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zstar
One figure i despise is Lee teng hui

He is no doubt the biggest traitor ever to walk among Chinese poltics and a coward and he has continously conspired to keep the party weak while remaining a "key figure".This man is a traitor, a fraud and unworthy to lead even a horde and if i had it my way i would put him on trial and sentence him to death.
Chinese DesertFox
He deserves nothing less than a slow and painful death, afterwhich he will rot within the shackles of hell for all eternity.
MING-LOYALIST
I hate the bastard to the bone. madgo.gif
But I want to know what some of our Taiwanese friends think of him, especially my lady ZurrichGirl. biggrin.gif
nPm858
My whole entire family hates him. Whenever we see him on TV talking, my parents would turn it off. Oh... they do this to Bush too... hehe
福州市长
i hate him too.. i wish i could chop him to pieces and cook him in seseme chicken style.

i also talk to myself that if i become a terroist, first perosn i gonna kill is Lee Teng Hui
Jasel
lol didnt know who the guy was but just looked him up. Can understand why some ppl wouldn't approve of him embarassedlaugh.gif
直隸總督
He's not as bad as you think. Li Denghui peacefully removed Hao Buocun's military power and became the real chairman of KMT. Li also held the first democratic presidential election in Taiwan.
ComradeJing
Thats not the issue. The issue is that he is a traitor. Wang Jingwei was a fairly accomplished politician and broke ranks with Jiang's KMT, but we all know how that ended up.
caolucai
no offense, but mainland Chinese shouldn't participate in this conversation cuz none of what the man ever did effected you guys in any way. despite how the CCP treats Taiwan in the international arena, i don't hate mao, jiang, nor hu. lee would only be a traitor from the KMT's perspective, yet ultimately, he brought forth more democracy and freedom to the Taiwanese people. how can Taiwan be truly democratic if we don't alternate the ruling party from time to time icon_neutral.gif
直隸總督
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he brought forth more democracy and freedom to the Taiwanese people. how can Taiwan be truly democratic if we don't alternate the ruling party from time to time

I fully agree.
Besides, I don't like how Li said Diaoyutai belonged to Japan, but his words didn't affect anything much.
QUOTE
我也很希望台湾和中国可以直航可是如果要逼迫我们以国内航班的名义的话那我宁可不要

Well, Taiwan and mainland are both China, therefore I believe it's ok to make it domestic.
chinowei
QUOTE (caolucai @ Aug 26 2004, 04:22 PM)
no offense, but mainland Chinese shouldn't participate in this conversation cuz none of what the man ever did effected you guys in any way. despite how the CCP treats Taiwan in the international arena, i don't hate mao, jiang, nor hu. lee would only be a traitor from the KMT's perspective, yet ultimately, he brought forth more democracy and freedom to the Taiwanese people. how can Taiwan be truly democratic if we don't alternate the ruling party from time to time icon_neutral.gif

我也很希望台湾和中国可以直航可是如果要逼迫我们以国内航班的名义的话那我宁可不要 icon_sad.gif

sorry... if u don't like it..go die
caolucai
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ Aug 26 2004, 05:18 PM)
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he brought forth more democracy and freedom to the Taiwanese people. how can Taiwan be truly democratic if we don't alternate the ruling party from time to time

I fully agree.
Besides, I don't like how Li said Diaoyutai belonged to Japan, but his words didn't affect anything much.
QUOTE
我也很希望台湾和中国可以直航可是如果要逼迫我们以国内航班的名义的话那我宁可不要

Well, Taiwan and mainland are both China, therefore I believe it's ok to make it domestic.

