Full Version: Do you Filipinos know how to grow & harvest rice?
if not, have u do you ever worked in a rice patty?
yes of course filipinos do but not all. i've tried planting rice in one of the plantations of my friend and there are so many bloodsuckers in the soil!! 
it really is hard work. it's no joke.
it really is hard work. it's no joke.
BTW, whats the ranking of rice production of Phi in the world?
hey cuong do u know how to pick rice?!
in provinces..i can see the farmers planting rice....
yes but do you know how to plant rice?!
well if ur a farmer yes...
its a yes or no question you guys.... come on now, hmm maybe the question is ambigious, i would like to know if YOU know how to grow & harvess rice?
no since Im not a farmer...its like asking the general population if they know how to perform a surgery...only the surgeons etc.. will know...
ok u got me there da return of tha mac! but isnt much of philippine population still rural?
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 8 2004, 12:33 AM)
hey cuong do u know how to pick rice?!
no i don't and i prefer not to learn
I dont know how sow rice coz im living in the city, but i love looking with those hardworking harvesters. But my mom storied me on how they did it in the province.
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 7 2004, 10:23 AM)
ok u got me there da return of tha mac! but isnt much of philippine population still rural?
according to the cia world factbook, apparently so...
'agriculture 45%, industry 15%, services 40% (2003 est.)'
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rp.html
ooh.. 8th.. not bad...
Top 10 rice producers, 2003
(paddy production in metric tonnes)
1. China 166,000,000
2. India 133,513,000
3. Indonesia 51,849,200
4. Bangladesh 38,060,000
5. Viet Nam 34,605,400
6. Thailand 27,000,000
7. Myanmar 21,900,000
8. Philippines 13,171,087
9. Brazil 10,219,300
10. Japan 9,863,000
http://www.fao.org/rice2004/en/aboutrice.htm
i have no idea how to grow rice... it's hard, u need to practically drown rice... o_O
QUOTE (Cuong @ Aug 7 2004, 10:03 PM)
BTW, whats the ranking of rice production of Phi in the world?
Rice production in the Philippines is way below most of its Asian neighbors!Due to typhoons and other factors.
QUOTE (Ek-ek @ Aug 7 2004, 05:11 PM)
QUOTE (Cuong @ Aug 7 2004, 10:03 PM)
BTW, whats the ranking of rice production of Phi in the world?
Rice production in the Philippines is way below most of its Asian neighbors!Due to typhoons and other factors.
I do know how to plant rice and harvest them too! but i'm no farmer! i just hang around with farmers...
my hometown still has a lot of rice paddies! but now some are being converted to residential lots! sad!wanna step by step instruction?
we are now lagging in 8th place because of so many factors:
chief among them is the destruction of central luzon due to the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo. Central luzon was the rice bowl of the Philippines and the Philippines then was the rice bowl of Asia, i believe...
next is that massive population explosion... result: conversion of agricultural lands into residential and industrial land use!
thirdly again: politics! if we lower our rice production, we need to import rice and there is lots of money involved in importation than exportation... meaning politicos will have bigger "cuts" in the money!
and hey! if Lorenzo (former DA Secretary) was not removed from office, his program would have shown us ceasing importation of rice in 2 years' time! Meaning we will be self sufficient in rice production... again, politics... so he was removed from office in what is termed as cabinet revamp i guess... haaay
well its amazing we have the cordilera rice terraces! lets make use of them and work with the cordillera tribes maintain the terraces and they may share the rice with us?
the rice terraces is insufficient to supply for the whole of the Philippines, i think their rice production is limited to the mountain province... they practice indigenous rice planting (i think) and not mass production... and we don't want to force them to do what is against their system, do we?
Phillipines didn't teach us how to make rice. Vietnamese were one of the first East Asians to even grow rice.
i don't know how to plant and harvest rice...
what i know is that philippines used to export rice in other countries.
what i know is that philippines used to export rice in other countries.
