Several southern provinces will become the first Autonomous Region that will be established when the AR bill is passed.
For those who dont know what it is?
Read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Re...Muslim_Mindanao
The term that the newly democratically elected gpvernment under the patronage of Thakky is using is "Autonomous Region based on religion".
So, I guess there will be tons of autonomous regions after this one.
Thank you, PPP.
Full Version: Thailand to set up "Autonomous Region of Muslim"
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FAR SOUTH / NEW MINISTER'S THOUGHTS, DAILY UNREST
Chalerm: Some form of autonomy possible
Consideration will be given to setting up an autonomous area in the far South, using models adapted from China or Germany, as a means of redressing the violence in the region, Interior Minister Chalerm Yubamrung yesterday.
''I am looking for new solutions. The violence must be reduced,'' he said.
''I haven't decided on granting autonomy, but a communist nation like China allows Xinjiang to be an autonomous region with its own elections.
''Funds are allocated to the region and there is no fighting there.
This also happens in Germany, where they have their own budget and elections.
''I will see if any of the formulas being used in these two countries can be applied in the South,'' the new interior minister said.
Finding a solution to the unrest in the deep South was a priority of his government. He was also looking into ways of generating real unity among local administrators, soldiers and police in the region. Former prime minister Surayud Chulanont had said government officials there were disunited.
Mr Chalerm said his first steps would include talks with the governors of the five southern-most provinces, assistant national police chief Pol Lt-Gen Adul Saengsingkaew, chief of the southern police outposts in Yala, Pattani and Narathiwat provinces, and the director of the Southern Border Provinces Administration Centre (SBPAC).
He would use the information he obtained when discussing the issue with military leaders.
Mr Chalerm made it clear he was not planning to dissolve the SBPAC, as has been speculated, but would support its operation so that a lasting solution to the region's problems could be found.Citing his past experience, he insisted that he was a capable minister and especially suited for security affairs.
''I started security-related work when I was 25-26 years old. I used to work in investigation and crime suppression and handled important cases,'' the former police captain said.
He would rely on intelligence gathering and integrated strategies in his efforts to bring normalcy back to the troubled region.
In Yala, four border patrol police officemen were wounded in an ambush in Than To district yesterday afternoon. They were attacked while patrolling the Bannang Kajae-Ban Buathong Tai road.
They were taken to Yala Regional Hospital.
One of them was said to be in critical condition.
In Narathiwat, police yesterday arrested three men for possession of 3,260 methamphetamine pills, two 9mm pistols and 125 bullets in Bacho district.
They were identified as Masoray Hayeelording, 42, Aleeya Waehama, 48, and Afandee Madeng, 22.
Mr Masoray was a member of a volunteer defence force and a local singer, police said.
Chalerm: Some form of autonomy possible
Consideration will be given to setting up an autonomous area in the far South, using models adapted from China or Germany, as a means of redressing the violence in the region, Interior Minister Chalerm Yubamrung yesterday.
''I am looking for new solutions. The violence must be reduced,'' he said.
''I haven't decided on granting autonomy, but a communist nation like China allows Xinjiang to be an autonomous region with its own elections.
''Funds are allocated to the region and there is no fighting there.
This also happens in Germany, where they have their own budget and elections.
''I will see if any of the formulas being used in these two countries can be applied in the South,'' the new interior minister said.
Finding a solution to the unrest in the deep South was a priority of his government. He was also looking into ways of generating real unity among local administrators, soldiers and police in the region. Former prime minister Surayud Chulanont had said government officials there were disunited.
Mr Chalerm said his first steps would include talks with the governors of the five southern-most provinces, assistant national police chief Pol Lt-Gen Adul Saengsingkaew, chief of the southern police outposts in Yala, Pattani and Narathiwat provinces, and the director of the Southern Border Provinces Administration Centre (SBPAC).
He would use the information he obtained when discussing the issue with military leaders.
Mr Chalerm made it clear he was not planning to dissolve the SBPAC, as has been speculated, but would support its operation so that a lasting solution to the region's problems could be found.Citing his past experience, he insisted that he was a capable minister and especially suited for security affairs.
''I started security-related work when I was 25-26 years old. I used to work in investigation and crime suppression and handled important cases,'' the former police captain said.
He would rely on intelligence gathering and integrated strategies in his efforts to bring normalcy back to the troubled region.
In Yala, four border patrol police officemen were wounded in an ambush in Than To district yesterday afternoon. They were attacked while patrolling the Bannang Kajae-Ban Buathong Tai road.
They were taken to Yala Regional Hospital.
One of them was said to be in critical condition.
In Narathiwat, police yesterday arrested three men for possession of 3,260 methamphetamine pills, two 9mm pistols and 125 bullets in Bacho district.
They were identified as Masoray Hayeelording, 42, Aleeya Waehama, 48, and Afandee Madeng, 22.
Mr Masoray was a member of a volunteer defence force and a local singer, police said.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/12Feb2008_news07.php
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QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 11 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]3492006[/snapback]
Several southern provinces will become the first Autonomous Region that will be established when the AR bill is passed.
For those who dont know what it is?
