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tutudelai
As the matter fact , so far I can understand from this forum , as a lot of people who want to kizz azz and making their own race has somewhat relation with Japanese , I think those losed is plain sick , because this shows how self-abased they really are when confronting the japanese people .

As matter of fact , you dont really have to fabricate something as somewhat racially connect to Japan to ease your self-abased soul , all you need to do is bulit up some diginity courage, and aspriation to work your azz off as to create a utopia of the east which is as refine , classy , prosper and rich as japanese empire .

All the people who here to trumpet some fanatastic tale as Japanese 's relatives is loser , what happend being a proud Chinese , a proud Korean , A proud Mogolian , a proud turkey .

Man , you are disgrace to your great ancestors
babelone
QUOTE(tutudelai @ Jan 25 2008, 03:25 AM) [snapback]3448709[/snapback]
Man , you are disgrace to your great ancestors

How about that Canadian chick that Zenzo found the other day, eh? What a sick puppy!

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tutudelai
QUOTE(babelone @ Jan 24 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]3448745[/snapback]
How about that Canadian chick that Zenzo found the other day, eh? What a sick puppy!

laugh.gif



Yeah , you dont have to envy the Japanese suceuss , all you need to do is build up some diginity and vow for self-betterment ,
being a spineless morom are not going to solve a god damn thing
Mua
QUOTE(tutudelai @ Jan 25 2008, 04:25 AM) [snapback]3448709[/snapback]
As the matter fact , so far I can understand from this forum , as a lot of people who want to kizz azz and making their own race has somewhat relation with Japanese , I think those losed is plain sick , because this shows how self-abased they really are when confronting the japanese people .

As matter of fact , you dont really have to fabricate something as somewhat racially connect to Japan to ease your self-abased soul , all you need to do is bulit up some diginity courage, and aspriation to work your azz off as to create a utopia of the east which is as refine , classy , prosper and rich as japanese empire .

All the people who here to trumpet some fanatastic tale as Japanese 's relatives is loser , what happend being a proud Chinese , a proud Korean , A proud Mogolian , a proud turkey .

Man , you are disgrace to your great ancestors

HAHHAHAHA

and im a proud chicken!
507bro
aww the joy of japanophiles aka weeabo they are annoying
as hell on the internet and real life
esin
The reason is, Japanese do not like you if you are not Japanese. Infact, they are so loaded with hatred, a hatred so strong that a new word must be imposed to describe the level of hatred ONLY Japanese experience. If you meet a Japanese he might fall of a heart attack because he/she is so hateful. Thats why Japanese would like to go back to a society like 1933 Germany or Japan. A government like that really makes Japanese happy.
mikekk86
QUOTE(esin @ Jan 26 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]3452679[/snapback]
The reason is, Japanese do not like you if you are not Japanese. Infact, they are so loaded with hatred, a hatred so strong that a new word must be imposed to describe the level of hatred ONLY Japanese experience. If you meet a Japanese he might fall of a heart attack because he/she is so hateful. Thats why Japanese would like to go back to a society like 1933 Germany or Japan. A government like that really makes Japanese happy.

We have a pest infection on the forums again.

esin
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tujue
QUOTE(tutudelai @ Jan 25 2008, 04:25 AM) [snapback]3448709[/snapback]
As the matter fact , so far I can understand from this forum , as a lot of people who want to kizz azz and making their own race has somewhat relation with Japanese , I think those losed is plain sick , because this shows how self-abased they really are when confronting the japanese people .

As matter of fact , you dont really have to fabricate something as somewhat racially connect to Japan to ease your self-abased soul , all you need to do is bulit up some diginity courage, and aspriation to work your azz off as to create a utopia of the east which is as refine , classy , prosper and rich as japanese empire .

All the people who here to trumpet some fanatastic tale as Japanese 's relatives is loser , what happend being a proud Chinese , a proud Korean , A proud Mogolian , a proud turkey .

Man , you are disgrace to your great ancestors


haha Turkey sure.gif


loser sure.gif



No body wants to be japanese they Koreans say u fu-kers come from us thats the conection

The chinese, Mongols & Turks all had Empires far greater than the little Island of Japan shrug.gif


But yeah the Media tends to overhype the Samurai and teh ninja, etc.... people get influenced easy
engie
Haha Japan is not all that great once you look past the anime and jpop~!

all the japanophiles at my school are losers >_> maybe that says something.
KimJongIL
When did Koreans ever related themselves to Japanese?

All I can remembered is that it was Japanese who started this connection since they wanted to claim part of Korean peninsula.
mememe
QUOTE(tutudelai @ Jan 24 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]3448709[/snapback]
As the matter fact , so far I can understand from this forum , as a lot of people who want to kizz azz and making their own race has somewhat relation with Japanese , I think those losed is plain sick , because this shows how self-abased they really are when confronting the japanese people .

