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Hafiz
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world's cheapest new car, is unveiled in India
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_...icle3164205.ece


India's Tata group to launch world's cheapest car
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5haQPHa...Vq-N57dCTcP4Mpw


This is the People’s Car, the world’s cheapest car at a starting price of 100,000 rupees ($2,500) or the equivalent of a DVD player in a Lexus.
flipcombatmedic
price to me is only second to quality. i'm not saying these cars are bad, i've no information on them, but usually when something is dirt cheap i'd think twice of buying it, esp. on things like cars.
protocl
cost to buy a ford focus in china for the chinese market....$3000
Hafiz
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In India, the world's cheapest car debuts to fanfare, criticism
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0110/p25s01-wosc.html

Manufacturers take note of the $2,500 vehicle’s massive market, as environmentalists fear the effects of an automobile influx.

India's Tata Motors unveils the world's cheapest car at Thursday's New Delhi Auto Expo, drawing interest and criticism from environmentalists and automakers around the globe.

Dubbed the 'People's Car,' the small vehicle will reportedly sell for 100,000 rupees (approximately US $2,500), less than half the cost of its closest competitor. With a 600cc motor capable of 58.8 miles per gallon of fuel, the rear-engine 4-seater will create little more pollution than a motorbike. The Wall Street Journal reports:

That should cheer environmentalists who loathe SUVs and other fuel-guzzling four-wheelers, as well as help consumers who currently can't afford a set of wheels.

But as the Tata model and a slew of low-cost imitators make cars more affordable, critics say the expected sharp increase in ownership will lead to an environmental and infrastructure disaster. The Observer reports:

"There is this mad rush towards lowering the prices to achieve mass affordability," said Anumita Roychoudhury, of the Centre for Science and Environment in Delhi. "If vehicle ownership increases very rapidly, we'll have a time bomb ticking away. When you lower the price that drastically, how will you be able to meet the safety and emissions standards? There are no clear answers yet."

Citing India's economic growth, which has averaged nearly nine percent over the past four years, The Economic Times, India's leading business publication, reports that India's rapidly growing middle-class has proven to be an attractive emerging market for automotive manufacturers, where car penetration is just seven vehicles per 1,000 people. According to The Economic Times:

An Indian government "Automotive Missions Plan" aims for automotive sales to more than quadruple to 145 billion dollars by 2016, and for indirect and direct auto sector employment to grow to 25 million from 13 million today … India's automotive industry, which produces 1.5 million vehicles annually, is worth 34 billion dollars a year and contributes five percent of India's gross domestic product.

Automakers everywhere are keenly watching progress in the Tata project, while some manufacturers are actively vying for an early spot in the low-cost car market, reports The Chicago Sun-Times:

Already, French automaker Renault SA and its Japanese partner, Nissan Motor Co., are trying to determine if they can sell a compact car for less than $3,000. Japan's Toyota Motor Corp., South Korea's Hyundai Motor Co. and Chinese automaker Chery also could be looking to make ultra-cheap cars in India, analysts say.

Tata Motors has drawn criticism for producing a vehicle expected to draw an annual demand of 1 million cars, deepening India's oil dependence and pollution while further straining the country's poor infrastructure. Tata, however, has rebutted these claims, Reuters reports:

Tata Motors says a lot of these fears are unfounded. It says the car will meet emission standards and that car sales are already growing fast without the help of the People's Car … "Given the rate at which the entire industry will grow, even if we market it very heavily, it will still be a miniscule percentage of the cars entering the roads," a company spokesman said.

The People's Car model unveiled today, made largely form plastics and modern adhesives, has no radio, no power steering, and no air conditioning. In a design The New York Times called " 'Ghandian engineering,' combining irreverence for conventional ways of thinking with a frugality born of scarcity," the vehicle may fall short of India's now lax safety standards in coming years. The Times continues:

Tata officials say the car will comply with all Indian norms. But they are changing. India's major cities plan to adopt the Euro IV emissions standards in April 2010, requiring a 35-fold reduction in sulfur emissions over the current Euro III standard …[and] new safety rules mandating air bags, antilock brakes and full-body crash tests are also coming.

