[/B]]Hello everyone!

I noticed this forum today, but hopefully not too late. I respect all the discussions regarding my country -MONGOLIA, but disagree some thoughts about the history of Mongolia here. The only thing I want is to be this forum as a real discussion of Mongolian, not Chinese and former Soviet Union. By the way, thanks all of you who shared their opinion here. Now I am writing in Mongolian language to Mongolian members of this forum, so sorry for my inconvenience.

Sain baitsgaana uu Mongol ah duu nar mini. Ene forumiig onoodor l medlee. Ehnees ni mash anhaaraltai unshih yavtsdaa ene forumiig neesen Mongol oxiniig gantsaaraa bichleg hiij baisniig unshaad ih baharhlaa, bas bagagui orovdloo. Bid unendee tsoohuulee gedgee ene ued l mederch baina. Gehdee suul suuldee neleed heden Mongol hun end bichleg hiijee.

End bichleg hiisen hyataduud unendee bidnii tuuhiig, ulamjlaliig, undes ugsaag mini gutaan doromjloh gej mash ih oroldjee. Ter burt tailbar hiisen neg ni baina, hiigeegui neg ni baina. Gehdee ene hyataduud oorsdiin hanzaar gishuunii hayagaa bicheed, ali bolox olon hyatad helts, ug hereglehiig hicheen, Mongol gesen forum-d ali boloh ih bichleg hiij, Mongol bol hyatad l yum shuudee gesen setgegdel forumd orson hun bolgond toruulehuits bolgojee. Hatuuhan helehed buzarlaad hayachih yum. Delhiid huleen zovshoorogdoogui oorsdiin zohioson gazriin zurag, Mongoliig hyatadiin neg heseg gej nomchildog hudal tuuheer tarhia ugaalgasan hyataduud.

Anglid surdag, ene sedviig neesen ohin uul ni forum-d sedev neehdee naiz nohod, busad Mongolchuuddaa medegdsen bol ih heregtei baisan gej bodoj baina. Ooroor helbel Mongolchuud bid ingej olon chonon dund orson azarga shig bish, bolomjooroo ed nartai eh tuuh, ulamjlal soyol, ard tumen, ahui amidral geed olon zuileer eeljen bichleg hiih bolomj baijee. Gevch forum neej, Mongoliinhoo talaar busdiin setgegdel, handlagiig medehiin hicheesen, Mongoloo surtalchlahiig hussen ter oxind mash ih bayarlalaa. Odoo nadad neg sanal baina.

Anh site-d orohod Mongol chat gesen zuil baihgui baigaa biz? Ene yug ilerhiilj baina ve geheer Mongolchuud bidnii tsoohniig l. Mongol chat gesen heseg neej boloh bolov uu? Busad gedegt Mongoliin tuhai geed odoo ene bichleg baina, getel uund hyataduud mash ih yum bichjee. Iimees heduulee niilj biagaad Mongol chat bii bolgood gishuud buhen ehnii eeljind Mongoliin talaar unen zov tuuhiig bichij, hunii asuuh elementar zuiluudiig zurag horog, bolvol bichlegtei ni end tavival Mongol uner unertsen forum boloh bolov uu. Uuniig ehlehees omno heseg hugatsaand dor burnee beltgej baigaad bie bieteigee medeellee soliltsoj, sanalaa huvaaltsaj baigaad shiivel... Mongoliin tuuhiin talaar Hunnu gurnees ehleed l herhen onoogiin Mongol bii bolson talaar bi bichij boloh yum. Zarim gishuud, toriin suld, dalbaa, soyombo zergiig hariutsdag ch yumuu. Zarim ni urlag gedeg talaasaa. Neg zuil zahij helehed ed bidniig buduuleg, urban soyol-gui, yag l tovd shig oilgodog, deerees ni bugd arhichid gej uzdeg tal bii. Iimd iim uruu doroi yum bichihgui baihiig huseh baina. Iim sedveer hun bichleg hiivel hariulah ugtei baih heregtei. USA-d hurtel guilgachid, arhichid, gaj dontnuud, har tamhichid olon shuudee. Ali ch uls, ali ch niigemd muu muuhai zuil bii. Zarim hyataduud oorsdiinhoo bulai tuuhiig Mongoliin tuuh bolgood bichsen baisan ter deer. Nogoo huuhed gargahgui gej horoodog geed l, ene ni hyatadtai l hamaatai zuil. Tegj yarival hyatadiig shuuh yum bol och tochnoon buzar bulai yum bii. Emegtei huuhdiin holiig zoriulaltiin zuileer jijighen bolgochihdog, ter ni yavj chadahgui, booltoi adil boldog geed. Za sedvees halichihlaa, gishuud orshoogoorei.