As matter of fact , you dont really have to fabricate something as somewhat racially connect to Japan to ease your self-abased soul , all you need to do is bulit up some diginity courage, and aspriation to work your azz off as to create a utopia of the east which is as refine , classy , prosper and rich as japanese empire .

All the people who here to trumpet some fanatastic tale as Japanese 's relatives is loser , what happend being a proud Chinese , a proud Korean , A proud Mogolian , a proud turkey .

Man , you are disgrace to your great ancestors



Aren't you the one that always love to start up those threads about Japanese and Chinese in Chinese forum ?
ureshiikolichan
I feel so hated and unloved... =[ cry2.gif

Are we really that bad?
Suijen
QUOTE(ureshiikolichan @ Jan 31 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]3463505[/snapback]
I feel so hated and unloved... =[ cry2.gif

Are we really that bad?


You guys, have like, no butts. Hence the hatred.
mugi-kun
^just ignore it, this is one of the reason i dont come to this forum
Suijen
My brother Mugi shares in our disappointment in the lack of badonka-muthafu-kin-donkadonk.
tutudelai
QUOTE(mememe @ Jan 31 2008, 06:35 AM) [snapback]3462232[/snapback]
Aren't you the one that always love to start up those threads about Japanese and Chinese in Chinese forum ?



No , I write all the subject in chinese chat , define Japanese people is only one of them ,
tacher
At least these guys are honest nazis. They know by honestly confessing, the judge will be lighter when sentencing on their hate crimes. Although they will still be at the mercy of bubba at the end though.
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(tutudelai @ Jan 24 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]3448709[/snapback]
As the matter fact , so far I can understand from this forum , as a lot of people who want to kizz azz and making their own race has somewhat relation with Japanese , I think those losed is plain sick , because this shows how self-abased they really are when confronting the japanese people .

As matter of fact , you dont really have to fabricate something as somewhat racially connect to Japan to ease your self-abased soul , all you need to do is bulit up some diginity courage, and aspriation to work your azz off as to create a utopia of the east which is as refine , classy , prosper and rich as japanese empire .

All the people who here to trumpet some fanatastic tale as Japanese 's relatives is loser , what happend being a proud Chinese , a proud Korean , A proud Mogolian , a proud turkey .

Man , you are disgrace to your great ancestors


* Chinese persecute Uyghurs, Mongolians, Tibetans, and other such minorities. The Chinese also are responsible for devastating weather in the United States such as the severe droughting. This due to them trying to force it to rain in the Gobi Desert around Inner Mongolia and Uyghuristan (better known as East Turkistan). We Taiwanese Chinese are much better than you Mainland Chinese. We don't screw other people up.

* Mongolians had once wiped out entire villages full men, women, and children. Mongolia is also quite under developed in various places.

* Turks are persecuting Arabs, Kurds, Greeks, and Armenians. And most Turks are Greeks, Armenians, or Kurds and don't even realize it, nay I say, their government doesn't want them to realize it.

* North Korea remains as the most totalitarian state on Earth. South Korea is the most likely place to by blown right off the map by North Korea's Dictator.

And as for the Japanese being so proud. They have huge advancements in technology and economy that you might as well care less about. They have their flaws. Extreme levels prejudice and xenophobia. Lack of concern for the world as it maybe. And their own persecution towards Ryukyuans and Ainu. They also had their history of genocide towards Chinese, Filipinos, Samoans, Indonesians, Malaysians, and aboriginal Taiwanese.
film4reel
i'm a little lost. do a lot of people on af have beef against japan or the japanese??
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(film4reel @ Feb 7 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]3480817[/snapback]
i'm a little lost. do a lot of people on af have beef against japan or the japanese??


They are Japanophobic. Probably Chinese, Filipinos, Koreans (most likely), and white people pretending to be asian. I'm Taiwanese. My people were persecuted by Japanese soldiers, but I believe that after the Japanese were nuked, my people's grudge pretty much came to an end as it should be for everyone else.
film4reel
QUOTE(Dark_Goku @ Feb 7 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]3480820[/snapback]
They are Japanophobic. Probably Chinese, Filipinos, Koreans (most likely), and white people pretending to be asian. I'm Taiwanese. My people were persecuted by Japanese soldiers, but I believe that after the Japanese were nuked, my people's grudge pretty much came to an end as it should be for everyone else.


oh...ok. there's not a lot of japanese on this forum anyway....right??
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(film4reel @ Feb 7 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]3480826[/snapback]
oh...ok. there's not a lot of japanese on this forum anyway....right??