Some are questioning why there has been so much criticism of a company attempting to address the global demand for vehicles across class lines. Despite the environmental impacts, an emerging middle class also want the benefits that car ownership provides, reports Reuters:

"It's the same dream anywhere in the world," said Jyoti Anand, a used-car salesman in Delhi. "You want a good home, a good car, and a beautiful wife."

Tata's success or failure will help determine the company's place in "the global automotive arena, where the battle is increasingly being fought in emerging economies such as India, China, and Russia," according to a separate Reuters article.

"The product has rightfully gained a lot of attention," said Mohit Arora, managing director for the India at research firm J.D. Power Asia-Pacific… "It's a big, big deal for Tata Motors, and will be recorded in history books, whether or not it does well."

HangPC2
2008 Tata Nano



Tata Nano, world's cheapest new car, is unveiled in India


1 Lakh = $2,500.00 / £1,277.00 / RM8,500.00



http://www.tatapeoplescar.com/tatamotors/


































HangPC2
2008 Tata Nano



Interior










DutchEastIndiesMan
This is Going to be a environment disaster.It will produce more green house gases to the world and it will put millions of new cars into the road....I do not agree with this idea until we solve our environment problem first...
jiggyiggy
You environuts need to get your facts straight. This car meets Euro IV emission standards and pollutes less then most of the vehicles on Indian roads today. They are only rolling out 250,000 a year too. If anything, they'd be lowering CO2 emissions if there were millions of these things on the road today.

Even if it's true, global warming isn't that big of a deal, if $hit hits the fan it'll just be an ecological market correction of sorts. That's the beauty of capitalism.

P.S. Give it another 5-10 years, before an Indian company comes out with a low cost, little to nil emission, and 80mpg+ car. Tata gave India the ech lakh car, and he was already joking about a urdo lakh car.
dude543
i didnt read this thread, but actually i think the cheapest car now is called the tata, and it's toyota. meaning japanese. it looks ugly like the yaris but for 2500 its not bad for just gettin ya from point a to point b without guzzling too much gas
VAMAN
It is not too hard to make an expensive car and make it work, but it is very hard to make the cheapest car in the world and make it perform up to the standards. Tata says that the car adhers to the norms of 'Euro 4' emission standards and also passed the safety standards. When it come to the end user only then practical feedback would be possible.
HangPC2
HangPC2

Fiery protest over Tata's Nano



January 11, 2008 7:27 AM PST

Posted by Jonathan Skillings






The Tata Nano, burning in effigy.
(Credit: Strdel/AFP/Getty Images))



Tata Motors is billing its tiny, ultracheap Nano as the "people's car," but some people would just as soon not see it get built--at least under current conditions.

The Tata Nano made an outsized splash at its debut Thursday as the world's automotive press disseminated details and photos of the $2,500 car, which the giant company ($7.2 billion in revenue for its most recent fiscal year) said it designed to give Indian families an alternative to overcrowded scooters and to "set a new benchmark among small cars." The Nano is roughly half as expensive as the next lowest-priced car on sale in India.

But while the bright lights of the New Delhi Auto Expo were trained on Tata's minicar, activists near Kolkata were burning the car in effigy. The Trinamool Congress, a West Bengal opposition group, torched a mockup of the Nano in protest over land rights at the factory location. "Until farmers get back their land forcibly acquired for the Tata Motors small car plant at Singur, we will not allow the company to manufacture cars there," opposition leader Partha Chatterjee decreed, according to The Economic Times of India.

In New Delhi, a small group of protesters made a less dramatic showing, but their T-shirt slogans were bold, The Times of India reported: "The ($2,500) car has Singur people's blood on it."

Pundits in the Indian media, meanwhile, debated whether the Nano offers more in the way of marketing hype than real consumer value.

Tata Motors makes cars, trucks, and buses for both the domestic market and for export, and has tie-ups with Italy's Fiat and Korea's Daewoo.


