QUOTE(Jagger @ Jun 6 2008, 02:49 PM)

, Apache Indian, etc.
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Apache Indian does a Jamaican/Caribbean accent when he sings, he does not rap with a British accent. Even though he is not jamaican.
He mainly uses words such as gyal, bwoy, galang, dung, rahmp, dem, pan, passi, di etc, which are totally patois Jamaican words... Those words are never used in american rap. He does NOT rap in standard English or rarely.
I'm sure a lot of indian people or british people can't even understand what he is saying much less.
He put an Indian girl or guy singing in he's songs occasionally so it is Indian influence in that sense. But the rhythm was still produced in jamaica however and brought back to uk where he sings on that same rhythm in patois.
If you notice the language he uses in he's song sounds very much like shaggy songs.
If you are familiar with Jamaicans songs, you will notice that almost all the song which apache sings to- you will find that about 20 plus Jamaican singers are singing to that same rhythm. Traditional carribean style of several different artist singing to one same rhythm but with using a different song.
Such as this riddim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUK7MeLIcXAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tzOFq5AiRQ...feature=relatedQUOTE(Jagger @ Jun 6 2008, 02:49 PM)

Apache Indian was born and raised in Birmingham, England, a working class city with a large immigrant population, especially of Jamaican and Indian origin. Birmingham is also famous as an epicentre of the UK Reggae scene, and it was there that bands like UB40, Steel Pulse, and Musical Youth first got their break. Apache cherished his Indian heritage and his music reflects the influence of styles like Banghra and Bollywood film music, but it was Reggae and Dancehall that truly fascinated him.
Apache Indian is now regarded as a legend in his field and is recognised as the first true International Asian pop artist. He has achieved 7 top forty UK national hits, won numerous awards, toured the world extensively and has sold more than 11 million albums till now. His songs have been included in over 50 TV commercials as well as been featured in five Hollywood films including Dumb & Dumber, Scooby Doo 2 and Wallace & Gromit. Apache has released seven albums and has collaborated with everyone from Reggae stars Sly & Robbie, Shaggy,
Maxi Priest, Luciano, Yami Bolo and Frankie Paul, Hip Hop stars Tim Dog and Pras (Fugee's), pop icon Boy George and Indian Legends Asha Bhosle and Malkit Singh.
Time for Change, his latest album, is a peaceful message of love and respect for all people in this world. The album has some fantastic collaboration including Pras (Fugee’s), and Luciano and last but not least the track Israelites that features the Great Desmond Dekker. Time for Change has attracted critical acclaim and was nominated for Best World Music Album by the German Music Critics.
The Time for Change World Tour has also kicked off to rave reviews which include headlining WOMAD at Reading and Singapore as well as major reggae festivals such as Chiemsee Reggae Festival and Summerjam Festival in Germany and Rototom Sunsplash in Italy. The tour features Apache’s band The Reggae Revolution (which was Pato Banton’s former band).
So apache Indian does not represent how British rappers sounds at all, regardless that he was born in England.Just as if- a jamaican who lives all her life in jamaica but lived around lots of indian who spoke hindi, so she start grasping the culture and goes to the studio and starts singing in hindi and put out that album. Are you going to say that she represents reggae music just because she is jamaican. Regardless that she is singing hindi to traditional hindi music?It is just like this white dude called "snow" who sings "informer" and other reggae songs.
Although he is from Canada he lived in a community with lots of Jamaicans got influenced and sings just reggae songs in Jamaican patois.
He does not represent the Canadian rapping style.
Canadians can't even understand what he is saying.
informer video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtILxBszyf8Infact reggae/dancehall style of singing is not even called rap so it does not make much sense that I'm agreeing by classing apache as a rap artist, because it is not rap it is called "deejay " rarely called "toasting" , but I'm not gonna get so deep with you.
EDIT- oh, i only just red what you wrote to juicyfruit.
So sorry for my long essay, and sorry for misunderstanding(don't mind me) but i spend too long writing it to delete it now