Are confucious values/beliefs/customs still prevalient in China? It seems to me that it's ironic that his ideals were of a highly structured society with an emphasis on education and hierachial structures, yet when you look at China:

- everything is kind of unstructured (all over the place, just look at the roads as a prime exaple).

- it's still relatively uneducated, i mean for university graduates.

- it's still hierachial BUT kind of not.

- OK, women arent treated like men in China, but it's worse in Japan and South Korea, confucious values oppress women.

Looking at Japan and South Korea heck, even North Korea I reckon they would be more of a Confucious country than China is or ever was.

yah..it's sad, Mao did a pretty good job of ridding mainland China of Confucian values during the Cultural Revolution

Confucian values are and will always exist in Chinese society. right now, it just exists in some pseudo capitalist/socialist state

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Hahhaha wu liao?

What do you consider worthwhile then? sheesh.

When you think about it, that older is wiser or knows best is a total load of bull$hit.

This is why it leads into problems such as comparisions amongst asians.

OK, what are the basic Confucian principles?

since u don't know..don't even mention it

don't listen to him la..
my dad was taoist..he never mention that kinda stuff

having sex..u will have more healthy bodyy the ying yang thing...

on one thing.. why south korea use taoism simple as their country flag??

The flag, called "Tae Kuk," symbolizes the thought, philosophy, and mysticism of the Far East.

The circle in the center, red upper half and blue lower half, represents absolute, or the essential unity of all being. The Yang (positive) and the Yin (negative) divisions within the circle represent duality. Examples of duality are heaven and hell, fire and water, life and death, good and evil, or night and day

The four trigrams also indicate the duality of opposites and balances. In the upper left trigram, three unbroken lines symbolize Heaven; opposite them in the lower right, three broken lines represent Earth. In the upper right trigram, two broken lines separated by an unbroken line is the symbol of Fire; opposite them is water, symbolized by two unbroken lines separated by a broken line.

Symbolic of the nation is the white background (the land), the circle (people), and the four trigrams (the government). All three make up the essential elements of the nation.

韓國人好奇怪...

Yeah that's smart. The South Korean flag is awesome, not stupid dumb@ss like the Vietnamese and Chinese ones.

but they took it from chinese religion...

Ohh, that's why. They originally could've conquered all of Europe, but the Khan died, so they retreated back to Mongolia to decide a new Khan. They never went back. Let's just say the mongols knew back then Europe wasn't worth all the men needed to fight it, they focused on China from then on i think. And after China they tried to conquer Vietnam, they never really went back to Europe (i'm pretty sure).

Confucianism is prevalent in Korea, but I have to say that it's also holding the country back. I think Korea is very backwards because of its predominant Confucianist mentality. Some examples are its repression of women, stress on order stymieing creativity, lack of individuality. It's only recently shedding its shackles in becoming more westernized.

I've recently been reading Lao Tzu, and find his philosophy and writings fascinating. Can anyone tell me more about him?

Yes, Confucianism is very backward and it kept all people down, since they should worship their ruler. Women mistreated. Man, I'm pissed everytime I catch a glimpse of one of those Korean series.

I don't understand how if the Mongols were to rule longer Asian would be able to stand up to white people. I think it would be opposite, Asian would be treated way worse. The Mongol themselves put Chinese at the bottom, they treated muslim and whites better than they do Asian. If they did rule all of Asia and longer, they would make us like Africans.