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rahul1000
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071021/ap_po/louisiana_governor
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BATON ROUGE, La. - U.S. Rep. Bobby Jindal won the Louisiana governor's race Saturday, becoming the nation's youngest governor and the first non-white to hold the state's post since Reconstruction.


Jindal, the 36-year-old son of Indian immigrants, carried more than half the vote against 11 opponents. With about 87 percent of the vote in, Jindal had 53 percent with 588,002 — more than enough to win outright and avoid a Nov. 17 runoff.

His nearest competitors: Democrat Walter Boasso with 196,104 votes or 18 percent; Independent John Georges had 156,962 votes or 14 percent; Democrat Foster Campbell with 141,346 or 13 percent. Eight candidates divided the rest.

"I'm asking all of our supporters to get behind our new governor," Georges said in a concession speech.

The Oxford-educated Jindal had lost the governor's race four years ago to Gov. Kathleen Blanco. He won the a congressional seat in conservative suburban New Orleans a year later but was widely believed to have his eye on the governor's mansion.

Blanco opted not to run for re-election after she was widely blamed for the state's slow response to hurricanes Katrina and Rita in 2005.

When he takes office in January, Jindal will become the nation's youngest governor in office.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — U.S. Bobby Jindal, the son of Indian immigrants, won the Louisiana governor's race Saturday, carrying more than half the vote against 11 opponents to become the state's first non-white governor since Reconstruction.
Tenjikuronin
Bobby (Piyush) Jindal is by far one of the most annoying Indian American politicians out there. He's a Dinesh D'Souza type clown.....
VAMAN
Bobby Jindal is the first Asian to become the governor of a U.S. state, Indians should be proud of his achievement. I was watching a news spotlight on Bobby Jindal the other day. Irrespective of their party affliations whether Democrat or Republican, Indians in Lousiana were supporting Jindal and were feeling proud of him.
jose cuervo
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Oct 20 2007, 10:32 PM) *
Bobby Jindal is the first Asian to become the governor of a U.S. state, Indians should be proud of his achievement. I was watching a news spotlight on Bobby Jindal the other day. Irrespective of their party affliations whether Democrat or Republican, Indians in Lousiana were supporting Jindal and were feeling proud of him.


Indians aren't Asian, and no he's not the 1st "Asian" to become governor, Gary Locke was the first.
VAMAN
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Oct 21 2007, 02:43 PM) *
Indians aren't Asian, and no he's not the 1st "Asian" to become governor, Gary Locke was the first.

Indians are Asians. If that Gary Locke was the first then Bobby Jindal is the second to become a governor. Talktohand.gif
jiggyiggy
Bobby Jindal isn't any sort of sellout, he's Bobby Jindal. Him winning the governors seat in Lousianna of all friggin places is weird, honestly it's so friggin subversive I can't help but laugh. He told those rednecks everything they wanted to hear, and they couldn't help but vote for him.
kkdkckrl
QUOTE(jiggyiggy @ Oct 21 2007, 09:02 AM) *
Bobby Jindal isn't any sort of sellout, he's Bobby Jindal. Him winning the governors seat in Lousianna of all friggin places is weird, honestly it's so friggin subservise I can't help but laugh. He told those rednecks everything they wanted to hear, and they couldn't help but vote for him.


I personally could care less he is indian. This guy is uber christian fundamentalist. My personal values are totally opposite of this guy. If i was in Louisiana, I wouldn't have voted for him. This guy became a governor in a total racist state, just imagine how much "christian" he had to be to overcome his "indianness" to get the redneck votes.

Besides, I would never vote just because he is indian.
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Oct 21 2007, 10:13 AM) *
Indians aren't Asian, and no he's not the 1st "Asian" to become governor, Gary Locke was the first.


Which continent is India on?
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Oct 21 2007, 06:13 AM) *
Indians aren't Asian


Then why do they have a section on this site?
jiggyiggy
Jindal is a good example for any of you people with any sort of mental dhimmitude in this country. Shake of your silly inferiority or persecution complexes, I know some of you have them, and abide by true Vedic principles and excercise self realization and will to power.
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Oct 21 2007, 02:13 AM) *
Indians aren't Asian, and no he's not the 1st "Asian" to become governor, Gary Locke was the first.

Indians are Asian, but you are correct about Gary Locke. He was the first Asian governor in the U.S. and the first Asian governor of Washington.

Gary was a nice guy, he had wide popularity that helped him win two terms. Piyush Jindal, on the other hand, has no such qualities.
VAMAN
QUOTE(kkdkckrl @ Oct 21 2007, 07:05 PM) *
I personally could care less he is indian. This guy is uber christian fundamentalist. My personal values are totally opposite of this guy. If i was in Louisiana, I wouldn't have voted for him. This guy became a governor in a total racist state, just imagine how much "christian" he had to be to overcome his "indianness" to get the redneck votes.

Besides, I would never vote just because he is indian.