Yeah... strangely...

But at least someone is trying to defend the Japanese people from needless racial slurs and hate. Doesn't anyone recall the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings? Sheesh....
film4reel
QUOTE(Dark_Goku @ Feb 7 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]3480832[/snapback]
Yeah... strangely...

But at least someone is trying to defend the Japanese people from needless racial slurs and hate. Doesn't anyone recall the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings? Sheesh....


^^yep.

btw, the name-calling at some point needs to end. it's pointless and a waste of energy.
KimJongIL
QUOTE(Dark_Goku @ Feb 8 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]3480832[/snapback]
Yeah... strangely...

But at least someone is trying to defend the Japanese people from needless racial slurs and hate. Doesn't anyone recall the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings? Sheesh....


Almost no Japanese at this forum.
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(KimJongIL @ Feb 7 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]3480849[/snapback]
Almost no Japanese at this forum.

Let me guess you are Korean and you hate Japanese people.
KimJongIL
QUOTE(Dark_Goku @ Feb 8 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]3480862[/snapback]
Let me guess you are Korean and you hate Japanese people.


Well, I'm North Korean by birth. kiss.gif

Btw, I do have Japanese GF and watch Japanese manga and even eat Japanese foods.
So do I really hate Japaneses?
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(KimJongIL @ Feb 7 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]3480882[/snapback]
Well, I'm North Korean by birth. kiss.gif

Btw, I do have Japanese GF and watch Japanese manga and even eat Japanese foods.
So do I really hate Japaneses?


I don't know... maybe you are in a bad relationship with your gf, happen to be addicted to Japanese Manga, and happen to be addicted to Japanese foods? By the way your gf is your 210th cousin.

I'm just questioning why someone who is non-Japanese would believe that no one Japanese knows of the two atomic blasts. For goodness sakes, they have been pushing that historic fact down America's throat for who knows how long.
film4reel
QUOTE(Dark_Goku @ Feb 7 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]3480923[/snapback]
I don't know... maybe you are in a bad relationship with your gf, happen to be addicted to Japanese Manga, and happen to be addicted to Japanese foods? By the way your gf is your 210th cousin.

I'm just questioning why someone who is non-Japanese would believe that no one Japanese knows of the two atomic blasts. For goodness sakes, they have been pushing that historic fact that America's throat for who knows how long.


+1
Adee
QUOTE(mugi-kun @ Feb 1 2008, 02:55 AM) [snapback]3463512[/snapback]
^just ignore it, this is one of the reason i dont come to this forum

Aaw don't be like that we love you really kiss.gif.
KimJongIL
QUOTE(Dark_Goku @ Feb 8 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]3480923[/snapback]
I don't know... maybe you are in a bad relationship with your gf, happen to be addicted to Japanese Manga, and happen to be addicted to Japanese foods? By the way your gf is your 210th cousin.

I'm just questioning why someone who is non-Japanese would believe that no one Japanese knows of the two atomic blasts. For goodness sakes, they have been pushing that historic fact down America's throat for who knows how long.


Bad relationship????

If I was in bad relationship then I wouldn't even live with her.
210th cousin some what sound wired. Ok, I had sex with my cousin.
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(KimJongIL @ Feb 7 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]3481018[/snapback]
Bad relationship????

If I was in bad relationship then I wouldn't even live with her.
210th cousin some what sound wired. Ok, I had sex with my cousin.


We are all cousins. Even the Chinese are cousins of the Japanese. Just that you would have to go back 12 to 10 thousand years to see such a common ancestor. The common ancestor of Japanese and Koreans can't be any further back than 2 thousand years.

By the way if Chinese and Japanese are 10 to 12 thousand years in difference then the same is true between Koreans and the Chinese. Strange that they live so close, but happen to be so distantly related.
ureshiikolichan
wow...i feel super alone and scared of you people sometimes...and yet i still come on AF....what a wierdo. hahahaha....but there really arent that many japanese people on AF...probably because of the mean people here...im just one odd kid who doesnt mind the pouring of insults!

As for the bombings...i agree, its been a long while, the japanese have backed down. time to stop forcing that on America, it was a terribly bad mistake but its OVER. But than at the same time, America idolizes the bombings of Pearl Harbor, and how terrible it was....keeping the atomic bombs in the face of America, is just a way of defense...in my opinion anyway...
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(ureshiikolichan @ Feb 7 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]3481095[/snapback]
wow...i feel super alone and scared of you people sometimes...and yet i still come on AF....what a wierdo. hahahaha....but there really arent that many japanese people on AF...probably because of the mean people here...im just one odd kid who doesnt mind the pouring of insults!