Read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Re...Muslim_Mindanao
The term that the newly democratically elected gpvernment under the patronage of Thakky is using is "Autonomous Region based on religion".
So, I guess there will be tons of autonomous regions after this one.
Thank you, PPP.
For those who dont know what it is?
Read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Re...Muslim_Mindanao
The term that the newly democratically elected gpvernment under the patronage of Thakky is using is "Autonomous Region based on religion".
So, I guess there will be tons of autonomous regions after this one.
Thank you, PPP.
That would be very interesting if that would happened. However, I know the Thai government would not let such things happen.
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 12 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]3492006[/snapback]
Several southern provinces will become the first Autonomous Region that will be established when the AR bill is passed.
For those who dont know what it is?
Read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Re...Muslim_Mindanao
The term that the newly democratically elected gpvernment under the patronage of Thakky is using is "Autonomous Region based on religion".
So, I guess there will be tons of autonomous regions after this one.
Thank you, PPP.
For those who dont know what it is?
Read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Re...Muslim_Mindanao
The term that the newly democratically elected gpvernment under the patronage of Thakky is using is "Autonomous Region based on religion".
So, I guess there will be tons of autonomous regions after this one.
Thank you, PPP.
i hope to god it doesnt happen. its just segregation. and my country is segregated and it sucks. and it breeds hatred. and every other religion will want the same.....no its a bad idea/
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...Thailand Weighs Self-Rule for South...
...While conceding that some degree of self-rule in the south "is a possibility," Interior Minister Chalerm Yoobambrung said independence for the region was out of the question....
...Srisompob Jitpiromsri, a political scientist at Prince of Songkhla University in Pattani, said 55 people were killed and 100 injured in January, compared to 27 people killed and 37 injured in December....
...Chalerm said intelligence suggested the militants are planning to expand their violent campaign to southern Thailand's tourist and commercial hub, Hat Yai, in Songkhla province. ...
...Thailand Weighs Self-Rule for South...
...While conceding that some degree of self-rule in the south "is a possibility," Interior Minister Chalerm Yoobambrung said independence for the region was out of the question....
...Srisompob Jitpiromsri, a political scientist at Prince of Songkhla University in Pattani, said 55 people were killed and 100 injured in January, compared to 27 people killed and 37 injured in December....
...Chalerm said intelligence suggested the militants are planning to expand their violent campaign to southern Thailand's tourist and commercial hub, Hat Yai, in Songkhla province. ...
This plan is retard ,ministry Chalerm not understand about the southerner situation enough. I am sure even the Autonomous region is found ,the problem still on going. Those terrorist is not like liberal force that do the favor for people ,all they want is putting people in fear. Only way is to made people cooperate with the goverment steadily ,its cant implement new things over night.Shout the policy out loud is the habit of PPP ,but this time its wasn't not a good idea.
@ khun anatta, i thought u had wanted the south to obtain self-rule should they still desire it... what's your position now??
Lol this is coming from the interior minister, Chalerm, alone. It has not been discussed with the government and the PM. Samakk himself even told Chalerm that this issue should be talked behind closed doors.
It was only Chalerm's part on this idea. No plan or such agenda about this is yet to be implemented.
Get your fact right. Thaksin's weakling!!
It was only Chalerm's part on this idea. No plan or such agenda about this is yet to be implemented.
Get your fact right. Thaksin's weakling!!
QUOTE(tangawizi @ Feb 14 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]3497212[/snapback]
@ khun anatta, i thought u had wanted the south to obtain self-rule should they still desire it... what's your position now??
Khun tanga. it is very complicated issue for me to be really serious about it. It is very personal and emotional too.
Me, I deeply wish for peace and love for all thais no matter what their religions are.
However, bBecause of the ways that the then Thaksin gov handle the southernmost province problem, I thought it was best for everyone ,especially muslim southerners and teachers, if the insurgents get what they wanted.
The last gov which was installed by the coup makers did some pretty good job in restoring trust between the gov officials and the people there. There were bombings and killing but in smaller scale and less frequent. If more time, money and man power were given, we would see an obvious improvement.
The current gov? It is no diffrent from the last Thaksin gov. Same school of thinking. Same ideology(no ideology actually). Same mindset.
The south deserves the independence or not solely depends on how this gov see the problem.
If Thaksin and his people have not changed their attitudes toward the souhterners, Thailand should let the resource-rich south go.
Why? Because.
1. This gov will stay full term. You know why.
2. PPP will be elected again and again and again. You know why.
3.And without the south, there will virtually no oppositions in the parliament.
Khun Tanga. I have a feeling that the full independence or at least autonomous region of muslim south will be established in this administration.
Confuse? please ask more questions and be more specific.
cheers,
QUOTE(DekThai101 @ Feb 14 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]3497238[/snapback]
Lol this is coming from the interior minister, Chalerm, alone. It has not been discussed with the government and the PM. Samakk himself even told Chalerm that this issue should be talked behind closed doors.
It was only Chalerm's part on this idea. No plan or such agenda about this is yet to be implemented.
Get your fact right. Thaksin's weakling!!
It was only Chalerm's part on this idea. No plan or such agenda about this is yet to be implemented.