HAHAHAHAHAH, accidently put my reply in the wrong post, sorry embarassedlaugh.gif
caolucai
QUOTE (chinowei @ Aug 26 2004, 05:21 PM)
QUOTE (caolucai @ Aug 26 2004, 04:22 PM)
no offense, but mainland Chinese shouldn't participate in this conversation cuz none of what the man ever did effected you guys in any way. despite how the CCP treats Taiwan in the international arena, i don't hate mao, jiang, nor hu. lee would only be a traitor from the KMT's perspective, yet ultimately, he brought forth more democracy and freedom to the Taiwanese people. how can Taiwan be truly democratic if we don't alternate the ruling party from time to time icon_neutral.gif

我也很希望台湾和中国可以直航可是如果要逼迫我们以国内航班的名义的话那我宁可不要 icon_sad.gif

sorry... if u don't like it..go die

現在的年輕人真不像話...一點禮貌都沒有...又沒風度...動不動就叫人去死...毛主席是如何教導你的

sorry, accidently double posted icon_sad.gif
Jasel
QUOTE (chinowei @ Aug 26 2004, 05:21 PM)
QUOTE (caolucai @ Aug 26 2004, 04:22 PM)
no offense, but mainland Chinese shouldn't participate in this conversation cuz none of what the man ever did effected you guys in any way. despite how the CCP treats Taiwan in the international arena, i don't hate mao, jiang, nor hu. lee would only be a traitor from the KMT's perspective, yet ultimately, he brought forth more democracy and freedom to the Taiwanese people. how can Taiwan be truly democratic if we don't alternate the ruling party from time to time icon_neutral.gif

我也很希望台湾和中国可以直航可是如果要逼迫我们以国内航班的名义的话那我宁可不要 icon_sad.gif

sorry... if u don't like it..go die

watch it

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zstar
ironically he was a former communist and a japanese sympathiser and he's connected to shintaro ishihara.

QUOTE
He's not as bad as you think. Li Denghui peacefully removed Hao Buocun's military power and became the real chairman of KMT. Li also held the first democratic presidential election in Taiwan.


yes and now he gave power to the separatist which was not in line with KMT intentions which is that Taiwan belongs to the Nationalist govt.
直隸總督
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yes and now he gave power to the separatist which was not in line with KMT intentions which is that Taiwan belongs to the Nationalist govt.

Gave power? Chen Shuibian was elected by the people.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Lee Teng Hui is 10,000 times better than Mao, Deng, Jiang, Zhu and Li combined.
zstar
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Gave power? Chen Shuibian was elected by the people


You're missing the point even though this guy was a chairman of the KMT he was hardcore independence and handed power over to people like the uncharasmatic Lien chan in order to keep the party down and his policy is out of line with the real KMT intentions because the KMT is the chiense nationalist party not the "Taiwan nationalist party" so this man conspired to form a separate nation despite the fact that it violated what the party represents so basically a party built on blood, sweat and tears was turned into a joke.
nPm858
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 27 2004, 06:54 AM)
Lee Teng Hui is 10,000 times better than Mao, Deng, Jiang, Zhu and Li combined.

Do you also think he is 10,000 times better than Ho Chi Mihn?
fk650
I wish Lee Tenghui could be assassinated. I'd be so happy.
直隸總督
QUOTE (zstar @ Aug 27 2004, 06:27 AM)
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Gave power? Chen Shuibian was elected by the people


You're missing the point even though this guy was a chairman of the KMT he was hardcore independence and handed power over to people like the uncharasmatic Lien chan in order to keep the party down and his policy is out of line with the real KMT intentions because the KMT is the chiense nationalist party not the "Taiwan nationalist party" so this man conspired to form a separate nation despite the fact that it violated what the party represents so basically a party built on blood, sweat and tears was turned into a joke.

