Hmong fellows, I have to give you guys credit for being so sucessfully in the States. Of all the latest Asian group came here, beside the Vietnamese, you guys are up there.

As a Tech Recruiter, I see many Hmong Engineers along with my vietnamese counterpart but I don't Lao or Khmer or cambodia software Engineers.

Is there a reason why?

That's because Hmong are hard workers.

You know.. being an engineer isn't the only form of success :P

Besides, what is the percentage of Hmong population compared to other groups? I think that Hmong are more visible because there are more Hmong people around. Of course.. it could also be where you are located. Besides that, I do believe that there are many Hmong individuals who are "successful".

You probably live in a city where there isnt a large population of Lao or Khmer....have you been looking around in different cities other than your own?

I heard that Hmong were quite successful in politics too because they had some members in the House of Representative

does vietnamese people still hunt and kill hmongs to this day like in youtube videos huh? If i was hmong i don't think i would take vietnamese compliments, but on the other hand i'm not hmong but we do have you guys in our country. we treat you guys well like one of us. just looking out for good people

somebody loves to flame with Vietnamese whenever they go

answer the question since you are vietnamese, are you good vietnamese or bad one, have you seen the vidoes in you tube how your people still hunt for them when the war is over a long time ago? do you think its right to treat other human being like that because you out power them, come on we are all human being. Please answer the question if you care enough for the life of human being?

sorry i don't flame $hit on anybody, i chat in vietnam chat yesterday and for some reason you guys get all b!tchy at mano. So how many guys on vietnam chat like your photo? becareful princesssss, you want good man not nerdy one

Hmongs in Vietnam are treated well. Anyone can take trip to Vietnam to verify this. We have radio channels where Hmong language are spoken, we have institutions to study and promote Hmong cultures and all that.

This is an excerpt from a show on VTV (the national channel of Vietnam) about Hmong people and Hmong culture. Vietnamese people make lots of documentaries about minorities in their country with the purpose to help Viet/Kinh population have a better understand of their "đồng bào" (đồng bào is a word Viet people used to call their countrymen).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r0Q7W7TafI0

I hope Hmong members here enjoy the video (even though you don't understand the Viet language spoken by the narrator)

so where does all these video on you tube about vietnamese soldiers still hunt for hmongs in the jungle till this day, are you say its propaganda? but the things is the reporter for the story is a white person

please answer the bold question to your best and right of knowledge, you seem to know a lots so please be truthful because you can only get respected by doing the right thing.

I've already answered. The last thing we want here is to let a Khmer incite a flame between Hmong people and Viet people. Viet and Hmong historically had no grudge toward each other. Let's not let some outsider incite a war between us.

you can't even keep a straight face and answer the question, what do you have to hide? i'm an outsider? so are you but i'm a good one because i will work for the UN. so typical, dodging the question you don't want to answer,

mano, can u please leave her alone? just let her talk, AF is the only place where she can "socialize" with other ppl

judging from her post history, she must not get out much....LOL, she's on 24/7....

To be fair, I think all Asians are hard workers.

Hmong people in Vietnam only live well if they are not Christians. There are countless articles on the internet about the Vietnamese government's persecution of Hmong Christians.

Vietnam Steps up Persecution of Hmong Christians
Vietnamese Christians flee for their lives
Persecution in Vietnam
Vietnam Blacklisted as One of the Worst Violators of Religious Rights

that's a common propaganda from the losers of the Vietnam War ~ I lived in Vietnam for 13 years and had several Christian friends but they all were free to practice their religion, free to go to church etc. They faced no problem at all. Then I came to the usa and read newspaper from the VNCH (aka loyalists of Southern Vietnamese govt before 1975), they depicted the life of people in Vietnam like the life of people living in hell (violation of human rights blah blah blah) ~ Heck I lived in Vietnam for 13 years and I saw no such thing, and fyi my family was also a VNCH family but I faced no persecution or whatsoever.

I went to school with Hmong, Chinese, Cambodian, Viet, Filipino, and a few Indian kids. While all of them worked hard, it seemed the Hmong went the extra mile to succeed. In fact, the top student and senior class president was Hmong. So were half the valedictorians. They were also the group who received the most scholarships from big California universities. I don't think you want to argue, and neither do I; I'm only telling you what I've seen in school.

Why are so many minorities like the Montegnard and such are treated badly in Vietnam? Many montegnard have fled to Cambodia because of your communist government.

The Hmong group that are being killed is from Laos not Vietnam.

Cool. Hi 5!

Hmong people seem to be pushed extremely hard, especially since their parents had it hard. As for the thread starter, mr. troll, engineering is the field where most Khmers enter. Not all asians do nails.

^pffft. there are also lazy and average hmongs. i can also 'attest' from my experience in school.

Agreed lol.. Like my POS brothers, lazy as fu-k 26 and 24, umemployed and living with my parents..... Never even went to college, stupid fu-ks.