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 9 2004, 07:09 PM)
Phillipines didn't teach us how to make rice. Vietnamese were one of the first East Asians to even grow rice.
Well, perhaps not, but the advance technology (then) of rice production was learned from IRRI the International Rice Research Institute, located in Los Baņos, right?
i guess... correct me if i am wrong... 
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 7 2004, 11:11 PM)
its a yes or no question you guys.... come on now, hmm maybe the question is ambigious, i would like to know if YOU know how to grow & harvess rice?
in theory, yes, i do know how to do it. but i don't think i can do it because of the heat and everything.
but... i know how to grow and take care of mango trees if you're interested
QUOTE (maogmang_aki @ Aug 10 2004, 05:24 AM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 9 2004, 07:09 PM)
Phillipines didn't teach us how to make rice. Vietnamese were one of the first East Asians to even grow rice.
Well, perhaps not, but the advance technology (then) of rice production was learned from IRRI the International Rice Research Institute, located in Los Baņos, right?
i guess... correct me if i am wrong... Dude Vietnam is the 2nd largest rice exporter in the world after Thailand. We even sell rice to the Phillipines. So if the Phillipines taught us how to grow rice then how come they aren't producing more rice than us?
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 10 2004, 06:51 AM)
QUOTE (maogmang_aki @ Aug 10 2004, 05:24 AM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 9 2004, 07:09 PM)
Phillipines didn't teach us how to make rice. Vietnamese were one of the first East Asians to even grow rice.
Well, perhaps not, but the advance technology (then) of rice production was learned from IRRI the International Rice Research Institute, located in Los Baņos, right?
i guess... correct me if i am wrong... Dude Vietnam is the 2nd largest rice exporter in the world after Thailand. We even sell rice to the Phillipines. So if the Phillipines taught us how to grow rice then how come they aren't producing more rice than us?
u don't understand. the philippines created new methods of rice harvesting that are more efficient. foreigners go to IRRI to learn how to use these new techniques and go back to their own country to make use of the technology. however, filipinos aren't making use of these new methods as much as their neighbours, even if they're teaching it in IRRI
sadly many filipinos would rather learn something else in university than how to grow rice beter. (which i can understand... go to university to learn how to work all day in the sun?)thats y my dad was saying its so sad that whenever he wants export quality fruits its from thailand (they make really nice fruits there
), when it always used to be the philippines. many thais go to the philippines to learn new methods of farming rice and growing fruit to make use of when they go home. i think if they don't already, the filipino government should give farmers free addmittance into IRRI so they can learn theier own craft maybe with work the philipines can catch up... 
Ok the Instititude happens to be in the Phillipines but it was started by Americans Ford and Rockfeller Foundations and Vietnam is not a member of it.
http://www.scisoc.org/ispp/world_directory...Pages/IRRI.html
We had our own rice introduced in ancient times long ago into China I believe which grew twice as fast as that grown in China and saved lots of Chinese lives and I believe it was the Chinese who taught the Filipinos how to grown rice right?
We have our own rice making methods which have given us the ability to be the 2nd largest rice exporter.
http://www.scisoc.org/ispp/world_directory...Pages/IRRI.html
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As listed in its most recent Corporate Report, IRRI receives support, through the CGIAR, from a number of donors including UNDP, World Bank, European Union, Asian Development Bank, and Rockefeller Foundation, and the international aid agencies of the following governments:
Australia, Belgium, Canada, People's Republic of China, Denmark, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Islamic Republic of Iran, Japan, Republic of Korea, The Netherlands, Norway, Philippines, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and United States.
Australia, Belgium, Canada, People's Republic of China, Denmark, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Islamic Republic of Iran, Japan, Republic of Korea, The Netherlands, Norway, Philippines, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and United States.
We had our own rice introduced in ancient times long ago into China I believe which grew twice as fast as that grown in China and saved lots of Chinese lives and I believe it was the Chinese who taught the Filipinos how to grown rice right?
