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AnAttA
I think the movement of PAD is justified but doing something like this to people who disagree with you is just unthai.

http://manager.co.th/Entertainment/ViewNew...D=9510000079175

now it is not thaksin that dividing the country , it is PAD.

AEROFORCE1
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Jul 7 2008, 06:44 AM) [snapback]3795417[/snapback]
I think the movement of PAD is justified but doing something like this to people who disagree with you is just unthai.

http://manager.co.th/Entertainment/ViewNew...D=9510000079175

now it is not thaksin that dividing the country , it is PAD.

Its way too much ,funny on the attitude of PAD is not different from Thaksin that they got support from people then they can do what ever they wish. Thailand endless saga. And whatever who do the crime they can hide within the crowded of their group.

AnAttA
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ Jul 7 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]3795809[/snapback]
Its way too much ,funny on the attitude of PAD is not different from Thaksin that they got support from people then they can do what ever they wish. Thailand endless saga. And whatever who do the crime they can hide within the crowded of their group.


exactly. it is like two ugly monsters fighting to gain the control of the future of thailand. whoever we are going to end up with, we are fu-ked.

AEROFORCE1
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Jul 7 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]3795885[/snapback]
exactly. it is like two ugly monsters fighting to gain the control of the future of thailand. whoever we are going to end up with, we are fu-ked.

I think we already fu-ked since Thaksin in power it start to go wrong ,Similar to philipine in 70th was peak with Marcos as president ,then a different of Corupt goverment keep on rulling country 30 years lather. The country is what we see now ,and many middle class start to left the country.

Some time I think its hard to stop them ,when all are bad.
yokie
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Jul 7 2008, 06:44 AM) [snapback]3795417[/snapback]
I think the movement of PAD is justified but doing something like this to people who disagree with you is just unthai.

http://manager.co.th/Entertainment/ViewNew...D=9510000079175

now it is not thaksin that dividing the country , it is PAD.


sorry for breaking up the conversation between you two, but at least all PAD did was being rude. They haven't done anything that can be considered administrative corruption. If they have committed the crime, let them run, but they can not hide. Look at refigerator yut, could he hide behind his big boss? No, he got a red card for what he did.

As for the big actor sornlam, I think he deserves it anyway. People should be responsible for their action. If he is so willing to say negative thing about PAD without any conceivable reasons, he should be willing to accept bad response from the PAD in return. It's simple as that. What he did is a matter of choices anyway. This guy takes side instead of telling us about his idea of how to solve the current economic situation. All this guy said was "don't you love the king? What are you protesting for?" Did he tell us about his opinion regarding Khao phra vi han? Did he tell us about what he thinks about how this government run the country?

When it comes to politic, people should take side base on idea and goal not self-interest. Needless to say, what this guy did was for himself. thumbsdown.gif

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AnAttA
well, i never said that what sornram did was right. i just cant accept the way PAD treat ppl who expressing their opinion.
yokie
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Jul 9 2008, 06:16 AM) [snapback]3799408[/snapback]
well, i never said that what sornram did was right. i just cant accept the way PAD treat ppl who expressing their opinion.

do you think deejai or buddhalove's opinion is something that can be accepted and don't deserve any boo? do you think if they go out and proclaim laos sorvereign over thai soil in front a whole lot of people, they would only get a smile from thai people?

if you can't stand people booing you just because you express your feeling about something and they don't like it, is it possible that maybe you are a bit over sensitive instead of them being very rude?
AEROFORCE1
I consider this act as harming civilian. More the PAD do like this they would get lessen support from people who don't take side.

I taking side on support PAD act against goverment coruption case ,but it doesnt mean that I would support all every things PAD do.If we go on the way of blindly support a group without caring on their act is appropriate or not. We are not different than those Thaksin supporter นปก ,

For Sornram he is too confident to say such things cuz he think he got support from his fan too.


I am worry that We head to the way that dont care about law or right or wrong ,only think that as long as you got support from a group of people you can do what ever you can สังคมแบบพวกมากลากไป And this woud end with the fight between people until they has lost enough can figure out the lost is from their stupid act.
yokie
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ Jul 9 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]3799728[/snapback]
I consider this act as harming civilian. More the PAD do like this they would get lessen support from people who don't take side.

I taking side on support PAD act against goverment coruption case ,but it doesnt mean that I would support all every things PAD do.If we go on the way of blindly support a group without caring on their act is appropriate or not. We are not different than those Thaksin supporter นปก ,

For Sornram he is too confident to say such things cuz he think he got support from his fan too.
I am worry that We head to the way that dont care about law or right or wrong ,only think that as long as you got support from a group of people you can do what ever you can สังคมแบบพวกมากลากไป And this woud end with the fight between people until they has lost enough can figure out the lost is from their stupid act.


ผมว่าคุณยังไม่เข้าใจผมนะ ที่ผมพยายามจะพูดคืออย่าเลือกข้าง ให้เลือกอุดมการณ์ เลือกแนวคิด ผมไม่ได้เลือกข้างพันธมิตร แต่พันธมิตรกับผมมีแนวคิดเดียวกัน ส่วนที่คุณกังวลเรื่องสังคมแบบพวกมากลากไป สังคมไทยเป็นแบบนี้มานานแล้ว คนไทยเลือก สส แบบคนอื่นเลือกเยอะผมเลยเลือกด้วยเนื่องจากกลัวเลือกผิด แต่การเลือก สส ไม่มีถูกผิดเนื่องจากอุดมการณ์การดำเนินประเทศย่อมแตกต่างกัน เราเลือก สส ที่มีแนวคิดที่เราอยากจะให้ประเทศเป็น

ศรรามเลือกข้างที่เขาคิดว่าจะให้ปผลประโยชน์กับตัวเองได้มากกว่า เขาไม่ได้มีแนวคิดหรือพยายามแสดงอุดมการณ์ให้ใครรู้ การถูกโห่เป็นเรื่องที่สมควร
AEROFORCE1
QUOTE(yokie @ Jul 9 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]3799861[/snapback]
ผมว่าคุณยังไม่เข้าใจผมนะ ที่ผมพยายามจะพูดคืออย่าเลือกข้าง ให้เลือกอุดมการณ์ เลือกแนวคิด ผมไม่ได้เลือกข้างพันธมิตร แต่พันธมิตรกับผมมีแนวคิดเดียวกัน ส่วนที่คุณกังวลเรื่องสังคมแบบพวกมากลากไป สังคมไทยเป็นแบบนี้มานานแล้ว คนไทยเลือก สส แบบคนอื่นเลือกเยอะผมเลยเลือกด้วยเนื่องจากกลัวเลือกผิด แต่การเลือก สส ไม่มีถูกผิดเนื่องจากอุดมการณ์การดำเนินประเทศย่อมแตกต่างกัน เราเลือก สส ที่มีแนวคิดที่เราอยากจะให้ประเทศเป็น

ศรรามเลือกข้างที่เขาคิดว่าจะให้ปผลประโยชน์กับตัวเองได้มากกว่า เขาไม่ได้มีแนวคิดหรือพยายามแสดงอุดมการณ์ให้ใครรู้ การถูกโห่เป็นเรื่องที่สมควร

เรื่องอุดมการณ์น่ะถูกครับผมมองว่าคุณศรรามไม่เป็นลูกผู้ชายกล้าที่จะพูดโจมตีพันธมิตรลับหลังเพราะเขาไม่คิดว่าจะโดนทำกลับ แตมันเริ่มจากการที่่่นักข่าวเอาไมค์ไปจ่อปากศรรามแล้ว เขาตอบมาไม่เข้าหูวันต่อมาโดนโห่ไล่น่ะมันเกินไป แล้วดูใน VDO ก็รู้ๆกันนักข่าวกับ ม็อบรู้จังหวะกันเหมือนจัดฉาก ที่ผมไม่อยากให้พันธมิตรทำแบบนี้เพราะ คนที่ไม่รู้อะไรมาดู VDO นี้เขาจะมองว่าพันธมิตรรังแกศรราม

