how did you feel about tom criuse learning the ways of the sword and leading the last samurai

personally, i was offended...but that's just me.

Worst film ever.

typically whiteman self-fantasy

Haters.

Probably one of my favourite movies ever. Definitely my favourite Cruise flick.

Cruise's character felt that Japanese society (at least the code of the Samurai) was superior to America.

that moive is silly and stupid , which is not worth a penny

it must've left a legacy in your hearts because that movie was made 5 years ago, and you ppl are still thinking about it.

Last Samurai wasn't exactly pro-american or pro-white but in fact the opposite, he did betray his own white masters to fight alongside the samurai ffs - I don't see why you people would be offended by it

In fact, I would have thought the movie will raise new nationalist pride within yourselves instead but strangely nope.

the original title was dances with japanese

^^

Tom cruise didn't lead the samurai tbh


better than Arnold schwatzerneger

i prefer when he teach his wife the way to be a good scientologist....

i'm not japanese so it didn't really bother me, but hollywood is rediculous..the last samurai=a white guy, the last mohican= awhite guy, the mexican=a white guy


yeah but ain't that fuked up that a white man killed one of the last samurai's, had sex with his wife,learned his culture, and took his place to defend his people..i

someone told me that the lead japanese guy dies and tom bangs the guy's wife? is that true? if so......dam.

its true

The Battle scenes was actually good...
The funny thing is that they shot at tom cruise like 5 times and he didn't die but when they shot the Japaneses they all went down..

thats because they wanted him to be the "last samurai"

I touch myself to that movie.

dumbest idea ever. wheres the movie on the last cowboy who is asian? or the last english queen who is black.

Personally I believe that The Last Samurai is a very nice movie.


Welcome to Hollywood. It is obvious that Hollywood represents Americans of White European origins.


Nice one.

oh gosh i found his role extremely funny in that movie
the way he was trying to find his inner tranquility and his deep reverence for the ways of the sword..
just doesnt suit the tom cruise i know. xD

That's so true. It wasn't exactly Risky Business, was it. BTW: Just regarding a few of the previous posts about Cruise actually being the supposed Last Samurai, I beg to differ. If you watch that final charge on horseback with swords against new Japanese cannons and firearms, I wonder if it was actually the other actor, (name not remembered) who was the last Samurai, and I believe that his skin was rather white, although it would have appeared that he was more resemblant of a Japanese. The big tall guy who was there throughotu the movie. He was the last Samurai. When that young bloke, the archer, was killed it was rather a sad moment, but it was so long ago that I saw the movie.

All I recall were the good bits, but I don't think that Cruise himself was the character playing the title role, but the movie was about the importation of gunpowder to Japan by the cunning and devious Japanese who were intent on destroying the Samurai to gain power with European weaponry. That was why the movie was called The Last Samurai. Cruise wasn't that. He got there jsut as the party was coming to an end. He was a rookie.

I wasn't offended, I just thought the ending was stupid.

The guy with the least training survives whilst all the people with years of training die, just because that guy is Tom Cruise.

He should have sacrificed himself for Japan at the end in a Kamikaze attack against the US fleet.

the tom criuse i know believe we were created by alein spirits and one day we'll all live among the stars...

thats what I didnt like about that movie, the white guy with the least training wins, all the samurai die and tommy cruise survives the battle

Last Samurai movie was pure Whiteman's fantasy.

A guy who think Alien invaded earth thousands of years ago and infected us with virus, surely has issue.

the movie was good i enjoyed it

Great movie.

If you didn't like it then @#$& you!

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I liked the movie tho'.

be quiet sir...


all those who 'enjoyed' the movie need to take a japanese history course....seriously!

i didn't really think about the movie after i watched it...but every japanese person i know hates that movie lol

get ready to see the monkey king as played by a white teenager.



asians should make a movie where a goat herder comes to the states and leads the union to victory at the battle of gettysburg.

It is OK for Tom Cruise to be a samurai but not OK for Asians to be in a movie about Abraham Lincoln?

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversio...php/t16496.html

White man killed one of the last samurais? Hmmm, well he did but it was Seppuku wasnt it?
Had sex with his wife? What? I gotta watch that movie again - because I'm sure he didnt
Learned his culture? What's wrong with that? I'm a Japanophile at times too
Took his place to defend his people? No he was just a tagalong that managed to survive (ie movie)

Bah, its a good movie for what its worth

Done in true Hollywood style. Vastly entertaining. But... it's Hollywood... with N. Americans at the helm... yeah.

this is so off topic, but every time i see your id i want to eat a taco.

taco est muy delicioso.

