Full Version: hmong gene tree
this is old news but has anyone tried one of those programs were they can trace your ancestors to where they came from using your dna? this can clear up this whole issue of where we came from. lets have abc news do a study and find out? bring a collective group of hmong together and find out where they came from? am pretty it will go back to a certain group of northern chinese/miao groups but if it turns out that we're Mongolian than hey what do you know? haha
i don't think its wise to trust those websites that ask you to send in some cheek cell samples and they'll analyse your dna and heritage for free. they're probably scam sites that try to get your information and then just tell you what you want to hear, like you're descended from the great genghis khan or something like that
QUOTE(dude543 @ Jul 17 2008, 09:14 PM) 
i don't think its wise to trust those websites that ask you to send in some cheek cell samples and they'll analyse your dna and heritage for free. they're probably scam sites that try to get your information and then just tell you what you want to hear, like you're descended from the great genghis khan or something like that
LOL
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QUOTE(dude543 @ Jul 17 2008, 11:14 PM)
i don't think its wise to trust those websites that ask you to send in some cheek cell samples and they'll analyse your dna and heritage for free. they're probably scam sites that try to get your information and then just tell you what you want to hear, like you're descended from the great genghis khan or something like that
+LOL
DNA reveals EVERYTHING. Where people came from, who they are related to, everything. I remember reading a DNA study on the ethnic minorities of South and Southwest China, and all of those ethnic groups were pure blooded 100% Mongoloid, with exception of the Hui (Chinese Muslims whom had 5-10% West Asian DNA). I remember reading Miao's were genetically related to the Yao people (Mien). No Nordic Caucasoid blood in the Miao at all. So take that white caucasian wannabe theory somewhere else, cause everyone on Asiafinest, and the whole world is just laughing at you people. Be proud of who you are. Miaos have a long rich history and a beautiful culture.
As far as Mongolians are concerned, there have been numerous studies of descendants of Genghis Khan, and his descendants carry the "Y Chromosome" that ranges from China all the way to England. Miao's of China do not have that Y Chromosome. The highest concentration and population of the "Y Chromosome" outside of Mongolia is found among the HAZARA TRIBE OF AFGHANISTAN. Just because you guys had a Miao princess named "Mao Gai Lia" does not mean you are from Mongolia
And also Tat-C is the Chromosome of the Ancient Mongolians, Xiongnu, and Siberian people such as the Yakut. And believe it or not Tat-C has been found among the Sami(Mongolic looking people) of Northern Finland, Miaos did not even have the Tat-C chromosome in their DNA!!!! Which means Miaos are not descendants of these people.
Mongolians dont even refer to themselves as Mongolians. Mongolia is an English word. They refer to themselves by their tribe name such as Sartul's, Oirat's Khalka's, etc. All those tribes speak their own dialect of the Mongolian language.
So to wrap it up, the blonde or other light colored hair the Miao possesses does not stem from ancient caucasoid ancestry, as DNA proved that Miaos do not have any!!!! As I stated earlier, Pacific Islanders such as Samoans, and Tongans also have the same colored hair as the Miao. Australian aboriginees also have blonde hair. Scientist to this day still do not have a concrete theory on why these peoples hair are blonde, but one thing that is concrete is that all Polynesians are descendants of Southeast Asians and Southern Chinese.
Be proud of who you are. No need to go claiming relations to other ethnic groups without any evidence. It only makes you people look ignorant.
As far as Mongolians are concerned, there have been numerous studies of descendants of Genghis Khan, and his descendants carry the "Y Chromosome" that ranges from China all the way to England. Miao's of China do not have that Y Chromosome. The highest concentration and population of the "Y Chromosome" outside of Mongolia is found among the HAZARA TRIBE OF AFGHANISTAN. Just because you guys had a Miao princess named "Mao Gai Lia" does not mean you are from Mongolia
And also Tat-C is the Chromosome of the Ancient Mongolians, Xiongnu, and Siberian people such as the Yakut. And believe it or not Tat-C has been found among the Sami(Mongolic looking people) of Northern Finland, Miaos did not even have the Tat-C chromosome in their DNA!!!! Which means Miaos are not descendants of these people.Mongolians dont even refer to themselves as Mongolians. Mongolia is an English word. They refer to themselves by their tribe name such as Sartul's, Oirat's Khalka's, etc. All those tribes speak their own dialect of the Mongolian language.
So to wrap it up, the blonde or other light colored hair the Miao possesses does not stem from ancient caucasoid ancestry, as DNA proved that Miaos do not have any!!!! As I stated earlier, Pacific Islanders such as Samoans, and Tongans also have the same colored hair as the Miao. Australian aboriginees also have blonde hair. Scientist to this day still do not have a concrete theory on why these peoples hair are blonde, but one thing that is concrete is that all Polynesians are descendants of Southeast Asians and Southern Chinese.
Be proud of who you are. No need to go claiming relations to other ethnic groups without any evidence. It only makes you people look ignorant.
i'm one of the hmong who is born with red/brown hair and am proud of being hmong. whether i have caucasian ancestors or not, i will still be proud of being hmong. i really don't care if people are laughing at me for claiming any particular race as an ancestor...really there is no need to write a long post about this issue... 
. also at the current time, i really have no idea why we have the non-black hair and stuff...all i'm attributing it to is a recessive gene and/or mutation in the gene.
i would also like to know how far we can trace our history back to with dna.