Whom else could he pass the power to? Lian Zhan was uncharismatic but the most well-known , experienced KMT politician. Besides, Lian was his vice president and he'd been a prime minister for a long time. KMT's future is not very bright. Lian Zhan is stupid, Song Chuyu is corrupted, Wong Jinping is an old cunning fox, Ma Yingjiu hasn't accomplished anything great.
caolucai
^^說得好說得好 beerchug.gif

QUOTE (zstar @ Aug 27 2004, 08:27 AM)
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Gave power? Chen Shuibian was elected by the people


You're missing the point even though this guy was a chairman of the KMT he was hardcore independence and handed power over to people like the uncharasmatic Lien chan in order to keep the party down and his policy is out of line with the real KMT intentions because the KMT is the chiense nationalist party not the "Taiwan nationalist party" so this man conspired to form a separate nation despite the fact that it violated what the party represents so basically a party built on blood, sweat and tears was turned into a joke.

i think you're the one missing the big picture here. everyone knew his intentions, yet the people voted and CHEN won. despite his motives, the taiwanese people now have more freedom and democracy. the KMT had to nominate LIEN for presidency, they went by seniority and not popularity, if it was the other way around, then y didn't they nominate MA for 2004 elections? you have to look at this from the taiwanese people's perspective, what are they getting out of this.
Pureblood Warrior
QUOTE (zstar @ Aug 26 2004, 05:41 AM)
One figure i despise is Lee teng hui

He is no doubt the biggest traitor ever to walk among Chinese poltics and a  coward and he has continously conspired to keep the party weak while remaining a "key figure".This man is a traitor, a fraud and unworthy to lead even a horde and if i had it my way i would put him on trial and sentence him to death.

what type of fuked up fumes have you been inhaling you moron.

He is the father of Taiwanese politics. Not a communist puppet. Taiwan is not chinese. He therefore doesn't conduct himself in ur chinese pseudo politics. He is a man of more than 80years of age, actively engaged in politics, prevailed in a potentially life threatening power struggle with KMT hardlining generals who refused to back down. Lets see if you have the courage and capability when your that age. Moron. icon_rolleyes.gif

NQSH, Caolucai beerchug.gif
MING-LOYALIST
QUOTE (Pureblood Warrior @ Aug 28 2004, 11:34 PM)
QUOTE (zstar @ Aug 26 2004, 05:41 AM)

what type of fuked up fumes have you been inhaling you moron.

He is the father of Taiwanese politics. Not a communist puppet. Taiwan is not chinese. He therefore doesn't conduct himself in ur chinese pseudo politics. He is a man of more than 80years of age, actively engaged in politics, prevailed in a potentially life threatening power struggle with KMT hardlining generals who refused to back down. Lets see if you have the courage and capability when your that age. Moron. icon_rolleyes.gif

NQSH, Caolucai beerchug.gif

You are too brainwashed man, are you saying Chiang Kai shek and his son are communist puppets? embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
You a idiot.
Pureblood Warrior
QUOTE (MING-LOYALIST @ Aug 28 2004, 11:47 PM)
QUOTE (Pureblood Warrior @ Aug 28 2004, 11:34 PM)
QUOTE (zstar @ Aug 26 2004, 05:41 AM)

what type of fuked up fumes have you been inhaling you moron.

He is the father of Taiwanese politics. Not a communist puppet. Taiwan is not chinese. He therefore doesn't conduct himself in ur chinese pseudo politics. He is a man of more than 80years of age, actively engaged in politics, prevailed in a potentially life threatening power struggle with KMT hardlining generals who refused to back down. Lets see if you have the courage and capability when your that age. Moron. icon_rolleyes.gif

NQSH, Caolucai beerchug.gif

You are too brainwashed man, are you saying Chiang Kai shek and his son are communist puppets? embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
You a idiot.

you dont get it do you, friend? embarassedlaugh.gif


He isn't chinese. he's policies are for the taiwanese people. He heads the TSU. he never supported the chinese nationalist to begin with, even when working for the KMT, as he had his own agenda. He therefore betrayed nobody. It is obvious that nobody had the vision to match his, otherwise he wouldn't have risen to where he is now.

As for CKS and his son? Well CKS is a big headed street punk who got lucky, was in the right place at the right time and it was because of him, that taiwan is so fuked in the international stage right now. When the CCP became recognised as legitimate government of China. America offered him a seat as Taiwan but the self righteous @$$hole thought he was bigger than us and now he's screwed all 23million taiwanese over. I have a better impression of his son, though he was one ugly bastard embarassedlaugh.gif....j/k. seriously though he wasn't as good looking a bloke as his father.
Chinese DesertFox
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 27 2004, 06:54 AM)
Lee Teng Hui is 10,000 times better than Mao, Deng, Jiang, Zhu and Li combined.

