Full Version: are there any philippine movies based on epics
like the Maranao's Daranagan epic from which the singkil is derieve or whatever? etc etcv
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 29 2004, 05:01 PM)
like the Maranao's Daranagan epic from which the singkil is derieve or whatever? etc etcv
I don't know most filipino movies are comedy,action, and romance movies in the present time. I don't think we have any epics though.
this movie shold be coming out next year
http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/DEF...ldiers/main.php
http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/DEF...ldiers/main.php
hmm, im talking more about pre-colonial stufs like the igorot hudhud or the moro Daranagan.
QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Aug 29 2004, 05:05 PM)
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 29 2004, 05:01 PM)
like the Maranao's Daranagan epic from which the singkil is derieve or whatever? etc etcv
I don't know most filipino movies are comedy,action, and romance movies in the present time. I don't think we have any epics though.
Yes we have epics! but we don't have movies based on our epics yet... what i know is the infamous Ibong Adarna story (not an epic) which has been turned into film quite a lot.
Our epics include, Hinilawod, Biag Ni Lam-Ang, Handiong, Indirapatra at Sulayman among others... And they are stuff that movies are made from... it's just that nobody dares... or nobody has discovered the epics' potentials... i don't know...
I know of several, like RIZAL as based on the epic of our National Hero Jose Rizal. Also one movie produced by Armuida Segion-REyna starring Richard Gomez and Dawn Zulueta, which was based on the book, "Wuthering Heights" by Emily Bronte, someone help me recall its title though, it was even shot in Pagudpud in Ilocos Norte, let's see what pa ba?. . .well does those Nora / Vilma movies count? the ones based on Liwayway Comics? my Lola used to read Liwayway a lot, so i don't know if this counts. . . :coffee:
oh, i thought the epics we are refering to are those in the leagues of ethnical/or more like ancient ones... but Rizal may count i think... But the Gomez-Zulueta movie, i don't think it counted, not a Filipino epic, you know, if it is based from wuthering hts... and no those from liwayway comics wouldn't coutn too... 
im takling about "ancietn epics" not colonial day stories... haha well i hope philippines start making movies about our pre-colonial heritage or whatever 
*waiting*
*waiting*
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 30 2004, 08:22 AM)
im takling about "ancietn epics" not colonial day stories... haha well i hope philippines start making movies about our pre-colonial heritage or whatever
*waiting*
*waiting*
The Lapu-Lapu movie is pre-colonial.
link me to a review or where i can purchse da lapu lapu movie then.
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 30 2004, 08:39 AM)
link me to a review or where i can purchse da lapu lapu movie then.
Here ia sn site that has an summary of the movie
Lapu-Lapu
i do too.
that would be interesting to watch filipino epics.
filipino movies that deal with action and romance all have recycled plots anyways, so they should find other ways to entice the viewers.
that would be interesting to watch filipino epics.
filipino movies that deal with action and romance all have recycled plots anyways, so they should find other ways to entice the viewers.
QUOTE (--Kaged-- @ Aug 31 2004, 11:32 AM)
i do too.
that would be interesting to watch filipino epics.
filipino movies that deal with action and romance all have recycled plots anyways, so they should find other ways to entice the viewers.
that would be interesting to watch filipino epics.
filipino movies that deal with action and romance all have recycled plots anyways, so they should find other ways to entice the viewers.
Maybe they should invite some foreign stars to be a apart of the movie. I could come up with some good plots for an movie. Hey somebody give me the number of Star Cinema, Regal,or Viva .
i want to learn more about these:
Hudhud & Alim, Malakas at Maganda, Darangan, & the battle of Mactan, & philippine-american war.
i think that pretty much spans all the whole history of the philippines.. well i wonder if the negritos have a story too, i just dont know the name of one.
Hudhud & Alim, Malakas at Maganda, Darangan, & the battle of Mactan, & philippine-american war.
i think that pretty much spans all the whole history of the philippines.. well i wonder if the negritos have a story too, i just dont know the name of one.
they should make one about Rajah MAngandiri. The maranao version of the ramayana. Ganda Yan tsaka mahaba...Striking costumes
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 31 2004, 03:58 PM)
i want to learn more about these:
Hudhud & Alim, Malakas at Maganda, Darangan, & the battle of Mactan, & philippine-american war.
i think that pretty much spans all the whole history of the philippines.. well i wonder if the negritos have a story too, i just dont know the name of one.
