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f3ro300
Prince of Persia

Its based of a Game

Director:Mike Newell

Cast

Jake Gyllenhaal Prince Dastan








Gemma Arterton Indian Princess They changed her name from Farrah to Tamina







Plot

Passing through India en route to Azad, King Sharaman and his son, the Prince of Persia, defeat the powerful Maharajah of India with the promise of honor and glory. After looting the city and capturing a giant hourglass full of sand, a mysterious dagger, and the Maharajah's daughter Farah along with other treasures, they continue to Azad. A dying Vizier, who had betrayed the Maharajah and aided King Sharaman in return for a share of the spoils, demands to have the dagger, as he was promised his choice of the Maharajah's treasures. But Sharaman refuses to take the

dagger from his son, who captured it first. So the Vizier, who wishes to harness the power of the sands in the hourglass for himself, making him an immortal god and giving him control over time itself, tricks the Prince into opening the hourglass. When the Prince uses the dagger to unleash the Sands of Time from the hourglass, the Sands destroy the kingdom and turn all living beings into hideous sand creatures. Only the Prince, the Vizier, and Princess Farah, the kidnapped daughter of the Maharajah, remain unchanged due to their possessions; the Prince's dagger, the Vizier's staff, and Farah's medallion.

Set in medieval Persia, the story of an adventurous prince who teams up with a rival princess to stop an angry ruler from unleashing a sandstorm that could destroy the world. Which is why after the prince was tricked by a dying Vizier to unleash the Sands of Time that turns out to destroy a kingdom and transforms its populace into ferocious demons. In his effort to save his own kingdom and redeem his fatal mistake, it's up to the prince and the princess to return the sands to the hourglass by using the Dagger of Time, which also gives him a limited control over the flow of time.
Blanks
lol. Thats funny. Jake doesnt even remotely look persian.. There are alot of white actors that cud've pulled that off better.

The chick is just ridiculous tho.lol.I mean really...she's pale. If she wants to look like a fair indian she better go get a tan.

I wanted to say john abraham as the prince of persia.That wud've made sense.
And bips cud've done the role of the princess. Now thats at least realistic.
VAMAN
This is a weird casting. John Abraham would be the best to play the Prince of Persia.
Krrish
Will it have songs and dances, that is all I want. Gemma is hot but Tamina is even hotter.
f3ro300
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Jun 17 2008, 12:43 PM) *
This is a weird casting. John Abraham would be the best to play the Prince of Persia.



I know he would be perfect for the role
yhellothar
don't you know? when persians are the bad guys they pick dark skinned non-whites (300). when they're glorified they pick whites. they even thought about casting channing tatum in the role of genghis khan.

lol, white people.
zodiacgrl89
They did not cast John because he can't speak English.
JuicyFruit
Even if he did, he would not be cast nor do I think he should have been.
Tabs
QUOTE(yhellothar @ Jun 17 2008, 03:34 PM) *
don't you know? when persians are the bad guys they pick dark skinned non-whites (300). when they're glorified they pick whites. they even thought about casting channing tatum in the role of genghis khan.

lol, white people.

Tell me a Persian or Indian actor that has cultural cache here in the U.S. and could make them the sort of money Jake Gyllenhaal will by name recognition alone?
Blanks
QUOTE(Tabs @ Jun 17 2008, 03:29 PM) *
Tell me a Persian or Indian actor that has cultural cache here in the U.S. and could make them the sort of money Jake Gyllenhaal will by name recognition alone?



So by ur logic, no one shud ever cast a persian or indian for a roll in a hollywood movie cuz then it wont make money. And the whole pt of movies is to make money right? If they cared to make it realistic they could've at least found a white person that resembles people from the region. Cast a bloody latina for the princess and some white guy with dark features for the prince if u want to use standard hollywood material.
f3ro300
i dont think john would have been casted either since it wont appeal to alot of Americans and Europeans and no one knows about him the only reason he would be good for the role is coz he sorta looks like "Prince of Persia" and he is indian Parsi



Tabs
QUOTE(Blanks @ Jun 17 2008, 06:50 PM) *
So by ur logic, no one shud ever cast a persian or indian for a roll in a hollywood movie cuz then it wont make money. And the whole pt of movies is to make money right? If they cared to make it realistic they could've at least found a white person that resembles people from the region. Cast a bloody latina for the princess and some white guy with dark features for the prince if u want to use standard hollywood material.

