Let them apply for drivers licenses, let them take the test in spanish as well, all the normal fees plus a $20 non-legal residenl fee will apply. Let the program run for about a year, collect their addresses and crap. THEN BOOM, you have a month long raid period where you knab all these suckers. I'm willing to bet you can net about 4-5 million of these ppl if you do this. The $20 fee will mainly be for offsetting the cost of catching, processing, and deporting them. Man this would be major ownage.

sounds like a plan...50/50??

more like 40/60. You can't catch all of these suckers or even most of them, but you can send a message.

America had the chance last year when they were out protesting by the millions, and we let the great opportunity slip by.

Another plan is to make lazy and fat American who are homeless, unemployed, and live on wellfare check to take over the works that available for illegal immigrants.

One of the problem is lack of man power and resources to hold that amount of people.
The other is that theres a good chance alot of them were just illegal immigrant supporters but not necessarily illegals immigrants.

Dude, you have to admit though, my plan is ingenious.

You should work for the Department of Homeland Security. But you know the bleeding hearts will cry racism when we start deporting illegals.

The test would actually be available in multiple languages, as there are a number of people here illegally from Europe and Asia as well. You do something like this once, and people overseas will get the message when these folk return and tell them all the horror stories.

This is the reason why they come. Cut off healthcare, cut off education, cut off jobs and penalize the employers and the illegal immigration problem would be solved. And then we should encourage the 20-25 million illegals to either go back home or emigrate to Canada. Hey Canada is a 1st world progressive liberal state with free healthcare, that's what all illegals want.


The population of 30 million Canadians will be overwhelm in a few years.
Hey we should use Mexico's tactics.

Great thing about my plan is that there would be a standing ovation from the libs when this first gets underway, I'd give them high fives just for kicks. Then we should get a bunch of them all in a room together so we can capture their expressions when we finally bust out the hammer. I get giddy just thinking about it. This $hit it too good to ever be implented.

Sounds a bit big brotherish don't you think? What's next? Why don't we go back and dig up all the illegal immigrants from the past and send their ancestors back? Then all that would be left would be the Native Americans.

So, what's wrong with illegal immigrants?

Is it

a) They're a drain on public goods

b) They steal jobs

c) Don't pay tax

?

If

a) Then just make vital services off-limits to undocumented people. Duh. While you're at it, kick out all the poor people too. They're a drain also.

b) Legalize them so they have to earn minimum wage.

c) Legalize them so they have to pay tax.

It's sorta Machiavellian, if anything.

It's the slippery slope effect. If you are going to legalize all the undocumented ppl in this country already, then why stop illegal immigration at all? What's the point of having immigration laws? America cannot accomadate everyone, it's sad but true.

I'm for slowing the flow of immigration, but not for deporting current immigrants (unless there's that many).

Most of the so-called problems with immigration have to do with assimilation. Basically, how quickly can this group assimilate into the US before a new wave of immigration occurs? Within a few generations this current group of immigrants will probably assimilate into the US also, and they'll start getting degrees and they'll start paying taxes and start moaning about immigration also.

Unless action is taken this is something that's never going to slow down. Mexico is never going to have an egalitarian society(hell they don't even strive for one), and it's birthrates are higher than the US. A wall needs to be built, and a message needs to be sent. Indecicveness only encourages the problem.

There's a great wall of China, there should be a great wall of America, better yet they should also create a demilitarized zone between the 2 countries like the 2 Koreas. The wall would have high tech gadgets and cameras and throw in an electric fence separating the wall and Mexican border along with a DMZ.
We can spend billions every year for some controversial war, what's a few billions in creating a wall?

It's estimated that 90% of illegals are from south of the border. What do you get? Wasted tax dollars in the billions, dilapidated
neighborhoods, gangs, ethnic tension, crappy schools, etc. I do understand that it takes time for immigrant groups to adjust. all of this would have been rectified with time and integration/assimilation, but here's the problem, since you keep on getting an influx of crappy immigrants from the south of the border where more than half don't even have an HS education, this problem will never go away. It's like you have a permanent underclass.

And besides what makes people think that these illegals are more deserving than let's say the Sudanese who are getting slaughtered at this moment? What about the Burmese and the political turmoil that's going in Burma now? What about the Iraqis who wants an stabilized environment to live in? Mexico might be poor but at least their people are not getting slaughtered left and right. Other groups of people also wants to come to America, but guess what they probably can't with the 2-3 million border hopping into the US every year and taking up space.

Asylum seekers and refugees get their own little quotas. They're not with the rest of immigration.



This trend of immigration always happens because the US goes to some God knows where place and starts mucking around in it anyways. Mexican labor didn't start popping up until after the Bracero project.

Illegal immigrant supporters should be shipped back with the rest of them!