Hudhud & Alim, Malakas at Maganda, Darangan, & the battle of Mactan, & philippine-american war.
i think that pretty much spans all the whole history of the philippines.. well i wonder if the negritos have a story too, i just dont know the name of one.
They already have the battle of mactan in the Lapu-Lapu movie. And we can't make an movie about the philippine-american war or the US might put us in its sh!t list(oh well who cares make one anyway).
I saw Hudhud (Hinilawod) performed by a cultural group and it is pretty good also. 
QUOTE (maogmang_aki @ Aug 31 2004, 07:11 PM)
I saw Hudhud (Hinilawod) performed by a cultural group and it is pretty good also.
Hey maogmang_aki what are those people doing in your sig. Looks like their relieving themselves on the water.
Hahaha that was the idea... i choreographed that! 
QUOTE (maogmang_aki @ Aug 31 2004, 07:20 PM)
Hahaha that was the idea... i choreographed that!
WHich one is you?
i was the girl behind the camera! buhuhuhu 
QUOTE (maogmang_aki @ Aug 31 2004, 07:23 PM)
i was the girl behind the camera! buhuhuhu
Oh thats so sad, maybe nextime huh.
but i got me a pix in the Pictures of the Philippines that makes you say wow thread... our trek to Mt. Pulag... you can use that to scare away mice and rats and other vermins in your place... but then i'll charge you for that! hihihihi
The Ibalong Epic is also good material for movie... what with all the monsters that Handiong has to fight to settle our region! :genius:
The Ibalong Epic is also good material for movie... what with all the monsters that Handiong has to fight to settle our region! :genius:
QUOTE (maogmang_aki @ Aug 31 2004, 07:27 PM)
but i got me a pix in the Pictures of the Philippines that makes you say wow thread... our trek to Mt. Pulag... you can use that to scare away mice and rats and other vermins in your place... but then i'll charge you for that! hihihihi
The Ibalong Epic is also good material for movie... what with all the monsters that Handiong has to fight to settle our region! :genius:
The Ibalong Epic is also good material for movie... what with all the monsters that Handiong has to fight to settle our region! :genius:
AN pix of an mountain to scare away vermin? Am I hearing this right.
ngex... i was saying just see the thread coz i have a pix there during our trek to Pulag... 
how long was the hudhud performance, i heard it is very long to recite it. i am going to purchase the 1967 translation of the hudhud by francis lambercht. have u ever read it? and do u know where i can get a copy of it.
Where is the Ibalong Epic from?
Where is the Ibalong Epic from?
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 31 2004, 07:48 PM)
how long was the hudhud performance, i heard it is very long to recite it. i am going to purchase the 1967 translation of the hudhud by francis lambercht. have u ever read it? and do u know where i can get a copy of it.
Where is the Ibalong Epic from?
Where is the Ibalong Epic from?
Well, as far as i can remember, it was about 2 hours long... Ibalong is from the Bicol Region. the protagonist is Handiong.
Lapu-lapu is not an epic but more of a historical account!
has that bikolano epic been transcribed or is it an oral record handed down from person to person?
During the peak of my interest to Philippine Literature, i found just fragments of the epic and a few summaries. I haven't read a full length one.
QUOTE (maogmang_aki @ Aug 31 2004, 07:50 PM)
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Aug 31 2004, 07:48 PM)
how long was the hudhud performance, i heard it is very long to recite it. i am going to purchase the 1967 translation of the hudhud by francis lambercht. have u ever read it? and do u know where i can get a copy of it.
Where is the Ibalong Epic from?
Where is the Ibalong Epic from?
