The last Chinese rule was around the 1400;'s, the last French rule was in the early 1900;'s and the U.S.A is the most recent occupiers trying to rule the land thru being a silent occupier of S.Vietnam but failed.

How about you negative Chinese bashers talk about how the French and U.S.A treated you guys, after all its more recent Or are many of you stuck in the 1400's?

But many over-seas Cong-Hoa's don't know the truth. And why ignore the most recent agressors like the French and U.S.A?
Get over it, Chinese rule ended 500 years ago, and the French rule ended over 60 years ago or how about Japan 50 years ago.

I understand that the S.Vietnam had a rich culture, but don't blame China or U.S.S.R. The U.S.A failed to help achieve total freedom and protect agains the Viet-Minh and her allies.

China has left Vietnam alone for so long. What gives?
Do we have new generations of Vietnamese who fear the French & U.S.A? that is why the Chinese is easy target to bash?

Firstly, you better change the title of this thread.
Secondly, China blocked truckloads of Vietnamese goods just a few months ago at the border when Vietnamese media reported problems about Chinese made goods like toys, food, etc.

You tell 'em papa!


Or is it bear?

If you like Communism, and Ho Chi Minh that much, you should know he said:

“Better to eat the French dung for 100 years than the Chinese dung for 1,000.”

I don't know, and could be careless about nationalistic movements, but to understand the "typical" Vietnamese mentality, it's better to actually understand their REAL mentality than to understand the superficially Western concept of communism.

Man, we get over things more quickly than you can say it. Survey after survey show we are the most optimistic and forward looking people in Asia.

BUT

When you see the boundaries that China draws on its map, you'd think Borneo has a border crossing with China, that's just blatantly provocative.

why don't you tell your own countrymen to get over nanjing? respect prime minsiter's visits to yasukuni; he should be able to do whatever he wants in his own country without 1.3 billion grudge-holders butting in.

It was China and U.S.S.R who helped achieve full Vietnam reunification. And the U.S.A failed to help S.Vietnam, achieve full freedom but instead helped assasinate the former S.Vietnam President Diem.

That sentence is all that needs to be said on this reptitive argument topic.

If some Vietnamese don't accept that true historcial past, so be it.

I'm not gonna sit here and bash both sides of the innocent people, like some Vietnamese do to Chinese and vice versa...because i enjoy crossing the border from GuangXi, China to North Vietnam and back if i;m on a trip back there.

But i thinks American/Vietnamese primarily who have roots from the S.Vietnam territories, are way different than their northern counterparts.

Heil the Viet-Minh and Viet-Cong & heil North Vietnam.

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I don't get it. If Beijing is doing it then Vietnam should stop all those Chinese goods coming in to Vietnam. I mean China has a trade surplus with us, so stopping trade will defintely hurt them more than us.

Vietnam has about 80 million people, big enough of a market for our people to trade within. Why we cannot stop all trade with China and have 0 Chinese goods that are dumped (except for smuggled goods) which will increase Vietnamese businesses?

Yes US also has Chinese goods but US needs China to make cheap things for them, Vietnam already has its own cheap labour force.

Chinese goods dumped into Vietnam only hurts Vietnamese businesses, I don't see why we just stop all Chinese goods which would increase our marketshare in Vietnam.

Is Vietnam scared of losing the Chinese market? I don't think Chinese buy much stuff from us as shown by trade data, so why doesn't Vietnam accept China's threat and let them stop all our goods and we can stop them trading with us.

In the end a trade war with China will benefit Vietnam more. Not to mention those Chinese-Vietnamese make a living in Vietnam by trading with China, so stopping all trade with China will probably lead to them finding a new place to live too.

Buisness is the way to be conducted these days, but i see the point on some hardcore Vietnamese primarily who have Southern roots.
To keep hate on the Chinese and rather still hold open arms to the French and U.S.A is most dis-respectful.

If supernovasp who was pro-S.Vietnam and the 3 red stripes and yellow flag say is true about 1 of the many Uncle Ho quotes.

Than i say that's fine, Uncle Ho played on both sides of the fence? than that may raise an argument that Uncle Ho wanted what was best for the whole of Vietnam no matter what the cause. Unfortunately with the rise of Vietnam today all because of Uncle Ho's beliefs and long vision. It's the over seas, who still believe in the 3 red stripe/yellow flag who hold most anger towards the Chinese and deny the revolutionary leader.

I'd rather have Vietnam the way it is now, than Foreign dominance be it French of U.S.A on China;'s backyard.

Bulldogg,

If you hadn't mentioned America I wouldn't be posting here.

Imo, the Vietnamese know that America poses no future threat to them. America has no claim on the Paracel or Spratly Islands. I think the Vietnamese are suspicious of China for the same reason the Poles are suspicious of Russia.

the american, french, mongolian, and japanese aggressors come and go... but china will always be here.

Yeah, you tell him, piclook!

Perhaps that accounts for Vietnamese suspicion. Is that what you meant?