Get your fact right. Thaksin's weakling!!
Are you telling me that I should take the interior minister's words for granted?
He IS the Interior Minister for fu-king sake!
Could he have spoken without carefully thought?No.
The guy must have spent sleepless nights thinking about the issue.
So when he was asked by a reporter, he proudly told them his solution to the problem.
Again, repeat .He IS the fu-king Interior Minister of thailand.
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 14 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]3497717[/snapback]
Are you telling me that I should take the interior minister's words for granted?
He IS the Interior Minister for fu-king sake!
Could he have spoken without carefully thought?No.
The guy must have spent sleepless nights thinking about the issue.
So when he was asked by a reporter, he proudly told them his solution to the problem.
Again, repeat .He IS the fu-king Interior Minister of thailand.
He IS the Interior Minister for fu-king sake!
Could he have spoken without carefully thought?No.
The guy must have spent sleepless nights thinking about the issue.
So when he was asked by a reporter, he proudly told them his solution to the problem.
Again, repeat .He IS the fu-king Interior Minister of thailand.
Let me say it again, the aftermath of his comment made in public was soon corrected by the PM, Mr. Samak. The PM wasn't so pleasant with the interior minister's fast track to the solution, reason being is the issue has not been discussed with the rest of the cabinet on pros and cons. More importantly referendum will definitely arise upon this option whether or not the nation as a whole likes the idea.
You kept saying "He is an interior minister, for fcuk sake!!", yes HE IS ==> meaning he has limited power on his hands. Plus he had never been an interior minister EVER. That's why this issue should be discussed before hand within the government prior to making any public comment. It is a sensitive and security concerned issue. He as a policeman and laws graduate should know better. Why did I get all worked up? I'll tell you why, it's because he, the interior minister, has yet to talk to the experts in the area of study, but he dared suggesting that option without doing any research, discussion and pros/cons weighting.
Plus your thread's title is misleading "To set up"??? As I said no such solution is yet to be implemented, let alone decided. They've just started studying this sensitive issue and are looking for most suited pathway to ending the terrorism in the deep south.
Looks like it works in china, so it can be don in siam. 
QUOTE(DekThai101 @ Feb 15 2008, 01:19 AM) [snapback]3498049[/snapback]
Let me say it again, the aftermath of his comment made in public was soon corrected by the PM, Mr. Samak. The PM wasn't so pleasant with the interior minister's fast track to the solution, reason being is the issue has not been discussed with the rest of the cabinet on pros and cons. More importantly referendum will definitely arise upon this option whether or not the nation as a whole likes the idea.
You kept saying "He is an interior minister, for fcuk sake!!", yes HE IS ==> meaning he has limited power on his hands. Plus he had never been an interior minister EVER. That's why this issue should be discussed before hand within the government prior to making any public comment. It is a sensitive and security concerned issue. He as a policeman and laws graduate should know better. Why did I get all worked up? I'll tell you why, it's because he, the interior minister, has yet to talk to the experts in the area of study, but he dared suggesting that option without doing any research, discussion and pros/cons weighting.
Plus your thread's title is misleading "To set up"??? As I said no such solution is yet to be implemented, let alone decided. They've just started studying this sensitive issue and are looking for most suited pathway to ending the terrorism in the deep south.
You kept saying "He is an interior minister, for fcuk sake!!", yes HE IS ==> meaning he has limited power on his hands. Plus he had never been an interior minister EVER. That's why this issue should be discussed before hand within the government prior to making any public comment. It is a sensitive and security concerned issue. He as a policeman and laws graduate should know better. Why did I get all worked up? I'll tell you why, it's because he, the interior minister, has yet to talk to the experts in the area of study, but he dared suggesting that option without doing any research, discussion and pros/cons weighting.
Plus your thread's title is misleading "To set up"??? As I said no such solution is yet to be implemented, let alone decided. They've just started studying this sensitive issue and are looking for most suited pathway to ending the terrorism in the deep south.
o.k. got it.
next time when the interior minister of Thailand says anything, i will wait for samak's approve
the interior minister has limited power? yes and no
yes, because he can't do anything outside his ministry authority
no, because he is the fu-king interior minister who is directly responsible for the deep south problem
none of this gov ministers have experience/qualification in their jobs
should i not trust them running this country too?
i already told you that as the interior minister, mr ubumroong must have had spent sleepless nights thinking about the south
so when he was asked he proudly told the reporters his perfect solution straight away
are you trying to tell me that people should not give a $hit what the guy is saying
i love this gov so much
because of its ministers, i now see the future of thailand
i don't see the south, the whole south, is part of that thailand
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 15 2008, 06:24 AM) [snapback]3498565[/snapback]
o.k. got it.
next time when the interior minister of Thailand says anything, i will wait for samak's approve
the interior minister has limited power? yes and no
yes, because he can't do anything outside his ministry authority
no, because he is the fu-king interior minister who is directly responsible for the deep south problem
none of this gov ministers have experience/qualification in their jobs
should i not trust them running this country too?