Well, as far as i can remember, it was about 2 hours long... Ibalong is from the Bicol Region. the protagonist is Handiong.
hudhud? i thought the ifugaos recited it for days, kinda like the lapp peoples saga like poems, which like the latter are one of the worlds vanishing, endangered specie like state, cultural practices.
obviously according to her, some ppl have re-inact the hudhud med!ckol
it is a epic story one of the protagonist is known as Aliguyun
it is a epic story one of the protagonist is known as Aliguyun
why you hating on me? what's the basis, the last time they ganged up on you you all like okay peace peace, what the? now you starting this thing with me again? man i'm not even talking to you @$$ no more, but if you want to start you know what it's cool. you really need to go out and socialize and learn to socialize man
cool lang mga kuya!
stop arguing pls....
stop arguing pls....
oo nga naman... muli nating pairalin ang katahimikan sa atin. Hoy Anjing!!!! musta!!!
in English:
Yeah, let's keep the peace here.
Well, it was a cultural group which performed the 2-hour Hudhud in our school. and it was shortened coz, you couldn't hold the attention of the audience for more than 3 hours at most, right? besides, it was just a good way of introducing us to the various ethnical cultures of the Philippines... :genius:
in English:
Yeah, let's keep the peace here.
Well, it was a cultural group which performed the 2-hour Hudhud in our school. and it was shortened coz, you couldn't hold the attention of the audience for more than 3 hours at most, right? besides, it was just a good way of introducing us to the various ethnical cultures of the Philippines... :genius:
hey aki!
i'm fine...
buti pa sa inyo, may nag-act ng hudhud..
in our school, mostly works of dr. rizal were played....
i'm fine...
buti pa sa inyo, may nag-act ng hudhud..
in our school, mostly works of dr. rizal were played....
sorry folks you know i don't start stuff it just comes.
hey anjing how you doing i talked to kim yesterday
hudhud acted out now, oh the story in the hudhud. man the last time i heard only florante at laura and other kundiman was acted out.
hey anjing how you doing i talked to kim yesterday
hudhud acted out now, oh the story in the hudhud. man the last time i heard only florante at laura and other kundiman was acted out.
QUOTE (flipcombatmedic @ Sep 3 2004, 06:51 PM)
sorry folks you know i don't start stuff it just comes.
hey anjing how you doing i talked to kim yesterday
hudhud acted out now, oh the story in the hudhud. man the last time i heard only florante at laura and other kundiman was acted out.
hey anjing how you doing i talked to kim yesterday
hudhud acted out now, oh the story in the hudhud. man the last time i heard only florante at laura and other kundiman was acted out.
Alam namin yon Flip!!!
well, yong principal kasi dati sa school namin, pinsan yong director ng CCP kaya nagperform sa amin yong Ballet Philippines, Kalipayan Dancers, Madrigal Singers at saka yong Hudhud! galing!
man they must have a good program then
QUOTE
Musical Loincloths
The difference between actors and my colorful self is simple: I am mortified with the mere thought of prancing around in something closely resembling underwear while they choose to revel in it.
I was invited to watch Hudhud: An Ifugao Romance last night by one of the actors, Richard Signey because I interviewed him. I managed to force Thea to come along with me because she is the only person I could think of that would be giddy with the idea of trekking all the way to Roxas boulevard just to see something 'cultural.' (Gah. UPM people, remember the time when CCP was just there? Now, it's there. It's nutty, it's basically the same distance.)
Hudhud is actually an Ifugao tradition revolving around storytelling. It opens to a bunch of Ifugao people urging their tribe elder, Apu Baket (played by the wonderful Nonie Buencamino) to tell them the story about Bugan of old. Apu Baket makes pakipot, telling that she has forgotten, that she might not have the strength to finish the long story and that she might lose her way in the journey. But for every thing she says, the tribes people have an answer (via a very high-pitched chant --- the kind a younger sibling would use to scream "nyahahaha" at you).
Bugan of old was forced by her brother to search for her would-be-groom in a nearby town because no one in her own town is suitable enough. She takes a servant girl with her and a golden belt --- if any man fits into said belt, he would be suitable enough. When she reaches the next tribe she meets a man (I have forgotten his name. Let's just call him 'bad guy' for the purpose of this entry) who fits into the belt and who promptly rapes her. He then tells her that he already has a son and is about to married (-gasp-). Bad guy's wife with the women of the town and lashes out at the woman. Bugan then flees with her servant girl, who just woke up, and reaches a crossroads. Bugan chooses to not to go on her own journey but sends her servant girl back to her own tribe.