They don't care to make it realistic, that's my entire point. They care to make money, and to cast the biggest name willing to sign-on.
kkdkckrl
QUOTE(f3ro300 @ Jun 17 2008, 06:01 PM) *
i dont think john would have been casted either since it wont appeal to alot of Americans and Europeans and no one knows about him the only reason he would be good for the role is coz he sorta looks like "Prince of Persia" and he is indian Parsi


John Abraham is a mallu

EDIT: and a parsi mix
tringazmot
Idiots, their features will be darkened. Just like James Caviezel who played Jesus in the Passion of the Christ (his eyes were digitally changed from blue to brown and he tanned up) and Rodrigo Santoro who played Xerxes in 300 (he was tinted to appear African)

Pale Hispanic guy:



Black guy:



With today's special effects and make-up it's easy for actors to take on the appearance of different ethnicities, leaving studios to only be concerned about acting skills when casting.
VAMAN
QUOTE(zodiacgrl89 @ Jun 18 2008, 01:04 AM) *
They did not cast John because he can't speak English.

His English is very good for your info.

QUOTE(tringazmot @ Jun 18 2008, 09:18 AM) *
With today's special effects and make-up it's easy for actors to take on the appearance of different ethnicities, leaving studios to only be concerned about acting skills when casting.

This privilege is only for the white and Hispanic actors. So sorry I don't agree with you on this. In my opinion Hollywood is biased towards actors of other ethnicities. It doesn't matter how good actors they are.
jiggyiggy
Parminder Nagra from ER could of played the chick. They could of found an actor of Iranian descent, or even of Arab or Indian descent to play the main dude. Sendhil Ramamurthy comes to mind.
f3ro300
Parminder Nagra? are you serious? she is ugly lmao

Sendhil dose not look Persian he is south indian it would look odd if he plays a persian
f3ro300
Teresa Lourenco she would be hot for a princess role shes half Indian and Latina

f3ro300
Padma Laxhmi she is a mallu



tringazmot
I'm sorry, but Padma isn't very photogenic. She has a weird facial structure and she's way too old.
f3ro300
What you mean weird facial structure? what exactly is a perfect face structure ?

punjabtrini
Vaman said
QUOTE
This privilege is only for the white and Hispanic actors
but this is sometime true. Too many social constructs for "White" although the term may mean European (from Europe) whilst "Hispanic" is too broad a category but it will work sometimes. Benjamin Bratt, Talisa Soto, Tego Calderon, Zoe Saldana, Pit Bull, etc meaning which type of Hispanic is one looking for? Is it the generic mestizo (who may be darker) or the 'whiter looking one' (less African and native American ancestry)!!!
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(Tabs @ Jun 17 2008, 08:32 PM) *
They don't care to make it realistic, that's my entire point. They care to make money, and to cast the biggest name willing to sign-on.


Then why cast Brandon Routh in Superman Returns?

QUOTE(tringazmot @ Jun 18 2008, 01:48 AM) *
Rodrigo Santoro who played Xerxes in 300 (he was tinted to appear African)


Since when was Xerxes African? lol
kreetslaak
Why not? Most Iranians and some higher-caste Indians could pass for (Mediterranean) whites. Whites, Iranians, and (northern) Indians are all part Aryan.

I think some people just like complaining about every little thing. I wonder how many Bollywood movies use 'real' whites to portray Europeans in historical movies?
f3ro300
^ i dont agree with you light skinned indians or Iranians still look indian/Iranians to me



South Indian Mallu so its not just "North Indian" even if she is light she still looks Indian
kreetslaak
QUOTE(f3ro300 @ Jun 18 2008, 06:10 PM) *


Put her in Western clothes, get rid of that dot, and imagine her in some Southern European city and I think you'd have a hard time telling she wasn't Spanish or whatever.

Also, bear in mind that Iranians especially were probably whiter in ancient times. Since then they've been invaded by Arabs and have slowly mixed more and more with the darker peoples that surround them. So casting a white guy as the Prince of Persia could even be more historically correct than casting a 21-century Iranian!
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(kreetslaak @ Jun 18 2008, 01:56 PM) *
Why not? Most Iranians and some higher-caste Indians could pass for (Mediterranean) whites. Whites, Iranians, and (northern) Indians are all part Aryan.


