Greetings Indians.

North, South Vietnam

North South Korea

East West Germany

India Pakistan

Now vietnamese, koreans and germans wanted to be untied. Vietnamese and germans achieved it. Koreans havnt but they want to. When it comes to indians how come there is not even a sentiment of wanting unity??

Why do you want to be seperate when youa re the same people? Atleast the hopeless koreans atleast have the sentiment and desire. Indians dont even have that!

Why?

India-mostly hindus

Pakistans- mostly Muslims.

that's why.

Yes generally but theres actually more muslims in india than than there are in Pakistan because of the sheer number of Indians. So it still doesnt really make sense to me.

But i sort of get not wanting to be around more muslims.

That kinda reminds me of a Omani Muslim friend who has been to both India and Pakistan he said in Pakistan there are exclusively Muslim but no Islam. In India there is Islam but fewer Muslims than Hindus. I suspect he got that from a quote. But generally I kinda think the same Pakistan was created entirely for Muslims it seems where as India was for everyone. It was Muhammad Ali Jinnah I believe who wanted to split the two countries this is despite the fact he faced strong opposition to his ideas by some prominent Muslim MP's too like Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan and Abul Kalam Muhiyuddin Ahmed.

"I am proud of being an Indian. I am part of the indivisible unity that is Indian nationality. I am indispensable to this noble edifice and without me this splendid structure is incomplete. I am an essential element, which has gone to build India. I can never surrender this claim." Abul Kalam Muhiyuddin Ahmed

Whether these two countries can come together only time can tell a very long time. Certainly India wont force the issue but it seems unlikely that the two can come together its been over fifty years and both countries have been shaped vastly differently to one another over the years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Pakistan

What the hell? That qoute doesnt add $hit to the arguement and this thing about being seperated for over 50 years also doesnt mean $hit. North and south korea have also been apart for about 50 years and they are as seperate and different as can be but there is still a sentiment among them (as you would expect among people who are of same race) of wanting to unite and be one again so that they may be stronger and to connect with there fellow man who is more the same to them than anyone else.
I dont get this vibe and sentiment among indiand or pakis. THey dont care if they unite in fact they want to be seperated. The disturbing thing is it seems to be based on a sense of arrogance like India is so good which i dont get. Why indians dont even WANT to unite with there fellow indians in Pakistan?

It seems unnatural.

Dude tone down your language then I'll perhaps engage in discussion with you. I'm not Indian or Pakistani however I am South Asian. I have studied South Asian history at my school. Gathering from what you said there "Indians don't want to unite with there fellow Indians in Pakistan" I think you fallen into the trap of generalisation of just a few peoples thoughts. Can you speak for the Indians themselves I most certainly cannot but I'll throw some more facts.

You said Why indians dont even WANT to unite with there fellow indians in Pakistan? I should clarify that not all fellow Pakistani's or Indians for that matter hate each other. If you think about it for a moment there are a few issues amongst the minds of Koreans they both use the same script and share supposably the same religion before ideas of communism reached the East. India and Pakistan face an entirely different set of issues to what you might percieve as nothing or baseless. Pakistan as afore mention is now largely Muslim. Secular policies were unfortunately largely vanquished due to a number of military coups in the mid 70's further making it difficult for those who were none Muslim or sought to atest the military leaders. On the other hand India had its fair share of trouble too Hindu nationalism during the mid 80's gained pace in the mainly NOrth Western districts of India. There was hope however just after the split that the two might reconcile but there was still the issue of keeping India as one there were many attempts by different states to partition so to think that India and Pakistan could possibly unite easily is fools speak. It could have just as easily split again if it were to again throw its resources at reconciling with Pakistan rather than focus on developing problesm within its own borders. Also worth mentioning maintaining governence in both countries whilst trying to mobilise resources for education, construction and maintaining law and order would clearly have been on both leaders agendas. I would say India faced it tough though since it has a more diverse culture with people of different backgrounds, religions etc

I however doubt that religion is the main reason for India and Pakistan to be kept apart its mostly that both have different policies different agendas and whilst it is still possible to travel between the two and whilst there is affinity between Muslims and Hindus both are run by different governments that still approach each other with caution. If this isn't enough I suggest you do your own search then.

One needs to understand the situations in which India-Pakistan, Germany and North-South Korea were divided. In case of Germany and Koreas at the end of the second world war half of these countries were occupied by the Soviets and the other half by the Allied forces, so the divisions were the outcome of a war. The division was forced upon the Koreans and the Germans because of the ideologies of communism and capitalism. But in case of India and Pakistan the division was somewhat mutual, it happened because many Muslims wanted to have a country of their own, the division was not forced by external forces, but muslims surely had the support of the British at that time. Religion causes more hatred than anything else.