AEROFORCE1
Jan 3 2008, 11:10 PM
As I ask if yes so you guys know these number
๑ ๒ ๓ ๔ ๕ ๖ ๗ ๘ ๙
And in Cambodia people use the Budhist year? like 2551
transtic
Jan 3 2008, 11:14 PM
it's pretty much the same man....



lawl, Khmer numericals are more similar to Thai and Thai is to Lao.
Goombaking209
Jan 3 2008, 11:26 PM
yeah we use 2251 too.
trickystyle
Jan 3 2008, 11:43 PM
wow thais really know nothing about khmer culture.
and of course we use the buddhist calender. khmer people practice the same buddhism, theravada.
all of my thai friends are always surprised when they see our numbers.
transtic
Jan 3 2008, 11:46 PM
Days of the week and months of the year are also very similar...
Months (without the suffixes)
Makara - Makara
Kumpha - Kompheak
Meena - Minea
Mesa - Mesa
Preutsapha - Ousophea
Mituna - Mitona
Karakada - Kakada
Singha - Seiha
Kanya - Kanha
Tula - Tola
Preutsachika - Vichika
Tunwa - Thnu
Something like that yea? lol
Days of the week are like....
Chan - Chan
Angkear - Angkhan
Put - Pot
Prahas - Puruhatsabodee
Sok - Sok
Sao - Sao
Atit - Athit
I love the way thursday is spelled, in both languages.. HAW HAW HAW
AEROFORCE1
Jan 4 2008, 02:55 AM
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it's pretty much the same man....



lawl, Khmer numericals are more similar to Thai and Thai is to Lao.
Thanks alots ,this is interesting.
Its even closer than the Laos one though. Ha Ha u guys right I dont know much about Khmer culture
Goombaking209
Jan 4 2008, 04:13 AM
I am kinda shocked at how Thais are so oblivious to Khmer. We're only neighbors. But then again, I know almost next to nothing about Laos or Lao culture.
transtic
Jan 4 2008, 08:14 AM
Lao and Lanna?
Scheme
Jan 4 2008, 08:55 AM
All come from Indian...
Point_Dexter
Jan 4 2008, 05:57 PM
Why Lao numbers different?
transtic
Jan 4 2008, 09:22 PM
I'm pretty sure Lao numerals were more influenced by the Lanna Script.
XigonCongchua
Jan 4 2008, 09:39 PM
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it must be a pain to write them
transtic
Jan 4 2008, 09:47 PM
Its actually quite easy mon frère. I mean, if you grew up writing that way its really not that hard. I learned to read and write the language myself and it's as easy as pie. Some people who look at Vietnamese writing would think its a pain with all the tone and diatrical marks...
XigonCongchua
Jan 4 2008, 10:02 PM
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Its actually quite easy mon frère. I mean, if you grew up writing that way its really not that hard. I learned to read and write the language myself and it's as easy as pie. Some people who look at Vietnamese writing would think its a pain with all the tone and diatrical marks...
how do you put your writing in the key board though?
transtic
Jan 4 2008, 10:34 PM
^ Need to download a program off the net, and then you can type using the normal keyboard. =) We used to do that on here quite a lot.
lemongrass
Jan 5 2008, 12:39 AM
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Thanks alots ,this is interesting.
Its even closer than the Laos one though. Ha Ha u guys right I dont know much about Khmer culture
As I quite often have always stated that we are brothers and sisters who live under different countries. We are all children of the Khmer Empire; Cambodia, Thailand and Laos. We all should get along and not fight.
XigonCongchua
Jan 5 2008, 01:37 AM
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^ Need to download a program off the net, and then you can type using the normal keyboard. =) We used to do that on here quite a lot.
i know but how do you turn each letter into a cambodian character?
Goombaking209
Jan 5 2008, 01:39 AM
^ memorization through practice and reciting. I too had to teach myself Khmer

