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Kyusin
Check out this articles from Australia and vid shown on Youtube. icon_rolleyes.gif

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23014405-2,00.html

Video & full article shown on above link.

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A JAPANESE pro-whaling video condemning Australia as a racist nation using images of the infamous Cronulla riots has been launched on YouTube.

The 10-minute video, with English and Japanese subtitles, accuses Australia of white supremacy, exclusionist nationalism, a racist ideology and of prejudice towards the Japanese.

It shows graphic images of slain dingoes, a wallaby being killed by a child bashing it against a ute, and one horrific scene in which an Australian-looking man takes a baby kangaroo from its mother's pouch and stomps on it in the dirt.

It also reproduces famous photographs of angry, young men lashing out violently during the Cronulla riots.

The video will inflame already high tensions between Australia and Japan over the whaling issue.

"Australians must not use whales to justify the racist ideology," the video says.

"Australians have to eliminate prejudice and racism against the Japanese. Don't forget Cronulla race riots! These riots show the xenophobia and white supremacy. The next victims are the Japanese?"

It also criticises the former White Australia policy and the poor standing of indigenous people.

"Aboriginals and Asians are still treated as second-class citizens," it says.

The video ends by advocating a resumption of commercial minke whale slaughter.

"Eating whale meat is not barbaric," it says.

"Minke numbers are hundreds of thousands at least. They are not endangered. Minke whaling is sustainable."

The Japanese whaling fleet, which is in Antarctica hunting the sea giants, aims to slaughter up to 935 minkes and 50 endangered fin whales this summer.

The Australian Government said no amount of bullying would make it support whaling.

"Anyone who thinks that the Australian Government can be bullied into changing its opposition to whaling is dead wrong," a spokesman said.

The Federal Government's unarmed Customs vessel Oceanic Viking is understood to be leaving Fremantle early this week to monitor the fleet's activities and collect evidence for a potential legal challenge to Japan's so-called scientific research.

Plans to conduct aerial surveillance have been stalled while Skytraders, the firm that operates the A319 aircraft to be used to spy on the Japanese, awaits approval to conduct the low-altitude flights.

It only lodged its application with the Civil Aviation Safety Authority on Friday and may not get approval until next week.

Australia's own scientific research into whale populations using aerial monitoring - and the same aircraft - has been abandoned at the 11th hour because it is too late in the season.


-- And read some of the comments; icon_neutral.gif
Subotai
Oh ffs us aussies love our animals, including the ones off our beaches
What kind of attitude would you expect if we see one of you lot harpooning one of our whales? icon_rolleyes.gif

Sometimes common sense isn't that common at all
Arash
heh racism. The only come back they have and it's horse$hit.

Noon cares anyway.

STOP EATING THE DAMN WHALES!!!
Arash
The Australian coast guard should start firing on Japanese whaling ships.
Subotai
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heh racism. The only come back they have and it's horse$hit.

Noon cares anyway.

STOP EATING THE DAMN WHALES!!!


Heh if they cry racist I'll give them something to be fu-king racist about Talktohand.gif

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The Australian coast guard should start firing on Japanese whaling ships.


Hell yeah mate embarassedlaugh.gif
beerchug.gif
babelone
QUOTE(Arash @ Jan 7 2008, 01:08 AM) [snapback]3407448[/snapback]
The Australian coast guard should start firing on Japanese whaling ships.

There probably is some truth, both now and certainly historically, regarding the continuing belief in the racist white australia policy. Aborigines, Asians (I reckon we're sort of related ancestrally anyway somewhere back in time) and a significant percentage of all Australians seem to get the second-class livestock kind of treatment by the lucky country's lucky ones, but like it was mentioned above *, where do I sign to emigrate to Japan?

<* sorry. it was in one of the comments on the article, and not in this thread.>

It's also a bit of a long bow to draw in saying that because a few sickos are cruel to animals in Australia, and because much of Australia maintains that misguided "one nation" pauline hanson political belief, that it's okay to hunt endangered fellow mammals such as whales. What will be the next excuse for whaling? Australians don't drink enough saki?