We have our own rice making methods which have given us the ability to be the 2nd largest rice exporter.
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 10 2004, 03:17 PM)
Ok the Instititude happens to be in the Phillipines but it was started by Americans Ford and Rockfeller Foundations and Vietnam is not a member of it.
http://www.scisoc.org/ispp/world_directory...Pages/IRRI.html
We had our own rice introduced in ancient times long ago into China I believe which grew twice as fast as that grown in China and saved lots of Chinese lives and I believe it was the Chinese who taught the Filipinos how to grown rice right?
We have our own rice making methods which have given us the ability to be the 2nd largest rice exporter.
http://www.scisoc.org/ispp/world_directory...Pages/IRRI.html
QUOTE
As listed in its most recent Corporate Report, IRRI receives support, through the CGIAR, from a number of donors including UNDP, World Bank, European Union, Asian Development Bank, and Rockefeller Foundation, and the international aid agencies of the following governments:
Australia, Belgium, Canada, People's Republic of China, Denmark, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Islamic Republic of Iran, Japan, Republic of Korea, The Netherlands, Norway, Philippines, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and United States.
Australia, Belgium, Canada, People's Republic of China, Denmark, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Islamic Republic of Iran, Japan, Republic of Korea, The Netherlands, Norway, Philippines, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and United States.
We had our own rice introduced in ancient times long ago into China I believe which grew twice as fast as that grown in China and saved lots of Chinese lives and I believe it was the Chinese who taught the Filipinos how to grown rice right?
We have our own rice making methods which have given us the ability to be the 2nd largest rice exporter.
vietnam still uses the same methods of growing rice that it used in ancient times? that sounds interesting. if they use ancient ways to grow rice would there still be enough rice being made that it produces profit? b/c when you think of ancient methods you think of subsistent farming and making just enough as a family would need, so as to not waste rice.
hmm, the chinese teaching the filipinos to grow rice, to be honest, i ahave no idea who introiced rice to the hpilippines, maybe someone can check that one out...
well, all over southest asia everyone uses the same techneque for hundreds of years...in terms of traditional farmers.
, filipino rice farmer...what a job. Hard work
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 10 2004, 08:09 AM)
Phillipines didn't teach us how to make rice. Vietnamese were one of the first East Asians to even grow rice.
No, It was the Chinese and Koreans who first started to cultivate rice!
Dude I have an article that I posted a while ago that said Vietanmese were ONE of the first East Asians to grow rice.
Yes we still use ancient methods to grow rice, we mostly use Ox to plow the fields for us as we have done for a very long time and we use wet rice farming techniques as well.
Yes we still use ancient methods to grow rice, we mostly use Ox to plow the fields for us as we have done for a very long time and we use wet rice farming techniques as well.
mga pare, panalunin nyo na lang, mukhang iiyak na eh.
mmm, vietnamese are a proud people
SIge na nga... pero to compound issues on who first grow rice... i wonder how old the BANAUE RICE TERRACES WAS???
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Aug 10 2004, 06:41 PM)
mmm, vietnamese are a proud people
I'm not boasting or anything, I'm just saying no one taught us how to grow rice and we aren't even a member of that Rice Research Institute. I would gladly accept that we are a member of it if someone can provide me proof of it.
arent they over 2000 years old. Those ifugao and igorot people are beautiful. They also have differnt facial features...
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 9 2004, 07:09 PM)
Phillipines didn't teach us how to make rice. Vietnamese were one of the first East Asians to even grow rice.
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Vietnam honors IRRI scientist
The government of Vietnam has once again recognized IRRI's contributions to its rice production efforts by presenting an award to one of the Institute's leading scientists. During the recent IRRC steering committee meeting in Hanoi, Dr. Achim Dobermann, soil nutrition specialist with IRRI's Soil and Water Sciences Division, was presented a medal "For the Cause of Agriculture and Rural Development" by the Ministry of Agriculture.