i already told you that as the interior minister, mr ubumroong must have had spent sleepless nights thinking about the south
so when he was asked he proudly told the reporters his perfect solution straight away
are you trying to tell me that people should not give a $hit what the guy is saying
i love this gov so much
because of its ministers, i now see the future of thailand
i don't see the south, the whole south, is part of that thailand
next time when the interior minister of Thailand says anything, i will wait for samak's approve
the interior minister has limited power? yes and no
yes, because he can't do anything outside his ministry authority
no, because he is the fu-king interior minister who is directly responsible for the deep south problem
none of this gov ministers have experience/qualification in their jobs
should i not trust them running this country too?
i already told you that as the interior minister, mr ubumroong must have had spent sleepless nights thinking about the south
so when he was asked he proudly told the reporters his perfect solution straight away
are you trying to tell me that people should not give a $hit what the guy is saying
i love this gov so much
because of its ministers, i now see the future of thailand
i don't see the south, the whole south, is part of that thailand
You just proved me right, exactly. Newly assigned as an interior minister, how long has it been? Apparently 2 weeks max. And you think he has spent sleepless nights and successfully drawn the conclusion to Deep South with a perfect solution? I hope you're kidding.
Quoted "none of this gov ministers have experience/qualification in their jobs should i not trust them running this country too?"
Let's take Chalerm's speech for a study case; He has not discussed and weighted pros and cons with the cabinet and respective experts in the area of study. However he blatantly suggested a solution to the 3 southernmost provinces' problem on his own. It's like you ask someone what is 500 divinded by 2.75 equal to. The answer you get is I think this and that even before doing the calculation.
Quoted "the interior minister has limited power? yes and no...
yes, because he can't do anything outside his ministry authority...
no, because he is the fu-king interior minister who is directly responsible for the deep south problem"
I'll say it again the interior minister does have a limited power, meaning he cannot decide on such an important national matter on his own @$$ alone. He needs to talk it out with the experts, cabinet and more importantly the PM. What you're saying is "oh hey I'm an interior minister, I don't have to give a $hit what the PM thinks on this national concerned matter. I'll do what I damn well please."
That's correct, he is directly responsible for the problem, and that's why he needs to be more careful on what he says to the media. You don't take the Thai by storm just like that.
Quoted "are you trying to tell me that people should not give a $hit what the guy is saying"
Dude, I'm giving a $hit about what he says. That's why I'm all worked up. You should too. Though you seem to have liken his solution very much.
You don't see the south, no, the whole south, as a part of Thailand? That's coming from a Thai? cuz that's so unThai.
We do have our say, so use it wisely!
QUOTE(DekThai101 @ Feb 15 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]3499865[/snapback]
You just proved me right, exactly. Newly assigned as an interior minister, how long has it been? Apparently 2 weeks max. And you think he has spent sleepless nights and successfully drawn the conclusion to Deep South with a perfect solution? I hope you're kidding.
Quoted "none of this gov ministers have experience/qualification in their jobs should i not trust them running this country too?"
Let's take Chalerm's speech for a study case; He has not discussed and weighted pros and cons with the cabinet and respective experts in the area of study. However he blatantly suggested a solution to the 3 southernmost provinces' problem on his own. It's like you ask someone what is 500 divinded by 2.75 equal to. The answer you get is I think this and that even before doing the calculation.
Quoted "the interior minister has limited power? yes and no...
yes, because he can't do anything outside his ministry authority...
no, because he is the fu-king interior minister who is directly responsible for the deep south problem"
I'll say it again the interior minister does have a limited power, meaning he cannot decide on such an important national matter on his own @$$ alone. He needs to talk it out with the experts, cabinet and more importantly the PM. What you're saying is "oh hey I'm an interior minister, I don't have to give a $hit what the PM thinks on this national concerned matter. I'll do what I damn well please."
That's correct, he is directly responsible for the problem, and that's why he needs to be more careful on what he says to the media. You don't take the Thai by storm just like that.
Quoted "are you trying to tell me that people should not give a $hit what the guy is saying"
Dude, I'm giving a $hit about what he says. That's why I'm all worked up. You should too. Though you seem to have liken his solution very much.
You don't see the south, no, the whole south, as a part of Thailand? That's coming from a Thai? cuz that's so unThai.
We do have our say, so use it wisely!
Quoted "none of this gov ministers have experience/qualification in their jobs should i not trust them running this country too?"
Let's take Chalerm's speech for a study case; He has not discussed and weighted pros and cons with the cabinet and respective experts in the area of study. However he blatantly suggested a solution to the 3 southernmost provinces' problem on his own. It's like you ask someone what is 500 divinded by 2.75 equal to. The answer you get is I think this and that even before doing the calculation.
Quoted "the interior minister has limited power? yes and no...
yes, because he can't do anything outside his ministry authority...
no, because he is the fu-king interior minister who is directly responsible for the deep south problem"
I'll say it again the interior minister does have a limited power, meaning he cannot decide on such an important national matter on his own @$$ alone. He needs to talk it out with the experts, cabinet and more importantly the PM. What you're saying is "oh hey I'm an interior minister, I don't have to give a $hit what the PM thinks on this national concerned matter. I'll do what I damn well please."
That's correct, he is directly responsible for the problem, and that's why he needs to be more careful on what he says to the media. You don't take the Thai by storm just like that.