Oh really?

Because any one of those Chinese leaders that you mentioned are at least 10 billion times better than all Viet leaders combined.

So...you really shouldn't talk.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Chinese DesertFox @ Aug 29 2004, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 27 2004, 06:54 AM)
Lee Teng Hui is 10,000 times better than Mao, Deng, Jiang, Zhu and Li combined.

Oh really?

Because any one of those Chinese leaders that you mentioned are at least 10 billion times better than all Viet leaders combined.

So...you really shouldn't talk.

None of those Chinese leaders even worth a finger nail of Uncle Ho Chi Minh, my friend embarassedlaugh.gif

You forgot that your dear Mao poo indirectly killed 30 million of you Chinese comrades in the 60's and 70's.

Chinese people do have short memory.

Ho Chi Minh fought a heroic war to gain independence and pride for the homeland. Mao butchered his own people and deflowered young girls. embarassedlaugh.gif
Derek
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Ho Chi Minh fought a heroic war to gain independence and pride for the homeland.


Thanks for the joke, commie. embarassedlaugh.gif
zstar
QUOTE (Pureblood Warrior @ Aug 28 2004, 11:34 PM)
QUOTE (zstar @ Aug 26 2004, 05:41 AM)
One figure i despise is Lee teng hui

He is no doubt the biggest traitor ever to walk among Chinese poltics and a  coward and he has continously conspired to keep the party weak while remaining a "key figure".This man is a traitor, a fraud and unworthy to lead even a horde and if i had it my way i would put him on trial and sentence him to death.

what type of fuked up fumes have you been inhaling you moron.

He is the father of Taiwanese politics. Not a communist puppet. Taiwan is not chinese. He therefore doesn't conduct himself in ur chinese pseudo politics. He is a man of more than 80years of age, actively engaged in politics, prevailed in a potentially life threatening power struggle with KMT hardlining generals who refused to back down. Lets see if you have the courage and capability when your that age. Moron. icon_rolleyes.gif

NQSH, Caolucai beerchug.gif

first of all if you call me a moron again i will report your flat yellow @$$ to the mods

secondly you just said it he was not pro chinese so why should he lead a pro chinese party?

lastly he's gutless and never fought in any war so he had no right to speak
ComradeJing
Lee Teng Hui is a traitor, of that there is no doubt. However, looking back in hindsight, James Soong has been equally treacherous. It was because of Soong that Hui was not toppled by an internal KMT coup. If Soong had not intervened to pacify the wsr generals, we wouldn't be having these nativist "Taiwanese" (read j@p wannabe running dogs) in the government and causing troubles.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (zstar @ Sep 1 2004, 01:46 AM)
QUOTE (Pureblood Warrior @ Aug 28 2004, 11:34 PM)
QUOTE (zstar @ Aug 26 2004, 05:41 AM)
One figure i despise is Lee teng hui

He is no doubt the biggest traitor ever to walk among Chinese poltics and a  coward and he has continously conspired to keep the party weak while remaining a "key figure".This man is a traitor, a fraud and unworthy to lead even a horde and if i had it my way i would put him on trial and sentence him to death.

what type of fuked up fumes have you been inhaling you moron.

