Nearly 10,000 North Indians flee from Nashik

UNI
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 15:55 IST

NASHIK: The exodus of North Indians to their homes still continues, affecting the industries. People from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar mostly work in the industries of Ambad and Satpur.

Maharashtra Navnirman Sena chief Raj Thackeray's possible arrest has provoked a heightened attack on the North Indians here and they are fleeing the city.

North Indians are leaving the city by every possible means-- buses, trains and even private vehicles.

An estimated 10,000 people have left the city during the last 48 hours.

The railway station here was flooded with migrants throughout the day on Tuesday and there was hardly any place even to stand on the platforms at the Nashik Road railway station.

Railway officials said that such a large crowd of people have been witnessed after a long time since the Sinhasta Kumbha Mela in 2003-2004.

Long queues of people were seen at the ticket winows. Trains such as the Bhagalpur Express, Patna Express, Superfast Janta, Gorakhpur via Lucknow Mahanagar and other North India bound trains were overcrowded with these migrants.

The worst sufferers of this migration are the industries, especially in the Ambad MIDC area. Nearly 40 per cent small and medium industries in the Ambad Industrial area have been closed due to this migration.

''We are worried about completing the March-end schedule of production and fulfilling orders. There are solutions for financial and natural crisis but, we do not have any solution for this unexpected crisis,'' Ambad Industries and Manufacturers Association (AIMA) President Dhanraj Bele told on Wednesday.

''We are worried about replacing the workers and training them. Though the production has come to a stand still, we have to pay telephone, electricity and water bills. We cannot avoid these expenditures,'' Bele said.

He said that if the same situation continued for three four days more, it will affect even the Marathi workers as the production will come to a standstill and the other workers will have no work in dearth of raw material.

Though these small industries are ancilliary units, providing material to big industries such as Mahindra and Mahindra, MICO, Crompton Greaves and VIP industries, crises in these units will affect the work of the big industries.

Bele estimated the loss to the industries due to the prevailing crises to the tune of Rs 500-700 crore till now.

Meanwhile, heavy industries such as the steel industry in Satpur, Ambad and Sinnar are also facing a similar problem as people from Bihar, Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan work in these industries because of their physical ability to work.

Source - http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1150680

ah, this started up on the day I got to Mumbai, a lot of violence but luckily not where I was

there's only thing above nation--- n thts self

Not everyone wants to speak hindi and eat Rotis.

Some guy in a talk show on tv was saying that media publicized the whole thing to astronomical levels. The violence was very sporadic but media caused panic among people by airing the events with tremendous frequency. When Raj Thackeray's goons go to a place a whole fleet of media people follows them. The goons will just beat up few people and smash some glasses and media makes it look like it is too widespread.

MNS demands reservation of jobs for locals in pvt companies

Wed, Apr 9 02:09 PM

Mumbai, Apr 9 (PTI) Raking up the sons-of-soil issue once again, Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS) has demanded that 80 per cent of the jobs in the private companies be reserved for Marathi speaking locals. The MNS, led by Raj Thackeray, has sent letters to private companies to reserve 80 per cent of the jobs in their companies for Marathi people failing which they have threatened to launch agitation, party sources said.

PTI.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/pti/20080409/r_t_pti_nl_general/tnl-mns-demands-reservation-of-jobs-for-114a2da.html

This is how political parties exploit the laws of reservation. MNS is foolish to demand such thing.

Although their demand is foolish, it would be even more foolish to ignore the ground realities. The Marathi middle class is non-existent or not confident of its role in Maharashtra, along with that even the poor can't find jobs for themselves because of overwhelming competition from Bihari and UPite laborers (and they can't win here because the labor pool of these two states is larger than the entire Marathi population). If Marathis think that they are being denied opportunities in their own state because of migrants, things will get MUCH WORSE in the future.

The same phenomenon can be witnessed in Karnataka, they have something along MNS lines too. You won't see this happening in AP because the local population dominates the entire job market, including the IT industry, or for the matter any industry. So, you have a very large assured middle class, and as such is very comfortable of outsiders.

Parties like MNS or Shiv Sena don't sprout up for no reason.

In India regionalism is nationalism, unless of course nationalism conflicts with regional interests, in which case regionalism always supersedes nationalism.

P.S. Marathi and Hindi are not mutually intelligible as far as I am aware. If caste can be such a big issue (when people of two different castes speak same language and have same culture), be assured that separate languages with their different cultures and identities can divide people much worse. Both languages being derived from Sanskrit is irrelevant. English and German languages have a common ancestor, this hasn't stopped them from fighting two world wars.