สังเกตดูสิครับ นิสัยคนไทยน่ะทนไม่ได้กับปัญหา ไม่ชอบความขัดแย้งหลายครั้งที่ความขัดแย้งต้องจบลงเพราะ ไม่อยากให้ทะเลาะกันเหมือนเด็กโดนรังแกแล้วผู้ใหญ่มาห้ามโดยที่ไอ้เด็กที่แกล้งเพื่อนไม่โดนลงโทษ เรื่องนี้ก้อเหมือนกันชาวบ้านเขาก็จะมองตื้นๆว่าทะเลาะกันและอยากให้มันจบ คนไทยส่วนมากน่ะต้องค่อยๆ พูดให้ฟังนานๆ ถึงจะเข้าใจ
AnAttA
หึๆๆๆ ผมโดนด่าเละเลยตอนเข้าไปโพสต์ในฟอรั่มของเสรีไทย

ผมเพียงแต่ไม่เคยเห็นคนไทยโห่ไล่คนที่ไม่ใช่นักการเมืองมาก่อน

ตอนที่คุณชวน คุณอภิสิทธิ์ โดนไล่ที่มชปีก่อนโน้น ผมยังตกใจ และโกรธ

ชาวใต้โกรธมาก เพราะรักคุณชวนมาก ยอมไม่ได้ที่คุณชวนโดนอย่างนั้น

มีการปิดถนนที่ชุมพร ไม่ยอมให้มีรถลงไปภาคใต้

มีการทุบกระจกรถป้ายทะเบียนอีสานโดยชาวใต้ที่โกรธแค้น

แม้แต่ตอนนี้ ตามร้านน้ำชา ก็มาการด่า ข่มขู่แรงงานอีสาน ให้ได้ยินประจำ

พอได้ข่าวว่าไอ้เหลิมถูกไล่ ผมสะใจ เหมือนได้แก้แค้น

แต่กรณีศรรามนี่ผมว่า มันเกินไปเพราะเขาไม่ได้เป็นนักการเมือง ถึงเขาจะพูดจางี่เง่า ก็ไม่ถึงขนาดจะต้องโห่ไล่ ใช่ไหมครับ
yokie
QUOTE(AnAttA @ Jul 9 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]3800088[/snapback]
หึๆๆๆ ผมโดนด่าเละเลยตอนเข้าไปโพสต์ในฟอรั่มของเสรีไทย

ผมเพียงแต่ไม่เคยเห็นคนไทยโห่ไล่คนที่ไม่ใช่นักการเมืองมาก่อน

ตอนที่คุณชวน คุณอภิสิทธิ์ โดนไล่ที่มชปีก่อนโน้น ผมยังตกใจ และโกรธ

ชาวใต้โกรธมาก เพราะรักคุณชวนมาก ยอมไม่ได้ที่คุณชวนโดนอย่างนั้น

มีการปิดถนนที่ชุมพร ไม่ยอมให้มีรถลงไปภาคใต้

มีการทุบกระจกรถป้ายทะเบียนอีสานโดยชาวใต้ที่โกรธแค้น

แม้แต่ตอนนี้ ตามร้านน้ำชา ก็มาการด่า ข่มขู่แรงงานอีสาน ให้ได้ยินประจำ

พอได้ข่าวว่าไอ้เหลิมถูกไล่ ผมสะใจ เหมือนได้แก้แค้น

แต่กรณีศรรามนี่ผมว่า มันเกินไปเพราะเขาไม่ได้เป็นนักการเมือง ถึงเขาจะพูดจางี่เง่า ก็ไม่ถึงขนาดจะต้องโห่ไล่ ใช่ไหมครับ


I agree you are right, PAD shouldn't boo this guy. But if I go out and boo him for my own sake, for me, and not for PAD, would it be ok for you two? idea.gif
Thaisp.unit
ok why do so many people have to be so critical of the PAD, it is becuase of this reason that make people so ignorant and arrogant. How about I put it in terms that is easier to understand. Say US has a massive corrupt government. What is the probability that US citizens will not protest? 0% So when the US citizens get the president impeached then another president is elected and he also is corrupt and corrupts the government. And all the following presidents will be corrupt. What do the people have to do to? They have to get their voices heard and need new political parties and leaders. I agree that the PAD has done some extreme actions but they only want their justice of the government that is not corrupt.

Dont be saying that I dont know anything about the government because I am educated in politics.

The example above is extremely basic. There is much more that no one knows about and Lets keep it that way. In my opinnion, The benefits and risks of the PAD outweight the consequences.
Manleow
O my Freaking JEsus, Please, Please, Please dont compare Thailand to the US. thumbsdown.gif

The US Government would not let our ppl go as far as shutting down the biggest airport let alone the smallest Airport in our country.

We are civilized ppl, not stupid monkey's who cry like baby's because they cant win an election.

If it was the USA, the Police or National Guard would have all those PAD sitting in jail within 24 hours of yellow monkey arses setting foot in the parking lot.

If there is a currupt official in the US Goverment, He or SHe would be voted out of office, Its as simple as that. Ted Steven, the Longest serving Republican Senator was Voted OUT of office this past election for letting a friend of his who owns a contruction company remodel his house.

a Black Mayor of Washington DC got caught on video selling Crack Cocaine to undercover police, He reran for office and the majority of the dominate black populaton of Wsh. DC voted him back to office. Yeah, the ppl must be retarded to vote a crack dealer back to office, but the voice of the ppl have been spoken, and must be respected. You dont see white ppl going to shut down the airport at our national capital because the Currupt Mayor was voted back to office. lolzzz

the main point of this is? Democracy, Yeah, It seems u ppl never heard of it. embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

Another point, NO MATTER how currupt the Government of the US is, if the ppl want a currupt Goverment, then its their Will to have a currupt Government. If the ppl dont want a currupt Government, then they will vote that Government Out. Its really not that hard of a concept. embarassedlaugh.gif

PAD is a minority group of ppl who Lost the election and are upset, They have support from the King and the Army, so nothing was done to stop them. The Majority of the Ppl support the RED shirt, that is why they Win ALL the Elections. The ppl have spoken. biggthumpup.gif
aithong
It would more credible to believe the PAD's actions if the leader, Sondi, wasnt an ex friend and business associate of Thaksin that fell out of favor with him prior to the coup. It maybe that the supporters of PAD have the right intentions in their hearts but the guy that brainwashed them doesnt exactly have a great track record of being honest like Thaksin too.
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(Manleow @ Dec 5 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]4036050[/snapback]
O my Freaking JEsus, Please, Please, Please dont compare Thailand to the US. thumbsdown.gif

The US Government would not let our ppl go as far as shutting down the biggest airport let alone the smallest Airport in our country.

We are civilized ppl, not stupid monkey's who cry like baby's because they cant win an election.

If it was the USA, the Police or National Guard would have all those PAD sitting in jail within 24 hours of yellow monkey arses setting foot in the parking lot.

If there is a currupt official in the US Goverment, He or SHe would be voted out of office, Its as simple as that. Ted Steven, the Longest serving Republican Senator was Voted OUT of office this past election for letting a friend of his who owns a contruction company remodel his house.

a Black Mayor of Washington DC got caught on video selling Crack Cocaine to undercover police, He reran for office and the majority of the dominate black populaton of Wsh. DC voted him back to office. Yeah, the ppl must be retarded to vote a crack dealer back to office, but the voice of the ppl have been spoken, and must be respected. You dont see white ppl going to shut down the airport at our national capital because the Currupt Mayor was voted back to office. lolzzz

the main point of this is? Democracy, Yeah, It seems u ppl never heard of it. embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

Another point, NO MATTER how currupt the Government of the US is, if the ppl want a currupt Goverment, then its their Will to have a currupt Government. If the ppl dont want a currupt Government, then they will vote that Government Out. Its really not that hard of a concept. embarassedlaugh.gif

PAD is a minority group of ppl who Lost the election and are upset, They have support from the King and the Army, so nothing was done to stop them. The Majority of the Ppl support the RED shirt, that is why they Win ALL the Elections. The ppl have spoken. biggthumpup.gif


Really? If you're implying that it is easy as to take a vote to ban someone from office, the thai government would've done it ages ago. The truth which most arrogant people like you dont know is that the whole government including various business sectors, political parties, and many government workers are corrupt. So if you think it is that easy to vote out someone corrupt, think again. Do you think the voters are going to vote out the whole government? No. And if you wondering why we havent made a new government, we have. It just never works because all the new government employees are still corrupt.