I learned something important from this movie. I learned that the last samurai was in fact, a white guy.

Not really, if anyone is going to watch The Last Samurai and hope to come out with a good amount of accurate info then they're idiotic in the first place. No one with a brain watches such movies for that reason.

It was decent apart from the ending.

takashi is the last samurai of japanese chat

Who produced the Japanese version of this story? The authentic version without Tom Cruise and proper research into factual Japanese historical records? Can anyone give us the name of the producer and the Japanese production cmpany, as well as the cast?

Where can I find a website about The Last Samurai but not the Hollywood version which was obviously badly cast with actors of the wrong race (well some of them) and producers and crew that were just not up-to-date on Japan. When was the official Japanese version relseased, and where can I get it out on video? What name do I ask for at the shop? I liked the Hollywood version so much, I'd really like to see the real version that many people are talking about. What is it called, and does it have subtitles?

From a movie critic's POV, this must be a propaganda scheme planned, funded and manufactured by Japan and Japanese agents. Just like how Grave of Fireflies anime was made by Japanese secret government agents to whitewash history so is last samurai.

I see that the way Bushido glorfying suicide as a negative thing. Seppuku is a total waste of life and not allowing the enemy to surrender is just pure nonsense. Japan needs to view more positively of life, such a waste.

It takes more courage to live and atone for shame and defeat than to commit seppuku. Also many forgot that its their so called "great samurai spirit" is what drives them to genocide.

You know a manga or anime is made and funded by Japanese black-ops underground by its biased nature.

...and those that watched and enjoyed brave heart, the passion of the christ, pearl harbor, and pretty much all movies done american or otherwise. it's pathetic to think that movies should be the source of historical facts. its entertainment. nothing more northing less.

another hollywood movie accurate to history..

only thing i remember from that movie is when that japanese general said " we have made a grave mistake, we woke up a sleeping giant"

then if hollywood want to LIE then they need to put a disclaimer at the beginning of the film.

My friend Mussa remarked that history is written by the victors.

I was doing a bit of research for the Suharto Indonesian topic when I found an article by a journalist reviewing a movie about Dutch colonialism.
I wanted to post this passage here because it is also very much relevant to this topic and it clearly expresses what some of us are feeling about The Last Samurai with Tom Cruise as the moral saviour.
"I'm usually frustrated that most films about colonial oppression view the drama from the position of the lone moral European (invariably a white male) who stands up against his own race to defend the native peoples. It's as if the privileged white man's defiance is more heroic because he risks position and wealth where the natives merely risk their lives in the face of tyranny and crippling poverty."
When I was watching The Last Samurai, it was this aspect which annoyed me a bit.
I am always a sucker for heroic blockbusters, but my enjoyment was nagged by some elements which did not ring true - the unlikely relationship between Cruise and the wife of the samurai whom he killed and the simplistic way the children accept him as a replacement father figure, the homogenising and sanitising of the Samurai, the imposition of contemporary lifestyle values on a fuedal society, Cruise's uncanny ability to survive bullets and cannons while the other Samurai perish......

I love big epics.
I don't know if it is just a "boy thing", but I really like those sweeping epics of great change, emotional turmoil, large-scale action, and characters who rise to the challenge of a complex world. And maybe something about the Human condition is illustrated along the way. I am too old for simple Disney resolutions. If pop culture is my daily brain food, then I want to get a balanced diet.

Fair enough, but too much headcandy gonna make your brain rot.
Why accept low grade fodder, if we can demand something more tasty ?
I enjoy action movies.
I don't want to label it a guilty pleasure, because in my experience it is just part of Human nature and to deny it would be artificial and über politically correct. At the same time it would be wise to bear in mind that our cultural mindsets are gradually shaped by the pop culture we consume.
If we don't believe that, then we had better tell the advertising boys to stop wasting millions of dollar$ on their candycoated propaganda.
I think we can all agree that movies should not be expected to replace a good education, but I would urge you to consider that movies represent more than just entertainment.
Movies are such a pervasive and influential medium.
Even in the jungles of Borneo they have movies.
Movies shape the perceptions of our young.
Movies are part of our cultural legacy; they portray our pleasures; our aspirations; our fears; our art and literature; our history.
And if that history is continually portrayed with a subtle bias, then sections of our next generation may accept that slant as part of their normal attitude.

I love movies and I want to see more.