Hey all

I've been talking to this girl for some time now who's from Nepal and half-Indian. As she works with me I rather not fu-k things up and prefer to make my move with both eyes open. I've been stalling her for quite some time now too so the spark may have been lost over time, however, I plan to give it a shot and see what happens.

We're so far cool with each other, she seems very easy to talk to, very sweet. But I don't know her very well. I have absolutely no idea about Nepal either then the fact that it's wedged in between India and Tibet. I don't know much of the culture/traditions/etc. What are Nepalese girls like in general? How does Nepalese feel about Mongolian people? She mentioned that her great grandfather was Mongolian, though she also does seem a little intimidated at times, almost as if she slapped the 'barbarian' label on my forehead.

Any advice would be appreciated

Nepalese culture is quite similar to Indian culture. If you already have some knowledge of Indian culture and traditions, then that should be fine.

I often wonder why the Nepalese Royal Family look like they are of Mughal stock, but the rest of their populations look Asiatic?

Their national flag is quite uniquely shaped.

I think it all depends on individuals. Likings and dislikes vary for each individual. As far as Nepalese culture is concerned it is similar to the Indian culture.


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Mughal stock? This is madness!

Heh I guess I'll start learning about Indian culture then but I don't know where to start. Are there certain things I should keep an eye out for? Dos and don't dos for example?

I'm seeing her again at either library at the college or at work so probably this week or next. See how it goes, been two months stalling her but I guess it's time to make my move. My last date in this little country town turned out to be a pothead so DAMN, I hope my luck changes with this one

Subotai in love !?!?!?!?


Good luck to you bro, all the best wishes.

Why don't you just ask her out and ask her these questions? I'm sure she'll like that you're interested in her background.

Nah not that fast bro, there was some spark before but I stalled her for two months so hopefully it's still there heh.

Cheers



Sure but some knowledge of it beforehand can help
I'll be fine I guess but still open for any advice anyone can give me

All my Nepalese friends were almost no different from Indians. I told one Nepali dude "hook me up with a sherpa girl" and he said "ewww they're all ugly". haha.

He looks Mongoloid to me:





He's Nepalese:

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showuser=74819

Like Juicy said, you could try asking her these questions yourself. I'm sure she might be flattered by your interest in her culture. You should also try found out whether she's open to dating guys outside of her community or even if she's into dating before marriage at all (this is always an issue in a lot of South Asian families). But since she comes from a mixed background herself, it might not be such a big deal for her. Anyway, good luck hitting it off, mate.

Aren't the Nepali Royal Family of Rajput ancestry??

Yes, Prince Dipendra did indeed look partly 'Mongoloid', and so did his younger sister Princess Shruti. But his parents and younger brother looked more 'North Indian'. Anyway, this is not unusual with many Nepali people. Afterall, it is sandwiched between India and Tibet.

Yes they have Rajput ancestry. Nepali Royal family also have had marriages with other Hindu royal families of Northern India. So they are related to each other.


Yes you're right. Populations having similar culture tend to interact and copulate with each other. Also facial features in Nepal just like any other region in the world tend to change gradually with the climate, there is no sudden change in facial features. Anyway I don't think there is any such thing called "Mongoloid", the human species is too diverse and complex to be categorized into such simple divisions.

I don't know what @tangawizi meant by this comment of hers. This is simply incorrect.

I'm sure you guys might already know this, but Prince Dipendra was the guy who massacred his entire family back in 2001:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_royal_massacre

I didn't realize the guy I posted was him.

I know that mt. everest is in nepal and the monarchy was just overthrown by a new parliamentary government. There are also strong maoist supporters in the country.

Right on target @Jagger. I was like Prince Dipendra okie nice, till you pointed out that he is the same man who massacred his own family.

Anyone who's interested in knowing more about the massacre, and the events leading up to it should read the book "Blood Against the Snows" by Jonathan Gregson. It's really intriguing and moving but avoids sensationalism. There's also alot of background information on the modern history of Nepal, and the Shah dynasty.