Magadgui ene forumd ta bugd bichleg hiihee bolison ch baij boloh yumaa. Sanal bodloo bichij baigaarai. Ta bugdiig hundetgesen WhiteWolf.

Wow hey welcome WHITEWOLF maybe you can post some pics of Mongolian Entertainment and Foods? Your brothers and sisters haven't been doing a very good job and I can't find anything on the computer..

http://www.morinhuur.com/multiplay/indexm.asp

MONGOLIAN MUSIC ONLINE!!!!!!!
This is a pretty good site to find some good Mongolian music!
I recommend the band Lhasuren..
BadmaHanda is also good..

You can also get Serchmaa videos and songs...

Hurd, the famous metal band is on there too. The ones that scared the Chinese in InnerMongolia

nice music. I like morinhuur, lots of songs conjure up the image of riding down the steppes of Mongolia on horseback, with the wind in your face, and not giving a rat's @$$ about anything else. Very nice.

Hi. The web address that you wrote (www.morinhuur.com) here was created by Inner Mongolian people, not outer Mongolians, i think. Because the site contains either outer and inner Mongolians songs. Most of the folk songs (urtiin duun) here are not in their real Mongolian version (I mean outer MOngolian version) because inner Mongolian culture is influenced by Chinese culture.
I suggest you guys to access the site www.download.mn and try to listen to morin huur musical performances and modern musics which created by outer Mongolian people. The site is in Mongolian language, so that may have a problem for you. However, if you want to listen to morin huur musical performances, you should click on the icon "BUCAD" at the right side of the menu. Busad means Others in Mongolian language. Then you should click on the 8-9-10 to download the mongolian morin huur music. The author of these musical creatures is Mr. Jantsannorov, 2 times state honored composer. He is very famous in Mongolian culture. I hope this helps you.

PS: I don't have any good pics about Mongolian culture and foods right now, but I will post you when I get it. I only have some pics of wild nature in Mongolia.

I agree with WHITEWOLF. This site is created by Inner Mongolians but not Independent Mongolia. Just see the picture of HipHop (It was shown in Modern Mongolian writting wich means Lumino in Beijing). Lumino is the Mongolian famous HipHop group.
By the way, I have some really nice pictures about our country. But I don't know how to post it. Somebody please help.

Most things from I see from Mongolia and from the nomads, and its always inside one of their huts, riding horses, or the type of wrestling they do. Their cities seem barren or not as developed as East Asian countries. But I know even less about Inner Mongolia, is it better than Mongolia in terms of having metropolitan cities?

BUMP! We need to keep a Mongolia thread going! Cmon comrades, we have to stay active if we want our own forum section....

welPx hey =]. i like this mongolian guy. It's hard to speak to him cuz i don't know him and he aint good at english also ='( I wished i know how to speak mogolian. xP well anyone teach a phase or 2? 2

sure hon. )

u can come to me and let me teach u everything u need to know. D

POST FOOD, MODEL CELEBRITY..

2 models from germany i think.






(stole it from mongolduu.com)






i'll find pics of food

Thank you my friend

Yeah, we need more pictures of Mongol girls here!!!!

IM mostly Filipino and Mongolian from my dad's side but yet i dont know much about Mongolian costoms accept for maybe Historical facts..

Koreans fake lying nation?? LMAO

What about your great mongolian empire? Its pretty amazing you have the internet isnt it , i wonder where you get it from???

I HAVE BEEN THERE A FEW TIMES AND I LOVE MONGOLIANS

hey man easy look at this i think he,s not mongolian or he loves Mongolia i dont know Dont worry be happy we dopnt think korean ppl are fake
First of all u dont have to say some $hits to Mongolian history ok so easy
Peace we love ya all

what about our great mongol empire? we were pwning koreans back in the day?


& for ur info, mongolia had internet a decade ago, got first connected from UUNET (worldcom/MCI) via satellite, so that means we got it from america..

any other questions?

ever eat a camel?

as matter of fact, i have.

not that i would taste camel meat again,

fyi it doesnt taste good.

mgl_style owns those models

Hey end Mongol hun baihgui yumuudaa nadaa hani bolichih gants ch gsn mongol hun baimaardaa baina u?

энд байгаад л байшт.

Neg heseg baihgui l sban shtee lag gomdson he he
hey zaluu mini tegeed saihan oodrog ain ene ulsuud unendee manai eh ornii talaar a ch alga

hi chamaas oor mongol hun neg ih ordoggui yum shig baina daa.Oor hun baigaa bolow uu?Yu gej bodoj sanaj baina da

Hey ya be good ma man lil am .....raaaa

So right, where's is she? I miss her.

may be she has a boyfriend and ..............lolz

Hi all.