And Of course the US government wouldnt let that happen, I know cause I worked with them before and know how they act. Also If you are implying that Thailand is uncivilized, I have to admit that we are but what about the US? The truth is that US is the most uncivilized and biggest terrorist in the world. People who know this denies it, and the US people are too ignorant to realize that the government controls all of the media. The US government also controls the people so if, hypothetically, US starts a war with the rest of the world and get banned from the UN, what can the people do? Nothing. If you try to protest You guys will end up in jail. And if you guys try to revolt or riot, you guys will also be put in jail. Its a win win situation for the US gov. and a lose lose situation for the people.

And implying that thai people are monkeys is just arrogant of you, It is this type of attitude that weights the world down and makes you look like retards trying to argue with a more educated person with more connections than you. Also I dont think your government has a democracy nowadays either. It is more of a communist because the government controls the people not the way that it should be (people control the government). Do not judge the people on what you hear and see. You're right, the PAD occupied the airport, But do you even know where? They occupied part of the building Not the runway so why the government shut down the building and shut down the airport evnthough numerous planes could still land and take off? To make the PAD look bad.

Lets just not be prejudice because I can rip apart the US government with the knowledge I know. So next time you try to point out something bad, dont act out of emotions, act out of fact and truth. beerchug.gif
Manleow
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 6 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]4037050[/snapback]
Really? If you're implying that it is easy as to take a vote to ban someone from office, the thai government would've done it ages ago. The truth which most arrogant people like you dont know is that the whole government including various business sectors, political parties, and many government workers are corrupt. So if you think it is that easy to vote out someone corrupt, think again. Do you think the voters are going to vote out the whole government? No. And if you wondering why we havent made a new government, we have. It just never works because all the new government employees are still corrupt.

The Thai government will vote someone out? r u stupid or something? The ppl will vote. If they ppl want to keep the same official, no matter how currupt that person is, if the ppl vote for him, he has the will of the ppl. Do u understand the "WILL OF THE PEOPLE?"

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And Of course the US government wouldnt let that happen, I know cause I worked with them before and know how they act. Also If you are implying that Thailand is uncivilized, I have to admit that we are but what about the US? The truth is that US is the most uncivilized and biggest terrorist in the world. People who know this denies it, and the US people are too ignorant to realize that the government controls all of the media. The US government also controls the people so if, hypothetically, US starts a war with the rest of the world and get banned from the UN, what can the people do? Nothing. If you try to protest You guys will end up in jail. And if you guys try to revolt or riot, you guys will also be put in jail. Its a win win situation for the US gov. and a lose lose situation for the people.
NO the US government will not let that happen, The US is the most uncivilized place in the world? thats why everyone one including all U Thais want to move here. embarassedlaugh.gif Terrorist, lolzzz, George bushes administation needs to go to trail, go ahead and bring up the charges on him, I dont mind. The goverment controls the media, u must be dumb as hell, i guess u never been to the US? because the New's Media has been crushing George Bush in the last 8 Years, OK dude, BUsh will tell the Media to criticize him every single day. embarassedlaugh.gif When did the UN Ban the USA? where the heck do u get ur Infomation at. lolzzz, the US is inside the US, we control it. We can protest, It is in the constitution, we can protest for as long as we want, but we must protest in a civilized manner, we cant destroy anything, we can take over international airports like ur yellow crazy monkey's did.

Where hell do u get ur infomation from? North Korean Television? lolzzzz

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And implying that thai people are monkeys is just arrogant of you, It is this type of attitude that weights the world down and makes you look like retards trying to argue with a more educated person with more connections than you. Also I dont think your government has a democracy nowadays either. It is more of a communist because the government controls the people not the way that it should be (people control the government). Do not judge the people on what you hear and see. You're right, the PAD occupied the airport, But do you even know where? They occupied part of the building Not the runway so why the government shut down the building and shut down the airport evnthough numerous planes could still land and take off? To make the PAD look bad.

Im calling The PAD Yellow Shirt Monkey's. THe Majority of the Thai ppl are civilized, and know how to follow the Law. THE Yellow Shirt MOnkey's think they are above the Law. The Majority of Thailand and Thai ppl are Against the PAD, that is why PAD loses Every SIngle Election. NOt hard to understand. beerchug.gif OK a Mobe overtook parts of an airport, R u stupid or something, lolzzz, u must be kidding, the airport has to put the travelers safety first, some of those monkey's had weapons. Where the hell are u from? dumbarseland? Jesus Christ, u have to be kidding me, ur about the dumbest person i have ever talked to. Nhoona looks like a genius compared to you. lolzzzz

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Lets just not be prejudice because I can rip apart the US government with the knowledge I know. So next time you try to point out something bad, dont act out of emotions, act out of fact and truth. beerchug.gif
Ur an Idiot, U can critized the US government all u want, I will help you dummy. George Bush is the worse President in US History, and his party has brought the whole world into an economic meltdown, That is why We American's voted most of his party out of office. There u go, if u need more help, let me know. biggthumpup.gif Its called Democracy dude, lolzzz learn it.
Manleow
from Newsweek Magazine: (portions)

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Antidemocracy protestors succeed in bringing down the government, but the conflict is far from over: by Lennox Samuels

The PAD is determined to erase any Thaksin elements from power and also has bold goal of reshaping Thailand's political landscape by creating a "new" politics. Notwithstanding its name, the groups's objectives would not strike many as especially democratic. Founded largely by middle and upper class people from Bangkok and other southern parts of the country, the PAD is unabashedly royalist. Thaksin's populist economic policies and efforts to decentralized power from Bangkok were anathema to the alliance. It apparently has little use for the bedrock democratic notion of one man, one vote. Shrugging off the fact that Thaksin was elected in a landslide and that his successors also were democratically chosen, PAD leaders have called for the constitutional amendments requiring that some members of Parlement be royally appointed. Some analysts say the PAD is far more about oligarchy then democracy, and some even quip that it would not be averse to restoring an absolute monarchy.

Many Pro-government activist gathered outside the Constitutional Court which is seen as an organ of the PAD. Even some Thais who once criticized Thaksin's autocratic ways and alleged cronyism bridle at what they see as high-handedness within the PAD.

See, The Whole World knows what is going on in Thailand. The world is not stupid, they know the PAD are an anti Democratic group. To be honest, I didn't know it was so bad, until I started to read many news reports around the world on the situation in Thailand. Almost every single one knows what is actually happening in Thailand.

Notice the news agency called PAD an "Anti democracy" group, as in Most other world New's agency's.

I was a little worried though, I would think the young and the educated youth of Thailand would be against the PAD. I thought younger ppl admired democracy? Not try to end Democracy for a totalitarian dictatorship.

