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Now I'm pretty sure that JohnnyWalker's the Chinese troll who's been getting constantly banned for insulting Koreans and I know that talking about Korean traditional clothes is irrelevant here, but I'll just make one last reply just so that this troll's attempt of misinformation won't mislead others.
huh?
Hello? this is Chinese chat. This topic is about Chinese attires. You came in here spewing your misinformation and I become a troll? You logic?

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Reliable sources, both Korean and Western, point to the archaeologically attested fact that Korean traditional clothes remain relatively unchanged for the last couple thousands of years, a tradition that precedes both Ming and Tang dynasties by centuries.
what reliable sources? don't just throw empty words. Show us primary sorurces.
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And Koryo, in fact, did have significant cultural influence over the Mongol Yuan Dynasty court in the later years, and the early Ming Dynasty court painting that JohnnyWalker posted wreaks of both Mongol and Koryo influence.
Nonsense. Not only you have no idea how Chinese attire system evolved, nor do you have a very clear idea how your own attires evloved.
Again...The painting I shown was not from early Ming dyansty. It's from
mid Ming dyansty with then name "明憲宗元宵行樂圖" It's a fairly famous painting of Mid-Ming dynasty. Please don't distort information. It's very easy to verify the info. Please do so.
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but it's pathetic that some people would deliberately distort and misrepresent their very own cultural legacy to associate themselves to whom they feel inferior, hence the need to associate. If anyone feels doubtful, just do an independent search on Hanfu and see what they generally look like throughout history, and look at what it looked like during Ming Dynasty, instead of relying on the bigotries of a troll who constantly gets banned for making relentless insults, full of lies and deciet, on Korea.
I did not even mention the word "korea" in my first post of this thread. It's YOU who came in here and began to spew your craps about korean this and that. Oh... we don't have to associate with your culture legacy because Choaxian dynasty was a full copycat version of Ming dynasty. Are you going to distort such clear fact? Ming dynasty was not too far back in time, you know? There are so many Ming textile artifacts available in China. Maybe you should pay a visit to Chinese textile Musem to see some actual artifacts, not some reconstructed craps.
And who is distorting info? you deliberately posted some pics of pre-Tang dynasty to distort how Ming attire was like. That's not your fishy attempt to distort info? Give me a break. Just show us some ancient texual info about how your country's attire evolved in continuity. Show us some ancient paintings of your country. show us some actual artifacts. Show us how your country's attire system influenced China. Not just empty words, theories, and reconstructed craps.

If factual and primary evidences I've presented constitute lies or insults to you, so be it.