As for the bombings...i agree, its been a long while, the japanese have backed down. time to stop forcing that on America, it was a terribly bad mistake but its OVER. But than at the same time, America idolizes the bombings of Pearl Harbor, and how terrible it was....keeping the atomic bombs in the face of America, is just a way of defense...in my opinion anyway...


There is a difference between being a civilian and being nuked and being a military officer killed on a ship. Military officers are suppose to give their lives for their country, not the civilians, and certainly not in a nuclear blast.
ureshiikolichan
Thats my point, America makes such a big deal about the bombing of Pearl Harbor, so the Japanese have a right to bring up the atomic bomb. If America would just leave Pearl Harbor as a day of remembrance, not as the BAD japanese bombed us...than the japanese wouldnt have to keep throwing the atomic bomb in the face of America.
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(ureshiikolichan @ Feb 7 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]3481118[/snapback]
Thats my point, America makes such a big deal about the bombing of Pearl Harbor, so the Japanese have a right to bring up the atomic bomb. If America would just leave Pearl Harbor as a day of remembrance, not as the BAD japanese bombed us...than the japanese wouldnt have to keep throwing the atomic bomb in the face of America.



Well if you must know America allowed it self to be attacked and was forcing the Japanese to attack them. I mean the Americans had pretty much taken the harbor of pearls that the Japanese had been using for a very long time (that is why it is called Pearl Harbor). So why isn't it so much of a surpise that America got attacked. Also, it was only on a territory, naval station, and the American had choosen to allow hush up about the advancing Japanese forces that they had ample amount of time to make a defense. So it was America's own fault, probably for being too English and German.

But the Americans may have had a valid reason for wanting to engage in a war with Japan. Look at what Japan was doing at that time in the Philipines, China, Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, Indonesia, Samoa, and Malaysia. As being someone who is Taiwanese, I can safely say that the Japanese did get what they deserved, but that is also why I defend Japan now, because they already got what they deserved. They got nuked. And ever since Japan lost its military strength (pretty much permanently), it has been rather ridiculous to make insults and racial slurs about them.

The real issue now is how poorly Tibetans, Uyghurs, Mongolians, and other ethnicities are being treated in China. And how badly people are still treated in North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and Myanmar. And how the Philipine people can't get along with each other and have an abusive military. The Japanese were the problem before 1945, but ever since then everyone else is the problem.
Gsw
QUOTE(Dark_Goku @ Feb 7 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]3481133[/snapback]
Well if you must know America allowed it self to be attacked and was forcing the Japanese to attack them. I mean the Americans had pretty much taken the harbor of pearls that the Japanese had been using for a very long time (that is why it is called Pearl Harbor). So why isn't it so much of a surpise that America got attacked. Also, it was only on a territory, naval station, and the American had choosen to allow hush up about the advancing Japanese forces that they had ample amount of time to make a defense. So it was America's own fault, probably for being too English and German.

But the Americans may have had a valid reason for wanting to engage in a war with Japan. Look at what Japan was doing at that time in the Philipines, China, Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, Indonesia, Samoa, and Malaysia. As being someone who is Taiwanese, I can safely say that the Japanese did get what they deserved, but that is also why I defend Japan now, because they already got what they deserved. They got nuked. And ever since Japan lost its military strength (pretty much permanently), it has been rather ridiculous to make insults and racial slurs about them.

The real issue now is how poorly Tibetans, Uyghurs, Mongolians, and other ethnicities are being treated in China. And how badly people are still treated in North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and Myanmar. And how the Philipine people can't get along with each other and have an abusive military. The Japanese were the problem before 1945, but ever since then everyone else is the problem.