Yes, it's very difficult to differentiate between these three women...



QUOTE(kreetslaak @ Jun 18 2008, 01:56 PM) *
I wonder how many Bollywood movies use 'real' whites to portray Europeans in historical movies?


Um, all of them lol.
punjabtrini
kreetslaak said that
QUOTE
(northern) Indians are all part Aryan.
but this is untrue.

Some Northern Indians, due to latitute/longtitude are generally fairer that the rest of the country but this is only a mean and does not reflect the norm. Fair skin does not denote 'Aryan'.
Fair skin does exists amongst South Indians but the norm of South Indians (movie/media choices) does not reflect the actual population hue gradient.

Here are some South Indian 'typical' representations! Average beautiful people!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleinelune/44015942/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mytripsmypics/2301786556/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fredcan/1225423419/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/archanasr_2000/1282980217/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/arindam_thokder/181011002/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25641154@N00/668504356/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25641154@N00/461326534/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonkinpix/532232111/

f3ro300
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ Jun 18 2008, 12:44 PM) *
Yes, it's very difficult to differentiate between these three women...


Um, all of them lol.



Claudia Lynx is not fully persian she is like 1/3? her mother is Norwegian and her father is half Iranian and half Norwegian
VAMAN
QUOTE(punjabtrini @ Jun 18 2008, 08:22 PM) *
Vaman said but this is sometime true. Too many social constructs for "White" although the term may mean European (from Europe) whilst "Hispanic" is too broad a category but it will work sometimes. Benjamin Bratt, Talisa Soto, Tego Calderon, Zoe Saldana, Pit Bull, etc meaning which type of Hispanic is one looking for? Is it the generic mestizo (who may be darker) or the 'whiter looking one' (less African and native American ancestry)!!!

You got me here. embarassedlaugh.gif I am aware that te term Hispanic spans many different ethnicities and various types of looks. But it seems that you already know what I meant. I mean Hispanics which are mestizo (darker ones too) looking and European looking get more preference. They can perform any type of roles in Hollywood movies.

QUOTE(kreetslaak @ Jun 18 2008, 09:26 PM) *
Why not? Most Iranians and some higher-caste Indians could pass for (Mediterranean) whites. Whites, Iranians, and (northern) Indians are all part Aryan.

There is no such thing as Aryan. Aryan is an English word derived from the Sanskrit word Arya. Arya simply means noble or respectable. So Iranians and Indians are not Aryans.

QUOTE(kreetslaak @ Jun 18 2008, 09:55 PM) *
Also, bear in mind that Iranians especially were probably whiter in ancient times. Since then they've been invaded by Arabs and have slowly mixed more and more with the darker peoples that surround them. So casting a white guy as the Prince of Persia could even be more historically correct than casting a 21-century Iranian!

Looks like you have no knowledge of geography, people or history. For your info. Arabs are very diverse looking people and it spans a big geographical region which spans from North Africa to Mediterranean, from Atlantic Ocean to the Arabian sea. Indians also constitute a big geographical region with different types of climates hence different type of looks. I hope you will understand this and don't assume things all by yourself.
Tabs
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ Jun 18 2008, 12:34 PM) *
Then why cast Brandon Routh in Superman Returns?

QUOTE
Prior to Routh's casting as Superman, Warner Bros. had spent over a decade developing a plan to relaunch the franchise, with possible stars including name actors Nicolas Cage (who had at one point signed on to the role)[citation needed], Josh Hartnett, Brendan Fraser, Paul Walker, James Marsden, Ashton Kutcher, and Jim Caviezel[7] and planned directors including Tim Burton, Wolfgang Petersen, McG, Brett Ratner and Shekhar Kapur. When director Bryan Singer came aboard the project, however, he insisted that an unknown actor be cast in the part, in the tradition of the casting of the best-known film Superman, Christopher Reeve.

They went for a well-known actor first (as with this case & Jake Gyllenhaal), but the director decided to take a chance on someone unknown because it'd worked the first time. 9 times out of 10 they're not going to be willing to take that chance.
yhellothar
QUOTE
They don't care to make it realistic, that's my entire point. They care to make money, and to cast the biggest name willing to sign-on.