So my father was right. He told me that Bobby Jindal is a roman catholic, but I told him how could he be a christian? Both his parents are of Indian origin.

Is it possible that he changed his religion to become successful in politics? If this is the case then I am not proud of him at all. thumbsdown.gif
ham_let
OMG I hate Asians who don't think Indians are Asians.

Geography class has failed you all. Talktohand.gif

LOL my brother said that his accent is out of this world. I'll go youtube him when I find myself without anything to do.

EDIT: Anyways, he's a pretty hardcore conservative, so fu-k that guy. hahaha.
Yuyutsu
Asia is a state of mind. The Japanese had an ancient word for it : Sangoku.

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In this Okakura was utilising the Japanese concept of sangoku, which existed in Japanese culture before the concept of Asia became popularised. Sangoku literally means the three counties Honshū (the largest island of Japan), To (China) and Tenjiku (India).
zodiacgrl89
tenjiku? like the temple? Anyway Asia is the white word for the continent just like we call them "western"
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Oct 21 2007, 01:09 PM) *
So my father was right. He told me that Bobby Jindal is a roman catholic, but I told him how could he be a christian? Both his parents are of Indian origin.

Is it possible that he changed his religion to become successful in politics? If this is the case then I am not proud of him at all. thumbsdown.gif


He converted to Catholicism when he was 15. Probably difficult growing up in Louisiana and became one of those self-haters desperate for approval from whites. I guess he got his wish.
Tenjikuronin
zodiacgrl89
Don't all politicians do this?
Buzava
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ Oct 21 2007, 05:05 PM) *
He converted to Catholicism when he was 15. Probably difficult growing up in Louisiana and became one of those self-haters desperate for approval from whites. I guess he got his wish.

He changed his name to Bobby because he wanted to be like the character Bobby Brady of the Brady Bunch. That's pretty pathetic. For that reason alone. he certainly wouldn't have gotten my vote, and I'm a Republican.
PB.
QUOTE(jiggyiggy @ Oct 21 2007, 09:58 AM) *
Jindal is a good example for any of you people with any sort of mental dhimmitude in this country. Shake of your silly inferiority or persecution complexes, I know some of you have them, and abide by true Vedic principles and excercise self realization and will to power.


exactly!
VAMAN
I read this thought provoking article in today's newspaper. I felt a bit guilty that I felt proud of Bobby Jindal. What he has to do anything with me or India, simply nothing.

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Here an Indian, there an Indian
28 Oct 2007, 0000 hrs IST,TNN

Ketan Tanna on the embarrassing way in which India likes to appropriate achievers.

We love to laugh at the nouveau riche and the silly way in which they flaunt their baubles: driving up in a flashy red sports car, wiping themselves with branded toilet paper, wearing ice-cubes on their chunky fingers, and most depressing of all, dropping names like so much dandruff. Sure they may have arrived but they can't stop jingling their moneybags and getting the world to take notice.

India, on the road to being a global power, seems to be suffering from this disease. The most tiresome symptom being the unthinking way in which we appropriate any achiever with even the most tenuous connection to the motherland as Indian. It makes us feel better, bigger, first-world and truly global. There is not so much as a prickle of shamefacedness at the fact that India has done little to further their careers or their talents. In the last couple of years, at regular intervals, the media has been choking with reports about "Indians” such as Bobby Jindal, Norah Jones, Sanjaya Malakar, Sunita Williams, etc who have all done the country proud in the USA or in space. Indian schoolchildren light diyas (lamps) or fast, villages and towns in remote corners of India distribute sweets, dance in joy, and the cameras chase the drivers, aunties, uncles and village postmen for sound bytes—all because the son or a daughter of a former resident who quit the country fifty years ago has achieved a modicum of success thousands of kilometers away.

But, at some point, reality bites. Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal's father, Amar Jindal, left Maler Kotla in Punjab for the United States almost 40 years ago and settled in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Bobby Jindal, 36, has never visited his ancestral home and has no plans to. Nora Jones who “grew up in Texas with a white mother” said after winning the Grammy that if anything, she felt more Texan than New Yorker (India did not figure). In fact, Geethali Norah Jones Shankar dropped the first and last extensions of her name when she turned 16. Sanjaya Malakar, the American Idol contestant whose father was an Indian, thanked his maternal Italian grandfather in his interviews. Sunita Williams was born in the USA to an Indian father (who became an American) and a mother of Slovenian heritage (the Slovenian press reproduced articles about how India was trying to appropriate their daughter of the soil).

Historian Ramachandra Guha says he is revolted by this “craven desire of Indians” to shine in reflected glory. “There is something lopsided and imbalanced in all of this,” he says. “It is nothing but pathetic insecurity and an inferiority complex. I blame the rudderless trans-national middle class for such hype.” In Delhi, Professor Mushirul Hassan, the vice-chancellor of Jamia Millia Islamia endorses Guha's view that this is nothing but the urge of a middle-class keen to join the rat race to prove itself. “It is a way of saying we have arrived. An expression of new-found confidence. And when there not enough persons in India, you look outside,” he says.