He is the father of Taiwanese politics. Not a communist puppet. Taiwan is not chinese. He therefore doesn't conduct himself in ur chinese pseudo politics. He is a man of more than 80years of age, actively engaged in politics, prevailed in a potentially life threatening power struggle with KMT hardlining generals who refused to back down. Lets see if you have the courage and capability when your that age. Moron. icon_rolleyes.gif

NQSH, Caolucai beerchug.gif

first of all if you call me a moron again i will report your flat yellow @$$ to the mods

secondly you just said it he was not pro chinese so why should he lead a pro chinese party?

lastly he's gutless and never fought in any war so he had no right to speak

Has Jiang Zeming fought any war? Also, do you have to fight a war to have the right to speak? Hasn't most of the wars in this world were initiated by people who knows absolutely nothing about the nature of war and suffering?
ComradeJing
Actually Jiang Zemin did participate in the latter phase of the Chinese civil war. I don't think he was a soldier, but he was a communist party member by 1946. Lee Teng Hui also ironically joined the CCP towards the end of the civil war, but renounced his allegiance and sold out his comrades to save his own worthless life when the KMT retreated to Taiwan.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Oh wells in that case I understand why certain mainlanders loath him so much. But anyway, he should be given credit for transforming Taiwan into a parliamentary Democracy.

Mao Tse Dong, on the other hand was a good leader in time of war but a bad one in time of peace. Just look at how disastrous were the Cultural Revolution and The Great Leap Forward. Also, he was known to have deflowered young girls and never brushed his teeth. pukeface.gif
Derek
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Sep 1 2004, 02:21 AM)
Mao Tse Dong, on the other hand was a good leader in time of war but a bad one in time of peace. Just look at how disastrous were the Cultural Revolution and The Great Leap Forward. Also, he was known to have deflowered young girls and never brushed his teeth. pukeface.gif

he reminds me of viet commies.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
I think you should shut the fu-k up and stop using the word Commie in every single one of your post. We know they are Commies but it's abit of a nuisance if you keep repeating it.
zstar
Let's get one thing straight i am NOT a pro communist and i am not a pro American

I believe the Chinese people must be lead by a correct leader which will lead the Chinese people to a Democratic revolution free of foreign influence and hardcore leftists.
Derek
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Sep 1 2004, 02:30 AM)
I think you should shut the fu-k up and stop using the word Commie in every single one of your post. We know they are Commies but it's abit of a nuisance if you keep repeating it.

whateva, commie. embarassedlaugh.gif
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Derek @ Sep 1 2004, 02:31 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Sep 1 2004, 02:30 AM)
I think you should shut the fu-k up and stop using the word Commie in every single one of your post. We know they are Commies but it's abit of a nuisance if you keep repeating it.

whateva, commie. embarassedlaugh.gif

I can easily get you a warning if you asks me to.
ComradeJing
Please don't tell me you got that information from "The Private Life of Chairman Mao"? You of all people should be warry of trusting so called personal accounts of Communist leaders published in America. Much of the information in the book is fabrication, propaganda published by American rightists.
Rasree
QUOTE (nPm858 @ Aug 26 2004, 02:09 PM)
My whole entire family hates him. Whenever we see him on TV talking, my parents would turn it off. Oh... they do this to Bush too... hehe

mys too ,ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh,maybe we are in the same family embarassedlaugh.gif
Pureblood Warrior
QUOTE (zstar @ Sep 1 2004, 01:46 AM)
QUOTE (Pureblood Warrior @ Aug 28 2004, 11:34 PM)
QUOTE (zstar @ Aug 26 2004, 05:41 AM)
One figure i despise is Lee teng hui

He is no doubt the biggest traitor ever to walk among Chinese poltics and a  coward and he has continously conspired to keep the party weak while remaining a "key figure".This man is a traitor, a fraud and unworthy to lead even a horde and if i had it my way i would put him on trial and sentence him to death.

what type of fuked up fumes have you been inhaling you moron.

He is the father of Taiwanese politics. Not a communist puppet. Taiwan is not chinese. He therefore doesn't conduct himself in ur chinese pseudo politics. He is a man of more than 80years of age, actively engaged in politics, prevailed in a potentially life threatening power struggle with KMT hardlining generals who refused to back down. Lets see if you have the courage and capability when your that age. Moron. icon_rolleyes.gif

NQSH, Caolucai beerchug.gif

first of all if you call me a moron again i will report your flat yellow @$$ to the mods

secondly you just said it he was not pro chinese so why should he lead a pro chinese party?

lastly he's gutless and never fought in any war so he had no right to speak

Actually, FYI all the ladies luv my a$$. I get groped and approached in every club I go. Every inch of me drives them hot and horny. If i keep talking, you might commit suicide out of jealousy though, and as a responsible member of society, I would not like to see that happen..