I will make a prediction, but will tell it later. biggthumpup.gif
Thaisp.unit
ok let me ask you something first of all, do u know where Illinois is? Because if you do then I'm sure you know it is in US and its where I live. Also from my analysis your just a citizen trying to prove out of your emotions. First of all, I was invited to US I was far from eager to come to the US. Your just in denial just like the rest of the US people.do you even know anything about eastern culture. If your that arrogant to insult a person whose actually worked with the US and Thai government before then you're just stupid. Do you really think you guys can take over an airport in US you will be sitting jail even before you get within a 100m radius of it. And guess what? If you didn't hear what I mentioned earlier that Us is uncivilized you are in plain denial. You think US is civilized because they go into other peoples country to take their oil and their excuse for it is that the country has WMDs? And after the top class inspectors go over into Iraq and check to see if they had WMDs, they could not find even one. Then when they invade Iraq they say Alqaeda are using the country as a base. When the real truth is that Alqaede operates worldwide. Also the reason US insults bush everday is because of the falling economic status of US. You have your right to think and believe what you want about Thailand, US, the PAD and whoever else. But when you argue with someone don't act out of your emotions or what you think is right, act out of facts. I don't feel like explaining everyhting to you so just drop it becuase you obviously had no experience with politics and don't have any connections.
aithong
There's coruption everywhere it doesnt matter which country you live in because there's huge amounts of money involved so whoever gets in power will have control over the distribution of money. The coruption problem in Thailand has been going on way before Thaksin was in power but just now becomeing a problem because his opponents dont get a cut of the money.
Manleow
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 7 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]4038148[/snapback]
ok let me ask you something first of all, do u know where Illinois is? Because if you do then I'm sure you know it is in US and its where I live. Also from my analysis your just a citizen trying to prove out of your emotions. First of all, I was invited to US I was far from eager to come to the US. Your just in denial just like the rest of the US people.do you even know anything about eastern culture. If your that arrogant to insult a person whose actually worked with the US and Thai government before then you're just stupid. Do you really think you guys can take over an airport in US you will be sitting jail even before you get within a 100m radius of it. And guess what? If you didn't hear what I mentioned earlier that Us is uncivilized you are in plain denial. You think US is civilized because they go into other peoples country to take their oil and their excuse for it is that the country has WMDs? And after the top class inspectors go over into Iraq and check to see if they had WMDs, they could not find even one. Then when they invade Iraq they say Alqaeda are using the country as a base. When the real truth is that Alqaede operates worldwide. Also the reason US insults bush everday is because of the falling economic status of US. You have your right to think and believe what you want about Thailand, US, the PAD and whoever else. But when you argue with someone don't act out of your emotions or what you think is right, act out of facts. I don't feel like explaining everyhting to you so just drop it becuase you obviously had no experience with politics and don't have any connections.

Ur a dumbarse Thaisp, Who is arguing about WMD's? lolzzz, If anyone wants to take the Bush administation to the world court, then i dont mind dummy. The US should of never invaded Iraq, I've stated that before ur dumbarse ever came into AF, THe US went into Iraq because of Oil, if Iraq had no Oil, then there would of been No invasion. HOw do i know, because the US media reports it everyday. Its called a free Media, we can be critical of anyone at anytime. And Yes, I know more about Eastern Culture then you. embarassedlaugh.gif I have more Eastern Culture in my pinky fingure then u have in ur whole body.

R u like dumb or something? They said Alqaede set up a base camp in Iraq after the US had already invaded it, They have other base camps, maybe its just ur English, u dont understand what u are saying. The main base camp of Alqaede is between the boarder regions of Pakistan and Afganistan, as The US Government and the media has always been saying.

Lolzzz, I dont feel like explaining to someones as uneducated as you, ur obviously not a very smart person, other wise u wouldnt sound so elementary, so just drop it because you are a loser who knows nothing about politics and would kiss my feet if u saw me. lolzzz, u have no connection, i have more connection then u will ever have, loser.

Ur an obvious retard because what u say, doesnt make sense. U argue points from which no one is trying to argue, so pretty much, ur talking to urself. So please go learn how to debate or back up what u say, because i will make u look like the loser u are. biggthumpup.gif u understand? i didnt think so. embarassedlaugh.gif
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(aithong @ Dec 8 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]4039162[/snapback]
There's coruption everywhere it doesnt matter which country you live in because there's huge amounts of money involved so whoever gets in power will have control over the distribution of money. The coruption problem in Thailand has been going on way before Thaksin was in power but just now becomeing a problem because his opponents dont get a cut of the money.


Exactly. Great way to put it for Manelow because that was my thesis of my post but he denied everything saying Thais are monkeys, and that the people get to choose if the government is corrupt or not. That is clearly not true due to bribes as well as numerous other things. Saying that Thais are monkeys is just rude, and based on biased opinoins and beliefs. Anyway....so aithong what is your view on the PAD and how they affect Thailand as a whole? confused.gif
Bounthy
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 9 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]4040553[/snapback]
Exactly. Great way to put it for Manelow because that was my thesis of my post but he denied everything saying Thais are monkeys, and that the people get to choose if the government is corrupt or not. That is clearly not true due to bribes as well as numerous other things. Saying that Thais are monkeys is just rude, and based on biased opinoins and beliefs. Anyway....so aithong what is your view on the PAD and how they affect Thailand as a whole? confused.gif


You are still new here. You shouldn't take some of what Manleaw said too seriously.
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(Manleow @ Dec 8 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]4039243[/snapback]
Ur a dumbarse Thaisp, Who is arguing about WMD's? lolzzz, If anyone wants to take the Bush administation to the world court, then i dont mind dummy. The US should of never invaded Iraq, I've stated that before ur dumbarse ever came into AF, THe US went into Iraq because of Oil, if Iraq had no Oil, then there would of been No invasion. HOw do i know, because the US media reports it everyday. Its called a free Media, we can be critical of anyone at anytime. And Yes, I know more about Eastern Culture then you. embarassedlaugh.gif I have more Eastern Culture in my pinky fingure then u have in ur whole body.

R u like dumb or something? They said Alqaede set up a base camp in Iraq after the US had already invaded it, They have other base camps, maybe its just ur English, u dont understand what u are saying. The main base camp of Alqaede is between the boarder regions of Pakistan and Afganistan, as The US Government and the media has always been saying.

Lolzzz, I dont feel like explaining to someones as uneducated as you, ur obviously not a very smart person, other wise u wouldnt sound so elementary, so just drop it because you are a loser who knows nothing about politics and would kiss my feet if u saw me. lolzzz, u have no connection, i have more connection then u will ever have, loser.

Ur an obvious retard because what u say, doesnt make sense. U argue points from which no one is trying to argue, so pretty much, ur talking to urself. So please go learn how to debate or back up what u say, because i will make u look like the loser u are. biggthumpup.gif u understand? i didnt think so. embarassedlaugh.gif



Ok thats just ignorant of you to say that but whatever, belive what you want because obviously you dont listen to the facts, you just talk and talk about what you think is true but is really biased not to mention disrespectful and eventually hope that you can win the arguement. Well Let me tell you something if you're going to assume that I'm a dumass, I'm in elementary school, and that I dont have more connections than you, as well as that you know more about eastern culture than I do, that just prooves who's the one trying to win instead of having an argumentable debate about the PAD. You can win because I really dont care, its a chat. You can say I have rock hard abbs and can bench 350 or I have a big 10inch dck. Do you really think I'm gonna belive you unless you can prove it or atleast back it up with some facts. Do you have facts that US is a free media? Oh sure everyone says because thats what the government wants you to believe that but do you really think it is? Like the incident concerning Guantanamo Base camp. It took reporters atleast a year to tell how the "terrorist" there were being mistreated and not given lawyers, etc. And do you know who was trying to prevent the media from exposing that info? The government. Thats just an example. Have you even been in Iraq or Pakistan to tell me about Alqaeda. I know what the media says but is it really sensible and realiable? Of course I know that US went in there for oil, any sensible person would know that. But as I told you, I'm not going to answer to someone who doesnt listen and just talks. And just mentioning this but Im pretty sure if we meet, unless your some really buff guy who can break a brick or something then dont assume you'll be able to kick my as. Also what ethnicity are you and where were you born, and whats your job? And don't give me some bs about how I'm Asian and parents are millinionairs with billion dollar companies. Tell me the truth. And why you gotta be so critical of everything I say? Just saying but really, if your chatting on this website your probably a geek. And if you want to say I'm a geek, fine I'll admit I still play xbox 360 6 hours a week. You know what? Whatever, say what you want, believe what you want, but if you want a discussion, then speak with facts. And don't tell me how "Oh a discussion? youre stupid, why would I want to discuss something with you when I obviously know the facts and you dont" I've heard all of them before but from the way you're talking, youre just talking to win, am I right? If not tell me. beerchug.gif
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(Bounthy @ Dec 9 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]4040558[/snapback]
You are still new here. You shouldn't take some of what Manleaw said too seriously.