I agree with the opinions above on the whaling issue, although it probably has a long tradition in Japanese culture too, and maybe there is a way to compromise, but that's beyond my understanding of this issue. There aren't enough whales now, so stop hunting them until there are.

What the report mentioned about the xenophobic attitude in Australia is fairly accurate though, and that needs to stop too, just as much as the whale slaughter/massacre. Now that Moby D-ick is dead, whales don't fight back to the harpoons, and we shouldn't bully them.

thumbsdown.gif to the Australian attitude on non-white Australians and the poor.

BUT

thumbsdown.gif as well to the whalers and their impotent argument to support their culling.

No offense to Japanese who aren't into whaling.

<edit: forgot where I'd read what I read between the two forums>
<edit II: typos, immigrate -> emigrate and had to fix Moby's D-ick for AF censorship>
Subotai
Sorry Babelone but you don't live here

Sure there are still faggots around but the only group of people who would even think of Pauline Hanson are the old faggots who grew up in all-white societies in their youth. Most come around to see the bigger picture after being forced to associate with others due to the white majority diminishing in numbers.

You can't judge an entire country just because of one stupid political head or our butt-fu-ked prime minister who had to retract his Pauline Hanson views lest he loses his office in a flash. If you wonder why he's still in office - it's because our economy has been strong under him.

I grew up on the beach, and the whales are part of what makes my home. I share the same love for these whales just like any other cracker n!p wog or abo aussie. For me I can be very racist, but it depends on the individual - so if the individual is harpooning our whales, I sure as hell would be racist - so I fully understand if other aussies do the exact same thing.

Bah Talktohand.gif
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 7 2008, 01:36 AM) [snapback]3407497[/snapback]
For me I can be very racist, but it depends on the individual - so if the individual is harpooning our whales, I sure as hell would be racist - so I fully understand if other aussies do the exact same thing.

Bah Talktohand.gif

That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
babelone
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 7 2008, 01:36 AM) [snapback]3407497[/snapback]
Sorry Babelone but you don't live here

Sure there are still faggots around but the only group of people who would even think of Pauline Hanson are the old faggots who grew up in all-white societies in their youth. Most come around to see the bigger picture after being forced to associate with others due to the white majority diminishing in numbers.

You can't judge an entire country just because of one stupid political head or our butt-fu-ked prime minister who had to retract his Pauline Hanson views lest he loses his office in a flash. If you wonder why he's still in office - it's because our economy has been strong under him.

I grew up on the beach, and the whales are part of what makes my home. I share the same love for these whales just like any other cracker n!p wog or abo aussie. For me I can be very racist, but it depends on the individual - so if the individual is harpooning our whales, I sure as hell would be racist - so I fully understand if other aussies do the exact same thing.

Bah Talktohand.gif

I respect your opinion Subo. I'll shoot you on sight for what you just said though. Best of luck!

You misunderstood and that is what you should have learned in school not to do.

Enjoy your newfound freedom.



Jor
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 6 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]3407497[/snapback]
Sorry Babelone but you don't live here

Sure there are still faggots around but the only group of people who would even think of Pauline Hanson are the old faggots who grew up in all-white societies in their youth. Most come around to see the bigger picture after being forced to associate with others due to the white majority diminishing in numbers.

You can't judge an entire country just because of one stupid political head or our butt-fu-ked prime minister who had to retract his Pauline Hanson views lest he loses his office in a flash. If you wonder why he's still in office - it's because our economy has been strong under him.

I grew up on the beach, and the whales are part of what makes my home. I share the same love for these whales just like any other cracker n!p wog or abo aussie. For me I can be very racist, but it depends on the individual - so if the individual is harpooning our whales, I sure as hell would be racist - so I fully understand if other aussies do the exact same thing.