Sources : http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9848763-7.html?tag=nefd.top


VAMAN
^ Yes the new manufacturing facility of this new car is under lot of controversy. The communist government of West Bengal gave the land to TATA's, it is thousands of hectares of land. But the original owners the small farmer in return got only peanut amount of money in compensation. These Indian communists want to follow the footsteps of China but can't do anything properly. thumbsdown.gif
jiggyiggy
aaah effigy burning, the great Indian pastime.
HangPC2
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Jan 12 2008, 12:29 PM) *
^ Yes the new manufacturing facility of this new car is under lot of controversy. The communist government of West Bengal gave the land to TATA's, it is thousands of hectares of land. But the original owners the small farmer in return got only peanut amount of money in compensation. These Indian communists want to follow the footsteps of China but can't do anything properly. thumbsdown.gif



Indian communists ??? confused.gif
HangPC2
2008 Bajaj Lite Small Car Concept














Bajaj showcase $3,000 low-cost prototype will to be accompliant with renault-nissan



It’s the biggest auto show ever showcased in India. But the Ninth Auto Expo 2008, scheduled to open to the public on January 10 at New Delhi’s Pragati Maidan, is really two shows, not one.

Show One – the show – is the launch of the much ballyhooed Rs 1 lakh Tata small car on Thursday. Everyone, from the public to competitors, is waiting with bated breath for the curtains to go up on that car.

Which is why the rest of the crowd is planning Show Zero – the show before the show - well before the Expo formally opens. To avoid being overshadowed by the Tata car, automobile manufacturers are scheduling their announcements for January 8-9.

all begins with Bajaj Auto’s small car on Tuesday, followed by General Motors, Volkswagen, Fiat (Tata’s joint venture partner), Maruti, Volvo Cars and the rest.To be unveiled by Rajiv Bajaj, managing director of Bajaj Auto, this small car has been planned as a joint venture with Renault and Nissan. If everything goes according to plan, the car will hit the roads in 2010.

n a way, the rush to grab eyeballs before the Tata small car makes it presence felt is similar to the scenario in 1998, when Tata Motors unveiled the Indica, prompting other carmakers like Hyundai to showcase their products in advance. They were right, going by the huge crowds that thronged the Tata pavilion then. It is going to be even more intense this time around and Bajaj Auto possibly knows it better, considering that its own small car, to be priced at $3,000, will ultimately take on the Tata offering.”The car that will finally emerge will definitely be an improvement over the one (to be) displayed in Delhi. This is just a prototype and more work needs to be done,” Bajaj told DNA over telephone. What is especially interesting is that his engineers and R&D team had been working on the project even before Carlos Ghosn, the CEO of Renault and Nissan, kicked off talks for a possible alliance.

While Bajaj refused to comment on the specifications of the car that will be unveiled on Tuesday, he only ventured to say that the focus was on technology.

For the record, the 624cc Tata car is a four-door gearless car with a rear engine. Ratan Tata has also said on more than one occasion that the inspiration for the vehicle was the gearless scooter and, to that extent, it only made sense for a two-wheeler manufacturer to make something similar.

This is precisely what Bajaj Auto is doing, though the inspiration will possibly be drawn from the top-end Pulsar mobike. Bajaj was confident that his engineers would do a great job. “Tata’s dream is in safe hands,” he said tongue-in-cheek.

So, who will eventually triumph in this tug-of-war? Tata Motors, of course, has a two-year headstart and is projecting volumes of a million units by 2011. The company’s model is even more innovative, where one mother plant (at Singur, West Bengal) will supply kits for assembly to three or four satellite units across the country.

Bajaj Auto, in contrast, could settle for one plant and, to that extent, numbers could be lower. What is clear, though, is that both cars will be completely different and yet sold at a competitive price tag. Will this pave the way for a third player to throw his hat into the ring? Only time will tell.


Source : DNA



VAMAN
This is the website of TATA Nano http://www.tatapeoplescar.com/tatamotors/

The Nano will come in three variants - one basic model and two deluxe models. The basic model is the $2500 car, and the other two models will cost a little more and will have all the car accesories.
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jan 12 2008, 06:59 AM) *
Indian communists ??? confused.gif


Yes, there are Communist groups in India despite the country being a democracy.

QUOTE(jiggyiggy @ Jan 12 2008, 04:51 AM) *
aaah effigy burning, the great Indian pastime.


I don't get why it's done so much (mostly seems to happen in Bengal), other than it creates stories for the press does it achieve much?
VAMAN
QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jan 12 2008, 12:29 PM) *
Indian communists ??? confused.gif

India is a multi-party democracy. Everyone is free to choose his/her own ideology.