A question for the Mongolians and the korean: Do Mongolians look up to Koreans?

cuz my korean friend told me his dad went to mongolia for a business deal and the Mongolians learnt korean in schools and think of Korea as a role model for their country.

This leads on to another question: are Mongolians truly related to Koreans?
cuz from the pics of mongolians i ve seen they seem very similar to many koreans.

pics of mongols,judge it by your self,not something your friend told you.i used to live in china,i can say that,mongolians don't look like koreans













president of mongolia








the best role model for outer mongolia would be China,since china and outer mongolia bordering eachother and most of all,outer mongolia was once a commie state. taking korean as a role model just doesn't work for such a backward country .


China, Mongolia upgrade cooperative relations
( 2003-06-05 08:24) (1)



China and Mongolia Wednesday upgraded their relations as they looked forward to co-operating more in the future.

The strengthened partnership was announced during a meeting between visiting Chinese President Hu Jintao and his Mongolian counterpart Nachagyn Bagabandy.

"China and Mongolia will respect, understand, support and trust each other and be good neighbours, friends and partners for generations,'' said Hu, when meeting the press after the talks which he described as "frank and in-depth.''

He added that the nation is ready to actively develop relations with its neighbours.

Under the new relationship, the two countries will develop political trust, respect each other's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity and development paths, and resolve differences through consultation.

They will expand economic ties and cultural, scientific and personnel exchanges.

China and Mongolia will also maintain peace along their 4,676-kilometre border and work together on regional and international issues.

Bilateral relations have developed greatly since 1994 when the two countries renewed an earlier treaty pledging friendship and co-operation.

China is now the largest investor in and trade partner of Mongolia, accounting for nearly 40 per cent of the foreign capital flowing into the country and more than 40 per cent of its trade volume. Still, both leaders believe that there is room for better economic ties.

According to Bagabandy, future co-operation will focus on infrastructure construction and mining of Mongolia's natural resources.

"The leaders of the two countries have agreed that they will stage large-scale projects that, on the one hand, will push forward the development of Mongolia and will contribute to China's economy on the other hand,'' said Bagabandy.

In its latest effort to foster closer economic ties, China has decided to provide US$300 million in loans on favourable terms to Mongolia for the construction of major mining and infrastructure construction projects.

Hu arrived in the Mongolian capital Ulan Bator for a State visit yesterday afternoon. He is scheduled to meet Mongolian parliamentary speaker S. Tomor-Ochir and Prime Minister Nambar Enkhbayar today before leaving for Beijing.

"This trip has continued the momentum for frequent contacts and the tradition of exchanges of visits,'' said Bagabandy. "The visit has also raised new goals for the development of bilateral relations.''

@Katamari Damacy:

u may have a point...but some of the pics u posted looked to me as if they were turkic-mongols, not what we would term a proper mongolian, like mgl_style. that grinning old man with the hat looks like he has gray eyes.

anyway...heres smthg for u to chew on...

"Geography and political ties aside, what puts Mongolia in a unique position to press North Korea are the "unique ties of blood" between Mongolians and Koreans, said Baabar, who is also a well-known historian here. Ethnically, Koreans and Mongolians belong to the Altaic language family. Many Korean clans are believed to have come from eastern Mongolia."


source: http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/arti...e_of_influence/

check it out urself

didnt it all ne asians came from the mongols?

there isnt any points in saying koreans came from the mongols since almost all asians came from the mongols. infact mongols didn't always lived in mongolia grass land. they came from some woodland near amur river(in present day,heilongjiang,ne china)

btw: thoes pics arent turkic mongols,i just typed mongolians, and thoes are the results). the turkics are a cacusoid race,as you can see it central asia.

Mongolia not that backward. Nomadic herdsmen have tv hooked up to satellite systems. Mongolia needs to find other nations who are interested in investing. Its bad to just have one nation control 40% of your trade. Being landlocked doesnt help. They need to have free trade zones at seaports in China and Russia but under there control. Need to get permission to use rail lines (no charge if possible) in China and Russia to get to the ports. Since there pop. is 2, 700,000 (they can be overrunned by there neighbors who have much bigger pop..) they need to get along with there neighbors but should play one neighbor against another if the situations warrants it.

i love the history of mongol..ghengis khan the best leader of all time

Greatings to all! I am Erdene from Mongolia, studying in Malaysia. I always surf in internet for information about people thoughts of Mongolia. Many Many Thanks to Mgl_Style for opened this topic. I will try to get interesting information about Mongolia. Oh btw, there is a movie coming out next year and the name called "MONGOL". You guys should watch it when it comes out thou, I think it will do some good.