Equus’ CEO and advertising professional Suhel Seth calls it a “reverse globalisation”. “India is very territorial in its emotions. We want to capture territories overseas. For us Indians, the grass is not only greener but sweeter outside India. We have shifting sands of respect and shifting sands of recognition. We seek role models from outside India and appropriate them even when they are not comfortable. Take Amarnath Bose (of Bose Electronics). I don't think he wants to be called an Indian.”

There is certainly something surreal about the whole hysteria, agrees Sunil Khilnani, professor and director of South Asian Studies, Johns Hopkins University, and the author of the acclaimed The Idea of India. “This is not a healthy sign—our admiration and adulation for the overseas success of whomever we can claim (however tenuously) our ‘own’: it’s perhaps quaint, but also self-delusional,” he says. “We should perhaps think harder, focus more closely, on the many millions of those whom we condemn to failure, who really are our 'own' fellow, though far from equal, citizens.”

What really grates is that much greater achievement within the country goes unnoticed or is downplayed. But once the West gives its seal of approval, the drum roll just won't stop. “Indian scientists who were ignored in India suddenly get talked about if they get recognised abroad. Even Mother Teresa became Indian only after she got the Nobel. We are a land of hypocrites. R K Pachauri suddenly shot to fame only after he got the Nobel Peace Prize. Till then very few would even give him appointment. And now suddenly he has become an Indian scientist,” says Seth.

Prof Hassan adds that success is always seen as suspect: “We don't recognise the worth of person who has achieved something or done something worthwhile. We attribute it to tikdam (machinations). We don't think that it could be an intrinsic part of the person or hard work that has contributed to his/her success. When I go abroad, people talk about how Indian scholars, historians are making great advances. But here we don't talk about them. We are in awe of someone who has studied in Cambridge but the moment you say you have studied in India, the interest wanes. This is an inferiority complex.”

Guha blames the media for feeding this kind of false pride. “The media should not be so obsequious about the West,” he says. “A few years ago, a magazine said that they did not put Vishwanathan Anand on the cover because he came second in the world championship. Bismillah Khan's death and even M S Subbulakshmi’s death were covered sparsely. Sunita Williams got ten times that coverage in the media. If great artistes like Bismillah Khan or M S had died in France, there would be half-hour programmes every day for a week if not more. Look at the way they covered Pavarotti's death. And here in India we cover our national heroes’ death while reading out what the President of India has said about him or her. But Bobby Jindal wins the governorship of a small state in the US and he gets excessive coverage.”

Congress MP Milind Deora says that before celebrating the success of Indians abroad their Indianness needs to be verified. “Take the example of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Austria celebrates his success and that is genuine because he was born there and grew up in Austria before migrating to the USA,” says Deora. “We celebrate these achievements because we have a certain affinity for them. The affinity is not derived from citizenship or from accent. America is full of immigrants but one does not find Europe celebrating each and every success of an American who is of European descent.”

Another 'Indian’ who only has nasty things to say about India is V S Naipaul, who was born in Trinidad and lives in England. India counts Naipaul amongst its Nobel winners. Naipaul, who hates to be asked what he considers ‘home’—“I refuse to answer that question one more time,” he snapped at Crosswords in Mumbai—has this to say about the three countries he is associated with. “India is unwashed, Trinidad is unlearned and England is morally bankrupt.” The criticism is evenly handed out but perhaps we should reflect on what the ‘Indian’ achievers across the pond think of the country before we roll out the red carpet and smother them in it.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Here_an_Indian_there_an_Indian/articleshow/2495899.cms
ACMILAN1983
Interesting article Vaman, I think it raises some interesting points. I think that in some ways to recognise an Indian ethnic person's success abroad is acceptable in India to some degree. From my perspective, which would be similar to some of those recognised (born and raised abroad), it's difficult to gain acceptance in foreign countries, because people still view you as Indian, and really I felt really happy when I went back to India for the first time, because though I was from the west and naturally people wondered how "indian" I was, I was accepted and not made to feel like an outsider. I'm sure that even though they may not be from India or completely "Indian", the people mentioned in the article will be pleased that India has acknowledged and praised their achievements.

However, the article is correct that India shouldn't look for the "seal of approval" from the West, which does seem to be the case a lot of the time. A lot of the Indian youth generally seems fascinated with the west, which is fine, but that shouldn't lead to trying to adopt Western culture at the compromise of our own.

I don't think at this point it's bad enough to worry about and hopefully it never will be, but Indians (whether abroad or not) should be praised for what they achieve and we should look to work together, with Indians and non-Indians, towards the future.

I don't really get too involved in this feeling proud of Indians business though. I didn't know Bobby Jindal until I saw stuff about him here and never felt anything much about it as it's got little to do with what I've achieved. Same sort of thing with Lakshmi Mittal (the steel guy), I just didn't care when they said he was one of the world's richest men. Why should I take pride in the achievements of others?
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