QUOTE(ACMILAN1983 @ Jan 12 2008, 05:46 PM) *
Yes, there are Communist groups in India despite the country being a democracy.
I don't get why it's done so much (mostly seems to happen in Bengal), other than it creates stories for the press does it achieve much?

People have very wrong notion that democracy and communism are two different things. In many countries democracy and communism coexist. Chinese are very liberal, though China has pure communist form of government it had still embraced capitalism. While in USA communism is still a bad word, and they call themselves a liberal democracy.

Hafiz
QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jan 12 2008, 02:59 AM) *
Indian communists ??? confused.gif


HindCom (Hindu Communist Party)
HangPC2
QUOTE(Hafiz @ Jan 13 2008, 02:10 AM) *
HindCom (Hindu Communist Party)


Similar like '' MAOIST '' ideology ???? confused.gif
HangPC2
2008 Tata Nano (Luxury Version)








Interior







HangPC2
REVA G-Wiz EV Crash Test




















GentleWind
Not very safe to drive it would totally get crusted if hit
VAMAN
QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jan 26 2008, 02:44 PM) *
REVA G-Wiz EV Crash Test

So it passed the crash test?
Hafiz
Western Technology in Indian car

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India Tata Motors Buys Jaguar, Land Rover
http://www.autospies.com/news/India-Tata-M...nd-Rover-18176/

NEW DELHI (Dow Jones)--India's Tata Motors Ltd. (500570.BY) has acquired Jaguar and Land Rover, Indian news channel CNBC-TV18 reported Thursday, citing unnamed sources.

A Tata Motors executive however declined comment when contacted by Dow Jones Newswires.

"Tata Motors does not have any comments to make. Tata Motors does not comment on mergers and acquisitions," said Debasis Ray, head of corporate communications.

Ford Motor Co. (F), which owns the two brands, also said the report was inaccurate and that it was still evaluating options.

Tata Motors, which makes buses, trucks and passenger cars, is India's largest commercial vehicle maker by sales.

Last month, Ford hired advisors to help sell Jaguar and Land Rover, both part of its Premier Automotive Group (PAG), in a move expected to reap as much as $8 billion, according to some estimates.

HangPC2

Renault-Nissan and Bajaj team up for USD2,500 car





The Renault-Nissan Alliance and Bajaj Auto will form a new joint-venture in India, held 50% by Bajaj Auto, 25% by Renault and 25% by Nissan. The new joint venture will develop and produce a new low cost car called the ULC, which would have a price tag of USD2,500 onwards. Not sure what ULC stands for at this moment, but I’m guessing something to the lines of Ultra Low Cost.

The Bajaj ULC will most likely be a production version of the Bajaj Lite concept car (shown above) displayed at the New Delhi Auto Show earlier this year. The Bajaj Lite concept featured a 2-cylinder engine and driven to the wheels via what Bajaj says is a new type of transmission that is a cross between a manual and an automatic.


That sounds like a manual with a computer controlled clutch like the Savvy’s AMT gearbox to me, but we’ll see what Bajaj has up its sleeves. Could a centrifugal clutch like a bike’s (Bajaj is a bike maker) be used on a car? Actually, it has been used in the past, but we’re talking about cars from the 1930s here.

Bajaj managing director Rajiv Bajaj was quoted referring to the Lite concept to say, “It will be priced competitively but not sell on the pricing. Offering the customer twice the fuel economy is more effective than offering half the price.”




- Paul Tan -



higginm
Yep, other companies will follow suit to compete with Tata.

I think it looks not bad as well for such a cheap car...
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(GentleWind @ Jan 26 2008, 10:22 AM) *
Not very safe to drive it would totally get crusted if hit


It hasn't been built with many safety features, which is one of the reasons it's so cheap.

QUOTE(VAMAN @ Jan 26 2008, 12:31 PM) *
So it passed the crash test?


No, it failed quite miserably icon_wink.gif
-=(-_-)=- HI-hit
QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jan 26 2008, 07:14 PM) *
REVA G-Wiz EV Crash Test














oh god, i rather pay the extra money for a more solid car
higginm
QUOTE(-=(-_-)=- HI-hit @ May 13 2008, 07:13 AM) *
oh god, i rather pay the extra money for a more solid car


I was sure the GWIZ was not a TATA.