Thats obviously true, I know it's a chat and everything but you're right. I'm just trying to point out facts while he is just talkin sht and trying to win. If you read my earlier post, then you know I'm just trying to have a discussion. laugh.gif
Manleow
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 9 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]4040585[/snapback]
Ok thats just ignorant of you to say that but whatever, belive what you want because obviously you dont listen to the facts, you just talk and talk about what you think is true but is really biased not to mention disrespectful and eventually hope that you can win the arguement. Well Let me tell you something if you're going to assume that I'm a dumass, I'm in elementary school, and that I dont have more connections than you, as well as that you know more about eastern culture than I do, that just prooves who's the one trying to win instead of having an argumentable debate about the PAD. You can win because I really dont care, its a chat. You can say I have rock hard abbs and can bench 350 or I have a big 10inch dck. Do you really think I'm gonna belive you unless you can prove it or atleast back it up with some facts. Do you have facts that US is a free media? Oh sure everyone says because thats what the government wants you to believe that but do you really think it is? Like the incident concerning Guantanamo Base camp. It took reporters atleast a year to tell how the "terrorist" there were being mistreated and not given lawyers, etc. And do you know who was trying to prevent the media from exposing that info? The government. Thats just an example. Have you even been in Iraq or Pakistan to tell me about Alqaeda. I know what the media says but is it really sensible and realiable? Of course I know that US went in there for oil, any sensible person would know that. But as I told you, I'm not going to answer to someone who doesnt listen and just talks. And just mentioning this but Im pretty sure if we meet, unless your some really buff guy who can break a brick or something then dont assume you'll be able to kick my as. Also what ethnicity are you and where were you born, and whats your job? And don't give me some bs about how I'm Asian and parents are millinionairs with billion dollar companies. Tell me the truth. And why you gotta be so critical of everything I say? Just saying but really, if your chatting on this website your probably a geek. And if you want to say I'm a geek, fine I'll admit I still play xbox 360 6 hours a week. You know what? Whatever, say what you want, believe what you want, but if you want a discussion, then speak with facts. And don't tell me how "Oh a discussion? youre stupid, why would I want to discuss something with you when I obviously know the facts and you dont" I've heard all of them before but from the way you're talking, youre just talking to win, am I right? If not tell me. beerchug.gif

Blah blah blah blah, wat da hell r u talking about dude? Jesus christ, could u break up ur paragraphs a little, u might make a little sense if u did; well thats kinda stretching it, u dont make sense no matter what u do or try to say.

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It is this type of attitude that weights the world down and makes you look like retards trying to argue with a more educated person with more connections than you.


this dude is telling me how I dont have connection that he has some kind of connection, and i make fun of him sarcastically, he then accuses me of making issue of personal connections. YoOo Thaisp, dude just shut ur face dude, its obviously u have no clue how to debate or make any discussion because u have no clue in what ur even saying.

U obviously dont know how to read, because everything i say, and responded to, u ignore and rant on about the same thing, like the idiot u are.

U claim i am in denial? what the hell are u talking about dude. embarassedlaugh.gif everything u accused me of being in denial of, i said i already know that is true. so please, if u dont want to look stupid, just dont say a thing because ur not making any sense what so ever, u sound like a little monkey jumping up and down, being all crazy and stuff. lolzzz

I also said, the PAD look like little yellow monkeys, Most Thai ppl are against the PAD, they are the civilized ppl, who abide by the Law, pay their dues and only want a voice in their own country. Not very hard of a concept. biggthumpup.gif

I didnt say i will kick ur arse dummy, i said kiss my feet. Did u know the king of Thailand is my distant cousin. SO yeah, kiss my feet dude, because u will be blessed if my toe nail pricks ur face when u lean over and kiss it. who the hell r u? embarassedlaugh.gif

just because i make u look stupid, doesnt mean i want to win anything, i just like making u look stupid. embarassedlaugh.gif. I like blogging because i like to pass the time in the office, and I dont play with X-box or playstation or Wii, sorry dude, i guess i have more of a life then you. embarassedlaugh.gif
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(Manleow @ Dec 9 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]4040693[/snapback]
Blah blah blah blah, wat da hell r u talking about dude? Jesus christ, could u break up ur paragraphs a little, u might make a little sense if u did; well thats kinda stretching it, u dont make sense no matter what u do or try to say.

this dude is telling me how I dont have connection that he has some kind of connection, and i make fun of him sarcastically, he then accuses me of making issue of personal connections. YoOo Thaisp, dude just shut ur face dude, its obviously u have no clue how to debate or make any discussion because u have no clue in what ur even saying.

U obviously dont know how to read, because everything i say, and responded to, u ignore and rant on about the same thing, like the idiot u are.

U claim i am in denial? what the hell are u talking about dude. embarassedlaugh.gif everything u accused me of being in denial of, i said i already know that is true. so please, if u dont want to look stupid, just dont say a thing because ur not making any sense what so ever, u sound like a little monkey jumping up and down, being all crazy and stuff. lolzzz

I also said, the PAD look like little yellow monkeys, Most Thai ppl are against the PAD, they are the civilized ppl, who abide by the Law, pay their dues and only want a voice in their own country. Not very hard of a concept. biggthumpup.gif

I didnt say i will kick ur arse dummy, i said kiss my feet. Did u know the king of Thailand is my distant cousin. SO yeah, kiss my feet dude, because u will be blessed if my toe nail pricks ur face when u lean over and kiss it. who the hell r u? embarassedlaugh.gif

just because i make u look stupid, doesnt mean i want to win anything, i just like making u look stupid. embarassedlaugh.gif. I like blogging because i like to pass the time in the office, and I dont play with X-box or playstation or Wii, sorry dude, i guess i have more of a life then you. embarassedlaugh.gif



ok w/e man the king is your distant cousin, as I already said you can say all the bs in the world unless you back it up with facts, its not true. If you say that I can say your mom sucked my dck. Its the same concept so just talk all you want cause no one cares. And if you havent noticed you are just desperate for attention and just want to win, get a life dude. Its a stupid chat, Anyone can post anything so if you want a real chat from an "educated person" go try using your facts over at harvard graduated political analysts because I have. And then you see what they say and think of you. I'm out. beerchug.gif
aithong
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 9 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]4040553[/snapback]
Exactly. Great way to put it for Manelow because that was my thesis of my post but he denied everything saying Thais are monkeys, and that the people get to choose if the government is corrupt or not. That is clearly not true due to bribes as well as numerous other things. Saying that Thais are monkeys is just rude, and based on biased opinoins and beliefs. Anyway....so aithong what is your view on the PAD and how they affect Thailand as a whole? confused.gif


I dont like the PAD's tactics because they did more harm than good for the your country's image and at the same time they made Thaksin look good. Coruptions have always been part of Thai politics even before thaksin came into power but now you have two opposing forces that are fighting for the big prize. I will not disagree that Thaksin was corupt but he did enough to keep the majority of the people happy so he could continue with his own agenda similiar to what we have here the US as well. If the Democrats can find a way to bring people together then i guess they deserve to be in power but then again if you have the same people in power for along time, you'll end up with coruptions again. I'm also concerned with PAD's idea of having 70% PMs appointed rather elected because these people will not have to worry about responding to voters needs and they will still be in office which will not do much good for Thailand to make progress.
aithong
Another thing i want to add too is that this new government need to have everybody from the police, military and parliament behind them not fragmented like in the past. I know some Thai members may think it's a great that you can keep overthrowing a government by using the military but they fail to realize that they need to have stable government in order for your country to solve real important issues like the economy or education. Everytime you guys do that you lose the confidence foreign companies that are trying to do business with you. If your economy is no good then you're gonna lag behind other SEA countries like Vietnam and Malaysia. Take a look at China with their booming economy, they are now becoming almost a superpower rivaling that of the US.
Bounthy
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 9 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]4040591[/snapback]
Thats obviously true, I know it's a chat and everything but you're right. I'm just trying to point out facts while he is just talkin sht and trying to win. If you read my earlier post, then you know I'm just trying to have a discussion. laugh.gif


Yes, I read most of your posts and I understood that you wanted to have a mature discussion devoid of the need for insults, in spite of differences of opinions or ideologies that may exist among members. You may possibly have that with Aithong. Otherwise, a few other sane Lao members just disappeared, or stay quietly on the sideline.

