Nguyễn is an ancient musical instrument
Nguyên means "spring" or "source"
my surname, Khổng, means "opening" or "hole"

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Ok, let me make it clear. Without accent marks, Hồ and Hổ look the same. So I agree with you on this.
But, look. With accent marks as it's supposed to be, Hồ and Hổ are different words.

i think all vietnamese should change their last name to Ly

I like Ly actually. If it wasn't for Tran Thu Do changing all the Ly to Nguyen, I'd be Ly Thanh Chuong now... sounds like a Chinese warrior eh?

nah dude.. vietnamese ... chinese would be li thang cheung or whatever(can't translate)

I like Ly actually. If it wasn't for Tran Thu Do changing all the Ly to Nguyen, I'd be Ly Thanh Chuong now... sounds like a Chinese warrior eh?

So your ancestors are Lý?

It'd be Li Tcheng Cheng.

LOL yes. 1/3 of Viets are Nguyen anyway so that's nothing surprising. But I would prefer Nguyen over Ly because Ly is a very common southern Chinese surname (Li is the north's variation).

Cool, mine is Lai... wierd one eh??

Actually it's quite common where I'm at. Got a Chinese friend who is a Lai and a Taiwanese one who's a Lay.

If you read Vietnamese history, the Nguyen surname came into existence because when the Tran took over the Ly Dynasty, Tran Thu Do forced all Viets with Ly as surname to change it to Nguyen. He purged all Ly royals, including the last Ly emperor.

The stories goes that when the last Ly Emperor was deposed, he became a monk in a monastery. One day when he was weeding the grass in the courtyard when Tran Thu Do walked into the courtyard and said that if he is to weed grass, he must do it cleanly and exterminate it to the roots (implying that the Ly Dynasty must be wiped completely). The Ly Emperor said he knows what Tran Thu Do was talking about and walked away. That afternoon he hanged himself.

Sorry I'm at uni so could not tell you the exact date and name of the Emperor.

I like Ly actually. If it wasn't for Tran Thu Do changing all the Ly to Nguyen, I'd be Ly Thanh Chuong now... sounds like a Chinese warrior eh?

Why would you even want to be Chinese??

It not about being Chinese, it's about having a cool name. LOL never mind

Shut up qouc you do have Chinese blood you know... don''t deny it... You can have chinese blood and still love VN :genius:

Dude I'm not denying my Chinese blood. I'm just correcting this guy, who's putting my meaning out of context.

Ok cool, Ilove both sides of my blood... more than any other sides

I'm saying that we should just all be proud to be viet. That's all.

From what i know, there are a lot of Nguyen because when the Tran dynasty took power, they forced people with the last name Ly to change it to Nguyen. This is only one reason. There are several more but I can't recall now.

Both my parents were "Ha"s. So that makes me a full blooded "Ha."

It sucks to have that last name though.

Sometimes people would always laugh HAHAHAHA.

Other times I'd be at an office or on the phone and the receptionist would ask me for my last name and then I'd have to spell it. So then I say...."H"........."A"...... Then the receptionist would ask, "Is that it?" b/c they're expecting a longer last name. Then I'd have to say "um...yeah" . How irritating. Other people don't have to deal with that. It so annoying cuz it happens ALL the time.


Why couldn't I have been born a Nguyen or Tran?

Please post all Vietnamese last name you know!

At that time, Nguyen was already a most common name in the Viet society. As I happen to have written it in another post about a week ago, all the remaining Ly decide to flee outside Thang Long, some to Thai Nguyen and most to Hung Yen, and they change their name to Nguyen.

Are Two people with the surname Nguyen allowed to marry one another??

Only very very few went to the South in 1954... And they are all Bắc Kỳ. No one has yet married a Nam Kỳ. Some are in San Jose, CA.

Those are the educated or rich one ^^

You will find most of Viet + Viet from Chinese origin surnames here

http://www.datviet.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-39243.html

hehehe mẹ bị lộ zrồi, anh Johannjs qúa đáng (đôi thùa )

Of course, "cách 3 đời" is the rule (in all Việt Nam).

You mean 3 generations???

rankink (vai vế).

what does this mean??

Oh, I meant to say RANKING in the family.

Vai vế = ranking. position. sort of "where the person sits"!

Vai = on shoulder (person above you; parents)

Vế = on thigh (person under you; children)

Ok Kool thanks...

Are Viet surnames common or kind of related to surnames of any other asian countries?

Are Viet surnames common or kind of related to surnames of any other asian countries?