Bah Talktohand.gif


This little rant has accomplished nothing but to lower you in the eyes of everyone who reads it. I'd FAR rather have the Japanese continue to whale (it was the US, Britain and Australia that that depopulated the whales in the first place) than to see Australia populated by people who think like you. A bleeding heart liberal rant chock full of nasty racist drivel. Now I've heard it all. fu-k off.
jose cuervo
QUOTE(Jor @ Jan 8 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]3411373[/snapback]
This little rant has accomplished nothing but to lower you in the eyes of everyone who reads it. I'd FAR rather have the Japanese continue to whale (it was the US, Britain and Australia that that depopulated the whales in the first place) than to see Australia populated by people who think like you. A bleeding heart liberal rant chock full of nasty racist drivel. Now I've heard it all. fu-k off.


Game. Set. Match.

Subotai
Pffft, go cry racist then and see if any of us even give a flying fu-k

STAY AWAY FROM OUR WHALES
Suijen
Which whales are Japan's then?
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]3411610[/snapback]
Pffft, go cry racist then and see if any of us even give a flying fu-k

STAY AWAY FROM OUR WHALES

Stop making retarded comments icon_rolleyes.gif
flipcombatmedic
QUOTE(Suijen @ Jan 8 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]3411618[/snapback]
Which whales are Japan's then?

all your whales are belong to australia
GentleWind
Yea I do not support killing whales. But also I agree that Australia might use whaling as an excuse to perpetuate their racist agendas.

Finally, Japanese people should not continue to hunt whales that are about to go extinct.

Australian whales that is non sense. Whales do not belong to people. People kidnap whales and put them in the zoo.
Subotai
QUOTE(Takashi @ Jan 9 2008, 06:10 AM) [snapback]3411625[/snapback]
Stop making retarded comments icon_rolleyes.gif


Oh right, all because you lack enough of a social intellect to understand that;
1) There are very few people left out there who can even be considered racist
2) If people are racist, they are most likely BEING racist - and in this situation - due to Japan's obvious disregard for the integrity of wildlife

I would side with the side that saves these whales, not japp fu-ks like you killing them off Talktohand.gif
Suijen
Wow, that's pretty racist.
GentleWind
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]3411651[/snapback]
Oh right, all because you lack enough of a social intellect to understand that;
1) There are very few people left out there who can even be considered racist
2) If people are racist, they are most likely BEING racist - and in this situation - due to Japan's obvious disregard for the integrity of wildlife

I would side with the side that saves these whales, not japp fu-ks like you killing them off Talktohand.gif



What is your definition of racism or a racist. I am just curious.
jose cuervo
Speaking of which has anyone eaten whale meat yet? I sure wonder what it taste like.
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]3411651[/snapback]
Oh right, all because you lack enough of a social intellect to understand that;
1) There are very few people left out there who can even be considered racist
2) If people are racist, they are most likely BEING racist - and in this situation - due to Japan's obvious disregard for the integrity of wildlife

I would side with the side that saves these whales, not japp fu-ks like you killing them off Talktohand.gif

I never realised you were so stupid.

1. No, go and look up the the word.
2. Nothing justifies racism.

As for the latter, if you're going to be a prick, you're going to be reported. Oh look I pressed it. Grow the fu-k up you pathetic twat icon_rolleyes.gif
If you're going to attempt to have a remotely sensible conversation, do not make racist comments little child.
GentleWind
Takishi he might be drunk lol
Takashi
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Jan 8 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]3411675[/snapback]
Takishi he might be drunk lol

That excuses him being a racist wanker does it?
No, I didn't think so.
Subotai
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Jan 9 2008, 06:26 AM) [snapback]3411663[/snapback]
What is your definition of racism or a racist. I am just curious.


I'm sick and fu-king tired of people waving that word around. Ok let's say I got ripped off from this Manitopian bloke for example, as soon as I find out, I'm going to go 'fu-king Manitopian c_nt'!!! That is natural, and the exact same situation playing itself out right now when it comes to Japanese Whalers and the Australian people.

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I never realised you were so stupid.

