do they think themselves as an asian country or a totally separate thing?

because lets face it, I can't speak for the koreans and vietnamese, but for the chinese, although we harbor hatred towards the Japanese for all the astrocities they committed in China in the past (and no admitting to them), we secretly admire and worship them.

The Japanese seem to have the best image in the world. They're pretty much respected by all over the world.

Their culture is interesting and a lot more serene and neat than chinese culture. Their manners, the way they do things, seems a lot more sophisticated than other asian countries.

I am chinese myself and my grandfather fought against the japanese in the war. And I have to admit, I respect and admire Japanese very much.

There are times when I am proud and self-hate my own race. I don't know why. I think its something inherent in chinese people. We tend to loathe ourselves.

The japanese are patriotic. They don't go all over the world trying to escape their own country. Most japanese stay in Japan and are proud of it.

Unlike chinese people. Chinese people don't want to help their own country. Their idea of a better life is to escape to the west instead of making their own country better.

That is why I respect the Japanese.

Now pour on the hate for me. I don't care. I'm being totally honest.

and maybe its not appropriate to say this but:

I find the tradition of suicide in Japan to be respectful.

I think a lot of it has to do with the humbleness. In Japan, people bow to each other in greeting. They are taught to be humble and respect those who are older and wiser. And most of all, they seem to have a deep sense of shame.

Shame is unbearable as an emotion. And although it is less relevant these days in modern Japan, it is still around. Suicide isn't as common but there is still that underlying sense of shame amongst most Japanese.

In China and the West especially, people have no sense of shame. People who have done acts of shame just continue to leech of society and struggle to move on.

In Japan, there is a sense of pride. It is better to kill yourself than to be a liability to your family or society.

I highly respect that. And because it is so unique, I think the rest of the world (no matter how much they deny) respects that too.

at least u speakin in honest..good boy...but i hate u
since china are getting better more and more chinese are heading back home

i dont hate anybody. its better to make friends than enemies :genius:

well i don't hate japanese that much..because i can't my dad was educated by japanese... he went to college in Japan...soso..i'm speakless

Despite your title, your post seems to mainly be a comparison between China and Japan: who's better.

"Serene culture" aside, look at the bigger picture: who contributed more to the modern world, Chinese or Japanese? What great inventions ever came out of Japan? Besides tiny little radios. And Japan does try to escape itself by emulating America, just like the rest of the world - they just don't want to admit it.

China is quickly becoming the world's most powerful country, while Japan is on the decline. And China didn't need America's help to get there.

i don't think they consider themselves apart from asia, besides i have great respect for the Japanese and for chinese lol. Both are great nations!

why would the chinese admire japanese? for thier o-shaped legs?
just joking
are you talking about chinese in US or asia?
because I dunno about chinese in US, but for other chinese I don't really think so
the chinese maybe envied at the japanese's accomplishments for a while, but there is no "admiration" of anyform
most chinese are too proud to admire anyother race

moving to japanese chat.

oh brother..that's what i want to hear..China is not american's puppy..we are our own dragon
it is pretty shameful to be japanese too, the have to look upon american's face.

the chinese are too. -_-;;

come to think of it,most white-wannabes and IR couple I know in europe is japanese

"I can't speak for the koreans and vietnamese, but for the chinese, although we harbor hatred towards the Japanese for all the astrocities they committed in China in the past (and no admitting to them), WE SERCRETLY ADMIRE AND WORSHIP THEM."

u are one sad Chinese loser..

haha i second that notion...

You forgot the used panties vending machine.
U know why so many Japanese kids dy their hair blonde...figure that out.
And why is so many Japanese pop songs peppered with English words and phrases here and there?

Japan's economy is on the decline while China's is rising.
There are many Japanese companies in China now all trying to get a piece of the pie.

with out china.. japanese still running around with their naked body

Can't forget about those. I originally added "virtual child porn" after the tiny little radios but edited it out.

Same with koreans.

Maybe...but Koreans are generally more proud than any other race.
Anyway, it doesn't matter to me as I am not even Korean.

wth that was uncalled for.

it seems that chinese take these topics kind of seriously. i mean come on, can we stop comparing japan and china when ever japan is involved in somthing.

anyway, i dont think there are any reson to admire and worship the japnaese unless of cource you hate your own race and thats unhealty. about the "does Japan consider themselves part of Asia" i think japan will be the next america in the near future, you see so many diversity of people espicaily whites.

dont be fooled people, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong have sold their "souls" to the Westerners.

So have all the Asians living in the West ahahaha

^^and may I ask how would you know?