and Now I'm teaching other Khmer's how to teach themselves to read/write Khmer through the internet.
mushrooms
Jan 6 2008, 06:26 PM
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 4 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]3403485[/snapback]
i know but how do you turn each letter into a cambodian character?
You'd need a keyboard driver that will input Khmer Unicode characters. It's not included in XP like Vietnamese or Thai, so you will have to find it online. And to see what you're typing, you will need a Unicode font that includes Khmer Unicode characters. The keyboard driver is what enables to you to input Khmer characters, it will remap the Latin keys on your keyboard to Khmer keys, so to speak.
Up until a few years ago, there was no such thing, and everyone used Latin fonts that had Khmer character images, but the character mapping was still Latin.
Savan
Jan 7 2008, 12:05 AM
QUOTE(transtic @ Jan 3 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]3401301[/snapback]
Khmer numericals are more similar to Thai and Thai is to Lao.
The Siamese were/are related to the Khmers. Lao people are not related to the Siamese. So of course, Thai is more similar to Khmer, than Lao is to Khmer.
transtic
Jan 7 2008, 01:10 AM
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The Siamese were/are related to the Khmers. Lao people are not related to the Siamese. So of course, Thai is more similar to Khmer, than Lao is to Khmer.
So?
Vietnamese people are arguably more related to the Chinese but their numerals are more like the French language.
We're talking numbers here mon petit frere
Savan
Jan 7 2008, 01:25 AM
QUOTE(transtic @ Jan 6 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]3408101[/snapback]
So?
Vietnamese people are arguably more related to the Chinese but their numerals are more like the French language.
We're talking numbers here mon petit frere
Let me put this another way. The Siamese were the Khmers who eventually adopted Tai-speaking language, while still retaining some of their Khmer culture and script. Thus, the Siamese (present day Thais) have numbers similar to the Khmers. Anyway, this is just my opinion.
transtic
Jan 7 2008, 01:47 AM
^ though you gotta admit the Lao script has some features more similar to Khmer script than Thai as well.
AEROFORCE1
Jan 7 2008, 02:18 AM
The Khmer Script is used since Ayudhaya period ,but it dont mean that Siamese are the Khmer from Angkor.
The missing part of the Thai history was the part of before Ayudhaya kingdom; who living in Central Thailand. And only Ayudhayan ruler class is the TAI?
Before Ayudhaya kingdom distributed ,down here we got the Dvaravati the Ancient mon kingdom. But still the doubt that is the Mon people is related to Khmer people?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvaravati
Savan
Jan 7 2008, 02:54 AM
QUOTE(transtic @ Jan 6 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]3408145[/snapback]
^ though you gotta admit the Lao script has some features more similar to Khmer script than Thai as well.
Well, I'm not surprised because Khmer culture has also influenced Lao culture.
Now back to the main topic, it does appear that Thai numbers are written the same as Khmer numbers.
Goombaking209
Jan 7 2008, 07:25 AM
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^ though you gotta admit the Lao script has some features more similar to Khmer script than Thai as well.
I think it looks Lao numerals were influenced by both Khmer and Burmese numerals. In fact, it looks like a hybrid of the two.
AEROFORCE1
Jan 7 2008, 07:56 AM
What I can say about the used of number in the past is for the astronomy and horoscope. We get that from u guys though.
I not sure of the calculation is used in the ancient architecht of both Thai and Khmae or not.
erla
Jan 8 2008, 03:06 AM
Well as legend goes, Por khun Ramkhamhaeng modified the khmer and mon script to into what is the Thai script today. So if Thai is similar to khmer script, I'm not surprise at all since we got our alphabets from you guys.
ck45
Jan 9 2008, 03:45 PM
QUOTE(Scheme @ Jan 4 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]3401925[/snapback]
All come from Indian...
not all from india..
chakra1
Jan 9 2008, 04:21 PM
QUOTE(erla @ Jan 8 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]3410832[/snapback]
Well as legend goes, Por khun Ramkhamhaeng modified the khmer and mon script to into what is the Thai script today. So if Thai is similar to khmer script, I'm not surprise at all since we got our alphabets from you guys.
why king pic on money ? people alway keep money in back pocket and sit on .
thewiseguy
Jan 9 2008, 05:58 PM
QUOTE(erla @ Jan 8 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]3410832[/snapback]
Well as legend goes, Por khun Ramkhamhaeng modified the khmer and mon script to into what is the Thai script today. So if Thai is similar to khmer script, I'm not surprise at all since we got our alphabets from you guys.
Its good that u acknowledge that
Buddhalove
Jan 9 2008, 07:14 PM
she's in the learning process. just got out from high school..
DJTherkTrei
Jan 10 2008, 05:28 PM
So I've been sitting on George Washington and Abe Lincoln's faces!!!
Never thought of it as disrespect.
Goombaking209
Jan 10 2008, 05:31 PM
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So I've been sitting on George Washington and Abe Lincoln's faces!!!
Never thought of it as disrespect.

Also the words "In God we trust" on the dollar too.
DJTherkTrei
Jan 10 2008, 05:34 PM
Damn, I'm gonna go to hell now. =P
Goombaking209
Jan 10 2008, 06:11 PM
Se ya there! ^
erla
Jan 11 2008, 12:00 AM
QUOTE(ck45 @ Jan 10 2008, 04:45 AM) [snapback]3414355[/snapback]
not all from india..
In the end, almost all Southeast Asia Nations are influnced by India.
QUOTE(thewiseguy @ Jan 10 2008, 06:58 AM) [snapback]3414593[/snapback]
Its good that u acknowledge that
I acknowledge what is true, not some stupid facts that you claim to be true.
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Jan 10 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]3414725[/snapback]
she's in the learning process. just got out from high school..
And you never attended one yourself.
transtic
Jan 11 2008, 01:02 AM
I love erla, she's so sweet and smart and pretty.
Buddhalove
Jan 11 2008, 11:48 AM
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In the end, almost all Southeast Asia Nations are influnced by India.
I acknowledge what is true, not some stupid facts that you claim to be true.
And you never attended one yourself.
i can reword without a problem. She finally figure it out that the world is not evolving around Siam.
Buddhalove
Jan 11 2008, 11:49 AM
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I love erla, she's so sweet and smart and pretty.
look can be deceiving , have you ever heard of poison ivy.
DJTherkTrei
Jan 11 2008, 03:30 PM
I think he was being sarcastic.
Goombaking209
Jan 11 2008, 03:39 PM
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i can reword without a problem. She finally figure it out that the world is not evolving around Siam.