1. No, go and look up the the word.
2. Nothing justifies racism.

As for the latter, if you're going to be a prick, you're going to be reported. Oh look I pressed it. Grow the fu-k up you pathetic twat icon_rolleyes.gif
If you're going to attempt to have a remotely sensible conversation, do not make racist comments little child.


Ha! Looks like racism obviously affects you something bad, what happened now? Picked on as a kid?

1) I don't need to.
2) And that's the kind of uptight mentality that the world needs - to judge rather then to understand people.

Then report me mate - like I give a fu-k, if I had a re-run I would say what I'm saying to you twice over. Me grow up? laugh.gif I'm not the one crying racist and having a mentality where everything is black and white. icon_rolleyes.gif

I wouldn't call you matured at all, in fact, stuck up and pathetic would be the prime way to describe you.
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]3411693[/snapback]
I'm sick and fu-king tired of people waving that word around. Ok let's say I got ripped off from this Manitopian bloke for example, as soon as I find out, I'm going to go 'fu-king Manitopian c_nt'!!! That is natural, and the exact same situation playing itself out right now when it comes to Japanese Whalers and the Australian people.

It's not natural at all, which is why most people would have a problem with you saying it.
But oh no, most people must be wrong and Subotai must be right because he can't possibly ever be wrong.
Whether you intended it to be racist or not doesn't change the fact that anyone who heard you say it would perceive you as a racist unless they have $hit for brains.
jose cuervo
The British have some cool words like "wanker". biggrin.gif
Subotai
This is really becoming a stereotypical conversation between an easy-going Aussie with a passion and an stuck-up Brit coffee.gif

Bah I'm bored icon_rolleyes.gif

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And for the point that people don't seem to get:
"Most people can only 'BE' racist, and it's more situational then an actual trait"

I don't slap labels on people, not my thing, and to me doing that is as bad as racism itself Talktohand.gif
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]3411723[/snapback]
This is really becoming a stereotypical conversation between an easy-going Aussie with a passion and an stuck-up Brit coffee.gif

Bah I'm bored Talktohand.gif

No it's becoming a stereotypical conversation between an uneducated Aussie and an educated Brit.

I will forgive your ignorance in mistaking it for anything other than that.
Subotai
HA! And what a typical response coming from a Brit laugh.gif
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]3411735[/snapback]
HA! And what a typical response coming from a Brit laugh.gif

Because everyone in Britain is educated......not.

Typical eejit icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]3411723[/snapback]
And for the point that people don't seem to get:
"Most people can only 'BE' racist, and it's more situational then an actual trait"

I don't slap labels on people, not my thing, and to me doing that is as bad as racism itself Talktohand.gif

crazy.gif

You don't slap labels on people yet you look at them in light of their race/ethnicity, oh well that's not as bad at all.
*note the sarcasm
Subotai
QUOTE(Takashi @ Jan 9 2008, 07:01 AM) [snapback]3411740[/snapback]
crazy.gif

You don't slap labels on people yet you look at them in light of their race/ethnicity, oh well that's not as bad at all.
*note the sarcasm


I don't treat race 1 better then race 2, if I do - it's because of the individual, and I would be racist to that individual if he crossed me

So for you - I would call you a Japp fu-k, if I meet up with my mate down the road with a katana, I would call him a top Japanese bloke. But obviously you have been on the recieving end of racism for far too long to even understand that icon_rolleyes.gif
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]3411754[/snapback]
I don't treat race 1 better then race 2, if I do - it's because of the individual, and I would be racist to that individual if he crossed me

So for you - I would call you a Japp fu-k, if I meet up with my mate down the road with a katana, I would call him a top Japanese bloke. But obviously you have been on the recieving end of racism for far too long to even understand that icon_rolleyes.gif

That's stupid. You're going to be racist to someone because you dislike them? Do you not understand how disgusting and uneducated such behaviour is? Were you dragged up?