America allowed itself to be attacked? WTF? And even if it did, should Japan have attacked? And America was forcing Japanese to attack? That's WTF times 3. Pearl Harbor was the native Hawaiian's land and was never part of Japan. Japan attacked because it thought it would defeat America quickly for its raw materials. As with all Japanese agressions, they did it for greed, not for self-defense. It was ONLY on a territory? Are you kidding me? Over 2000 men and women died on December 7, 1941. More like it was the Japanese fault for being so aggressive. The Atomic Bomb was nowhere close to what Japan deserved. Just look at the numbers. With 210,000 killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki compared to MILLIONS killed by Japanese invasions, it's obvious that the number of people that suffered and ultimately died is a greater statistic by leaps and bounds. Also, look at the cities. Japanese destroyed a huge number of important commercial centers, ports, etc. The Japanese forced China, Korea, etc to learn Japanese and use their military money. Did the Japanese have to give up their culture, use the dollar, and learn English after their surrender? NO. The Japanese forced 200,000 Chinese and Koreans to be prostitutes. The Japanese infamously looted, ransacked, and sexually abused the city of Nanjing. Did they have a "Rape of Tokyo"? NO. The The Japanese also got help with the rebuilding by the Americans while the other countries were pretty much on their own. The point is: the Japanese got the better deal at the end and we should not feel sorry for them. Stop sucking up on how they were the victims; they got fair judgment. Japan has lost its military but has not lost the attitude. For example, look at the denial of Japanese war crimes by none other than Tokyo mayor Shintaro Ishihara, who used racial slurs during his campaign. I am not accusing the right-minded Japanese of today. I am just here to say how DARE you blame America for the Pearl Harbor attack and how DARE you defend Japan's aggression on other Asian countries. You are a very sad man.
ureshiikolichan
Dear...i agree that the Japanese have been very greedy and selfish in the past...but so many other countries and empires have done the same...take a look in any history book and there will be the conquering of many places with the killings and forced rapes and postitution of countries everywhere. From BC to now, many European kingdoms have wreaked havoc as the Japanese have, but...the Japanese are getting all the sht, because it has been more recent. how can you say the Japanese did not get what they deserve? NO ONE should ever have to suffer through the effect the atomic bomb had. The bombing may have killed thousands...as bombs normally do, but the after effects were horrendous. My own grandmother was effected by the radiation, and still many are affected even today. It was terrible. and still is. and always will be.
Jagger
QUOTE(Gsw @ Feb 8 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]3482849[/snapback]
America allowed itself to be attacked? WTF? And even if it did, should Japan have attacked? And America was forcing Japanese to attack? That's WTF times 3. Pearl Harbor was the native Hawaiian's land and was never part of Japan. Japan attacked because it thought it would defeat America quickly for its raw materials. As with all Japanese agressions, they did it for greed, not for self-defense. It was ONLY on a territory? Are you kidding me? Over 2000 men and women died on December 7, 1941. More like it was the Japanese fault for being so aggressive. The Atomic Bomb was nowhere close to what Japan deserved. Just look at the numbers. With 210,000 killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki compared to MILLIONS killed by Japanese invasions, it's obvious that the number of people that suffered and ultimately died is a greater statistic by leaps and bounds. Also, look at the cities. Japanese destroyed a huge number of important commercial centers, ports, etc. The Japanese forced China, Korea, etc to learn Japanese and use their military money. Did the Japanese have to give up their culture, use the dollar, and learn English after their surrender? NO. The Japanese forced 200,000 Chinese and Koreans to be prostitutes. The Japanese infamously looted, ransacked, and sexually abused the city of Nanjing. Did they have a "Rape of Tokyo"? NO. The The Japanese also got help with the rebuilding by the Americans while the other countries were pretty much on their own. The point is: the Japanese got the better deal at the end and we should not feel sorry for them. Stop sucking up on how they were the victims; they got fair judgment. Japan has lost its military but has not lost the attitude. For example, look at the denial of Japanese war crimes by none other than Tokyo mayor Shintaro Ishihara, who used racial slurs during his campaign. I am not accusing the right-minded Japanese of today. I am just here to say how DARE you blame America for the Pearl Harbor attack and how DARE you defend Japan's aggression on other Asian countries. You are a very sad man.

No one is defending Japan's attrocities against other Asian countries. The problem here is the irrational hatred many of you feel towards today's Japanese people for something that their ancestors did 60-70 years ago.

Japan got nuked and they got what they deserved. You're right that the number of Japanese victims doesn't come even close to the millions that were slaughtered and raped by the imperial Japanese army, but that does not change the fact that a huge number of Japanese civilians (about half a million) were killed by the atomic bombs, and most of those killed were not even responsible for what the Japanese army did in China, Korea or Southeast Asia.

Are you suggesting that the Japanese should only be forgiven after millions of Japanese civilians have been killed in retribution? If so, just keep in mind: "An eye for an eye will make the whole world go blind." (Mahatma Gandhi)
Gsw
QUOTE(Jagger @ Feb 9 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]3484189[/snapback]
No one is defending Japan's attrocities against other Asian countries. The problem here is the irrational hatred many of you feel towards today's Japanese people for something that their ancestors did 60-70 years ago.

Japan got nuked and they got what they deserved. You're right that the number of Japanese victims doesn't come even close to the millions that were slaughtered and raped by the imperial Japanese army, but that does not change the fact that a huge number of Japanese civilians (about half a million) were killed by the atomic bombs, and most of those killed were not even responsible for what the Japanese army did in China, Korea or Southeast Asia.