Quoted "are you trying to tell me that people should not give a $hit what the guy is saying"
Dude, I'm giving a $hit about what he says. That's why I'm all worked up. You should too. Though you seem to have liken his solution very much.
You don't see the south, no, the whole south, as a part of Thailand? That's coming from a Thai? cuz that's so unThai.
We do have our say, so use it wisely!
what are you talking about?
me confused!
what r u trying to say dude?
keep it short, simple and clear please.
i got the last part tho
yes, i'm unThai
are you thai?
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 15 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]3499929[/snapback]
what are you talking about?
me confused!
what r u trying to say dude?
keep it short, simple and clear please.
i got the last part tho
yes, i'm unThai
are you thai?
me confused!
what r u trying to say dude?
keep it short, simple and clear please.
i got the last part tho
yes, i'm unThai
are you thai?
LoL there he goes loser reply "I'm confused, What are you talking about, etc.", such a typical loser behaviour.
QUOTE(DekThai101 @ Feb 15 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]3499947[/snapback]
LoL there he goes loser reply "I'm confused, What are you talking about, etc.", such a typical loser behaviour.
yes, i'm a self-confess luser
but i am really, seriously, absolutely, utterly, stupidily and so fu-kingly confused by your argumenti've got a brain of a 5 yr-old kid, sir
so if you don't mind wwasting your time rewrite your last post
it would be highly appreciated
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 15 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]3499966[/snapback]
yes, i'm a self-confess luser
but i am really, seriously, absolutely, utterly, stupidily and so fu-kingly confused by your argument
i've got a brain of a 5 yr-old kid, sir
so if you don't mind wwasting your time rewrite your last post
it would be highly appreciated
but i am really, seriously, absolutely, utterly, stupidily and so fu-kingly confused by your argumenti've got a brain of a 5 yr-old kid, sir
so if you don't mind wwasting your time rewrite your last post
it would be highly appreciated
Funny guy, you are, sir.
P.S. I don't necessarily mind rewriting same old $hit. But seeing how you thought of yourself I don't think it's gonna get through you anyhow.
QUOTE(DekThai101 @ Feb 15 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]3499978[/snapback]
Funny guy, you are, sir.
P.S. I don't necessarily mind rewriting same old $hit. But seeing how you thought of yourself I don't think it's gonna get through you anyhow.
P.S. I don't necessarily mind rewriting same old $hit. But seeing how you thought of yourself I don't think it's gonna get through you anyhow.
wow! that hurts..
i'm bleeding and crying
got a question tho
by any chance, you happen to be a girl or katoey
just in case of heat argument turn to love
just in case,
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 15 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]3500004[/snapback]
wow! that hurts..
i'm bleeding and crying
got a question tho
by any chance, you happen to be a girl or katoey
just in case of heat argument turn to love
just in case,
i'm bleeding and crying
got a question tho
by any chance, you happen to be a girl or katoey
just in case of heat argument turn to love
just in case,
Answer: Nope
Though you're pretty b!tchy like a girl. Do you happen to be a girl by any chance?
just in case
QUOTE(DekThai101 @ Feb 15 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]3500031[/snapback]
Answer: Nope
Though you're pretty b!tchy like a girl. Do you happen to be a girl by any chance?
just in case
Though you're pretty b!tchy like a girl. Do you happen to be a girl by any chance?
just in case
that's too bad
damn me! i wasted my precious time talking to a stud?
oh, man
aren't there any girls in this forum?
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QUOTE(Thaitanium @ Feb 15 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]3500098[/snapback]
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Khun Chalearm is jst the classic example of PPP politician. Too many idea ,but lack of knowledge. And also immature ,he should be careful on what he said. Its the country management matter ,not comedy ตลกคาเฟ่.
PPP is people choice. Let them do their job. expert wanabe. true, true.
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Muslims ???
Oh my, they always wanted a land of their own. Ruled by their own kind and people of their own.
They lurk in one place and segregate themselves among the others.
Would Thailand gain something for that set up?
Oh my, they always wanted a land of their own. Ruled by their own kind and people of their own.
They lurk in one place and segregate themselves among the others.
Would Thailand gain something for that set up?
QUOTE(Dette @ Feb 15 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]3500382[/snapback]
Muslims ???
Oh my, they always wanted a land of their own. Ruled by their own kind and people of their own.
They lurk in one place and segregate themselves among the others.
Would Thailand gain something for that set up?
Oh my, they always wanted a land of their own. Ruled by their own kind and people of their own.
They lurk in one place and segregate themselves among the others.
Would Thailand gain something for that set up?
hello sexy, you better read about thailand history plus current news before you made the statements
anyway
to save thousand of innocent lives, thailand gotta do it.
you are so sexy QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 15 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]3500417[/snapback]
hello sexy, you better read about thailand history plus current news before you made the statements
anyway
to save thousand of innocent lives, thailand gotta do it.
you are so sexy
anyway
to save thousand of innocent lives, thailand gotta do it.
you are so sexy More like a threat, sexy. To save thousand innocent lives, thailand gotta do it. otherwise will bomb you. That what you're trying to say ??? So Muslim want their own country in the muslim south. right ?????