Thanks to AF?
lemongrass
Jan 11 2008, 05:09 PM
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Thanks alots ,this is interesting.
Its even closer than the Laos one though. Ha Ha u guys right I dont know much about Khmer culture
Aero,
Don't feel alone because you are not the only Thai person who are clueless about Khmer peoples and culture. Thai people walk and talk with Khmer people and moved through Khmer culture everyday and don't even know it. And no, they are not from Cambodia, they are the native of that land, like myself.
Manleow
Jan 12 2008, 02:12 PM
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I'm pretty sure Lao numerals were more influenced by the Lanna Script.
This just proved everything that i have pointed out many many times before.
Khmer is closer to Thai, then Thai to Lao, then Lao to Lanna
Lanna and Lao language are the same
Thai is Lao and Lanna culture/language mixed with Khmer
Manleow
Jan 12 2008, 02:20 PM
QUOTE(erla @ Jan 8 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]3410832[/snapback]
Well as legend goes, Por khun Ramkhamhaeng modified the khmer and mon script to into what is the Thai script today. So if Thai is similar to khmer script, I'm not surprise at all since we got our alphabets from you guys.
This is revised History again.
Por Khun RamKhamhaeng is a Lao King, who modified the khmer and mon script into modern Day Central Lao script, which the Siamese took from the Lao and modified into the current modern Thai script. That is why Ramkhamhaeng language and script is the Lao script of Today, and how the thai script and language looks and sounds different from the orginal Lao script of Ramkhamhaeng.
the evidence is in the stone inscriptions. mung bor hoo nyang
Goombaking209
Jan 12 2008, 03:03 PM
^ If that is the case, why does the Lao script look like a watered down super simplified version of the Thai script?
mushrooms
Jan 12 2008, 04:19 PM
How does one explain how Lanna script is so similar to Khmer script when there is not really any connection between Khmer and Lanna?
Goombaking209
Jan 12 2008, 04:49 PM
Well look at the Aksar Moul Khmer script and compare it to Lanna here. Even the way they place the consonant is in the same order as Khmer Ka Kha Kor Khor Ngor.
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/lanna.htmNotice the way Kha, Ngor, Kor, Do, Na is written. Its so similar to the Khmer.
There must have been some unrecorded historical connection between Khmer and Lanna cause the script is too oddly similar.
Bounthy
Jan 12 2008, 05:22 PM
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Well look at the Aksar Moul Khmer script and compare it to Lanna here. Even the way they place the consonant is in the same order as Khmer Ka Kha Kor Khor Ngor.
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/lanna.htmNotice the way Kha, Ngor, Kor, Do, Na is written. Its so similar to the Khmer.
There must have been some unrecorded historical connection between Khmer and Lanna cause the script is too oddly similar.
The numerals 1 through 9 look the same between Khmer and Thai. Three Lao numerals (1, 4, and 5) look the same as their Thai and Khmer counterparts.
Lanna numerals (lek nai tam) 2, 3, 6, and 9 are the same as their Lao counterparts.
Savan
Jan 13 2008, 06:32 AM
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Jan 12 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]3421333[/snapback]
^ If that is the case, why does the Lao script look like a watered down super simplified version of the Thai script?
You're mistaken. It's not a "watered down super simplied version of the Thai script". The new Lao script is a modernized and more EFFICIENT version of the older Lao script...it's more efficient because it's 99% phonetic.
Thai script is more similar to the older version of the Lao script (pre-communist takeover), which was less efficient because it had too many silent characters. The older version of the Lao script as well as the current Thai script aren't as phonetic as today's Lao script, which is almost totally phonetic. Modern Lao people don't use the old way of spelling words like how the older generation Lao people did. The way Thai people spell their words is more similar to how the older generation Lao people used to spell their words with all those excessive silent characters. Modern Lao script is definitely an improvement in my eyes as far as it being almost 100% phonetic.
I'm sure at least one Thai person has thought about modernizing the Thai script to make it more efficient and easier to read/write, but I'm sure they're not going to pursue the changes because then people might think that they're copying Lao people by doing so.
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