Are you suggesting that the Japanese should only be forgiven after millions of Japanese civilians have been killed in retribution? If so, just keep in mind: "An eye for an eye will make the whole world go blind." (Mahatma Gandhi)

Excuse me but that guy was blaming the US for the bombing on pearl harbor. Don't you think that is defending one of Japan's acts of violence? And of course I hate them! My great-grandmother was executed by the Japanese! And if you think about it, 60-70 years ago isn't that long ago since some of those horrible men are in fact still living today and tell lies of how Japan "liberated" Asia.

You're right, innocent people did die in the bombings. However, the people really responsible didn't. So...

Where in my post did I EVER say that we should go bomb Japan back and kill millions? Obviously, you didn't read. My opinion is that Japan didn't get what it deserved. It got an edge after th war so why should I believe Japan got what it deserved?

Forgive and forget: easier said than done. Also it is easier if your past weren't involved in it. If your whole family got killed by a person, you would forgive that person right? I highly doubt it. And if you because an old man and that person is just walking freely on the streets? And what about the people that know that person killed your family and they praise him for it? That's what I thought.

Dark_Goku
Sorry dudes, I can't post that many quotes in one post.

QUOTE(Gsw @ Feb 8 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]3482849[/snapback]
America allowed itself to be attacked? WTF? And even if it did, should Japan have attacked?


Let me think of it. America had cut trade with Japan, took Pearl Harbor from them for nearly or over half a century, and they were competing over control of China. I think yeah Japan had a good enough reason for attacking Pearl Harbor.

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And America was forcing Japanese to attack? That's WTF times 3. Pearl Harbor was the native Hawaiian's land and was never part of Japan.


Wrong. Japan had a pearl harvesting organization that was set up WELL before America took it over for their own ambitious goals. I mean America basically took Hawaii just so they can refuel their boats and get to China. If Hawaii was located in the Indian Ocean, it would be controlled by the British, French, or Portuguese. Because they might have used it to get to India. And if it were located in the Southern Hemisphere of the Pacific, then surely no one would have wanted it except maybe the Spanish and British.

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Japan attacked because it thought it would defeat America quickly for its raw materials.


No that's why they attacked Pearl Harbor at that period of time, that was a strategic reason for the attack, not an overall fundamental reason for attacking America. The reason why they had attacked at all was to get back their Pearl Harvesting Facility and get back at the Americans. You don't understand man, AMerica at that that time and prior to WWII was doing by far more harsh things than the Japanese. The treatment towards Blacks and Native Americans in the United States is unrivaled else where. That was how cruel Americans were. Read up on the Sand Creek and Wounded Knee Massacres.

QUOTE
As with all Japanese agressions, they did it for greed, not for self-defense.


Well it is true that those pearls would cash in a pretty penny. But... America has done a ton of stuff to Japan prior to that time. Japan was indeed aggressive, but hardly as Aggressive as the United States. Nazism comes from the treatment America was doing prior to that time to the Jews, Latinos, Blacks, and Native People.

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It was ONLY on a territory? Are you kidding me? Over 2000 men and women died on December 7, 1941.


All which were service officers, not civilians. A justifiable death. And they were stationed on what was called the Territory of Hawaii. IT WAS A TERRITORY! It didn't become a state until the late nineteen fifties.
Dark_Goku
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The Atomic Bomb was nowhere close to what Japan deserved.


Yes Mr. Flaming Japanese, you are indeed most right. Japan should have never existed. Such a shame the United States didn't let loose with those nukes all throughout the island of Honshu. No althoughout the Japanese Isles. Lets just forget about the Ryukyuans and the Ainu and other people that were innocent bystanders at that time. No... Our hysteria must previal! laugh.gif

QUOTE
Just look at the numbers. With 210,000 killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki compared to MILLIONS killed by Japanese invasions, it's obvious that the number of people that suffered and ultimately died is a greater statistic by leaps and bounds.


Um... it wasn't 210,000 people from just those bombs. You are forgetting about the much more devastating smaller bombings they did to Tokyo (which probably killed a million or so people) and the many, many more people that had died as a result of the Nuclear Bombs. I'm not talking about 210,000 that instantly died. I'm talking about the 2 to 3 million that died years later from radiation poisoning on the outskirts or close enough from the devastation.

Oh and my I say that even after all that time the land is still rich in radiation.

QUOTE
Also, look at the cities. Japanese destroyed a huge number of important commercial centers, ports, etc. The Japanese forced China, Korea, etc to learn Japanese and use their military money.


Yeah I know they did. I'm Taiwanese. You are obviously an @SS.
Dark_Goku
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Did the Japanese have to give up their culture, use the dollar, and learn English after their surrender? NO.


