America allies

Canada (Traditional ally)
Australia (Anzac ally)
New Zealand )Anzac ally)
NATO/EU (Main ally with 2 nuclear powers France and Britain)
Japan (Asian ally with potential to be very powerful)
South Korea (The puppet of America)
Israel (Nuclear power and regional power)
Taiwan (Could their be conflict?)
South Africa (Africa ally)

China allies
Russia (Nuclear and world Power)
SCO (Strategic ally in Central Asia)
Burma (strategic Asian ally)
Venezuela (Latin American strategic ally)
Zimbabwe (Strategic African ally)
Pakistan (Major partner and Nuclear power)
Iran (Middle eastern ally and regional power)
Cuba (Latin American strategic ally)
North Korea (Traditional cold war ally with nuclear weapons)
Sudan (Strategic African ally)
Syria (Strategic middle eastern ally)
Serbia (Possible future ally now that America has pissed them off with Kosovo)

We all lose in the end

if it came to a war between china and usa which in its self is unlikely, i doubt less than half of those "allies" on either side would be there when trouble starts.

Chinese Allies all seem to be rogue nations! Interesting allies..!

china doesn't really have a trustworthy ally.

i don't trust those china allies.

they are using china because we are the only potential threat to usa power.

if a world war III happens, it will unlikely involves that many from china ally.

so american ally seems stronger.

however if russia back china up. thing will changes

china manpower + russa tech = scary!

Yep. Nothing good would come out of a conflict on that scale.

I thought most Russian Tech was old and outdated now(?)

Its the NATO law. You attack one country, every country supposed to help. I think theres like 26 countries in total. I dont know about communism though, I think they are the same way. Remember, the world is nuclear now. If this war ever starts. NONE of us will have a bright future....

I can't believe someone would be dumb enough to hit the nuke button, but hatred runs deep. I believe Iran would hit it. Its so hard to convince people to do good when they are in office..goddamn..lets build a spaceship Iki

Lol Venezuela's Chavez is the best ally.

HAHA, lets go buddy... ill bring the ganja...

but seriously, I think its not just iran, I think they are all capable of hitting that button. There is a reason why they created that sh*t in the first place....

no russian have one of the best military technology in the world.

china bought most from russia but mostly 2nd rate technology.

Go allies of China!

Rock on Bollywood!

Bollywood is funny.

Whether the Russians like it or not, they are tied with China now. And actually it's a great match in many ways.

Russian ambitions are in Eastern Europe where they hope to reclaim lost satellites before NATO swallows up more of them. China's ambitions are in the Pacific. Each nation can carry out their own strategic goals without friction. Russians also know that they cannot stand up to the US alone anymore, and China knows that the Russians can provide support in many critical forms.

Basically it's the perfect alliance of utility, both nations have a lot to gain and little to lose.

The SCO will develop into a more cohesive strategic alliance like NATO soon enough.

WWIII will be a grand thing to see, let's hope that we can experience it in our lifetimes and have the honor of taking part.

What the hell is this guy's IQ?

Majority of those Chinese allies would not show up. In fact the only country you listed who would possibly help China is Russia. And even that is debatable. At most they would supply a few ammunitions while refusing to directly help.

Of course its all subjective and depends on the reason for war. If the US is clearly the aggressor and threat to world peace then China would have more allies.

Russia will not help China anymore. If China become stronger, Chinese can conquer Siberia for woods, and minerals.

The ultimate loser in this scenario=humanity
The ultimate winner= some other life form

First comes



Then comes

China would collapse internally by famers riots,anti-ccp groupe ...etc

Penguin Cavalry is no match for...

Puh-leeese.

They'd be there in moral support. But, honestly I think that (based on history) the US allies will more likely aid than the Chinese ones. Partially, due to the idea of Liberty that the US and her allies are supposed to represent and uphold, and that the US's allies are so culturally similar and so economically dependent.

China's allies aren't similar in political ideology, nor in culture. And, they aren't really that dependent on China buying their $hit to keep their economy afloat. They'd likely let China fend for herself when the chips were thrown down. Luckily, China's big enough to take care of herself in case of an invasion. But, in total war, both sides would lose. It's just that China would lose a little bit worse than the US.

Unfortunately, Russia isn't communist anymore. They might hate the US, but not only are they a NATO member, but they're also more like America than they are like Chinese.
Western European culture is more similar to that of Russian culture than it Russian culture is to Chinese culture.

i wouldnt just call canada a traditional ally. they are the 51st state. japan is a force to be reckoned with and has the capability of making the best nukes in the world. they are actually a very big threat. it's a very nationalistic country, and they are ready to go any time. they spend almost as much money as china, but look at the size of their country and population. they have almost no offensive troops but have a huge spending, meaning most of the budget goes towards nuclear weapon research.

culture means nothing. china is more like japan than usa, but if a war broke out, you can bet your bottom dollar that japan will attack china kamekazi style. usually it is the countries that are alike that have a lot of disagreements, for example india and pakistan. they used to be one country, but now pakistan has aligned itself with china, a country that it doesnt have much in common with.

you gotta be kidding me. you really think americas allies are backing it up for "liberty". what are you smoking. they are doing it because they have economic interests.

youre out of your mind. usa is ten times more hateful than iran ever will be. if anyone starts ww3, it will be usa. theyre very good at starting wars, and framing people. you have to remember how america came to be a super power in the first place... through war, and making weapons, without this, america wouldnt be a super power. many of the allies that america has acquired is through war. they decide that its better to be on the side of the bully rather than get bullied themselves.

the usa has been a threat to world peace for decades. do you ever wonder why israel is the recipient of the most foreign aid? most countries believed that israel's assault on gaza was wrong, but what ally govt has actually stood up to it? even if the usa was the aggressor, which it is most of the time, its allies would still stand by it. this has happened with the korean war, viet nam war, and iraq war. the usa had no business in any of those countries, and killed millions of people.