From what I know, Prince Dipendra (of the Shah dynasty) massacred his family just because they wouldn't let him marry Devyani Rana (of the rival Rana dynasty) and then he suicided. You could say it's quite similar to Seung-Hui Cho's suicide attack at Virginia Tech last year, but probably even worse considering it was his own family.

Actually, the situation was far more complicated than that.

It's true that there had always been this huge rivalry between the Shahs and the Ranas, but Prince Dipendra's wish and plan to marry Devyani Rana was mainly opposed by his mother Queen Aishwarya, and it wasn't because Devyani happened to be a member of the Rana clan. In fact, Princess Shruti who was Dipendra's younger sister was married to a wealthy Rana named Gorakh Kumar Rana, and despite the fierce rivalry, inter-clan marriage between the Shahs and Ranas wasn't all that unusual or uncommon. (It's sort of like a Manchester United fan deciding to get together with a Manchester City fan to have a nice cup of tea. Pardon my terrible analogy)

But what made the Queen vehemently oppose the marriage was that she happened to have had a row with Deyani's mother Usha Rana. This happened shortly after discreet enquiries were made about the Prince's marriage plans. Bascially what Devyani's mother said to the Queen was that their family was descended from the Maharajas of Gwalior who were an extremely wealthy and influential Indian princely family implying that the Nepali royal family wasn't good enough for their daughter. This really pissed the Queen off, and basically ruled out her changing her mind about Dipendra's marriage to Devyani. But there were also other reasons for Queen Aishwarya strongly objecting to the marriage which were more speculative in nature such as there had been an impure intercaste marriage in the distant past in Devyani's family, that Devyani's astrological signs didn't match those of Dipendra's, that they weren't of pure Rajput stock....and the list went on and on.

His marriage was also opposed by his sister Princess Shruti, but he was also disappointed with his father King Birendra who even though didn't openly object to his marriage plans, remained indifferent to the situation, and didn't really show any support towards his son nor did he take effective actions to find a resolution. Finally he was becoming jealous of his younger brother Prince Nirajan who had always been the Queen's favourite. All of this compounded by the fact that Dipendra was a heavy drinker, and was high from time to time finally led to the massacre.

Interesting read fellas, damn... she looks real Mongol though - it's weird - yet she's half Nepalese half Indian , I couldn't see the half-indian in her until she told me . She has the right features though, hell her face looks kinda like this model. (Especially the pic on the far right)



She's not as shaped though, a tad more smaller... but still nice

Oh heck I hope she doesn't read this cause then...
I had my ex find me on this forum, so I'm still bloody paranoid

You think she's from Moghul stock? Ne ways doesn't explain why she said I should attend church again or some $hit - I didn't say anything bad to her

Damn it, when it comes to other women I'm like , but when it comes to my own (or looks like my own) I'm like

Well the Mughal royalty did come from Mongol peoples at one point or not? Weren't they part of the same empire?

neways, the current king Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev really looks Mughal to me...north indian nawab? He doesn't look anything like his subjects..

Okay point taken. Babur's tribe was a Mongol tribe but they converted to Islam and adopted Turkic and Persian cultures. Whether they were part of the same or different empire is another matter.


Your post doesn't make any sense to me. First you should know that Hindu kings are not of Mughal origins. Nepalis are Nepalis, just like Chinese are Chinese and Japanese are Japaneses and Koreans are Koreans. Their facial features don't make them Mongol.

When you say Nawab it means Muslim aristocracy. Nawabs were muslim nobles. They have no connection with Nepali royalty.

Nepali royalty do look like it's subjects. Royals are just fatter than the average Nepali because royals get plenty to eat and throw.


She is very pretty. Btw the pic of the model you posted she is also Nepali?

No, she's Mongolian, but this Nepalese/Indian chick looks just like her, just a tad darker/more petite

HAWT!!! And I don't wanna screw up

Her Nepalese parent is probably Mongoloid and her Indian parent probably is too:

Babur was apparently descended from both Timur and Chingis Khan. Some historians thus view the Mughal Empire of India as a continuation of the Timurid Empire of Persia and Central Asia, since the Mughal Empire began almost immediately after the Timurid Empire ended. Of course, both of these empires were distinct from the Mongol Empire.