On her tired journey, Bugan goes into various states of delirousness and rants about the shallowness of honor in conscious intervals. She is angered that 'honor' is defined only by a few men, that her dignity is gone because a few guys say so.
She comes upon a small hut with a pot of rice cooking over a small fire. She smells the sugar cane and is reminded that she hasn't eaten for days. She bumps into another man, the owner of the hut, (let's call him 'good guy' for this entry) and is initially repulsed by him (because of what had happened to him. After a few days, she learns to love good guy (because he is... a good guy). She makes good guy promise to be with her despite not knowing her past.
In another scene, bad guy's would-be wife is arguing with her brother. She refuses to marry bad guy now because she feels he doesn't love her anymore (because of the boinking incident with Bugan). Her brother screams at her --- the 'honor' of the family will be lost if he doesn't marry bad guy. Bad guy's would-be wife scathingly says that her honor is still intact and that the only honor he was trying to protect was his own. For someone so small (most of the cast are teeny-tiny), that woman can really intimidate you. She is practically dripping with dury with her brother and his so-called 'honor.'
Things turn really bad. Bugan's brother forces the truth out of the servant girl. A man from the nearby tribe has forced himself on Bugan. Angered by the loss of 'honor,' Bugan's brother takes a group of men to wage war on the village.
Meanwhile, good guy gets a visit from his brother --- bag guy! (-gasp-) When good guy introduces bad guy to Bugan, they are all shocked. Bugan tells good guy that he (bad guy) was the reason for her nightmares. Bad guy tells good guy that she forced herself on him and that she no longer has honor. Good guy feels betrayed and decided to break her promise to Bugan. The servant girl appears from nowhere and tells them of the news of the impending war. They all rush to the village.
A big fight scene ensues. Spears are slapped against swords. Bodies are thrown to other bodies. Despite the raging emotions running around, there is remains a sense of musicality to it. Yet, without the 'corny' factor. Bugan joins in the fight and proceeds to defeat her enemies. At the climax, she is poised to slit good guy's throat and is urge by bad guy saying that she has already taken their tribes honor away from them, that she should kill them all. Bugan drops the sword and screams at everyone. She expresses her anger over this stupid honor thing. She declares that she still has dignity and impresses to everyone that she will not let a few men's mind run her life. She leaves them all and lives happy and dignified in the mountains... without any Prince Charming.
It's like a funky Womyn-inspired soap opera with a lot of dancing.
You should watch it.
The difference between actors and my colorful self is simple: I am mortified with the mere thought of prancing around in something closely resembling underwear while they choose to revel in it.
I was invited to watch Hudhud: An Ifugao Romance last night by one of the actors, Richard Signey because I interviewed him. I managed to force Thea to come along with me because she is the only person I could think of that would be giddy with the idea of trekking all the way to Roxas boulevard just to see something 'cultural.' (Gah. UPM people, remember the time when CCP was just there? Now, it's there. It's nutty, it's basically the same distance.)
Hudhud is actually an Ifugao tradition revolving around storytelling. It opens to a bunch of Ifugao people urging their tribe elder, Apu Baket (played by the wonderful Nonie Buencamino) to tell them the story about Bugan of old. Apu Baket makes pakipot, telling that she has forgotten, that she might not have the strength to finish the long story and that she might lose her way in the journey. But for every thing she says, the tribes people have an answer (via a very high-pitched chant --- the kind a younger sibling would use to scream "nyahahaha" at you).
Bugan of old was forced by her brother to search for her would-be-groom in a nearby town because no one in her own town is suitable enough. She takes a servant girl with her and a golden belt --- if any man fits into said belt, he would be suitable enough. When she reaches the next tribe she meets a man (I have forgotten his name. Let's just call him 'bad guy' for the purpose of this entry) who fits into the belt and who promptly rapes her. He then tells her that he already has a son and is about to married (-gasp-). Bad guy's wife with the women of the town and lashes out at the woman. Bugan then flees with her servant girl, who just woke up, and reaches a crossroads. Bugan chooses to not to go on her own journey but sends her servant girl back to her own tribe.