LOL, Stop embarrassing yourself in front of the Hmong. Engineering? Oh you mean Food Transport Engineering like bring food to customers at the table in restaurant?

Guys and gal,

I recruit IT Professional nationwide. So geographically, it does not matter. I did not meant to hurt any one feeling. If this will make you feel better, my wife is Laos and I have a best friend and his wife is cambodia.

I am a good Vietnamse living in the States. No ill meaning to anyone, I used to have ton of hmong, Cambodia friends in CA.

Have you people visit SAPA, Vietnam....where ton of Hmongs live in a peaceful enviroment.

Anyway, too much fighting here, let close the treat. Too many children in here.

Software engineering and IT stuff isn't really our thing. Lao and Cambodian people usually open up their own businesses, or open up restaurants and etc. but for the Hmong engineering guys pounding away on that keyboard on those hard nights, I salute you and your success.

<--------- is an electrical/electronics/computer engineer oh, and an electrician xP. I'm a state certified Journeyman Licensed Electrician, I'm really an electrical engineer as I have a BA in it, but, I just have special schooling in the electronics and computer engineering field also.

Which one in these picture are you, XigonCongchua?

I went to a conference quite a few years ago and one of the speakers compare pretty much; Combodian, Hmong, Laotion, Mein, and Vietnamese; on their success rate in the u.s. Vietnamese are higher than the Hmong and Combodians are slightly over the Hmong, but Laotian and Mein are behind.

I don't know if besides Engineering, I wonder what the status of Hmong would be?

They would probably be working in a chinese or thai resturant,or openning up one..

Don't feel bad, Laotian aren't bad either. They just open a Lao bank couple years ago. AT first it was only a few millions. Now it climb up to 70 millions. There are more Hmong in the U.S but we haven't accomplished what the Laotion did.

I think the reason for this is because our parents push us to do whatever we can. Especially succeeding in school. Our parents don't want us to have the hard and difficult life that they have encountered before they entered the United States. We Hmong students and people push hard because it hurts when our parents have to work 24 hours to try to support us and give us the better life that they never recieved. We just want to do good and get the best job because we want to pay them back for everything they have done.

None I'm just promoting the beauty of "classic Vietnamese look".

I'm kinda tired of the Korean/Japanese style that many Viet youths put on today.

yeah i agree, that's what my parents tell me everytime, or almost everytime i come back to visit from college LOL but it's true, my parents did push me hard, and i had to get all A's and stuff in school...it sucked at those times, but now i'm grateful for their "fierce" motivation
my parents pushed my siblings and i hard and concentrated on getting the best schools for us. so now my two older brothers both have degrees, one in mechanical engineering and the other in electrical engineering...as for me, i'm a biochemistry major and pre-pharmacy...

I wish my parents were like that.

---> Have you been there or only listening others said ? There are thousand of foreigners coming to Viet Nam, come to Montegnard and everywhere without restriction that mean no one treated badly in Vietnam . Many montegnard have fled to Cambodia because they are lazy, they don't want to work but they want to have alot of money .
Let talk what you see , don't talk again what you overhear

I've seen the opposite. Many drop out of college. They get married very young. They have kids at a very young age. I'm not saying all Hmong, but I must admit it happens very often. Even my Hmong friends say that.

I have seen the same situations. But that is a case by case basis. But it also coincides with the utmost traditional families. Being it the female marries very young.

But the majority are extremely hard workers. I have been lucky to have experienced not just Hmong, but also Japanese, Chinese and Korean cultures. A few things I can point out about just all of these are this. They have dedication to excellence. All portray a very strong work ethic. And believe it or not Asians in general still have one trait that still stands out in this chaotic world. Do you know what that would be? I would call it Honor.

fu-k all your viet fu-kers.

I dont care if your a nice guy or a bad guy, i hate viet people period. you have no idea what you did to our people back in the days. You raped, killed and murdered woman and children. you burned our villages and tortured our people.








dont let some nice viet fu-ker come in here and say nice things about us, he is viet, red enemy. dont forget about all your family who died because of them. who were unarmed. all the brother and sisters who died during the migration to laos and thailand. all the slaughter.

Not all men are good no matter what race you maybe. If you want to blame, blame the system. It is true that such inciendent happened but you can't hold every vietnamese accountable for it. Besides, it happens in Laos so if you blame you have to blame the LPDR for it. You can't blame the Viet.

For instance, if you hire a contractor to build you a house. The contract hire someone else to do the job. You can't blame the other guy for doing a bad job. You have to blame your contractor for allowing such incident to happen.

Ok...
I never said Asians don't dedicate themselves to excellence, portray strong work ethic. I never even said they weren't hard workers. You're not getting the point. I am talking about some Hmong in response to someone else's post. S/he said that Hmong go the 'extra mile to succeed' than other hardworking Asian ethnicities. I wanted to point out that there is the other side of Hmong that occurs frequently. Haha.