Uh, their two different people.

The first is Udita Goswami, whose father is half-Nepali and half-Indian and whose mother is an Assamese from the Northeast Indian state of Assam. She is a Bollywood actress, which you probably already know by now.

The second is Akuonuo Khezhie, a Naga girl from the Northeast Indian state of Nagaland. She was a contestant on Miss India 2007 and won the "Fresh Face" award for obvious reasons.

^Uh, I'm aware. Where did I say it was the same person?

That's the thing... you didn't say anything. You just posted a pic of Akuonuo seemingly out of nowhere.

I have sensed that you're a bit apprehensive in your approach may be of the fear that if something could get awry. That makes me think that you're serious about her, which could lead to marriage perhaps. So go ahead and all the very best.


Okay you have made a nice point. This family tree of Babur says it all.


Babur was a descendant of Timur from his father's side, while he descends from Chingis Khan (Genghis Khan) from his mother's side. He really had a very powerful and famous bloodline.


I used to think that Udita's father is from Uttarakhand. How come that makes him half Nepali?

That's an interesting family tree. I didn't really know much about his mother's side of the family before. But yeah, Babur's family tree has a lot of famous people... from Chingis Khan (founder of the Mongol Empire), to Chagatai Khan (founder of the Chagatai Khanate), Timur the Lame (founder of the Timurid Dynasty), Babur (founder of the Mughal Empire), Jalaluddin Akbar the Great (greatest Mughal emperor), Salim Jahangir (hero of Mughal-e-Azam), and Shah Jahan (builder of Taj Mahal), all the way up to Bahadur Shah II (leader of the Indian Rebellion against the British). After the rebellion, Bahadur Shah was exiled to Burma by the British in 1857, but it seems his descendants returned to India some time after that.

And I'm sure you might have already seen this before, but here's a picture of Bahadur Shah II in 1857, the only picture ever taken of a Mughal/Timurid ruler:



And a picture of his sons at the time:




I used to think Udita's father was Nepali-UPite, but I guess I was wrong. I checked up on IMDB and it seems that her parents are both Assamese and that she was born in Uttarakhand.

Awww cheers mate, I haven't really thought that far but... damn I like her style



Wow, I never knew the Mughal empire had so depth in India's history. Very interesting, very informative posts - much appreciated. I've heard about Bahadur Shah but never knew what he did exactly. My contribution: I'm think Shah means ruler, Bahadur sounds like the Turkish word Bahadir, which was changed from Batur. Batur/Baatar in Mongolian and Bahadir in Turkish means "Hero" or "Heroic"

I guess his name suited his role quite perfectly - "Heroic Ruler"

A lot of Indian and Nepali girls usually do think that far though... so you better be prepared for it.


I always knew Bahadur means "Heroic" in Persian and several Indic languages, but never knew it also means the same thing in Mongolian and Turkic languages?

Bahadur Shah was the last Mughal emperor (although the Mughal Empire was tiny in his time) and he played an important role during the 1857 Indian Rebellion, which brought an end to the powerful British East India Company... but at the same time, the Mughal legacy in India also came to an end when the British Empire exiled him to Burma the following year.

I posted them as examples of Indians with Mongoloid features. How was the pic of Akuono random?

The description you gave above both pictures matched Udita's profile but had nothing to do with Akuonuo... but don't mind me, I just like nitpicking for no good reason. ^_^

I can tell... and the description I gave fit Akuono as well. I said something about Indians with Mongoloid features.

But Akuonuo doesn't have a Nepalese parent... and neither does Udita for that matter but I thought she did... so I guess your description doesn't match either of their profiles.

Kumari Devi she happens to be a godesss

There's also Ram Bahadur Bomjon, the "Buddha Boy":

You're still confused. I was responding to Subotai's comments about his girlfriend's ancestry. I said that her Nepalese parent probably has Mongoloid features and her Indian parents probably looks like them.

Then why didn't you say that in the first place?

And don't you mean Subotai's future girlfriend?