Hello erdene. Found out Mongolia has access to river systems which go into the Amur river where small ships can navigate. Should try to have conversations with your neighbors on making those river systems international waterways (like the Paraguay/Parana rivers international waterway). That way will have access to sea which is cheaper than rail.

For all the people who are interested, "The Story of the Weeping Camel" is a very good movie. It was nominated at the oscars last year and imho should've won - It's a movie about family of herdsmen in Gobi desert. You can go rent it at blockbuster, a must see!

I hope she's an innie.. the girls that are outtie.. well bleh.. I dont like loose meat.

she's an "outtie", unfortunately.

u could've recognized it from all the "loose meat"

I love mongolian history.It was very great country but not anymore.This days mongolians drink too much.They think about only alcohol.Other than that i love mongolian history.By the way im from Tashkent. 2

so you are from xinjiang

To all of Mongolian Ancestry:

I am well aware of that fact that Mongolia is Mongolia. However, I have visited Urumqi recently and have realized the "Chinese" today is a polictical term and less of a ethnic term. Han would be more apppropriate. Therefore some "Mongolians" are "Chinese" while others are not. This is not to negate your proud heritage, it's just a geopolitical reality.

Your ancestors not only conquer China but most of the known civilized world during its heyday. Alexander the Great had great press but he didn't come close to conquering the "known world". As far as I know, the Mongolian people came closer than anyone else in that regard.

As for the Monglian/Han (Chinese) relationship, it is strained now. China can recite the exploits of Ghengis and Kublai (who were great warriors but also huge Aseholes), and Mongolians can rightfully say that they are oppressed by the Hans today. But we have more in common than differences. I have been to Russia and they are a very racist society at this time. If Mongolians are assimilated to Russian society, they will be treated far worse than the Hans are treating them now. In addtion, while I am proud to be an American, this is still a racist society even though it is one of the more tolerant nations of the world. China is also a racist society but at least the Mongolians are very close in physical appearance to the Han and racism and bigotry has a shorter half life when people share similar appearancea. The grass is not always greener on the other side.

Haven't said that, I really want to visit Mongolia. Hopefully I can visit (or dare I even hope) stay with a nomadic family and see how they live. Any suggestions on how I can do that???

I know that the "average" Mongolian would not be fond of a Han hanging out with them but who knows, maybe we can close the gap between us one person at a time. I would go to Russia again and I KNOW they hate me. They don't like Americans or Asians and I am both.

Hey ILSANDER!!! Thanks for the info that you mentioned about Mongolia has River access to Amur river. Actually, I did not know about it, hehe. Thank you.
Hey House!!!
It is very great of you you have jouned our Mongolian chat and left your thoughts. I apreciate for what you typed here. So, I geuss you are Chinese-American, huh? For your info, Mongolians don't like to hear their ancestors called "AssHoles". I don't know what every one thinks but I consider him as a succesful Businessman, . He istablished Silver Road and the Land of Mongol Empire was Free-Trade-Zone. That is how Europe and Asia knew each other.

Let's look at funny way, think about there was no war... and the population of earth could be a large number by today. Cause, since there was no war no one could have died of war, right? Maybe we could have used all the resource of earth and we could facing with HUNGER!!! by now.( Who knows, maybe eating each other!) I think every war has its reason and it tries to balance the population and the resource. I don't give wrong to any War Lords, cause they did their purpose of being human.

I don't know why you call them "a**holes", House? What do you think about my opinion?

Hello there,
I am from outer Mongolia. I'd love to talk and read about my country.

About nomadic life...I actually adore them in someway. They are the one of most purest minded(i mean..simple life, no stress, no complications)people, very hard working, extremely close to nature and thier animals. How about their 100% independent, self supplied life...nomadic family live together(very family oriented) and work for themselves.
House, maybe you need to contact with one of the travel agencies in Mongolia. Nomadic people r very hospitable so u shouldn't worry too much.

whats up

hey xinjiang ren

I feel the same way. Really admire those people. Don't get me wrong, I love Los Angeles and modern life has alot to offer but I also realize that they have other things that I envy. I actually got a name of a Mongolian guide from a really cool white dude I met in Kashgar, China. I will probably email him but I'm just trying to do my homework before I get there in July.

The Mongolian chat should be a subforum to Chinese chat.

^ No It should be left alone with their Independence