Actually they did, but it wasn't by force. But the way Japan is right now is far more like how United States was prior to WWII than Japan prior to WWII. Japan did Americanized, but they still speak the same language. The truth of the matter is that they gave up a lot of their previous culture to become industrialized and even allowed a good number of christian missionary work into their country. Even though the population is by far Shinto/Buddhist (by the way athiest doesn't count, because America is still largely athiestic, especially in California and New York), you still have good numbers of Japanese Christians. Japan doesn't even have a true military. If Japan ever gets invaded, they are pretty much on their own if America refuses because they've spent so much on the Afghan and Iraqi Wars.

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More like it was the Japanese fault for being so aggressive.


Am I sensing Japanophobia?

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The Japanese forced 200,000 Chinese and Koreans to be prostitutes.


Much more of that is forced on today to Chinese and Korean girls than back then, especially in North Korea. The Sex Trade is much larger than it has ever been before.

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The Japanese infamously looted, ransacked, and sexually abused the city of Nanjing. Did they have a "Rape of Tokyo"? NO.


Would it make you feel any better if they did?

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The Japanese also got help with the rebuilding by the Americans while the other countries were pretty much on their own.


Japan only got America's help, because America felt responsible for the Nukes. America still helped out South Korea. Couldn't manage to help out China, because it turn Maoist. It couldn't help out Vietnam, because it turn Communist. It couldn't help out Myanmar, because they became a military regime. It couldn't help out Cambodia nor Laos, because they were turning Communist. As for the Phillipines. They don't even want American help. They actually made a law declaring it illegal for American military to make any presence on their land. As for Taiwan, for goodness sakes Taiwan was China to Americans until the 1970's, thanks to Nixon.

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The point is: the Japanese got the better deal at the end and we should not feel sorry for them.


Ah... huh... Japanophobia gone wild folks.

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Stop sucking up on how they were the victims; they got fair judgment.


You are a lunatic. I've told you that they got what they deserved.

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Japan has lost its military but has not lost the attitude. For example, look at the denial of Japanese war crimes by none other than Tokyo mayor Shintaro Ishihara, who used racial slurs during his campaign. I am not accusing the right-minded Japanese of today.


You know it is your own fault any hoot. Damn man, why the hell do you even care of what some mayor says. We all know that every mayor is nothing more than a bag of dirt. Take the former New York Mayor, Giuliani. That man supposively clean up New York and was there during 9/11, stop the firefighters from saving anymore victims from the incident after they cleared out all the gold that was buried. Okay, don't bring up any mayors okay. I don't care what country they come from, they are all douchebags for as far I'm concerned.

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I am just here to say how DARE you blame America for the Pearl Harbor attack


I would consider you read up on how America gain control of Hawaii and started the Spanish American War, before you speak to me again.

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and how DARE you defend Japan's aggression on other Asian countries. You are a very sad man.


What's sad is the fact that you still hold such a horrible grudge against them even after more than half a century has passed. Even after a good majority of those that were alived back then are either dead or on the verge of death. Now tell me who's the sad little Asian man, because it certainly isn't me. At least I acknowledge they got what they deserved.
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(ureshiikolichan @ Feb 8 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]3484032[/snapback]
Dear...i agree that the Japanese have been very greedy and selfish in the past...but so many other countries and empires have done the same...take a look in any history book and there will be the conquering of many places with the killings and forced rapes and postitution of countries everywhere. From BC to now, many European kingdoms have wreaked havoc as the Japanese have, but...the Japanese are getting all the sht, because it has been more recent. how can you say the Japanese did not get what they deserve? NO ONE should ever have to suffer through the effect the atomic bomb had. The bombing may have killed thousands...as bombs normally do, but the after effects were horrendous. My own grandmother was effected by the radiation, and still many are affected even today. It was terrible. and still is. and always will be.



You are indeed quite right, but Japan did got what they deserved. It is just that... that was it in what they had deserved. Any bit more would tip the scale and make Japan by far more so the victim.

You know, if people really hate Japan so much, why not just throw jokes about how Japan has no military rather than make cheap insults and racial slurs. It is better to laugh than it is stay mad and full of rage and fury.
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(Gsw @ Feb 9 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]3485065[/snapback]
Excuse me but that guy was blaming the US for the bombing on pearl harbor. Don't you think that is defending one of Japan's acts of violence? And of course I hate them! My great-grandmother was executed by the Japanese! And if you think about it, 60-70 years ago isn't that long ago since some of those horrible men are in fact still living today and tell lies of how Japan "liberated" Asia.

You're right, innocent people did die in the bombings. However, the people really responsible didn't. So...

Where in my post did I EVER say that we should go bomb Japan back and kill millions? Obviously, you didn't read. My opinion is that Japan didn't get what it deserved. It got an edge after th war so why should I believe Japan got what it deserved?