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ Feb 15 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]3500370[/snapback]
^
ตลกคาเฟ
ตลกคาเฟ
YOu still pay to watch me, i got what you don't have, loser.
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Feb 16 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]3500459[/snapback]
YOu still pay to watch me, i got what you don't have, loser.
Oh yeah if you wanna shows the cabaret dance too I dont mind to see the fake boobs that I dont have.
The Thai governement would be crazy to let that province go which i dont think it's gonna happen.
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 16 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]3500417[/snapback]
hello sexy, you better read about thailand history plus current news before you made the statements
anyway
to save thousand of innocent lives, thailand gotta do it.
you are so sexy
anyway
to save thousand of innocent lives, thailand gotta do it.
you are so sexy Obviously, that's my opinion.
And I didn't say anything against Thailand.
Another thing I didn't even mentioned Bhuddism here. I was referring to Muslims.
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Feb 16 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]3500457[/snapback]
More like a threat, sexy. To save thousand innocent lives, thailand gotta do it. otherwise will bomb you. That what you're trying to say ??? So Muslim want their own country in the muslim south. right ?????
just read wikipedia some some $hit then you will know why they do what they're doing best
since thaksin gov, more and more southerners feeling alienated
more and more money going up north
because the south don't elect thaksin, thaksin won't put tax money back in
we must be freakingly stupid, if we continue living under such government
i'm sure there will be a referendum for the south asking if they want their own country
don't blaim the south, blaim those people who elect him
P"Anatta, if I'm not wrong, Khun Chalerm step-on-his-sons-toes-you're-dead said that Hatyai is going to be included in this stupid idea of Autonomous Region of Muslim ?
QUOTE(erla @ Feb 16 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]3501984[/snapback]
P"Anatta, if I'm not wrong, Khun Chalerm step-on-his-sons-toes-you're-dead said that Hatyai is going to be included in this stupid idea of Autonomous Region of Muslim ?
nope
hatyai won't be included
he said the interior ministry will not licence new pubs and bars in the southernmost 3 provinces
if anyone get so horny, they can go to hatyai and satool to have sex or whatever
nah, his idea is not stupid
he is being realistic. it is a win-win policy
but it would be the best if the whole southern part from Prajuab Kiri-Kan down to get the Autonomous status
If the south have their own autonomy then sooner or later other parts like eastern Khmer and northern Issan and maybe Lanna going to demand their autonomy too. That will be an interesting time for the Kingdom of Thailand. Well, maybe a federal system.
QUOTE(lemongrass @ Feb 16 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]3502294[/snapback]
If the south have their own autonomy then sooner or later other parts like eastern Khmer and northern Issan and maybe Lanna going to demand their autonomy too. That will be an interesting time for the Kingdom of Thailand. Well, maybe a federal system.
federal system? NO!
own country, own government. YES!
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 15 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]3500206[/snapback]
ไม่ได้ด่า ไม่ได้เถียงนะครับ
พอดีกำลังเรียนภาษาอังกฤษอยู่ เลยฝึกซะหน่อย
บางคนอ่านที่ผมโพสต์แล้วตกใจ หาว่าหัวรุนแรง
ผมแค่ฝึกภาษา ทักษะในการโต้เถียงก็แค่นั้น
อย่าคิดมากครับ
พอดีกำลังเรียนภาษาอังกฤษอยู่ เลยฝึกซะหน่อย
บางคนอ่านที่ผมโพสต์แล้วตกใจ หาว่าหัวรุนแรง
ผมแค่ฝึกภาษา ทักษะในการโต้เถียงก็แค่นั้น
อย่าคิดมากครับ
ถูกต้องน่ะคร๊าบบบ ไม่ได้ด่ากันหรอกอ่ะ คุณแอร์โร่
ถ้าผมจะเอามันส์ ผมไปกระทู้พันทิบนานแล้วอิอิ
ว่าแต่ว่า ถ้าจะเอาจิง federal system ก็น่าสนใจอยู่ ถ้าจะทำก็ทำทั้งประเทศไปเลย น่าจะยกระดับการปกครองให้มีประสิทธิภาพมากขึ้น แบบที่ออสเตรเลียมี ก็เอามาศึกษาได้ พัฒนาจุดบอดของระบบของเค้า แล้วก็ร่าง ก.ม. ที่ดีกว่า เพราะ federal system ของออสเอง ก็ยังมีจุดบกพร่องอยู่เยอะ เรื่องการก้าวก่ายของรัฐบาลกลางที่เกิดขึ้นบ่อยกับ state government
ผมว่าถ้าทำจริง เผลอๆไทยตามทันสิงคโปรเร็วกว่าเดิมซะด้วยซ้ำ ยิ่งภาคใต้เนี่ย โครตได้เปรียบเรื่องแหล่งท่องเที่ยวทางทะเล แถมยังมีเซาว์เทิร์นบอร์ดอีก การศึกษาก็ไม่ได้เป็นรองกรุงเทพฯมากมาย ม.สงขลานครินท์ ก็ยิ่งดีวันดีคืน ตอนนี้ ranking ดีกว่า ม.จุฬา ซะด้วยซ้ำ.