Take it easy!
Manleow
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 9 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]4040766[/snapback]
ok w/e man the king is your distant cousin, as I already said you can say all the bs in the world unless you back it up with facts, its not true. If you say that I can say your mom sucked my dck. Its the same concept so just talk all you want cause no one cares. And if you havent noticed you are just desperate for attention and just want to win, get a life dude. Its a stupid chat, Anyone can post anything so if you want a real chat from an "educated person" go try using your facts over at harvard graduated political analysts because I have. And then you see what they say and think of you. I'm out. beerchug.gif

So ur Talking as though ur trying to have a civilized discussion, I suppose talking about ppls mamma's is ur idea of one. embarassedlaugh.gif since were on the subject, u have to face that fact that ur mamma is Thai, so most likely she sucked my penis for $5, not the other way around idiot. at least get ur facts right.

If my great uncle is Praya of Viengchan, Praya Ae and Praya Gethong, And the Kings Mother is a Lao princes who's relatives are from Viengchan, as written in the book The kings older sister wrote, "Mother told us." I guess that means he is a distant cousin, that is ur proof dummy. just as Sara Palin is a distant cousin of Princess Dianna, and Barack Obama is a distant cousin of d!ck Chainey. embarassedlaugh.gif so it should be an honor for u to wipe my arse.

Just because i make u look stupid, and everything u say doesnt make sense, dont blame me ok, just blame urself for making such stupid comments and suggest things that have no logical meaning. I own you, and i own ur momma too, which goes against that point of why she even charges me in the first place? i mean, wtf is that about confused.gif

if u want a real discussion just let me know, if u cant handle it, then i suggest u put on some makeup go buy a dress and find a job working in Pattaya. deuce deuce embarassedlaugh.gif

Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(aithong @ Dec 9 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]4041253[/snapback]
Another thing i want to add too is that this new government need to have everybody from the police, military and parliament behind them not fragmented like in the past. I know some Thai members may think it's a great that you can keep overthrowing a government by using the military but they fail to realize that they need to have stable government in order for your country to solve real important issues like the economy or education. Everytime you guys do that you lose the confidence foreign companies that are trying to do business with you. If your economy is no good then you're gonna lag behind other SEA countries like Vietnam and Malaysia. Take a look at China with their booming economy, they are now becoming almost a superpower rivaling that of the US.


That's true, I agree with you that the PADs methods are sometimes not justified and that taking over the airport is a little extreeme but I'm not sure I agree with the government supporters since the government is so corrupt nowadays. I mean I know the government has always been corrupt but the corruption is growing faster than ever. That is also true about what you said that we need a stable government but we can't really do that because every new government that is set up will be corrupt. From my viewpoint I think Thailand will never truly have a stable government. I just hope the condition gets better and that the global markets are restored to normal. beerchug.gif

Also I prob. Will not be on for a while because of finals so sorry if I don't reply until a couple days later.
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(Bounthy @ Dec 10 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]4041693[/snapback]
Yes, I read most of your posts and I understood that you wanted to have a mature discussion devoid of the need for insults, in spite of differences of opinions or ideologies that may exist among members. You may possibly have that with Aithong. Otherwise, a few other sane Lao members just disappeared, or stay quietly on the sideline.

Take it easy!


Yeah thanks man I usually am not ever agressive becuause overtime I learned that agression leads to hurt emotions which lead to mental distress for everyone resulting in fights, etc.
Manleow
QUOTE(Bounthy @ Dec 10 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]4041693[/snapback]
Yes, I read most of your posts and I understood that you wanted to have a mature discussion devoid of the need for insults, in spite of differences of opinions or ideologies that may exist among members. You may possibly have that with Aithong. Otherwise, a few other sane Lao members just disappeared, or stay quietly on the sideline.

Take it easy!

Bounthy ur a loser, are u Siri boyfriend or something? Im just putting Thaisp in his place, its pathetic that he would attempt to compare his sorry arse to me, i have more brain power in my pinky then he has in his entire self.
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(Manleow @ Dec 10 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]4042171[/snapback]
Bounthy ur a loser, are u Siri boyfriend or something? Im just putting Thaisp in his place, its pathetic that he would attempt to compare his sorry arse to me, i have more brain power in my pinky then he has in his entire self.


stop posting stuff because with yo brody a$$ attitude, aint no one wanna talk with you. How bout u stop talkin sht and I wont get my goons to jump yo a$$.
Thaisp.unit
Sry guys that was my friend. He didn't mean any of that.
Manleow
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 10 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]4042267[/snapback]
stop posting stuff because with yo brody a$$ attitude, aint no one wanna talk with you. How bout u stop talkin sht and I wont get my goons to jump yo a$$.

lolzzz, goons, who says goons these days? u must be ban nork moo foo. dont worry dude, tell ur boyfriend to take it like a man, yo yo, aint no shiite nigga, am bust a capp in yo arse foo, deuce deuce embarassedlaugh.gif

where do we get these retarded ppl from? i got some ghetto freak now, looking like the idiot he is, most likely Thaisp gay lover, gettin all mad at me cuz i make fun of his boyfriend lover. embarassedlaugh.gif
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(Manleow @ Dec 10 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]4042564[/snapback]
lolzzz, goons, who says goons these days? u must be ban nork moo foo. dont worry dude, tell ur boyfriend to take it like a man, yo yo, aint no shiite nigga, am bust a capp in yo arse foo, deuce deuce embarassedlaugh.gif

where do we get these retarded ppl from? i got some ghetto freak now, looking like the idiot he is, most likely Thaisp gay lover, gettin all mad at me cuz i make fun of his boyfriend lover. embarassedlaugh.gif


hey man, its not necessary to say the n word. And what do you expect I live in the south side of Chi-town. I have white friends too but let me tell you somethin, do you really think I'm ban nook huh? I'm straight from Bangkok so I have no idea what you're talking about, and seriously thats why you have no friends calling people gay and so forth. And also how you gon tell me about how my friend is gay and that no one says goons these days. I'm pretty sure you dont live in US so youre just an a$$. I'm pretty sure he could woop ur a$$ also. He benches 250, dead lifts 420, squats 300. I'm def. sure I could too so dont be assuming how I gonna kiss ur feet. If anything you'll be kissing mine. You wanna know somethin else, my parents make more money than you will ever in your whole life. And after I finish law school, I will too. What you know about that? What you know about that? What you know about that? See I know all about that. beerchug.gif

I already know what you gon say so dont even say it cause no one is listening to you. beerchug.gif
Manleow
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 11 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]4043766[/snapback]
hey man, its not necessary to say the n word. And what do you expect I live in the south side of Chi-town. I have white friends too but let me tell you somethin, do you really think I'm ban nook huh? I'm straight from Bangkok so I have no idea what you're talking about, and seriously thats why you have no friends calling people gay and so forth. And also how you gon tell me about how my friend is gay and that no one says goons these days. I'm pretty sure you dont live in US so youre just an a$$. I'm pretty sure he could woop ur a$$ also. He benches 250, dead lifts 420, squats 300. I'm def. sure I could too so dont be assuming how I gonna kiss ur feet. If anything you'll be kissing mine. You wanna know somethin else, my parents make more money than you will ever in your whole life. And after I finish law school, I will too. What you know about that? What you know about that? What you know about that? See I know all about that. beerchug.gif

I already know what you gon say so dont even say it cause no one is listening to you. beerchug.gif

lolzzz, what the hell was that, u trying to rap or something? embarassedlaugh.gif what a freaking clown, what u know about that, what u know about that?? what the hell are you talking about? what a retard, what u know about that? embarassedlaugh.gif and ur going to be a lawyer, a ladyboy lawyer, ur going to dress in a blue dress and try to fight for ladyboy rights all around the world, let me guess ur going to try and get ladyboys to be about to vote twice since they are both lady and boy. embarassedlaugh.gif

retard, i know u and ur boyfriend that benches 250, work out everynight in enlarging ur corn holes. bawling.gif