. also at the current time, i really have no idea why we have the non-black hair and stuff...all i'm attributing it to is a recessive gene and/or mutation in the gene.i would also like to know how far we can trace our history back to with dna.
QUOTE(vanggirlie @ Aug 2 2008, 10:19 PM)
i'm one of the hmong who is born with red/brown hair and am proud of being hmong. whether i have caucasian ancestors or not, i will still be proud of being hmong. i really don't care if people are laughing at me for claiming any particular race as an ancestor...really there is no need to write a long post about this issue... . also at the current time, i really have no idea why we have the non-black hair and stuff...all i'm attributing it to is a recessive gene and/or mutation in the gene.
i would also like to know how far we can trace our history back to with dna.
. also at the current time, i really have no idea why we have the non-black hair and stuff...all i'm attributing it to is a recessive gene and/or mutation in the gene.i would also like to know how far we can trace our history back to with dna.
It would be great if you could post pics as proof. If you're shy, you can just shop your face out or something lol.
QUOTE(TooLate2Apologize @ Jul 18 2008, 12:27 AM)
DNA reveals EVERYTHING. Where people came from, who they are related to, everything. I remember reading a DNA study on the ethnic minorities of South and Southwest China, and all of those ethnic groups were pure blooded 100% Mongoloid, with exception of the Hui (Chinese Muslims whom had 5-10% West Asian DNA). I remember reading Miao's were genetically related to the Yao people (Mien). No Nordic Caucasoid blood in the Miao at all. So take that white caucasian wannabe theory somewhere else, cause everyone on Asiafinest, and the whole world is just laughing at you people. Be proud of who you are. Miaos have a long rich history and a beautiful culture.
As far as Mongolians are concerned, there have been numerous studies of descendants of Genghis Khan, and his descendants carry the "Y Chromosome" that ranges from China all the way to England. Miao's of China do not have that Y Chromosome. The highest concentration and population of the "Y Chromosome" outside of Mongolia is found among the HAZARA TRIBE OF AFGHANISTAN. Just because you guys had a Miao princess named "Mao Gai Lia" does not mean you are from Mongolia And also Tat-C is the Chromosome of the Ancient Mongolians, Xiongnu, and Siberian people such as the Yakut. And believe it or not Tat-C has been found among the Sami(Mongolic looking people) of Northern Finland, Miaos did not even have the Tat-C chromosome in their DNA!!!! Which means Miaos are not descendants of these people.
Mongolians dont even refer to themselves as Mongolians. Mongolia is an English word. They refer to themselves by their tribe name such as Sartul's, Oirat's Khalka's, etc. All those tribes speak their own dialect of the Mongolian language.
So to wrap it up, the blonde or other light colored hair the Miao possesses does not stem from ancient caucasoid ancestry, as DNA proved that Miaos do not have any!!!! As I stated earlier, Pacific Islanders such as Samoans, and Tongans also have the same colored hair as the Miao. Australian aboriginees also have blonde hair. Scientist to this day still do not have a concrete theory on why these peoples hair are blonde, but one thing that is concrete is that all Polynesians are descendants of Southeast Asians and Southern Chinese.
Be proud of who you are. No need to go claiming relations to other ethnic groups without any evidence. It only makes you people look ignorant.
As far as Mongolians are concerned, there have been numerous studies of descendants of Genghis Khan, and his descendants carry the "Y Chromosome" that ranges from China all the way to England. Miao's of China do not have that Y Chromosome. The highest concentration and population of the "Y Chromosome" outside of Mongolia is found among the HAZARA TRIBE OF AFGHANISTAN. Just because you guys had a Miao princess named "Mao Gai Lia" does not mean you are from Mongolia
And also Tat-C is the Chromosome of the Ancient Mongolians, Xiongnu, and Siberian people such as the Yakut. And believe it or not Tat-C has been found among the Sami(Mongolic looking people) of Northern Finland, Miaos did not even have the Tat-C chromosome in their DNA!!!! Which means Miaos are not descendants of these people.Mongolians dont even refer to themselves as Mongolians. Mongolia is an English word. They refer to themselves by their tribe name such as Sartul's, Oirat's Khalka's, etc. All those tribes speak their own dialect of the Mongolian language.
So to wrap it up, the blonde or other light colored hair the Miao possesses does not stem from ancient caucasoid ancestry, as DNA proved that Miaos do not have any!!!! As I stated earlier, Pacific Islanders such as Samoans, and Tongans also have the same colored hair as the Miao. Australian aboriginees also have blonde hair. Scientist to this day still do not have a concrete theory on why these peoples hair are blonde, but one thing that is concrete is that all Polynesians are descendants of Southeast Asians and Southern Chinese.
Be proud of who you are. No need to go claiming relations to other ethnic groups without any evidence. It only makes you people look ignorant.
Amen.
QUOTE(JakeCutter @ Aug 3 2008, 01:31 AM)
It would be great if you could post pics as proof. If you're shy, you can just shop your face out or something lol.
i won't post my pics up but you guys probably seen hmong people with the red/blond hair i'm sure. we have the asian face but just different coloring (hair and sometimes skin).
QUOTE(vanggirlie @ Sep 5 2008, 01:54 AM)
i won't post my pics up but you guys probably seen hmong people with the red/blond hair i'm sure. we have the asian face but just different coloring (hair and sometimes skin).
I think that's hot.
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