จัดไป อย่าให้เสีย ไม่ทราบว่าคุณแอร์โร่ เรียนที่เมล รึเปล่า
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 15 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]3501415[/snapback]
just read wikipedia some some $hit then you will know why they do what they're doing best
since thaksin gov, more and more southerners feeling alienated
more and more money going up north
because the south don't elect thaksin, thaksin won't put tax money back in
we must be freakingly stupid, if we continue living under such government
i'm sure there will be a referendum for the south asking if they want their own country
don't blaim the south, blaim those people who elect him
since thaksin gov, more and more southerners feeling alienated
more and more money going up north
because the south don't elect thaksin, thaksin won't put tax money back in
we must be freakingly stupid, if we continue living under such government
i'm sure there will be a referendum for the south asking if they want their own country
don't blaim the south, blaim those people who elect him
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 16 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]3502311[/snapback]
federal system? NO!
own country, own government. YES!
own country, own government. YES!
What a snake. You can not even hide your tongue for a moment, i don't need to read wikipedia. It's right on your lips. own country, own government. Just curious how are you ganna bring about. Talk is just cheap.
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 16 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]3502311[/snapback]
federal system? NO!
own country, own government. YES!
own country, own government. YES!
I highly doubt that will happened without further blood shed. However, best of luck.
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Feb 17 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]3502467[/snapback]
What a snake. You can not even hide your tongue for a moment, i don't need to read wikipedia. It's right on your lips. own country, own government. Just curious how are you ganna bring about. Talk is just cheap.
yep. i'm a snake. a deadly snake.
my tongue? how can you see my tongue? are you they girl in red who just walked pass me?
fine. don't read kiwi
on my lips? you must be the hooker that gave me the most excellent blowjob last night
bring what? "please explain" quote from Pauline Hanson
talk is cheap, yes. my super fastest full mega highest speed ADSL is not.
QUOTE(lemongrass @ Feb 17 2008, 06:32 AM) [snapback]3502985[/snapback]
I highly doubt that will happened without further blood shed. However, best of luck.
further bloodshed, yes. there will be.
thanks. but luck is not needed.
look at the current thai gov.
they are just so, well, terribly weak and dumb
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 16 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]3503224[/snapback]
yep. i'm a snake. a deadly snake.
my tongue? how can you see my tongue? are you they girl in red who just walked pass me?
fine. don't read wiki
on my lips? you must be the hooker that gave me the most excellent blowjob last night
bring what? "please explain" quote from Pauline Hanson
talk is cheap, yes. my super fastest full mega highest ADSL is not.
my tongue? how can you see my tongue? are you they girl in red who just walked pass me?
fine. don't read wiki
on my lips? you must be the hooker that gave me the most excellent blowjob last night
bring what? "please explain" quote from Pauline Hanson
talk is cheap, yes. my super fastest full mega highest ADSL is not.
Anybody can make claims or comments but to back it is another different story. You have not answered my simple question. How would you bring about of creating your own country, or creating your own government. If you don't have one just admit it. Hope my question is not too hard for you. i'll save a nicely debate just for my Muslim brother.
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Feb 17 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]3503236[/snapback]
Anybody can make claims or comments but to back it is another different story. You have not answered my simple question. How would you bring about of creating your own country, or creating your own government. If you don't have one just admit it. Hope my question is not too hard for you. i'll save a nicely debate just for my Muslim brother.
ahh, bring about of creating my own country.
why didn't you say so.
here is the roadmap yet to be approved.
we will lease our beautiful beaches on the west coast to Sweden(alot of Swedes already living in Phuket, Krabi and Phang -NGa) for 30 years
we will lease the gas-rich east coast to oil companies for 30 years
take the money that we got to create better schools and universities
send the students to top universities around the world
use the money to improve the logistic system between east coast and south coast
after 30 years
we have our own responsible corporations
since the southerners are already living in good environment, we don't have to do much in term of condition of living
our corporations will invest overseas
compete will other countries
bring money home.
will expand our land into the sea too
wow
enough for now
any questions?
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Feb 16 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]3502311[/snapback]
federal system? NO!
own country, own government. YES!
own country, own government. YES!
I am talking about your comment above.
QUOTE(DekThai101 @ Feb 16 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]3502314[/snapback]
ถูกต้องน่ะคร๊าบบบ ไม่ได้ด่ากันหรอกอ่ะ คุณแอร์โร่
ถ้าผมจะเอามันส์ ผมไปกระทู้พันทิบนานแล้วอิอิ
ว่าแต่ว่า ถ้าจะเอาจิง federal system ก็น่าสนใจอยู่ ถ้าจะทำก็ทำทั้งประเทศไปเลย น่าจะยกระดับการปกครองให้มีประสิทธิภาพมากขึ้น แบบที่ออสเตรเลียมี ก็เอามาศึกษาได้ พัฒนาจุดบอดของระบบของเค้า แล้วก็ร่าง ก.ม. ที่ดีกว่า เพราะ federal system ของออสเอง ก็ยังมีจุดบกพร่องอยู่เยอะ เรื่องการก้าวก่ายของรัฐบาลกลางที่เกิดขึ้นบ่อยกับ state government
ผมว่าถ้าทำจริง เผลอๆไทยตามทันสิงคโปรเร็วกว่าเดิมซะด้วยซ้ำ ยิ่งภาคใต้เนี่ย โครตได้เปรียบเรื่องแหล่งท่องเที่ยวทางทะเล แถมยังมีเซาว์เทิร์นบอร์ดอีก การศึกษาก็ไม่ได้เป็นรองกรุงเทพฯมากมาย ม.สงขลานครินท์ ก็ยิ่งดีวันดีคืน ตอนนี้ ranking ดีกว่า ม.จุฬา ซะด้วยซ้ำ.
