Turk/Mongols both have (or more like HAD) Mongolic skulls, these are tribal divisions which swallowed up and became an ethnic one. Huns are the ancestors all Uralic and Altaic peoples.

Attila returned in 452 to claim his marriage to Honoria anew, invading and ravaging Italy along the way. The city of Venice was founded as a result of these attacks when the residents fled to small islands in the Venetian Lagoon. His army sacked numerous cities and razed Aquileia completely, leaving no trace of it behind. Legend has it he built a castle on top of a hill north of Aquileia to watch the city burn, thus founding the town of Udine, where the castle can still be found. Aëtius, who lacked the strength to offer battle, managed to harass and slow Attila's advance with only a shadow force. Attila finally halted at the River Po. By this point disease may have broken out in Attila's camp, thus helping to stop his invasion.

At the wish of Emperor Valentinian III, Pope Leo I, accompanied by the Consul Avienus and the Prefect Trigetius, met Attila at Mincio in the vicinity of Mantua, and obtained from him the promise that he would withdraw from Italy and negotiate peace with the emperor.[7] Prosper of Aquitaine gives a short, reliable description of the historic meeting. The later anonymous account,[8] a pious "fable which has been represented by the pencil of Raphael and the chisel of Algardi" (as Gibbon called it) says that the Pope, aided by Saint Peter and Saint Paul, convinced him to turn away from the city, promising Attila that in case he leaves in peace, one of his successor will receive a Holy Crown[9]. Priscus reports that superstitious fear of the fate of Alaric—who died shortly after sacking Rome in 410—gave him pause.

Was Attila the Hun a TUrk or a Mongol?

Is Attila over rated? What did he really do?

Now lets see. Attila (406 – 453), he was the leader of the hunnic empire which stretched from Germany to the Ural River and from the River Danube to the Baltic Sea. During his rule he was one of the most fearsome of the Western and Eastern Roman Empires' enemies, he invaded the Balkans twice, he marched through Gaul (modern France) as far as Orleans before being defeated at the Battle of Chalons. He refrained from attacking either Constantinople or Rome.

In much of Western Europe, he is remembered as the epitome of cruelty and rapacity. In contrast, some histories and Chronicles lionize him as a great and noble king. Like Chinghis Khan.

Many experts think they may have been Turkic people, descended from the Xiongnu tribes that menaced China as early as the [ 5TH CENTURY BC ]. however it can be said with general agreement that they may have been a confederation of Central Asian and European tribes.

some peope in europe describe Attila as .

short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head, his eyes were small, his beard thin, and he had a flat nose and tanned skin.

sounds korean.

Was Attila the Hun a TUrk or a Mongol?

Huns were a mixture of Mongols and Turks.

Turk/Mongols both have (or more like HAD) Mongolic skulls, these are tribal divisions which swallowed up and became an ethnic one. Huns are the ancestors all Uralic and Altaic peoples.

I hope this explainiation helps u..

Dear friend .
Asena was a pure mongolian.

^tell me this how many Spanish words & Indian words are the same yet they are still both languages of the Indo-european branch

Nobody places Turks and Mongolians in 1 group anyways

Huns were a mixture of Mongols and Turks.

Aza, I need you on panmongol.

He has to learn how to post! Is it really that difficult? There's like all these members with 0 posts.

There's a glitch it seems though that the activation email doesn't get sent and you can't register again - but I thought they fixed this.

so yeah
I'd like to note that there was no difference of Turk or Mongol just individual Tribes, but after the GTs the Turks start to form their own identity separate from the rest.

Aza, I need you on panmongol.

Subedai .I"ll be there soon.

You"ve said just that turks have mongolian origin.

or mabey Mongols have Turk origin?

Some of mongols -Yes.
Some of turks\mostly turkish khans\-Yes they have mongolian origin.

Here says,that Ashina had mongolian origin. Russian turkolog L.N. Gumilev.U"ll read it on his "Ancient Turks". That is a translation using on line.Not perfect indeed.