Mumbai is the New York of India. Mumbai is the city of immigrants. It is the financial capital of India. You please read the history of Mumbai. Outsiders made this city what it is today. So those so called natives don't have any locus standi to stop anyone from coming to Mumbai and make a living.

If they don't want outsiders in Mumbai then Mukesh Ambani, Anil Ambani, Shahrukh Khan, all Gujarati traders in the stock market, all taxi drivers, all muslim craftsmen from UP, Cloth cleaners, Milk delivery men and vegetable vendors and countless other people should leave Mumbai? Who would be left in Mumbai then? 90% of Bollywood will be empty.

Yes Karnataka also has this thing, but less violent. About Andhra, Hyderabad and adjoining areas are very cosmopolitan. And I think Hyderabad is composed of more outsiders than the natives. You are forgetting the Nizam and outsiders who came to Hyderabad during Nizam's reign.

You also need to go into the origins of Shiv Sens and MNS. Shiv Sena was originated from the urban middle class of Mumbai. Maharastrian middle class is mostly into jobs, so they are effected if some outsider comes there and get a job. So Shiv Sena and now this new MNS will stoop down to such things as beating outsiders or stop people from coming to Mumbai in order to appease their biggest vote-bank, middle class urban Maharastrian people. Before Shiv Sena people in it's earlier days used to beat and stop Tamilians coming to Mumbai, now it's offshoot MNS is beating UPites and Biharis.
Because of the very reason the linguistic division of the states was opposed by many because it gives rise to sub-nationalism which is opposed to the ideals of unity and integrity of the country. According to the Constitution every citizen of India has the fundamental right to go anywhere in the country and earn his/her livelihood. So if anyone stops people from other regions of India to come and work anywhere in India, that person is also infringing into the fundamental rights of those people.

Magahi and Maithili are two of the many languages spoken in Bihar. Hindi is as different from Marathi, as Hindi is different from Magahi and Maithili. In short there is not much difference. As far as English and German are concerned they belong to two different countries. If you want to compare on the basis of the languages, compare Pakistan and India, they both speak the same languages, yet they fought so many wars against each other.

If you want to compare on the basis of the languages, compare Pakistan and India, they both speak the same languages, yet they fought so many wars against each other.

Irrelevant. It doesn't matter who made Mumbai 60 years ago. It's the capital of Maharashtra, and if locals thinks they are being denied opportunities they are going to be problems. If all these ppl left, Mumbai would be like any other metro city.

You think bollywood is all that? If bollywood left, it would simply be replaced by local marathi film industry, which is marginalized because there is no way it can compete when such a large industry exist in the same city. Besides, there are not a significant amount of marathis in bollywood, they wouldn't really care if Bollywood packed up its bags and left.

The muslim population is restricted to Old City, while the rest of the Hyderabad is overwhelmingly Telugu. Hyderabad was cosmopolitan. Right now, its' overwhelmingly telugu. The entire IT industry is dominated by Telugus (specifically by Coastal Andhris). Nizam was 60 Years ago, it has been a long long time since then! I think you are one of those ppl who think n. indians are business ppl, and all the industries in south were set up by n. indians, and that s. indians just work there. . The Hyderabad what is now, was completely built by natives, and more specifically by ppl from Coastal Andhra.

So, you agree with my assertion that Parties like MNS or Shiv Sena don't sprout up for no reason?

If india wasn't divided on linguistic basis, you can be assured that India would have broken up already or would have been in middle of a huge civil war. Linguistic division was the best thing to have happened to India

That is the most of stupidest thing I have ever heard. Mathili and Magahi are both from Bihar, and are considered bihari. They are dialects of hindi, (or at least were considered one). Culturally speaking, they are in the same geographical region, and are the same.

There is no difference between marathi and hindi? Are u being naive or something? Marathi and Hindi are two separate languages, with very different history and culture. If there "is not much difference", why the hell on earth are marathis trying to throw out biharis. Oh don't throw in the BS that marathis don't support MNS, the Marathi media is dramatically different from English media, and they OVERWHELMINGLY supported MNS (they just don't support the violent means MNS resorts to but DO support MNS ideologically). If they were no difference between marathis and hindi ppl, marathis wouldn't have a problem with bihari migrants.

If India and Pakistan could fight each other even when they have apparently the same language, you don't think ppl with two different languages wouldn't have more reasons to fight?