Am I wrong, can anyone clear this up?
VAMAN
QUOTE(ACMILAN1983 @ May 13 2008, 11:10 AM) *
No, it failed quite miserably icon_wink.gif

I suppose all the cars are supposed to get smashed in the crash test. They calculate the amount of shock the car can withstand in an accident. icon_wink.gif

QUOTE(higginm @ May 13 2008, 12:01 PM) *
I was sure the GWIZ was not a TATA.

Am I wrong, can anyone clear this up?

REVA G-Wiz is an electric car. It is manufactured by the Reva Electric Car Company. It is based somewhere in South India. Reva has no connection with Tata.

I have seen a few Reva cars in India. Does anyone have any idea if it is in use in other countries as well. May be it is already been used in U.K., since I found this website

http://www.goingreen.co.uk/store/content/gwiz
higginm
QUOTE(VAMAN @ May 13 2008, 09:02 AM) *
REVA G-Wiz is an electric car. It is manufactured by the Reva Electric Car Company. It is based somewhere in South India. Reva has no connection with Tata.



Ok, thanks VAMAN. :-)
higginm
P.S. I like the new air powered car designed by a French company but which Tata have bravely decided to put into production.

No expensive batteries, which are hugely poluting in both their construction and disposal.

I think when the French designers come up with a hybrid version then Tata can potentially trump Toyota (traditional hybrid cars need their batteries changed at 60,000 miles with huge financial and environmental cost)!

This car could have potential, ok it's a risk but worth the small capital outlay from Tata to prove or disprove the technology in the real world.
higginm
QUOTE(higginm @ May 13 2008, 09:06 AM) *
Ok, thanks VAMAN. :-)


yes the car is to my knowledge on sale in the UK. TopGear a british car telivision program did a review of it.

I don't think the British though are fully ready yet for such small cars unfortunately. Maybe in 5 or 10 years we will be (when we get forced to downsize even further)
VAMAN
QUOTE(higginm @ May 13 2008, 01:42 PM) *
P.S. I like the new air powered car designed by a French company but which Tata have bravely decided to put into production.

No expensive batteries, which are hugely poluting in both their construction and disposal.

I think when the French designers come up with a hybrid version then Tata can potentially trump Toyota (traditional hybrid cars need their batteries changed at 60,000 miles with huge financial and environmental cost)!

This car could have potential, ok it's a risk but worth the small capital outlay from Tata to prove or disprove the technology in the real world.

An air powered car? Are you sure about this? Some type of combustible substance is needed to power a car, how can only air could power a car? If there is any such type of technology then I suppose it is in a rudimentary stage, and not yet fit for real practical purposes. May be they use Hydrogen or Helium instead of plain Air?? I am confused. confused.gif

QUOTE(higginm @ May 13 2008, 01:48 PM) *
yes the car is to my knowledge on sale in the UK. TopGear a british car telivision program did a review of it.

I don't think the British though are fully ready yet for such small cars unfortunately. Maybe in 5 or 10 years we will be (when we get forced to downsize even further)

Thanks for the feedback. beerchug.gif
higginm
QUOTE(VAMAN @ May 13 2008, 09:42 AM) *
An air powered car? Are you sure about this? Some type of combustible substance is needed to power a car, how can only air could power a car? If there is any such type of technology then I suppose it is in a rudimentary stage, and not yet fit for real practical purposes. May be they use Hydrogen or Helium instead of plain Air?? I am confused. confused.gif
Thanks for the feedback. beerchug.gif


Yes, it's compressed air the car runs on :

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-e...y-news1.7c.html

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/busi...icle3399532.ece
Jagger
QUOTE(ACMILAN1983 @ May 13 2008, 06:40 AM) *
It hasn't been built with many safety features, which is one of the reasons it's so cheap.

No, it failed quite miserably icon_wink.gif

That's what they get for being so cheap... how typical of you Indians.
Jhangora
Waiting for Nano's commercial release.
peshwawarrior
QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jan 26 2008, 04:14 AM) *
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