Ur parents are low class, Im a distant relative of the King of Thailand, kiss my feet monkey. I own u and ur whole family, but ur lucky Rama4th ended slavery because ur whole family would be wiping my toilet right now bangkonian ladyboy. beerchug.gif ur lucky i have a good heart, or I might just get my distant uncle to slapp ur arse around with his royal hand embarassedlaugh.gif
laoprince
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 11 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]4043766[/snapback]
hey man, its not necessary to say the n word. And what do you expect I live in the south side of Chi-town. I have white friends too but let me tell you somethin, do you really think I'm ban nook huh? I'm straight from Bangkok so I have no idea what you're talking about, and seriously thats why you have no friends calling people gay and so forth. And also how you gon tell me about how my friend is gay and that no one says goons these days. I'm pretty sure you dont live in US so youre just an a$$. I'm pretty sure he could woop ur a$$ also. He benches 250, dead lifts 420, squats 300. I'm def. sure I could too so dont be assuming how I gonna kiss ur feet. If anything you'll be kissing mine. You wanna know somethin else, my parents make more money than you will ever in your whole life. And after I finish law school, I will too. What you know about that? What you know about that? What you know about that? See I know all about that. beerchug.gif

I already know what you gon say so dont even say it cause no one is listening to you. beerchug.gif


You straight out of Ladyboy street. LOL laugh.gif
aithong
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 10 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]4042114[/snapback]
That's true, I agree with you that the PADs methods are sometimes not justified and that taking over the airport is a little extreeme but I'm not sure I agree with the government supporters since the government is so corrupt nowadays. I mean I know the government has always been corrupt but the corruption is growing faster than ever. That is also true about what you said that we need a stable government but we can't really do that because every new government that is set up will be corrupt. From my viewpoint I think Thailand will never truly have a stable government. I just hope the condition gets better and that the global markets are restored to normal. beerchug.gif

Also I prob. Will not be on for a while because of finals so sorry if I don't reply until a couple days later.


You can never get rid of curuption completely it's our human nature to be greedy. I think it's possible to keep coruption to a minimum and still have functioning governement. If we really want coruption free governement then i think placing the buddhist monks in charge of the governemnt but then again i dont think most of us will be able live like those monks, right? Come to think of it, there was a time in the history of Europe when the Roman Catholic church was running everything but we all know how ruthless even they could be, right?
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(aithong @ Dec 12 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]4045055[/snapback]
You can never get rid of curuption completely it's our human nature to be greedy. I think it's possible to keep coruption to a minimum and still have functioning governement. If we really want coruption free governement then i think placing the buddhist monks in charge of the governemnt but then again i dont think most of us will be able live like those monks, right? Come to think of it, there was a time in the history of Europe when the Roman Catholic church was running everything but we all know how ruthless even they could be, right?


Yeah, I know they were very bad, they killed anyone that questioned their religion. Also its true that corruption is everywhere and will never be ridden of. Even in US theres still corruption like how Rod Blagojevich (governor of Illinois) was arrested by the FBI for trying to sell Barack Obama's seat for his own benefits. There are a few people in this world who can act off reason, and benefits and are educated in politics. If we can get those people to be in the thai government it would be highly beneficial. I dont think there is even a chance that that will happen though.

And also to all you Thai haters, why you gotta look down on us, that just says who you are. There will always be people like this who says oh thai ladyboy dis thai ladyboi dat. Man you people got nothin on me and I can tell you right now I'm far from being a hermaphrodite. And plus, just saying I am not against gais but I'm definitely not for them. And manelow how u gon tell me how my parents are low life? Can your mom get a full score on toefel and get into harvard? exactly. Or can your dad own a private business that makes hundreds of thousands a day? Or does he so many connections that no one even can touch him? Or can u get a full score on the SAT (2400 if you didnt know casue you dont live in US when you said u did, U LIAR), get into U of Penn, and study Law at Duke University? And also How you gon tell me if someone you dont even know is gai. Just for your info, he has a girlfriend, is starting center for the basketball team and #1 on swim team. Me, I'm starting wide receiver on football team, and #3 fastest on track team. What you know about dat is song by T.I. and obviously youve never heard of it so dont even talk. You just a hater who thinks hes better than everyone when obviously youre not. madcool.gif
Manleow
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 13 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]4045675[/snapback]
And also to all you Thai haters, why you gotta look down on us, that just says who you are. There will always be people like this who says oh thai ladyboy dis thai ladyboi dat. Man you people got nothin on me and I can tell you right now I'm far from being a hermaphrodite. And plus, just saying I am not against gais but I'm definitely not for them. And manelow how u gon tell me how my parents are low life? Can your mom get a full score on toefel and get into harvard? exactly. Or can your dad own a private business that makes hundreds of thousands a day? Or does he so many connections that no one even can touch him? Or can u get a full score on the SAT (2400 if you didnt know casue you dont live in US when you said u did, U LIAR), get into U of Penn, and study Law at Duke University? And also How you gon tell me if someone you dont even know is gai. Just for your info, he has a girlfriend, is starting center for the basketball team and #1 on swim team. Me, I'm starting wide receiver on football team, and #3 fastest on track team. What you know about dat is song by T.I. and obviously youve never heard of it so dont even talk. You just a hater who thinks hes better than everyone when obviously youre not. madcool.gif

I support the King of Thailand since he is my distant relative, I just hate it that the PAD is making him look bad and giving his Kingdom a very bad name. they are shameless, how dare they put themselves before The King and before Thailand.

Lolzzz, O yeah, did i tell you, The King of THailand is my distant relative so lick my ballz ladyboy embarassedlaugh.gif

U barely can speak english dummy, i can tell by just reading ur sentences. Im apart of a 2000 year old royal bloodline. even ur king bloodline goes only back 200 years, i got 1800 years on my uncle the king of Thailand. biggthumpup.gif , but dont get me wrong, i like ur King, he is a good man, however his blood is just not as pure as mine thats all, he has some of the Mon/Khmer blood and jek blood also, im from the pure AiLao stock,

Man u got nothin on me, embarassedlaugh.gif ur a hermaphrodite with a Gay boyfriend, im sure ur gay swimmer boyfriend likes to practice his strokes on ur arse, lolzzz,

Im an All-American Highschool soccer player, I got a full scholarship to college, If i didnt tear my ACL in college, i would drop kick ur low class arse. embarassedlaugh.gif
Thaisp.unit
QUOTE(Manleow @ Dec 13 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]4046181[/snapback]
I support the King of Thailand since he is my distant relative, I just hate it that the PAD is making him look bad and giving his Kingdom a very bad name. they are shameless, how dare they put themselves before The King and before Thailand.

Lolzzz, O yeah, did i tell you, The King of THailand is my distant relative so lick my ballz ladyboy embarassedlaugh.gif

U barely can speak english dummy, i can tell by just reading ur sentences. Im apart of a 2000 year old royal bloodline. even ur king bloodline goes only back 200 years, i got 1800 years on my uncle the king of Thailand. biggthumpup.gif , but dont get me wrong, i like ur King, he is a good man, however his blood is just not as pure as mine thats all, he has some of the Mon/Khmer blood and jek blood also, im from the pure AiLao stock,

Man u got nothin on me, embarassedlaugh.gif ur a hermaphrodite with a Gay boyfriend, im sure ur gay swimmer boyfriend likes to practice his strokes on ur arse, lolzzz,

Im an All-American Highschool soccer player, I got a full scholarship to college, If i didnt tear my ACL in college, i would drop kick ur low class arse. embarassedlaugh.gif


good, I see your replying much less hostile now, we are making progress. Well I'm not saying I agree with PAD but I'm not agreeing with the government either. Now You can think what you want but I'm pretty sure if I get into Duke Univ. I can speak English. Wait, what team do you play for in soccer?. And what college are you talking about? Just Wondering if you dont mind. beerchug.gif

OK Im not a ladyboy, seriously you need to stop calling me a f@g.
Bounthy
QUOTE(aithong @ Dec 12 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]4045055[/snapback]
You can never get rid of curuption completely it's our human nature to be greedy. I think it's possible to keep coruption to a minimum and still have functioning governement. If we really want coruption free governement then i think placing the buddhist monks in charge of the governemnt but then again i dont think most of us will be able live like those monks, right? Come to think of it, there was a time in the history of Europe when the Roman Catholic church was running everything but we all know how ruthless even they could be, right?