Are you saying that you wouldn't take the opportunity to further your own ends regardless what it was? In politics you don't get the luxury of black and white distinction. You take any advantage you can get and you use it to catapult ur standings like smart man Lee did.

secondly you just said it he was not pro chinese so why should he lead a pro chinese party?

because hes smart enough to manipulate the short sighted fools

lastly he's gutless and never fought in any war so he had no right to speak

Ok so I suppose you have fought a war and have participated in politics where martial law was in place for close to 50 year?? embarassedlaugh.gif

what are you anyway? a fu-king ccp worshipping white or something? if so get ur head out of ur otherwise yellow @$$ and out of this conversation for you know nothing about it base fool.
Chinese DesertFox
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 31 2004, 10:15 PM)
QUOTE (Chinese DesertFox @ Aug 29 2004, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 27 2004, 06:54 AM)
Lee Teng Hui is 10,000 times better than Mao, Deng, Jiang, Zhu and Li combined.

Oh really?

Because any one of those Chinese leaders that you mentioned are at least 10 billion times better than all Viet leaders combined.

So...you really shouldn't talk.

None of those Chinese leaders even worth a finger nail of Uncle Ho Chi Minh, my friend embarassedlaugh.gif

You forgot that your dear Mao poo indirectly killed 30 million of you Chinese comrades in the 60's and 70's.

Chinese people do have short memory.

Ho Chi Minh fought a heroic war to gain independence and pride for the homeland. Mao butchered his own people and deflowered young girls. embarassedlaugh.gif

Yada yada yada, I think you've been reading that BS book way too many times to satisfy your own anti anything Chinese stance. sure.gif

真可笑!
caolucai
QUOTE (Chinese DesertFox @ Sep 1 2004, 09:46 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 31 2004, 10:15 PM)
QUOTE (Chinese DesertFox @ Aug 29 2004, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 27 2004, 06:54 AM)
Lee Teng Hui is 10,000 times better than Mao, Deng, Jiang, Zhu and Li combined.

Oh really?

Because any one of those Chinese leaders that you mentioned are at least 10 billion times better than all Viet leaders combined.

So...you really shouldn't talk.

None of those Chinese leaders even worth a finger nail of Uncle Ho Chi Minh, my friend embarassedlaugh.gif

You forgot that your dear Mao poo indirectly killed 30 million of you Chinese comrades in the 60's and 70's.

Chinese people do have short memory.

Ho Chi Minh fought a heroic war to gain independence and pride for the homeland. Mao butchered his own people and deflowered young girls. embarassedlaugh.gif

Yada yada yada, I think you've been reading that BS book way too many times to satisfy your own anti anything Chinese stance. sure.gif

真可笑!

hmmm, this makes me wonder....

what does the CCP teach Chinese kids these days about MAO? do the textbooks criticize him and the Cultural Revolution? confused.gif
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Chinese DesertFox @ Sep 1 2004, 09:46 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 31 2004, 10:15 PM)
QUOTE (Chinese DesertFox @ Aug 29 2004, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 27 2004, 06:54 AM)
Lee Teng Hui is 10,000 times better than Mao, Deng, Jiang, Zhu and Li combined.

Oh really?

Because any one of those Chinese leaders that you mentioned are at least 10 billion times better than all Viet leaders combined.

So...you really shouldn't talk.

None of those Chinese leaders even worth a finger nail of Uncle Ho Chi Minh, my friend embarassedlaugh.gif

You forgot that your dear Mao poo indirectly killed 30 million of you Chinese comrades in the 60's and 70's.

Chinese people do have short memory.