On her tired journey, Bugan goes into various states of delirousness and rants about the shallowness of honor in conscious intervals. She is angered that 'honor' is defined only by a few men, that her dignity is gone because a few guys say so.
She comes upon a small hut with a pot of rice cooking over a small fire. She smells the sugar cane and is reminded that she hasn't eaten for days. She bumps into another man, the owner of the hut, (let's call him 'good guy' for this entry) and is initially repulsed by him (because of what had happened to him. After a few days, she learns to love good guy (because he is... a good guy). She makes good guy promise to be with her despite not knowing her past.
In another scene, bad guy's would-be wife is arguing with her brother. She refuses to marry bad guy now because she feels he doesn't love her anymore (because of the boinking incident with Bugan). Her brother screams at her --- the 'honor' of the family will be lost if he doesn't marry bad guy. Bad guy's would-be wife scathingly says that her honor is still intact and that the only honor he was trying to protect was his own. For someone so small (most of the cast are teeny-tiny), that woman can really intimidate you. She is practically dripping with dury with her brother and his so-called 'honor.'
Things turn really bad. Bugan's brother forces the truth out of the servant girl. A man from the nearby tribe has forced himself on Bugan. Angered by the loss of 'honor,' Bugan's brother takes a group of men to wage war on the village.
Meanwhile, good guy gets a visit from his brother --- bag guy! (-gasp-) When good guy introduces bad guy to Bugan, they are all shocked. Bugan tells good guy that he (bad guy) was the reason for her nightmares. Bad guy tells good guy that she forced herself on him and that she no longer has honor. Good guy feels betrayed and decided to break her promise to Bugan. The servant girl appears from nowhere and tells them of the news of the impending war. They all rush to the village.
A big fight scene ensues. Spears are slapped against swords. Bodies are thrown to other bodies. Despite the raging emotions running around, there is remains a sense of musicality to it. Yet, without the 'corny' factor. Bugan joins in the fight and proceeds to defeat her enemies. At the climax, she is poised to slit good guy's throat and is urge by bad guy saying that she has already taken their tribes honor away from them, that she should kill them all. Bugan drops the sword and screams at everyone. She expresses her anger over this stupid honor thing. She declares that she still has dignity and impresses to everyone that she will not let a few men's mind run her life. She leaves them all and lives happy and dignified in the mountains... without any Prince Charming.
It's like a funky Womyn-inspired soap opera with a lot of dancing.
You should watch it.
di ba pwede si Pedro Penduko?
Pedro Penduko is not an epic
naw..but modern epic. same with panday.
Panday ?
you don't know panday? man really? where yo been all this time ek? panday/fpj is like the childhood heroes of many new gen filipinos.
I know the Panday film.
What I mean is Panday an epic?
I do not think so. Part myth part epic.
What I mean is Panday an epic?
I do not think so. Part myth part epic.
Hindi nga epiko ang panday... kwento lang ito, gaya ng Darna at Dyesebel... Hindi rin epiko si Pedro Penduko...
Now, who have heard of the Bidasari? Maranaw Epic yata ito..
Hindi rin epiko si Pedro Penduko...Now, who have heard of the Bidasari? Maranaw Epic yata ito..
I was thinking of that!
QUOTE (maogmang_aki @ Sep 5 2004, 07:08 PM)
Hindi nga epiko ang panday... kwento lang ito, gaya ng Darna at Dyesebel... Hindi rin epiko si Pedro Penduko...
Now, who have heard of the Bidasari? Maranaw Epic yata ito..
Hindi rin epiko si Pedro Penduko...Now, who have heard of the Bidasari? Maranaw Epic yata ito..
heard but not thoroughly read up. the only hudhud i know is the one about the ifugao warrior who fought for several years and made a friend out of his enemy. i learned it back in philippines before i left.
Lam-ang epic or Code of Kalantiaw
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