Happy Earth Day!
Each passing day, our earth is suffering from our wrongdoing. Don't you think it's time for all of us to act? Now you can participate in fighting the effects of global warming by planting your own tree, and the best part of it, you can do this from the comfort of your own home!

Visit http://www.mybabytree.org/ now to find out how easy it is to plant your own tree in the deep forest of Kalimantan (Borneo). You can even monitor your tree's growth with Google Earth! Now how cool is that!

You can do this either with your PayPal, or through your BCA ATM. Very cheap, very convenient, no more excuse. Plant your own tree, today!

Happy Earth Day !! thx Bro for reminding me that it's Earth day.
I've done my share of planting trees...It's hard stuff.

Plant fruit trees folks !
Good food.

Bhaskara I love that jungle picture.
It brings out the Tarzan in me.

^Where is your Jane ??? lols

I already did that, but i did it when i was in Borneo!!!:D

so you've just realized yesterday was the Earth Day, guys?
We can save our planet by doing small things like avoid using plastic bag, use recycle stuff instead, don't pave your backyard, ect, go green!

^ ok........Your asking me to go green....
fine for you I'll do it !!! I'll buy the paint tomorrow.

^Don't forget to wear green underwear too
Anyway, you have already plant a tree by yourself, dutchy? That's great! But to all of you who doesn't have the time or energy to plant yourself ( you lazy @$$! ), it's really easy and cheap to get those guys at WWF to do the job for you ( for only 45 rb gt lho! ). Hurry, go to http://www.mybabytree.org/

^ yeah I've done it around the school but haven't been able to do it again since.

A friend of mine has set up a dragon fruit plantation in West Kalimantan.

Do you guys know that many of your ethnic chinese business man are selling logs to us chinese, they sell it in massive quantity. I just hope these people know what they are doing because such quantity can only mean lots lots lots of trees are being cut down, I hope they replant it soon ... its illegal to buy forest land today in China, we are doing the 'green reserve' policy, that is why we need more woods.

Trees need land. I don't own land. It would kill any tree to be bundled into the back of a Toyota.

^Not only Chinese-Indonesians...don't generalise.


@Ralf...I don't think that plantation is a good idea especially in Borneo...I think it's a big NO NO.

good job, China!


also I support the solar power development to replace gas energy.

Well most of them look chinese, they speak mandarin and they said they 从印尼国家

Well I can be wrong since maybe they are the 'middle person' as a translator or distributor something with the mandarin speaking skills.

Recycle is a really good thing to do but when we are talking about paper which from blended wood. Just imagine how many water they used for recycling papers nowdays. A lot and some part of the world needed some water 'cause of the draught.

The Governor of the North Sulawesi has made a statement 2 years ago about plating trees.
Every couple who just got married must plant at least 1 tree. It was a very good idea.

^ then no one would want to get marry.....

@darkblade
If you learn Indonesian history, most Chinese Indonesian could not speak Mandarin....
then the people you're saying...are probably Chinese Malaysians....

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im not denying that there are chinese indonesians selling illegal logs, but pls dont genealize basing on ethnicity/race

Really ? how come ? They've been there for more than 3 generations ? No they are Indonesian, I'm pretty sure .. my parents well .. work in those kind of departments for internationl trading .. so they know what people's country is selling what. They also asked for legal license to lands for logging industry in China, but its not possible because we are saving the forest now. You know how business work in China, we dont travel outside to find client, people come to China to do investing and trading not vice versa.

Illegal ? Really ? No I dont know about the 'illegal' part but they are selling huge quantities of logs, I just figured that with such quantity there must be a huge replantation effort to balance things out.

In the 1960s being a Chinese was 'illegal' in Indonesia as fear of communism. So they made laws that dictates, all Chinese should changed their name to Indonesian names, Chinese schools are ban, learning Chinese is illegal and all sort of discrimination etc...Thats why most Chinese-Indonesian could not speak Chinese, however since about 7-8 years ago those bans were lifted and the new generation of Chinese Indonesian now could learn about their culture and language.



Ummm you do not know, those logs are illegal ?? most of them are...especially when it comes from Borneo.

If I may, where do you live ?? and how old are you ?

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lol .. I'm 22 this year, I live in the US with my relatives .. but my parents are still in China. Well, dont blame my ignorance, I know nothing about Indonesia except some geographical knowledge and Indonesian discriminate their ethnic minority chinese there. Not that I really care about that, since they are citizen of Indonesia and very assimilated except for their looks, but I do wish life is going to be better for them (safety and security wise not economical because I know most of them are rich lol).

nah mate I don't blame you for your lack of knowledge of Indonesia, especially if you're not Indonesian.
LOL we're citizens but we're not assimilated, we still have our own culture. Although you mainland Chinese guys don't acknowledge us as 'real' Chinese....
Thx, the lives of people like me are getting better in Indonesia and you should remember not all of them are rich.

my friend's dad is illegal logger ...
one day as u seen on tv, police chased his truck with the helicopter ...

I now hope his dad is changing business ...


its good now to China to follow Europe to prevent environmental damage.
woods must be registered. to be exported to those nation.

less demand will stop them(illegal loggers) from trying.



seeing this kind of news is very sad.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/11/06/1194329224319.html

I 1998 the Chinese were used as a scapegoat and there were many cases of mob violence against them.

On topic again... are there any rural folks or people involved in agriculture here in this forum ?
Seems like all the opinions here are coming from city slickers, like me.
What is the farmer's perspective ?

great idea of having to plant a tree for every tree burned for clearing for plantation...
also, great idea too to compensate neighboring countries affected by the haze...

Nah there is no real chinese, if you practice the chinese culture and you dont really look different from the general chinese look then you are chinese. But really you cant interfere with other country's sovereignity, I respect your choice to live there. BTW if you want to come back to China our racist law of 'right of citizenship by blood' are still there if you can prove it by confirming one relatives in China or if your parents/grandparents have documents proving they were citizen of China (even as far back as Qing dynasty and Ming <-- LOL jest). I see alot of chinese americans coming back to China today with that excuse.

^ really wow....I guess I better prepare those documents now...
however right now I'm not going to move back there maybe when China is much more liberal and powerful ?
Nah the real problem is I can't speak Chinese...lols

^Silly, you could always learn to! D'uh!

Anyway, guys, how many of you are really interested in this tree planting program?

^Well thats part of the problem...I not so keen on learning Mandarin...
You got one vote from me, I'm still interested in planting trees. Sry for the off topic Bhas, I'm just really bored.

But Mandarin is a very good choice of language to learn! It's very important today and in the future.
Actually, it's very hard to motivate myself to learn Mandarin too. One thing you can do to force yourself, though, to go to China yourself.

I have some friends who've gone to China to learn Mandarin, and when they came back to Indonesia, it became their selling point. My best friend is one example, dia maleeesss bgt belajar Bahasa Mandarin, pdhal udah lama dipaksa2 sm ortunya. Akhirnya pas udah sekolah di sono, jd kepaksa juga, dan akhirnya skrg udah lumayan fasih.

Even if you decide to stay in Australia, I'm sure Mandarin would take you places

Our company chose to hire one man in sales division, because he spoke fluent Mandarin and English.

Well I agree that Mandarin is going to be the language of the future...I will teach my children (if I'm given) Mandarin.
hahaha yeah it is really hard to motivate yourself to learn it...my mum actually told me that she will 'chuck' me in China for 6 months to learn Chinese...

I just hope that she will not do that....However before Chinese I want to learn Latin in University and then maybe other languages.

for the concern bro !!