Descendants of a she-wolf. The knowledge of family trees and their special studying was long since characteristic for centralasian people . It is Thus rather curious that many of them named the ancestor of this or that animal. So, Mongols - a grey wolf and a fallow deer, Teleuts - too a wolf and the daughter of shan-yu of Huns, and Turks from Huns kings and a she-wolf considered as the ancestors and the Tibetians of the male of a monkey and a female rakshas (wood spirit). Two last legends have arisen very much for a long time, apparently even in dwelling of these people on southern suburb of great desert Gobi as the mythology is somewhat corrected by the facts of political history and etnogenez. Among the tribes won Toba people at conquest by them of northern China, there were "five hundred families Ashina" . These "five hundred families" have arisen "from mixture of different sorts" Shaanxis living in the western part, won in IV century at Chineses Huns and Xianbeys . Ashina submitted to prince Muganju of Huns owning Hesi (area to the West from Ordosa, between a bend of Huang He and Nanshanem). When in 439 Toba people have won Huns and have attached Hesi to empire Vej the prince "Ashina with five hundred families ran to Juan Juan people and, having lodged on a South side of the Altay mountains, extracted iron for Juan juan people" . The text narrates about an origin not all people ancient тurkic, but only their ruling clan. In this version of an origin ancient тurk anything legendary is not present. Apparently, Ashina was the leader of the small team consisting from , for some reason or other not got on in numerous Xianbey"s and Hun"s princedoms. Such small military units which it is impossible to name the states, constantly arose during a rebellious epoch III - V centuries and disappeared, without having left a trace. Chineses named subject khans of Ashina - Tyu-kyu. This word is successfully deciphered by P.Pelo as "the Turk +iuт", i.e." Turks ", but with plural suffix not Turkic, but Mongolian. In old-Turkic language all political terms are made out by the Mongolian plural. It gives the grounds to think that they are introduced in the Turkic language environment from the outside. The word" turk "meaned" strong, strong ". According to A.N.Kononovu, it is a collective name which has turned subsequently to the ethnic name of breeding association. Whichever there was an initial language of this association, by V century when it left on the history arena, to all its representatives interbreeding language of that time - Xianbey was clear, i.e. ancient mongolian. It was language of a command, a market, diplomacy. With this language of Ashina in 439 have passed to northern suburb Gobi. The word" Ashina "meant" a wolf ". On-turkish a wolf - Buri or Kaskir, and on-mongolian Shino or Chino" And "- a respect prefix in the Chinese language. Hence," Ashina "means" a noble wolf ". The word has remained in the Arabian record of this name of Shane . A question on that, it is how much lawful to name khans of Ashina , at a current state of our knowledge cannot be resolved
, but it is clear that the name "wolf" had for VI. huge value. The Chinese authors consider concepts "the Turkic khan" and "wolf" as synonyms, probably leaning against views of Turkic khans. Not casually a queen of Xianbey speaks about the husband, khan Shabolio: "the khan on its properties is a wolf" and in the instruction at an attack on тurks it is told:" That should use a measure: to drive nomadic and to attack wolves . The gold wolf head flaunted on Turkic banners , and, at last, in two legends about an origin of turks the first place belongs to the progenitress-she-wolf . For both a little legends that in them there is no hint on historical event - transition of a horde of Ashina from Gansu is characteristic. Therefore it seems legends have arisen on Altai and, maybe, have been created to prove specially the rights of newcomers to exclusive position. The first legend is curious that she knows about" branches of the house of Hunnu from the Western edge on the West ", i.e. about power Attila. This branch has been absolutely exterminated by neighbours; one nine-year boy to whom enemies have chopped off hands and feet has escaped only, and most have thrown in a bog. There from it the she-wolf has become pregnant. The boy all the same have killed, and the she-wolf has escaped to Altai and there has given birth ten sons. The sort has bred, and "after the lapse of several knees somebody Asjan-she with all tribes left a cave and recognised itself as the vassal of the Juan Juans khan". So, according to this legend, the Altay Turks-tukyu (тurkiut) occur from western Huns, but not directly, and miserely, via a she-wolf, and, if to consider that western Huns have been destroyed about 468, and Turks act as the people already in 545 it would be possible to marvel only to speed of their reproduction and alternation of generations! The second legend deduces тurk from a local sort With and besides she-wolves. All representatives of a sort With, on a legend, were lost "because of own nonsense" (in what it was shown, it is not explained), only four grandsons of a she-wolf have escaped. The first has turned in a swan, the second has lodged between the rivers Abu and Gjan under a name of Tsigu, and the third and the fourth - on the river of Chusi (Chui) in southern Altai. This legend is explained �. And. Aristov who has compared From a legend with it come With at Kumandins - the North Altay tribe on the river of Bie, the first grandson has co-ordinated to a tribe Swan - ku-kizhi, and the second - with Kirgis, living between Abakan (Abu) and Yenisei (Gjan-whom). The grandson of the elder son - Asjanshe of the first legend. Here both of them are closed . Foothills of Mongolian Altai where fugitives have got, have been occupied by the tribes occurring from Huns and speaking in Turkic languages. With these natives combatants of prince Ashina have merged and have allocated with their name "Turks", or "Turkiut". The destiny of this word is so remarkable and important for our theme that it is necessary to give particular attention to this plot. The word "Turks" for 1500 some times changed value

Whatever origin there were those "five hundred families" which have united under a name of Ashina, between themselves they spoke in mongolian until peripetias of military success have not thrown out them from China to Altai. However centenary stay in Ñ‚urkospeaking, certainly, should promote to environment fast change of informal conversation as "five hundred families" of Mongols were a drop in the Turkic sea. Probably that to the middle of VI century and members of a sort of Ashina and their companions were absolutely divided out and have kept traces mongolianspeakness only in Ñ‚itul which have brought with itself. On the basis of the above-stated it is visible that an origin Ñ‚ÑŽÑ€коÑ�зычиÑ� and occurrence of the people which have named "Turks" "Turkiut", - the phenomena absolutely different. The languages nowadays named Turkic, have developed in an extreme antiquity , and the people "Turkiuts" have arisen in the end of V century owing to ethnic mixture in the conditions of a forest-steppe landscape, characteristic for Altai and its foothills. Merge of newcomers to local population has appeared so full that in hundred years, to 546, they represented that integrity which it is accepted to name ancient turkish a nationality or Ñ‚urkiuts.
So turks are our brothers!

WOW Bumin,Istemi,bilge khans are mongols WOW

don't forget sollozo or what the hell it is