The IRRC comprises India, Indonesia, China, Lao PDR, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. Its major objectives are to promote an integrated pest management (IPM) approach in national agricultural research and extension systems, improve farmers' income, and minimize health risks and environmental disruptions resulting from pesticide use by applying efficient and environmentally sound pest management techniques, tools, and strategies.
In response to receiving the award, Dr. Dobermann said, "Vietnam has not only significantly increased its rice production in the past few years but has also strengthened its agricultural research sector, leading to many new collaborative research activities with institutions such as IRRI and others. Since 1993, I have collaborated with many scientists in Vietnam. Their skills and dedication have contributed much to the success of our joint work. In the coming years, IRRI will concentrate on providing extension staff and farmers with the knowledge and tools needed to increase rice yields through improved soil and nutrient management practices."
IRRI director general Dr. Ronald P. Cantrell said, "This honor for Dr. Dobermann is significant because it recognizes the hard work and scientific contributions of one of IRRI's scientists. It also highlights the importance to Vietnam of joint research on improving nutrient management in rice."
Dr. Dobermann coordinates the IRRI mega project "Reversing Trends in Declining Productivity in Intensive Irrigated Rice Systems" funded by the Swiss Agency for Development and Cooperation, the International Fertilizer Industry Association, the Potash and Phosphate Institute, and the International Potash Institute. The project employs a site-specific integrated nutrient management (SSNM) approach to overcome low productivity and low nutrient efficiency in intensive irrigated systems in Asia. This approach is currently being tested on 48 rice farms in northern and southern Vietnam, in collaboration with the National Institute for Soils and Fertilizers (NISF) and the Cuu Long Delta Rice Research Institute (CLRRI). Pilot studies on extending the SSNM approach to village and provincial levels will start in India, the Philippines, and Vietnam in 2000.
The government of Vietnam has once again recognized IRRI's contributions to its rice production efforts by presenting an award to one of the Institute's leading scientists. During the recent IRRC steering committee meeting in Hanoi, Dr. Achim Dobermann, soil nutrition specialist with IRRI's Soil and Water Sciences Division, was presented a medal "For the Cause of Agriculture and Rural Development" by the Ministry of Agriculture.
The IRRC comprises India, Indonesia, China, Lao PDR, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. Its major objectives are to promote an integrated pest management (IPM) approach in national agricultural research and extension systems, improve farmers' income, and minimize health risks and environmental disruptions resulting from pesticide use by applying efficient and environmentally sound pest management techniques, tools, and strategies.
In response to receiving the award, Dr. Dobermann said, "Vietnam has not only significantly increased its rice production in the past few years but has also strengthened its agricultural research sector, leading to many new collaborative research activities with institutions such as IRRI and others. Since 1993, I have collaborated with many scientists in Vietnam. Their skills and dedication have contributed much to the success of our joint work. In the coming years, IRRI will concentrate on providing extension staff and farmers with the knowledge and tools needed to increase rice yields through improved soil and nutrient management practices."
IRRI director general Dr. Ronald P. Cantrell said, "This honor for Dr. Dobermann is significant because it recognizes the hard work and scientific contributions of one of IRRI's scientists. It also highlights the importance to Vietnam of joint research on improving nutrient management in rice."
Dr. Dobermann coordinates the IRRI mega project "Reversing Trends in Declining Productivity in Intensive Irrigated Rice Systems" funded by the Swiss Agency for Development and Cooperation, the International Fertilizer Industry Association, the Potash and Phosphate Institute, and the International Potash Institute. The project employs a site-specific integrated nutrient management (SSNM) approach to overcome low productivity and low nutrient efficiency in intensive irrigated systems in Asia. This approach is currently being tested on 48 rice farms in northern and southern Vietnam, in collaboration with the National Institute for Soils and Fertilizers (NISF) and the Cuu Long Delta Rice Research Institute (CLRRI). Pilot studies on extending the SSNM approach to village and provincial levels will start in India, the Philippines, and Vietnam in 2000.