จัดไป อย่าให้เสีย ไม่ทราบว่าคุณแอร์โร่ เรียนที่เมล รึเปล่า
ถ้าผมจะเอามันส์ ผมไปกระทู้พันทิบนานแล้วอิอิ
ว่าแต่ว่า ถ้าจะเอาจิง federal system ก็น่าสนใจอยู่ ถ้าจะทำก็ทำทั้งประเทศไปเลย น่าจะยกระดับการปกครองให้มีประสิทธิภาพมากขึ้น แบบที่ออสเตรเลียมี ก็เอามาศึกษาได้ พัฒนาจุดบอดของระบบของเค้า แล้วก็ร่าง ก.ม. ที่ดีกว่า เพราะ federal system ของออสเอง ก็ยังมีจุดบกพร่องอยู่เยอะ เรื่องการก้าวก่ายของรัฐบาลกลางที่เกิดขึ้นบ่อยกับ state government
ผมว่าถ้าทำจริง เผลอๆไทยตามทันสิงคโปรเร็วกว่าเดิมซะด้วยซ้ำ ยิ่งภาคใต้เนี่ย โครตได้เปรียบเรื่องแหล่งท่องเที่ยวทางทะเล แถมยังมีเซาว์เทิร์นบอร์ดอีก การศึกษาก็ไม่ได้เป็นรองกรุงเทพฯมากมาย ม.สงขลานครินท์ ก็ยิ่งดีวันดีคืน ตอนนี้ ranking ดีกว่า ม.จุฬา ซะด้วยซ้ำ.
จัดไป อย่าให้เสีย ไม่ทราบว่าคุณแอร์โร่ เรียนที่เมล รึเปล่า
โควตผิดคนครับ ที่สนใจ federal system ก้อเพราะแต่ละท้องถิ่นต้องการไม่เหมือนกัน ดูอย่างโครงการของรัฐตอนนี้ กทมได้รถใต้ดินอิสานได้ โครงการผันน้ำ แต่ภาคใต้เนี่ยนอกจากโครงการคุณเฉลิมที่โดนค้านแล้ว ไม่มีอะไรเลย ผมกลัวคนใต้โดนทิ้งจัง พปชไม่ค่อยไปยุ่งกับภาคใต้เพราะมีแค่เสมอตัวกับขาดทุน เรื่อง Federal นี่คงยากครับ และอีกนานไม่ใช่แค่นักการเมืองที่ยังไม่พร้อมแต่ข้าราชการก้อยังล้าสมัยเช้าชามเย็นชาม เคยทำโปรเจคให้กับหน่วยราชการครับทำงานกันช้าและไม่ค่อยรับอะไรใหม่ๆเลย ผมแค่หวังว่ารัฐบาลชุดนี้จะเป็นชุดสุดท้ายที่มีแต่หน้าเก่าๆ
ผมเคยเรียนที่แอดเลดครับ แต่ตอนนี้ทำงานอยู่ทั่กรุงเทพแล้ว
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ Feb 17 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]3503274[/snapback]
โควตผิดคนครับ ที่สนใจ federal system ก้อเพราะแต่ละท้องถิ่นต้องการไม่เหมือนกัน ดูอย่างโครงการของรัฐตอนนี้ กทมได้รถใต้ดินอิสานได้ โครงการผันน้ำ แต่ภาคใต้เนี่ยนอกจากโครงการคุณเฉลิมที่โดนค้านแล้ว ไม่มีอะไรเลย ผมกลัวคนใต้โดนทิ้งจัง พปชไม่ค่อยไปยุ่งกับภาคใต้เพราะมีแค่เสมอตัวกับขาดทุน เรื่อง Federal นี่คงยากครับ และอีกนานไม่ใช่แค่นักการเมืองที่ยังไม่พร้อมแต่ข้าราชการก้อยังล้าสมัยเช้าชามเย็นชาม เคยทำโปรเจคให้กับหน่วยราชการครับทำงานกันช้าและไม่ค่อยรับอะไรใหม่ๆเลย ผมแค่หวังว่ารัฐบาลชุดนี้จะเป็นชุดสุดท้ายที่มีแต่หน้าเก่าๆ
ผมเคยเรียนที่แอดเลดครับ แต่ตอนนี้ทำงานอยู่ทั่กรุงเทพแล้ว
ผมเคยเรียนที่แอดเลดครับ แต่ตอนนี้ทำงานอยู่ทั่กรุงเทพแล้ว
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