Yet again you get things wrong. I've not suffered from racism but I dislike racist d!ckheads.
Subotai
Great, now we finally know our differences biggthumpup.gif

I don't cry racist, but you do embarassedlaugh.gif
It's settled mate beerchug.gif
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]3411793[/snapback]
Great, now we finally know our differences biggthumpup.gif

I don't cry racist, but you do embarassedlaugh.gif
It's settled mate beerchug.gif

The difference is that you lack the ability to understand how someone who doesn't know you will perceive you to be if they heard that. If you don't mind people thinking you're a racist fu-k then fine. Generally I don't care what people think of me but I would never say something that I know could make someone feel worried or threatened or whatever they're going to feel because I've made a derogatory comment about their race.
garouga
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]3411651[/snapback]
Oh right, all because you lack enough of a social intellect to understand that;
1) There are very few people left out there who can even be considered racist
2) If people are racist, they are most likely BEING racist - and in this situation - due to Japan's obvious disregard for the integrity of wildlife

I would side with the side that saves these whales, not japp fu-ks like you killing them off Talktohand.gif


Out of curiosity, how do you know that? Have you met every single person out there to reach that conclusion?
Jaimu-Jaimu
Painfully poor attempt at defending their own barbaric actions.
Subotai
QUOTE(garouga @ Jan 9 2008, 07:25 AM) [snapback]3411806[/snapback]
Out of curiosity, how do you know that? Have you met every single person out there to reach that conclusion?


I've lived in both coasts of Australia, and I understand and relate to her people. This topic references itself to the Australian people no? I had hoped to clear out misunderstandings but it seems the people of this forum is too sensitive when it comes to racism.

But hey, the bottom-line is we can't be fu-ked with people crying racist over something we should be pissed off about in the first place - our whales. If we make racist comments against those whalers and they wish to cry racist then fine, let them be that pathetic.
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]3411826[/snapback]
But hey, the bottom-line is we can't be fu-ked with people crying racist over something we should be pissed off about in the first place - our whales. If we make racist comments against those whalers and they wish to cry racist then fine, let them be that pathetic.

1. They're not your whales.
2. If the only way you can argue against something is by resorting to childish racist comments your opinion will continuously be disregarded. If you produce a sensible argument people are much more likely to listen to you. There's nothing pathetic in someone pointing out that you made a racist comment, what is pathetic is that instead of addressing the issue you had to resort to name calling, well done big man, give yourself a pat on the back for failing to behave like an adult icon_rolleyes.gif
garouga
I see. In any case I agree with you. Racism shouldn't be used as an excuse to conveniently steer the topic away from the real issue at hand. And whaling should indeed be stopped.
Takashi
Anyway back to the topic at hand the whalers have made themselves look retarded embarassedlaugh.gif
Suijen
Whales are a public good.

Subotai
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LOL I never thought I affected you this greatly Takaboy to have you keep telling me 'oh you are racist because you made a racist comment' and 'oh quit name calling' lol - especially when you are making the majority of them against me embarassedlaugh.gif

Rather childish behaviour coming from a 'behaved adult' don't you think? Oh well, I'm sure hypocrites learn in time.
Takashi
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]3411859[/snapback]
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LOL I never thought I affected you this greatly Takaboy to have you keep telling me 'oh you are racist because you made a racist comment' and 'oh quit name calling' lol - especially when you are making the majority of them against me embarassedlaugh.gif

Rather childish behaviour coming from a 'behaved adult' don't you think? Oh well, I'm sure hypocrites learn in time.

If you've not learnt that stupidity annoys me by now then I don't know what you've been reading.
I didn't say you were a racist, learn to read.
I've not made a racist comment towards you so where you get that idea I don't know, I've not mentioned you being Mongolian anywhere. Insults sure.

I don't recall saying that I'm not partial to a bit of immaturity myself embarassedlaugh.gif

Subotai
Bleh I dunno, I forgotten what the heck I'm even arguing about ne ways embarassedlaugh.gif

All good, as long as the tone of this topic is SAVE THE WHALES!!!! rockon.gif
Jor
There's nothing wrong with whaling. Man is a hunter--always will be. Man is a carnivore--always will be. Man has whaled for at least 12,000 years. The Japanese have whaled many centuries and the whale populations did just fine.

