Every Lao knows its a matter of time that Laos will prosper when all Lao around the world unite with the people in Laos . When we build our homeland should we not allow Issan and Lanna to share our prosperity and fruitfull economy ? What do you guys think . IF Laos has only 6 to 7 million people and the Lao around the world are only alittle above 1 million , would it be better for us to enjoy the vast land and resource to ourselves ?

Should we keep out the Lao on the right band (west bank ) of the mekong river or should we share the wealth , struggle , and knowledge with only the Lao of the east band (Left bank) since the Lao on the west bank did not contribute anything to help us prosper ? Should we keep them out since the since most of the lao are in Thailand and keep a small population for ourselves ?

What do you guys think ?

Current Laos is the best.

Laos dont need for more population.

Cause Laos now has the largest lands per capita in SE Asia.

That means more place to grow rice, food. More Natural resource. Electrictiy.Mineral. More and more....


Hundreds of Lao ppl r now studying overseas....Japan, Australia, Singapore, China, US, UK,...within ten years. They now gaining experience and waiting time to go back and develop their own country.
U ll see the great change of Laos.



"Lands per capita"


http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/geo_are_...land-per-capita


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^ the fewer population, the fewer hunger rate.

the mighty mekong runs through the heart of Lanxang.

Laos should exclude American. They did not contribute anything as well.

What are you trying to say sarayut ? Are you trying to say that Lao people who migrate to the US are not allowed in the laos ? If that is the case there will be no future for Laos at all . IF you take all Lao people from overseas out of the picture then there wouldn't be anyone to go back to help build Laos . YOu think the people in Laos can do it without any skills or education ? I don't think so my friend .

YOu ever heard of the Lao prophecy 200 years ago during the time of ANouvong ? Thao lean garn , Fa dtean daeng , and kane sun yowl will return to lanxang . Thao lean garn means a person with many section or pipe of his tonge . This refers to a person that has the power to minipulate, gather , unite and lead a group of Lao .

Fa dtean daeng means a person that has red color on the bottum of his feet . When a children are born the bottum of their foot are red . That means the lao children that migrate overseas will return lanxang with knowledge .

Kan Sun yowl means one short arm . IT symbolize a trade or marketing . One arm short means to receive or get . One arm long means to give or sell . This means a person of trade or marketing will return to Lanxang .

The prophecy said it is in our time that they will return to lanxang . Who are these people ? Its the lao children overseas that will return to build lanxang with knowledge , wisdom , and trade . 3 Praya , 3 thao , 3 nor gasut Lao , Fa dtean daeng , Lean garn , Kane sun yowl , Si gup lanxang ma tarm kao , Lanxang si gao hoong huerng jing lel .

Without the Lao children overseas there will be no future for Lao period .

lolzzzzzz since you love your Thai Syam master so much I think it might be better if you Issan and Lanna people stay with them and suffer through their civil war after Rama the 9th is gone . The king of Thailand is the only person that holds Thailand together right now . Thailand is united and prosper under his Boon Baramee ( good karma). Alot of Thai people don't understand or knows that it is the BOON BARAMEE of the Thai king that takes care of Thailand . Once he is gone there will be no Boon Baramee to hold Thailand together because the Thai king Rama the ninth is Khon Boon.

Now that I think about it , it will be better for Laos to have a small population when we go back and build it to shine like the stars heaven. Once the Lao overseas goes back unite with the Lao in Laos we will have free education for every person of Laos and in Laos . We will have free medicare , and health care for every person in Laos . With the vast Land and small population we will live and easy , healthy and plentiful life .

There are too many people in Issan and Lanna . Lao Lanna is what ? I think 6 -7 million . Issan is almost 30 million . Thats gonna suck all the resource we have . Yall out of Luck Sarayut lolzzzz...

You see the Lao that migrated overseas struggle hard to get to where we are at . Our parents sacrifice everything and even their life for our future . Now that we are doing very good it is our choice who we share our wealth and fruitfull future with .