Forgive and forget: easier said than done. Also it is easier if your past weren't involved in it. If your whole family got killed by a person, you would forgive that person right? I highly doubt it. And if you because an old man and that person is just walking freely on the streets? And what about the people that know that person killed your family and they praise him for it? That's what I thought.


You need to study some American History before you speak. America has been pursuing to be involved in any war they can to make profit. Should I have to go over with you the Spanish American War, which was a self-made catastrophe and heightened by propaganda in the papers to drive America into war against the Spanish. They did the same with WWII, except that the Japanese did actually attack America. And they did the same thing not too long ago with the trade towers. Do you wanna make a bet that Bush did or didn't knew if the al-Queda terrorists were or weren't going to crash two planes into them towers? America is too racist and pig-headed to be given any sympathy. The only reason why anyone cares is because America is their dawg, their police, and much of America's produce are shipped over seas into Asia and Europe. If it weren't for that, you wouldn't even care, unless you live there and still why would you unless you were white? Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans, Jews, Catholics, Mormons, the Irish, Wiccans, Athiests, and Italians were treated most horrible there. Even the French Americans had their share of discrimination in New York and Maine. Just read about the Sand Creek Massacre and about the persecution towards Chinese Americans.
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QUOTE(Gsw @ Feb 9 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]3485065[/snapback]
Excuse me but that guy was blaming the US for the bombing on pearl harbor. Don't you think that is defending one of Japan's acts of violence? And of course I hate them! My great-grandmother was executed by the Japanese! And if you think about it, 60-70 years ago isn't that long ago since some of those horrible men are in fact still living today and tell lies of how Japan "liberated" Asia.

You're right, innocent people did die in the bombings. However, the people really responsible didn't. So...

Where in my post did I EVER say that we should go bomb Japan back and kill millions? Obviously, you didn't read. My opinion is that Japan didn't get what it deserved. It got an edge after th war so why should I believe Japan got what it deserved?

Forgive and forget: easier said than done. Also it is easier if your past weren't involved in it. If your whole family got killed by a person, you would forgive that person right? I highly doubt it. And if you because an old man and that person is just walking freely on the streets? And what about the people that know that person killed your family and they praise him for it? That's what I thought.


ok dearie...im trying not to care, but i just feel that you are being narrowminded and very rude. For one...if some guy killed my whole entire family of course i would never forgive him. He took my whole family, but that doesnt mean id hate his kids and his grandkids for something HE did. His children/grandchildren or the rest of his fmaily for that matter, did NOT tell him, murder that kids family...they had no part in it. The hating Japanese people is the same concept...it would be one thing to hate the Japanese military of that time, but its a wholw other and incorrect thing to hate a whole race of people for something they had no part in. Should i hate America for inadvertantly killing my grandmother through radiation (mind you that was my GRAMMA not my GREAT gramma)...no. The people i go to school with had nothing to do with the bombing....hating a whole group of people is completely pointless as many of those people are not the extremists that you group them with...

I realluse we are each entitled to out own opinion but i just feel its time for you to be a little more openminded...
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(ureshiikolichan @ Feb 9 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]3485602[/snapback]
ok dearie...im trying not to care, but i just feel that you are being narrowminded and very rude. For one...if some guy killed my whole entire family of course i would never forgive him. He took my whole family, but that doesnt mean id hate his kids and his grandkids for something HE did. His children/grandchildren or the rest of his fmaily for that matter, did NOT tell him, murder that kids family...they had no part in it. The hating Japanese people is the same concept...it would be one thing to hate the Japanese military of that time, but its a wholw other and incorrect thing to hate a whole race of people for something they had no part in. Should i hate America for inadvertantly killing my grandmother through radiation (mind you that was my GRAMMA not my GREAT gramma)...no. The people i go to school with had nothing to do with the bombing....hating a whole group of people is completely pointless as many of those people are not the extremists that you group them with...

I realluse we are each entitled to out own opinion but i just feel its time for you to be a little more openminded...



What I would like to understand is why is he even here to begin with. He'll never promote anything but flame wars with his indefinitely racial attitude.
alfredelu
Gross! stop copying everything from Japanese, Otaku!
Dark_Goku
QUOTE(alfredelu @ Feb 9 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]3485945[/snapback]
Gross! stop copying everything from Japanese, Otaku!


Who are you talking to?
ureshiikolichan
QUOTE(Dark_Goku @ Feb 9 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]3485795[/snapback]
What I would like to understand is why is he even here to begin with. He'll never promote anything but flame wars with his indefinitely racial attitude.


Yup...which is why im not caring. =]

And who is he ^ talking to?????
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