip, its about $12-$15 depending on good or bad day.
seriously, girls working at waiter or bartender, same age and everything and they make like $20+...i was like "WTH?"
i have to do so much, driving, hard work to earn only $7.50 an hour, but if you come to think about it...there is less job opportunity for female.
i mean female only work "light" jobs like bartender, office assistance.
and male have more option so everything balance out anyway.
o yea, if i have a gf working more twice as much and she feels i'm not worth for her, i dump her immediately! point blank! seriously no kiddin lol
Takashi
Nov 8 2007, 09:07 AM
QUOTE(riversouth @ Nov 8 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]3303536[/snapback]
i mean female only work "light" jobs like bartender, office assistance.
lol what?
Nice sexist statement there.
Najjiah
Nov 8 2007, 01:29 PM
QUOTE(TwistedLogic @ Oct 15 2007, 05:55 PM) [snapback]3269072[/snapback]
I think you know what I'm talking about. Even if I let that $hit go, other people won't let it go.
you need to stop being so insecure and base your entire life on what other people think bout you. since they dont pay for your rent, they have no say. pay attention to your own life and quit being so damn insecure. nobody cares about you. just go do your own thing.
snailpoo
Nov 10 2007, 08:11 AM
QUOTE(mndeg @ Oct 17 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]3272839[/snapback]
why would a rich person want to marry a poor person or even a middle class person unless they didn't care for personality and just wanted some type of sex slave or trophy wife.
these different economic classes think differently, they act differently, they are pretty much nothing alike.
Erm? So you're saying that opposites can't attract?
QUOTE(TwistedLogic @ Oct 17 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]3272689[/snapback]
I don't think those girls with successful careers who make a lot of money appreciate "down to earth" men. they're most likely looking for someone equal or even more ambitious and amazing than they are.
Twisted, WTF? From your posts, you obviously have little or no exerience in such matters, yet somehow you make these huge generalizations as if you knew what you were talking about. Grow a spine. And a pair.
hadez
Nov 10 2007, 08:33 AM
nvm, damn study is making me slow...
Dante
Nov 10 2007, 12:57 PM
Theres nothing wrong with a woman making more than a guy
AsiaNETIK
Nov 11 2007, 04:55 AM
Well I kind of support the guy on this issue if the girl was making a lot more money... In most cultures the male/husband is supposed to support his female as much as he can.. he's the one who makes the money and pays rent, bills, etc. Most cases most families especially on the girl side is that they want their daughters to date a rich boy lol. I would feel inferior to her making more money then I do, but the world is changing each day... women can become RN's, doctors, etc and what kind of male usually aims for that kind of career ?
In conclusion it would bother me that my girl would be making more money then I do since I should be the sole provider of the relationship, but then again if anything there's nothing I can do, but to try and find a better paying job/career then hers lmfao!
felltohell
Nov 11 2007, 04:57 AM
gawdTL..
why does it always have to be about money?
AsiaNETIK
Nov 11 2007, 05:15 AM
QUOTE(felltohell @ Nov 11 2007, 01:57 AM) [snapback]3307521[/snapback]
gawdTL..
why does it always have to be about money?
Well in most cases women always want
MORE. When they feel that their man/spouse is not providing them enough that's when things lead into trouble, arguments, etc. It can also lead to her finding someone who can provide her a lot more.
felltohell
Nov 11 2007, 05:17 AM
that's it!!!!!!!!
i'm staying single forever
AsiaNETIK
Nov 11 2007, 05:24 AM
QUOTE(felltohell @ Nov 11 2007, 02:17 AM) [snapback]3307526[/snapback]
that's it!!!!!!!!
i'm staying single forever
Is that how you feel ? What would you feel about do you feel that you would want more out of your man if he wasn't making enough and you were ? If you were to pay more since you make more money would you get into a conversation with him about the issue that you are providing much more then he has ? I really want to know how women feel if the man really isn't making that much money then his girl.
Women want more loving
Women want more caring
Women want more attention from her man
Women want more physical touching
Women want more money also lol
felltohell
Nov 11 2007, 05:30 AM
i stayed in a relationship for a year wherein i was the one who got a job and my man was jobless....
it worked until now...
he's found a job
TwistedLogic
Nov 11 2007, 11:49 AM
QUOTE(felltohell @ Nov 11 2007, 05:30 AM) [snapback]3307528[/snapback]
i stayed in a relationship for a year wherein i was the one who got a job and my man was jobless....
it worked until now...
he's found a job
it took him a full year to get a job? I can understand if he's a professional cause sometimes companies only hire at certain times of the year. But while he was searching for a job, he could have worked part-time doing retail or something. Anything is better than staying home all day while the girl goes off to work. I couldn't deal with that.
felltohell
Nov 11 2007, 08:59 PM
^ i don't know about him...lol
i just let him be..
i'm not the type who nags..
lol
but when it came to a point when he told me about him wanting so bad to have a job,
was supportive...
he's now at coca cola! lol
earning more than i do..
SkylineC83
Nov 22 2007, 12:59 AM
I had a coworker that was a girl working as an electrical engineer full time while her bf just stayed at home and bummed. Everyday at lunch, she'd have to run home to let her dogs out even tho her bf was home anyway. She's not working full time and going to school at nights. But I think the bf found a job at Staples.
TwistedLogic
Nov 22 2007, 01:01 AM
QUOTE(SkylineC83 @ Nov 22 2007, 12:59 AM) [snapback]3325344[/snapback]
I had a coworker that was a girl working as an electrical engineer full time while her bf just stayed at home and bummed. Everyday at lunch, she'd have to run home to let her dogs out even tho her bf was home anyway. She's not working full time and going to school at nights. But I think the bf found a job at Staples.
what a loser.
and here I am, working really hard and doing well at my company and no girl wants me. fu-k, life is so unfair.
corky
Nov 22 2007, 02:09 AM
QUOTE(TwistedLogic @ Oct 16 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]3269060[/snapback]
oh it matters. it matters. it matters. you'd have to be Asian to undastand

surely most asians see how truly full of $hit you are.

you are an idiot. thats why she makes more than you.
Takashi
Nov 22 2007, 03:10 AM
QUOTE(TwistedLogic @ Oct 16 2007, 01:51 AM) [snapback]3269060[/snapback]
oh it matters. it matters. it matters. you'd have to be Asian to undastand

No, you have to be a moron in order to agree with it
Disco Gestapo
Nov 22 2007, 05:24 AM
Ugh, these "I would feel emasculated, I need to be the man and assert my penis-ownership all over the place" guys are so fu-king annoying.

If you want some girl who makes no money and has no ambitions to make yourself look good, then go get her. There are tons of them out there. Women who give a $hit where their lives are going would be better off without you anyway.
P. Bredahl
Nov 22 2007, 07:20 AM
Alot of women earn more than their husbands... welcome to 2007
snailpoo
Nov 22 2007, 08:58 AM
QUOTE(TwistedLogic @ Oct 15 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]3269063[/snapback]
Then you know what I'm talking about.
Maybe short-term romance may work but it would never work out in the long run.
Career matters above all these days.
I like how the guy with the least knowledge and experience is trying to lecture as if he knew anything.
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