Ho Chi Minh fought a heroic war to gain independence and pride for the homeland. Mao butchered his own people and deflowered young girls. embarassedlaugh.gif

Yada yada yada, I think you've been reading that BS book way too many times to satisfy your own anti anything Chinese stance. sure.gif

真可笑!

You're too brainwashed by Mao poo to take accept the truth. icon_rolleyes.gif
nPm858
Mao doesn't represent every Chinese leader. Just becuase we have one bad leader doesn't mean all our leaders are bad. So you're saying that Ho Chi Mihn is better than all the Chinese leaders combined? Almost all of the Chinese leaders are pretty known through out the world. The only Vietnamese leader I hear about is Ho Chi Mihn and my dad's side is from Vietnam. I don't even think they know the current president of Vietnam. I personally think Ho Chi Mihn was a good leader, but I don't believe he is better than all the Chinese leaders combined. Sure, he is better than some Chinese leaders, but some Chinese leaders are also better than him. Well, the last time I heard Ho Chi Mihn's name was when someone vandalized a shop keeper's shop becuase they had a picture of Ho Chi Mihn in their shop.

Anyways, I think Lee Teng Hui rather call himself Japanese than Han...
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (nPm858 @ Sep 2 2004, 09:29 AM)
Mao doesn't represent every Chinese leader. Just becuase we have one bad leader doesn't mean all our leaders are bad. So you're saying that Ho Chi Mihn is better than all the Chinese leaders combined? Almost all of the Chinese leaders are pretty known through out the world. The only Vietnamese leader I hear about is Ho Chi Mihn and my dad's side is from Vietnam. I don't even think they know the current president of Vietnam. I personally think Ho Chi Mihn was a good leader, but I don't believe he is better than all the Chinese leaders combined. Sure, he is better than some Chinese leaders, but some Chinese leaders are also better than him. Well, the last time I heard Ho Chi Mihn's name was when someone vandalized a shop keeper's shop becuase they had a picture of Ho Chi Mihn in their shop.

Anyways, I think Lee Teng Hui rather call himself Japanese than Han...

Obviously it's an exaggeration I used to make my point. icon_rolleyes.gif

So you think if a leader is well known internationally then he must be good? And that because the Vietnamese leaders are rather obscure then they mustn't be very competent? George W. Bush is a moron and he's the most recognizable person in the world icon_rolleyes.gif
Jasel
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Sep 2 2004, 08:13 PM)
So you think if a leader is well known internationally then he must be good? And that because the Vietnamese leaders are rather obscure then they mustn't be very competent? George W. Bush is a moron and he's the most recognizable person in the world icon_rolleyes.gif

He does have a point.


Warning for Derek also for flaming.
Chinese DesertFox
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Sep 2 2004, 03:10 AM)
QUOTE (Chinese DesertFox @ Sep 1 2004, 09:46 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 31 2004, 10:15 PM)
QUOTE (Chinese DesertFox @ Aug 29 2004, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 27 2004, 06:54 AM)
Lee Teng Hui is 10,000 times better than Mao, Deng, Jiang, Zhu and Li combined.

Oh really?

Because any one of those Chinese leaders that you mentioned are at least 10 billion times better than all Viet leaders combined.

So...you really shouldn't talk.

None of those Chinese leaders even worth a finger nail of Uncle Ho Chi Minh, my friend embarassedlaugh.gif

You forgot that your dear Mao poo indirectly killed 30 million of you Chinese comrades in the 60's and 70's.

Chinese people do have short memory.

Ho Chi Minh fought a heroic war to gain independence and pride for the homeland. Mao butchered his own people and deflowered young girls. embarassedlaugh.gif

Yada yada yada, I think you've been reading that BS book way too many times to satisfy your own anti anything Chinese stance. sure.gif

真可笑!

You're too brainwashed by Mao poo to take accept the truth. icon_rolleyes.gif

Haha, right.

A last ditch effort to hide your own ignorance. embarassedlaugh.gif
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