The problem with China's "allies" - they're geographically scattered seemingly even more so than America's, (whom at least has South Korea and Japan, both powerful nations in East Asia.) How could any of China's other allies help out? At most it seems that only North Korea and Russia could help intervene in an East Asian theater, while the rest of China's allies elsewhere watch on the sidelines.

delayed april fool joke??? digging up threat 1 year + old...

interesting definition of rogue nations!

I believe SCO and NK are the only formal military allies.

All these alliances are defensive in nature. NATO is the only alliance that can get together to attack somebody, but they are only in Europe not in Asia. China is not going to bomb Haiwaii, so USA is not going to get its allies activated due to treaty requirements. Remember it's USA that has hostile designs in Asia. If Chinese mainland is attacked SCO and North Korea will certainly help out. Very importantly SCO can keep China supplies with essential war materials. North Korea can keep the southern part fearful of pitching in. The other nice thing about NK is the they have the i'm-unpredictable-i-can-randomly-hit-nuke-button threat.

Anyway no one has said what will the fight be about, which is most important for determining which allies will come into play.


I think it would be good for China to ally with Serbia, not because Serbia can fight China's war but because it strengthens the alliance with Russia. It also gives China a foothold in Europe which we currently lack. I'd love to see Chinese spy planes being harassed outside Televiv Also the more allies you have the more USA interests are threatened. For instance if USA attacked China over Taiwan, the Serbian ally can now legally overrun the US base in Kosovo, which they are just itching to do in the first place.

China has no allies of worth.

It's like in the movies. The bad guys betray each other at the first opportunity because they're selfish. They're only united insofar as they oppose the good guys, but end up fighting each other anyways. The same is true here - China's authoritarian regime and its authoritarian allies only have their own best interests at heart. Not saying it's that different with some of the US's allies, but there's history and tradition there (ie US, UK, & Canada fought together several times). Oh, and US bases on their soil.

they're rogue nations because by definition, anti-US countries are rogue nations

what are you smoking.. russia a NATO member??!??!

ok... bad guys and good guys..........................................

russia is actually a traditional western ally.. in both wwi and wwii.. but then the USA got the funny idea that they need to invade the soviet sphere of influence

Russia isn't a member of NATO but it does have a represententative at NATO.

Is that why the US is putting a missile defense shield right up to Russian border?

Is this why NATO is expanding eastward?

Here in Mitteleuropa, it is not diplomatic to openly talk about a military alliance with Russia. They are still the bad guys, turning the gas off at will, enslaving poor, poor Mikhail Shakashvili, poisoning sushi in London bars, etc. etc.

Maybe the PRC should reactivate its alliance with maoist Albania, too bad they just joined NATO instead.

Why should Russia give free gas, if Ukraine wont pay their debt?

Why should Russia sit and do nothing if Georgia start shelling SO?

Maybe the US should expand NATO to Thailand, or Malaysia, or TW? Oh wait, all these democracies would rather have a friendly relationship with PRC then be financial raped by the old IMF.

NATO will probably accept Australia, since they are clearly in the North Atlantic...oh and probably set up a dummy entity in the Arctic, so it can be defended against the evil Ivans...

Yes, people with different skin color, or cultures or Ideas are all evil... There is a reason why the crusade exist. There is a reason why WW2 exist.

This is the 21st century. People need to have more tolerances for different things.

I'm quite an optimist in that matter. Even if there will be more nationalism in the future, the means of communication (even if economic globalization is slowed or stopped completely) will still create more tolerance for other people. This doesn't mean that power struggles will cease to exist. There will be pragmatic alliances in the future, not such "western values" or "oriental values" crusaders bashing their heads in. Or maybe I'm just dreaming...

Anyway, the PRC has proven itself pragmatic in its quest for superpower-status, until now. So Serbia, Belarus, Israel might be on your side in WW3.

Nothing compare to what the US and NATO has done to the world. Mass killing, bombing, raping, and torture.

PRC and any other countries, such as India, Russia, and Brazil has their right to develop and rise with more power. Their "quest" are legit as long as they dont take hostile action on foreign nations...something that I cant say the same for the US, who's track record for the past 60 years are literally filled with conquest.

If America were to start a war with China, South Korea, Japan and India would be unlikely to join in. Same goes for Thailand or Indonesia.

As in the last two WW, the last big guy to stay neutral (in those cases the USA) and the last to step in the conflict will take the prize.

The one comment that I can agree with.

i dont think so, theyre most likely to sit on the sidelines at the begining and then jump in if america is winning kinda like brazil in WW2