So in other words Hollywood is a degenerate, racist $hithole that whores itself for money and has no principles, and that non-white characters, fictional or not, should be replaced by whites. Only when they're portrayed positively, though. So in that case if we have a movie about say, Gandhi, he will be played by Leonardo DiCaprio when he gets older.

lol, white people.
kreetslaak
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ Jun 18 2008, 07:44 PM) *
Yes, it's very difficult to differentiate between these three women...


I know you're being sarcastic but I'd actually say it is. The complexion of the two non-Europeans may be a bit darker but other than that, in terms of facial features and hair style there's not that much difference.

In fact, the Iranian one kind of looks like Belle Perez.
kreetslaak
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Jun 18 2008, 08:58 PM) *
There is no such thing as Aryan. Aryan is an English word derived from the Sanskrit word Arya. Arya simply means noble or respectable. So Iranians and Indians are not Aryans.


It is commonly accepted that Europeans, Iranians, Afghanis and Indians/Pakistanis partly have Aryan (also known as Indo-European) ancestors. In fact, the word Iran is even derived from Aryan.

Here is a scheme of Proto-Indo-European migrations between 4000 and 1000 B.C.:



QUOTE
Looks like you have no knowledge of geography, people or history. For your info. Arabs are very diverse looking people and it spans a big geographical region which spans from North Africa to Mediterranean, from Atlantic Ocean to the Arabian sea. Indians also constitute a big geographical region with different types of climates hence different type of looks. I hope you will understand this and don't assume things all by yourself.


Looks like you're the one without any 'knowledge of geography, people or history'. The Arab world spans a very large territory now but in the beginning of the seventh century they were limited to a small area in what is now Saudi Arabia. Later that century they conquered Persia. They are a semitic people - it is nonsensical to assume that, along with other neighboring peoples, they didn't leave their genetic footprint in Persia. Hence the logical assumption that ancient Persians were whiter than Iranians are today.

Northern India is a different case since that was already quite densely populated by darker-skinned peoples. That's why the invaders created a caste system (or more likely, altered the existing one) to be based partly on skin color, so they would be on top.
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(f3ro300 @ Jun 18 2008, 04:50 PM) *
Claudia Lynx is not fully persian she is like 1/3? her mother is Norwegian and her father is half Iranian and half Norwegian


That would make her 1/4... and she still doesn't look Euro.

QUOTE(kreetslaak @ Jun 18 2008, 05:38 PM) *
I know you're being sarcastic but I'd actually say it is. The complexion of the two non-Europeans may be a bit darker but other than, in terms of facial features and hair style there's not that much difference.

In fact, the Iranian one kind of looks like Belle Perez.


But you were able to see a difference, no? What you said about people like them being able to mix into a crowd of Spaniards is a joke. If this were true why don't most Indian immigrants get mistaken as Spanish, Greek or Italian?
f3ro300
QUOTE(yhellothar @ Jun 18 2008, 02:36 PM) *
So in other words Hollywood is a degenerate, racist $hithole that whores itself for money and has no principles, and that non-white characters, fictional or not, should be replaced by whites. Only when they're portrayed positively, though. So in that case if we have a movie about say, Gandhi, he will be played by Leonardo DiCaprio when he gets older.

lol, white people.



LOL gandhi was already played by a white person in the early 80s.. Ben Kingsley

yhellothar
lol wow laugh.gif
f3ro300
[quote name='JuicyFruit' date='Jun 18 2008, 02:56 PM' post='3761468']
That would make her 1/4... and she still doesn't look Euro.


Yeah but she is still pretty maybe she gets a tan or somthing o_O
kreetslaak
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ Jun 18 2008, 09:56 PM) *
That would make her 1/4... and she still doesn't look Euro.
But you were able to see a difference, no? What you said about people like them being able to mix into a crowd of Spaniards is a joke. If this were true why don't most Indian immigrants get mistaken as Spanish, Greek or Italian?


I never said 'most' Indians look like Southern Europeans. I said light-skinned Indians share a lot of similarities with Europeans and are genetically (obviously) closest to them.
punjabtrini
But Ben Kingsley is Anglo Indian and looks nothing like Kabir Bedi!
Kingsley is part European obviously.

If one looks at the root or origin of the word 'arya', it has its roots in Sanskrit, which is a non-European language. It is Asian.
f3ro300
^ wow i never knew he was anglo indian
Tabs
QUOTE(yhellothar @ Jun 18 2008, 04:36 PM) *
So in other words Hollywood is a degenerate, racist $hithole that whores itself for money and has no principles,

You mean like any other business? Yes, of course. Big business could care less who they're screwing over as long as they're making a profit.