It goes against one of their major religions: Buddhism. Also heavy drinking.

understandably, where it's considered as part of asia or not from certain individual or groups, it the fact of the matter is that, it's part of asia and there is nothing anyone can do about it.....well unless in a few hundred years when the island of Japan drift away from asia mainland and become closer and closer to america, then it's will be part of america. But...yeah for now Japan is part of asia.

I'm laughing so hard. How amusing.

Explain please

look at these countries and where their military supplies/protection comes from.

they are nearly totally dependant on USA for military protection.

furthermore, but this includes China, their economy is dependant on exporting to the USA. Neither teh local econmies of Japan, Hong Kong, Korea, Singapore or Taiwan is able to absord all their produced products. China to extent can...

If USA decides to put another military base in Japan or Korea, there wouldnt be much problem getting it through respective parliaments when there are obvious cases or rape and "accidentally" running over children.

If USA asks China if they can put a base in Shenyang, what would you think China would say? fu-k OFF. Same for Vietnam, if the USA wants a base in say Dalat, the VCP would say "fu-k OFF".

Explain the meaning of this also pls. Are you saying I've sold my soul to someone just because of where my ancestors are from?

The "panty vending" machines are an underground occurrence. They are not a part of the general Japanese society.

There are plenty of other Asians who "dy their hair blonde". Maybe you didn't "figure that out" yourself.

If you haven't noticed, Japanese pop songs aren't the only Asian ones that are "peppered with English words and phrases here and there". The Koreans do it. The Taiwanese do it. Even the ones from Hong Kong seem to be catching up on the fad.

China's economy grew at an annualised rate of 8% during the 2003 fiscal year ending March '04. In that same period, Japan's grew at around 3.5%.
For the fiscal year of 2004, China's economy is expected to grow by 9%; Japan's is predicted to grow by 6.1%, which is stronger than the U.S.'s 4.8% (Bloomberg, 18/05/2004). So, please tell me how "Japan's economy is on the decline"?



If the Japanese doesn't want to associate themselves with Asia, then so be it.

However, they haven't officially mentioned anything about being a "totally separate thing", so this is nothing more than a scenario.



No. I'm Chinese and I certainly don't worship Japan - although I do admire certain bits of their culture.



Funny, I would've thought the U.S. had the "best image in the world". There are bigots who would like to make public showings of burining U.S. flags and scream anti-U.S. slogans at any place the President happens to visit, but let's face it - these idiots probably can't stop themselves from chomping down a McDonald's cheeseburger, work on a Microsoft-developed program, wear Nike clothes and drive one of those gazillion different brands that GM owns.



Take note that several aspects of Japanese culture are heavily influenced by Chinese culture. So chances are that what you admire is a modified version of ancient Chinese traditions.



Good for you.



Everybody dislikes and might even hate something about their own background. It's not unusual. And I'm sure that "chinese people" aren't the only ones who might have something to complain about - look at the number of greasy-haired hippies who complain about anything that Bush does. Michael Moore is an American and he has no love for the good his country's done. Big deal.



What have you been smoking?

Do you even know why people "escape their own country"? If China was as wealthy and opportunity-filled as the U.S. is, would the majority of the Chinese consider migration: moving to a foreign society where they probably know nothing about?

If Mao's pathetic "Cultural Revolution" or his immature plans for a "Great Leap Forward" never happened and if he had actually succeeded in strengthening China's economy, many Chinese would not have bothered to move elsewhere.

I don't need to explain why many Japanese people don't see the need to immigrate.



You are Chinese, yet you obviously don't know much about your own country's history.

The "Cultural Revolution" of the 70s was precisely the reason for China's economy ending up as a stagnant POS. Mao virtually killed, murdered or simply drove away all of China's intellectuals (engineers, doctors, teachers, scholars, etc.). What Mao didn't realise was that for China to grow successfully - and especially since China has such an enormous population - intellectuals are needed to give a hand in directing how the economy and national politics should be handled.



At least you are honest

How the HELL u intrepreted this "where my ancestors are from?" is beyond me...

I just said to an extent nearly all in the West have "sold their souls" meaning that really we're just a shell. A few generations down the track and we are nothing more than mixed Caucasians...

I dont know where you got that ancestors are from bit...

I interpreted it as you meaning that since I'm an Asian and living in the West, I have sold my soul to them. How else could I have interpreted it?

I still don't understand what you mean by that exactly.

I've sold my soul to no-one.... I am who I am.

Sold my soul!?!?!?!? I still don't even know what you mean. I grew up in the U.K. big deal....

Don't make such foolish comments chinese man. We owe your kind nothing.

Musashino:

You seem to have beaten me to corrected this chinese and korean ignorance. Good job.