It was whitey that nearly killed off the whale in less than 3 centuries. It was primarily the US, Britain and Australia who caused it. These are now the loudest mouthed countries when it comes to anti-whaling. No one more righteous than white people when it comes to saving animals they couldn't kill fast enough at one time--look at the bison.

Non-whites who support whitey's anti-whaling crusade are merely helping them feel better about what they've done and helping them to ameliorate their guilt feelings. I still remember when Bill Clinton tried to get the Alaskan Indians to stop hunting bowhead whales wihch were endangered (btw, not all whales are endangered and global warming poses a bigger threat to them than Japan does--and who caused global warming?), the Indians replied that they'd hunted bowhead for thousands of years without any danger to their population so who drove them to the brink of extinction? Clinton at least had the decency to shut up after that.

And that's my message to Australia, the United States and Britain--shut up.
Tabs
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Jan 8 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]3411639[/snapback]
Yea I do not support killing whales. But also I agree that Australia might use whaling as an excuse to perpetuate their racist agendas.

I don't understand what the racist agenda would be though?

I'm not trying to be glib, and I did watch the video, but I didn't understand what the conflict had to do with race. Anyone that can fill me in is welcome.
Subotai
In the past many nations have contributed to the downfall of whale populations, not just Japan true. But that ISN'T an excuse to justify continual whaling on a fu-king endangered species Talktohand.gif

Bah, and to hell with the piss-haired fu-ks in Norway if think they can get away with it either! fu-king cunts! Talktohand.gif

Hell you know what, I should be a fu-king marinist or at least working in an aquarium... *checks out current courses*

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I don't understand what the racist agenda would be though?

I'm not trying to be glib, and I did watch the video, but I didn't understand what the conflict had to do with race. Anyone that can fill me in is welcome.


It's obvious, they are crying racist trying to wave that word around in hope that people would overlook their actions.
GentleWind
QUOTE(Subotai @ Jan 8 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]3411693[/snapback]
I'm sick and fu-king tired of people waving that word around. Ok let's say I got ripped off from this Manitopian bloke for example, as soon as I find out, I'm going to go 'fu-king Manitopian c_nt'!!! That is natural, and the exact same situation playing itself out right now when it comes to Japanese Whalers and the Australian people.
Ha! Looks like racism obviously affects you something bad, what happened now? Picked on as a kid?


1) I don't need to.
2) And that's the kind of uptight mentality that the world needs - to judge rather then to understand people.

Then report me mate - like I give a fu-k, if I had a re-run I would say what I'm saying to you twice over. Me grow up? laugh.gif I'm not the one crying racist and having a mentality where everything is black and white. icon_rolleyes.gif

I wouldn't call you matured at all, in fact, stuck up and pathetic would be the prime way to describe you.


I am not sure if what the hellll you just said makes any sense

I was just wondering what your defintion of racism or a racist that is all

I am drunk lol embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE(Tabs @ Jan 8 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]3411920[/snapback]
I don't understand what the racist agenda would be though?

I'm not trying to be glib, and I did watch the video, but I didn't understand what the conflict had to do with race. Anyone that can fill me in is welcome.


If everything shown in the video is accurate, then why is it not ok for the Japanese to kill whales. What is the reason behind against killing whales from the Australian point of view.
Arash
The funny thing is the Japanese aren't even pretending to use whales for "scientific research" anymore.

What I don't understand is that with the sea being full of so much $hit they can stuff their faces with, why do they keep going after a giant species that is in danger of extinction?

The only argument they have is that "it's tradition".

Yeah? Well slavery used to be a tradition in America. By the same logic maybe they should send a bunch of ships over and fill em with Japanese and use em as field slaves back in the states.

Good argument!!
GentleWind
What is wrong with killing whales when we kill animals for our consumption all the time.

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