QUOTE(yhellothar @ Jun 18 2008, 04:36 PM) *
and that non-white characters, fictional or not, should be replaced by whites. Only when they're portrayed positively, though. So in that case if we have a movie about say, Gandhi, he will be played by Leonardo DiCaprio when he gets older.

I feel like you've never watched a Bollywood or East Asian movie. Because I watch as much European & Asian cinema as I do Hollywood cinema (actually MUCH more, Hollywood makes 95% trash movies, I'm more into indie stuff that isn't chock full of lame special effects) and if you had watched much you'd realize that white & black actors in Bollywood & other Asian films (like Hong Kong & Japanese cinema) are MUCH less common than Asian actors in Hollywood movies. At least Asians in Hollywood films get to play the sidekick roll. In the majority of Bollywood & other Asian cinema white people don't even exist. Why do you feel that Hollywood has some sort of moral obligation to go out of their way to cast non-white & black actors, when Asian cinema doesn't go out of their way to cast white & black actors? :P

Bollywood also does a LOT of remakes of Hollywood movies. If they wanted to cast white & black actors they absolutely could. They just don't care to go out of their way if they don't have to, they'd rather edit into a film that they feel Indian folks can relate to, and cast big Indian stars in the roles so that they can sell tickets in India. I don't see Hollywood as being any different.
kreetslaak
QUOTE(punjabtrini @ Jun 18 2008, 10:29 PM) *
If one looks at the root or origin of the word 'arya', it has its roots in Sanskrit, which is a non-European language. It is Asian.


Sanskrit is not 'Asian' (whatever that is) but a member of the Indo-Iranian sub-family of the Indo-European family of languages. It does however have quite a few loanwords from ancient Dravidian, if I remember correctly.

Here is the map for currently existing Indo-Aryan languages (many derived from Sanskrit);

kreetslaak
QUOTE(Tabs @ Jun 18 2008, 10:55 PM) *
In the majority of Bollywood & other Asian cinema white people don't even exist. Why do you feel that Hollywood has some sort of moral obligation to go out of their way to cast non-white & black actors, when Asian cinema doesn't go out of their way to cast white & black actors? :P

Bollywood also does a LOT of remakes of Hollywood movies. If they wanted to cast white & black actors they absolutely could. They just don't care to go out of their way if they don't have to, they'd rather edit into a film that they feel Indian folks can relate to, and cast big Indian stars in the roles so that they can sell tickets in India. I don't see Hollywood as being any different.


Thank you, Tabs, for pointing out the incredibly hypocrisy present here. I get so sick of all the whining. If Hollywood producers made movies with only Chinese or Indians or whatever, people on AF would still find some way to complain about it.

Who cares who they put in their movies anyway? It's Hollywood! Only people with no taste consume (that's the best word for it) Hollywood movies
Mona


she got two different size eyes?
higginm
QUOTE(punjabtrini @ Jun 18 2008, 09:29 PM) *
But Ben Kingsley is Anglo Indian

Ben Kingsley is the bomb! He is one of the best actors I have ever known.

I loved him in Schindlers List and in Anne Frank (pitty the other actors were so lame).

Wish I had seen him in more films! beerchug.gif

Mona
I don't see what people are complaining about caz bollywood is doing the same thing.

There are celebrities such as yana gupta or whatever her name is
portraying to be an Indian woman(modeling/acting/dancing for bollywood). But of course nobody has a problem with that.
That's quite fine but whine about Hollywood lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpigJCY-HKM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldGjEMylhR0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTRIa8-Ftkw

She is not even Indian. She is a white Czech woman.



She clearly does not look indian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnuH9zgMXQ...feature=related
f3ro300
QUOTE(higginm @ Jun 18 2008, 04:39 PM) *
Ben Kingsley is the bomb! He is one of the best actors I have ever known.

I loved him in Schindlers List and in Anne Frank (pitty the other actors were so lame).

Wish I had seen him in more films! beerchug.gif


He is in the movie Prince of Persia he is playing the bad guy
f3ro300
i taught Yana was Indian when i saw her first item number Babu Jee Song she looked pretty indian dark hair a everything the only reasion she made it in bollywood. if it was some blond girl she would have never be popular as yana

& she is NOT a actor
higginm
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