Has anyone seen this movie about the ethnic Koreans in Russian Republics?

Here's the synopsis.

http://www.koryosaram.net/about_film.html

Looks like an interesting film. I did not know that there were that many Koreans in Kazakhstan.

I heard that they cannot speak korean?

Why are Asians always the victims?

Are they able to write in hangul or chinese ? Or they have already being assimilated?

i guess they're already being assimilated, like all the chinese around the world are being assimilated to the respective countries they reside in.

No they still keep their tradition and language, and Chinatown are all over the world.

Yes, but Chinese also being assimilated in other countries, just look at Korea & Japan, even USA.
Just because you have retain some tradition doesn't mean they are not part of locals.

Yes, thats true, but i was just pointing out that
"like all the chinese around the world are being assimilated to the respective countries they reside in".

is incorrect

Korean dispora in central Asian Republics dates back to the Stalin era. Koreans first settled in the Ussari region of Siberia in the 1860's, right after the Chinese Manchu Dynasty gave the region to Russia. Koreans worked hard, obeyed the laws, and assimilated well. Their successes made the Russian people envious who began to physically assult the Koreans. Nevertheless, Koreans were successful and grew to 200,000 strong. When Stalin came to power in the 1930's, he saw the Koreans as a threat. He accused the Koreans of being spies of the Japanese when many of them were actually fighting against Japan. Stalin took this opportunity to round up the entire Korean population and shipped them all out to central Asia. At that time, Stalin's policies had starved to death hundreds of thousands of central Asians. Stalin needed people to repopulate and rebuild and repair the disaster he created.

Koreans were packed like sardine cans, in freight trains without water or toilet facilities. The trip by train took about 40 days, and many died on their way. The dead bodies were thrown out of the cars when the trains stopped to rest. When the Koreans got there, the lands that they were supposed to farm, were desolate wilderness. They had to dig holes in the ground for shelter as many perished of hunger and cold in the first winter. Koreans settled all over central Asia, including Kazakhstan, Uezbekistan, Kirgystan, and other former Soviet Republics. Soon, they prospered to grow to be one of the richest Soviet minority people. They assimilated well, with many intermarrying with the local ethnic populations. Most second, third, fourth generation Koreans have lost their Korean language and use Russian.

But Koryo peoples' tribulations began again when the Soviet Empire collapsed in 1990. When all the Asian republics got their independence, all the countries instituted discriminatory policies toward non-native people. Koreans, who speak Russian, have limited opportunities due to the fact that they are not considered citizens of those countries. They can't go to Russia because they are not considered Russians either. Today they are stateless people with all the glory days when their prosperous farms were dotting the landscapes throughout central Asia, long behind them. Most of the Koreans if not all live in desperate poverty. More and more Koryo people are trying to go and resettle Siberia. More and more Koryo people are getting scattered all over central Asia and Russia, causing heart wrenching separations for many families. Their plight has been shown in South Korean TV documentaries on numerous times.

F-u-kin Russians criminals!

There is some truth in that. Mass conscription of Koreans in the Imperial Japanese Army began in 1944 (with voluntary recruitment occurring much earlier), just when the Soviet Union was contemplating on declaring the war against Japan in Northeast China and the Korean peninsula. Often times, ethnic Korean soldiers fighting for the Japanese Empire were serving on the front lines. It would come as no surprise to Stalin to regard Koreans as an obstacle towards Soviet interests in the region. After all, the Korean peninsula, along with Taiwan was regarded as "part of Japan."

they were soviets ignorant fu ck, stalin killed millions, he didn't care who they were. he killed over 30 million of people or so.

Yeah, we heard you, but the thing is he is still a criminal, and many Asians suffer from injustice every day.

I never said he was not criminal. My grandparents were fighting both soviets and nazies from 1939-1945. and many russians also suffered from their own government.

I had a really interesting conversation with a Russian gyopo who could speak English quite well, but not much Korean despite living here for four years. What I found most intersting is that when she referred to 'us', 'our', 'my country', etc., she meant Russia, not Korea, and actually seemed to be quite a proud Russian.

Re: Kazakhstan, there are an awful lot of Kazakhstanis in Korea, too.

North American Koreans are mostly second generations. The Soviet Koreans are well into their fourth. By looking at the Soviet Koreans, you're looking at what North American Koreans may look like in three decades.



About 150,000, the last time I checked. But many are leaving for Russia and Siberia.

I haven't met many Russian-Koreans (it's interesting how we say 'Russian-Korean' but 'Korean-American'), but her attitude seemed so different from gyopos from English-speaking countries. Her attitude was like oh, so you like living in Korea? Your job sounds so interesting. Me, I'm kind of sick of the place myself. It's been good to save money but I want to go home and do a law degree now.

Her attitude seemed quite similar to what mine might be if I went to live in one of the many European countries in which my ancestors may have lived. With Korean-Americans, however, it seems that Korea *is* there identity whether they have any strong connections to it or not.

this movie was actually screened by the KSA in my university

yeah, Russia culturally seem closer to Korea than any western country.

im just pointing out that minority groups get assimilated like that, no matter who they are.

koreans get assimilated, chinese get assimilated.

u pointed out that there's chinatowns... well guess what... theres just about any "foreign"towns.

somehow u think that china is the divine one and that chiense are the only ones that won't get assimlated ever.

think again.

To establish Chinatown, local Chinese community need to get approval from local government. Therefore Chinatown is actually owned by locals not just for Chinese locals.

Ask quick question, is there any China town in North Korea?

look, that isn't my point here. neither is china-bashing.

im just saying that its not a big surprise that koreans are being assimilated into the respective countries they reside in.

it happens to any culture.

that's it.

What about Turkish? Isn't Korean Turkish? Now you are saying Koreans are actually Russians?

Posting without thinking only makes you looking stupid, he didn't even say Koreans are Russian, dumbo!
Other thing, Koreans never did say Korean came from Turkey! Get your facts straight before posting.

May be you are non english speaker and short on understanding English.

Russian aristocrats had looked to the West for ideals and fashions since the early 18th Century. They traveled extensively in Western Europe and adopted French as the language of polite discourse.

So now the truth is that Russians looked into Korea for cultural guidance? Well, they had to be able to find Korea in the map first.

Did somebody in this forum said that Koreans have the highest level of education in the world? LOL

We need to get some Russian experts here, please.

Gee, you are indeed very stupid or twisted arn't you?
Why you bring this Russian stuffs to this thread, again you are trying to piss Korean with pointless accusation.

Would you be happy if I mention Russian look China for cultural guidance, get real!

Relax dude, he's only low life, no need to fuss about it.

yeah, its better to just squash a cockroach.

Said the Kimchi sh!t

i can't imagine william hung saying that.

Stalin didn't trust many people including a lot of his Russian generals, the Russian civilians, the Jewish, the Mongols, the Chinese, etc. He was kind to the North Koreans though.