Yep, people can only try their best to minimize corruption. As long as there are a few humans living together as a society, there will always be competition and tendency to corrupt. The monks are also humans like all of us. Some nations, mostly the more prosperous ones, manage to keep corruption to the minimum better than others do, primarily the developing and third world countries.

http://www.transparency.org/news_room/in_f.../cpi_2008_table
Manleow
QUOTE(Thaisp.unit @ Dec 14 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]4046576[/snapback]
good, I see your replying much less hostile now, we are making progress. Well I'm not saying I agree with PAD but I'm not agreeing with the government either. Now You can think what you want but I'm pretty sure if I get into Duke Univ. I can speak English. Wait, what team do you play for in soccer?. And what college are you talking about? Just Wondering if you dont mind. beerchug.gif

OK Im not a ladyboy, seriously you need to stop calling me a f@g.

Well its nice to see that ur not looking so gay as u always seem to be biggthumpup.gif

In terms of Thailand, I hope their democracy will withstand the terror the PAD has caused for that nation.

So there is no hate but love for Thailand, I hope the ppl will be able to voice their opinion and take the power that was given to them by Allah and no one else.

Every person of Power is corrupt in some way or another, some are just more corrupt then others. Minor corruption is usually just overlooked. If u use ur power to gain something otherwise wouldn't of been given to you, that within itself is a form of corruption. If u take anything without paying for it, that is corruption; that is, if ur a person of influence over others in matters of their economic welfare.

let me give u an example, A friend of mine from Thailand sent me an article about the King of Thailand, my distant relative whom I have high respect for. laugh.gif she loves the king and all, but was so surprised by the article, she wanted to share it with me.

The article was summing up a situation of some sorts; btw the King of THailand, his riches and financial institutions. One of the examples of how the King came to become so wealthy was during the Asian economic crisis. The King of THailand used his position of power and nobility to force banks into lending him High risk loans, Loans of which no other financial institution would otherwise be given any other individual. Then the Market crashed, the king bails out of his responsibilities to the banks, and the ppl who lent him the loans where jumping out of windows because they lost their entire lively hood. Now, do we see PAD closing down the airport asking the King of Thailand to step down? of course not.

See the protest of the PAD is a protest of jealousy and greed. It is not becoming of any person or group whom have honor and love of their country, those who Pick and choose matters of self interest over conscious are such ppl the PAD represent. Its not honorable or should it be respected. beerchug.gif
yokie
QUOTE(Manleow @ Dec 15 2008, 06:13 AM) [snapback]4047134[/snapback]
Well its nice to see that ur not looking so gay as u always seem to be biggthumpup.gif

In terms of Thailand, I hope their democracy will withstand the terror the PAD has caused for that nation.

So there is no hate but love for Thailand, I hope the ppl will be able to voice their opinion and take the power that was given to them by Allah and no one else.

Every person of Power is corrupt in some way or another, some are just more corrupt then others. Minor corruption is usually just overlooked. If u use ur power to gain something otherwise wouldn't of been given to you, that within itself is a form of corruption. If u take anything without paying for it, that is corruption; that is, if ur a person of influence over others in matters of their economic welfare.

let me give u an example, A friend of mine from Thailand sent me an article about the King of Thailand, my distant relative whom I have high respect for. laugh.gif she loves the king and all, but was so surprised by the article, she wanted to share it with me.

The article was summing up a situation of some sorts; btw the King of THailand, his riches and financial institutions. One of the examples of how the King came to become so wealthy was during the Asian economic crisis. The King of THailand used his position of power and nobility to force banks into lending him High risk loans, Loans of which no other financial institution would otherwise be given any other individual. Then the Market crashed, the king bails out of his responsibilities to the banks, and the ppl who lent him the loans where jumping out of windows because they lost their entire lively hood. Now, do we see PAD closing down the airport asking the King of Thailand to step down? of course not.

See the protest of the PAD is a protest of jealousy and greed. It is not becoming of any person or group whom have honor and love of their country, those who Pick and choose matters of self interest over conscious are such ppl the PAD represent. Its not honorable or should it be respected. beerchug.gif


It's over, dude. Give this matter a rest. The future of Thailand is what matters most.

Best regard.






er no, hahahahaha, loser.
Manleow
QUOTE(yokie @ Dec 20 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]4054755[/snapback]
It's over, dude. Give this matter a rest. The future of Thailand is what matters most.

Best regard.
er no, hahahahaha, loser.

lolzzz, retard, the Future of Thailand is what matters, not U anti Democracy monkeys, PAD are not going to stop the voice of the ppl embarassedlaugh.gif The Ppl of Thailand will take back their country beerchug.gif

homo embarassedlaugh.gif
PeaceMan
QUOTE(Manleow @ Dec 14 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]4047134[/snapback]
Well its nice to see that ur not looking so gay as u always seem to be biggthumpup.gif

In terms of Thailand, I hope their democracy will withstand the terror the PAD has caused for that nation.

So there is no hate but love for Thailand, I hope the ppl will be able to voice their opinion and take the power that was given to them by Allah and no one else.

Every person of Power is corrupt in some way or another, some are just more corrupt then others. Minor corruption is usually just overlooked. If u use ur power to gain something otherwise wouldn't of been given to you, that within itself is a form of corruption. If u take anything without paying for it, that is corruption; that is, if ur a person of influence over others in matters of their economic welfare.

let me give u an example, A friend of mine from Thailand sent me an article about the King of Thailand, my distant relative whom I have high respect for. laugh.gif she loves the king and all, but was so surprised by the article, she wanted to share it with me.

The article was summing up a situation of some sorts; btw the King of THailand, his riches and financial institutions. One of the examples of how the King came to become so wealthy was during the Asian economic crisis. The King of THailand used his position of power and nobility to force banks into lending him High risk loans, Loans of which no other financial institution would otherwise be given any other individual. Then the Market crashed, the king bails out of his responsibilities to the banks, and the ppl who lent him the loans where jumping out of windows because they lost their entire lively hood. Now, do we see PAD closing down the airport asking the King of Thailand to step down? of course not.

See the protest of the PAD is a protest of jealousy and greed. It is not becoming of any person or group whom have honor and love of their country, those who Pick and choose matters of self interest over conscious are such ppl the PAD represent. Its not honorable or should it be respected. beerchug.gif

where's the proof of your cheap talk?

U!a distant relative?LOLZZZZZ why ? is it just becoz Somdej Ya mother side came from Veingchan?LOLZZZ I mean, I know we all are related,but your pariticular claim amusing me.lolzzz
Manleow
QUOTE(PeaceMan @ Dec 23 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]4057406[/snapback]
where's the proof of your cheap talk?

U!a distant relative?LOLZZZZZ why ? is it just becoz Somdej Ya mother side came from Veingchan?LOLZZZ I mean, I know we all are related,but your pariticular claim amusing me.lolzzz

lolzzz, dude, look in the mirror and a family photo why dont ya, ur a dirty mutt and ur family are dirty mutts. even ur King of Thailand does not have the bloodline i do.

have u heard that Phetsirat is Rama9th Uncle? somewhere i heard that Prince Phetsirat is his uncle. laugh.gif

dirty mutt, please dont talk to me, ur dirty family make me laugh, embarassedlaugh.gif So No, we are not all related, i dont want ur dirty mutt blood ever mixing with our precious bloodline. embarassedlaugh.gif The blood that flows in my family have the blood of Uthong Ramathidbodi, Souwannapoum dynasty blood, Menghai dynasty blood flowing through our veins u loser, almost every single Lao person with royal blood has the bloodline of Ayutthya and Lanna flowing through their veins.
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