Everyone know the IRRI provided the world with BETTER strains of rice for more plentifull harvests.
and here's a link that shows how much the IRRI has helped Vietnam throughout the
years
http://www.irri.org/media/facts/pdfs/vietnam.pdf
Byron, your so hateful that you can't even see this. You aint even proud, your just full of hate. What did Filipinos ever do to you for you to hate us so much? You don't see a Filipino coming on the Viet forums trying to discredit them everytime someone posts something positive, do you?
...*claps* wow... so now we can all agree that although vietnam was one of the most skilled in cultivating rice since ancient times, IRRI still teaches many non-filipino students including the vietnamese how to grow rice today.
PS: if this is over with, i must say that was one of the best debates i've seen on af yet... most other discussions are just about bashing other cultures...
PS: if this is over with, i must say that was one of the best debates i've seen on af yet... most other discussions are just about bashing other cultures...
^^this was lame
It shouldn't have been a debate to begin with
It shouldn't have been a debate to begin with
QUOTE (Horitaka @ Aug 10 2004, 08:55 PM)
^^this was lame
It shouldn't have been a debate to begin with
It shouldn't have been a debate to begin with
haha yes... so true... but i am a pretty lame person so ya can't blame me... n byron's very err... patriotic... (like american style patriotic..
) so he was bound to try n start something...
your not lame
i'm just sick of people discrediting the acchievment of Filipinos. He's not even showing Patriotism either, he's just showing how much of a bigot he is.
i'm just sick of people discrediting the acchievment of Filipinos. He's not even showing Patriotism either, he's just showing how much of a bigot he is.
LOL oh yeah I'm such a bigot. Please show me what I said that was hateful towards Filipinos? I even said that I couldn't find proof and would GLADLY accept it if someone found it for me.
cmon guys, no need for arguments here. lets just celebrate our Asian achievements of growing and harvesting rice thoughout the centuries and what makes us unique from other continents. 
yep yep yep... cheers to us asians!!!
Besides, there won't be any comptetion yet on rice exportation coming from the Philippines, not in a long time...
Besides, there won't be any comptetion yet on rice exportation coming from the Philippines, not in a long time...
exactly. ahaha but still... those rice terraces sure are impressive eh? we can all agree on that.
hey there are insenstive jerks on these forums who feel they can get away with condescending remarks on the techniqualities that they arent "blatant" racist statements. so i dont trust anyone on the forums
ppl i once consider really cool individualls on here are not so much after u see their true faces!
ppl i once consider really cool individualls on here are not so much after u see their true faces!
QUOTE (ham_let @ Aug 10 2004, 10:17 PM)
exactly. ahaha but still... those rice terraces sure are impressive eh? we can all agree on that.
So... to get back on track.... some Filipino can plant and harvest rice, others have other specialization such as surgery, or photography or acting...
most of countries in Asia knew how to plant and harvest rice, some have expert knowledge in coming up with better yield, others learn from some other else...
and our rice terraces are one of the greatest wonders of the ANCIENT world!!!
haven't tried palnting rice but i do love to do so....
i wonder if the igorots can swim in the rice terraces..... like u see them full of water.... idoubt it because it is so shallow right? well do they at least wade or sit in there to cool off?
and how do they get water to the very top of the rice terraces?
and how do they get water to the very top of the rice terraces?
um, stairs? i mean, it's the easiest way since they do look like stairs.
i mean, it's the easiest way since they do look like stairs.
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 11 2004, 07:07 AM)
i wonder if the igorots can swim in the rice terraces..... like u see them full of water.... idoubt it because it is so shallow right? well do they at least wade or sit in there to cool off?
and how do they get water to the very top of the rice terraces?
and how do they get water to the very top of the rice terraces?
i dunno, maybe they have some secret water irrigation techniques?
I wouldnt mind living near something like that. I wonder if it has leeches
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