Issan and Lanna will look at their people in the east bank of the river with their mouth watering . It might be the best interest that we close our doors and use the wealth to ourselves . House slaves of the Syamese should stay loyal to their master lolzzzz.

less with quality is my favorite, but welcome pinong if they want to join us.

Interesting prophecy. I believe that without the help of Laos oversea it is hard for Laos to prosper. Laos is not a big country. If Laos open its door for Laos oversea to invest, I have a high hope for Laos to stand out with the rest of SEA countries.

However, how is it going to happen when the Government is still a communist regime? So far from what I know it is still very scary to invest in Laos. It is just unpredictable with the government official over there. Because the system is not ready for outsider to invest.

You can send money for your relative to buy lands or other thing but that's it. What is worst is that if the government official get jealous of your relative or cousin, they get into trouble as well. And the people have no voice. They can't say or do anything.

I can see clearly from your vision but I just can't see how to go about it.

Also, one of cousin told me that back in 1990 there was an white Elephant crossing from Thailand back to Laos. After the Elephant got back to Laos, the situation in Laos got better.

He told me a little bit about the history of the white elephant. It is quite amazing. I wonder if it is true.

We should only welcome our Pi Nong Lao from Thailand only if their educated, have passion and desire to contribute to the growth and prosperity of Laos, and most important our Pi Nong Lao from Issan and Lanna must love their Lao brothers and sisters on the east bank of the mekong. If they have all 3 of these qualities, then we should welcome them with open arms.

I think the population for Laos should be around 20-25 million. Not too little and not too much.
Laos can easily hold 20-25 million people. Just look at South Korea.

There is less than 1 million Lao Nork. There is probably around 300,000. If you add up the Lao Nork that is how much there is. How many of those 300,000 do you think care for muang Lao? Smaller amount. There still a lot of Lao folks who are struggling to put food on the table and worry about Laos is not the first thing on their priority list. And just because a Lao person has a degree does not mean they know anything about or care about Lao. But there are those more rarer Lao folks who spend their off time helping the Lao community and are very knowledgeable about things relating to Laos. Again these are the rarer Lao.

Concerning Esarn and Northern Thailand. You can not be hasty when dealing with them. The scars of division and history is very deep.

Is Thao Kan Sun Yow a person? Is this person the younger brother of Thao Lean Garn in the past?

Buc ha hoo kee!

You think China, Philippines, Japan, Korea, or even Vietnam exclude their ethnic groups around the world? Wake up! With Vietnam and China in particular, why do you think their nation is modernizing so fast? It's because their overseas population help out because they have a great education and a broad perspective of how to build a nation and keep it strong.

Same with Lao people, many of us started to build up and help carry Laos in the right direction as recently as 1990s (people moving back, people buying homes there, people starting business). Even before Elephant King posted all the stuff about the prophecy of Lao people, if people look carefully the changes was already happening with the Lao community that's overseas.
Even when Lao media and music became open to the outside world, one of the first things the country did was broadcast musical numbers/messages directed towards Lao Overseas to go home. One of the songs I remember back in early 2001 had messages directed specifically to Lao Overseas and the main message in the song was, "Mua Ban Muang Lao."

Even in recent U.S. census, Lao population decrease (while Hmong and other ethnics from Lao increase or stayed in the same average) and it even stated specifically that A LOT of Lao people were re-immigrating back to the country of Laos!
It's so easy to be a coward and attack, the same can be said about you if you think about it. Since you are Isan Slave, then what the hell is your excuse for not helping all your blood Lao ethnic brothers when you are right next door to Muang Lao? Oh yeah, you'd rather keep 10% of the money to yourself and export the rest to your master.

Lately you are getting more and more funny Ele,
what are you talking about?
those two have already been excluded from Laos long time ago, national and geographically.
even now people from those places can't go to laos without official paper, likewise lao people, what is different in the future?

I'm sure if it happened in the future everyone would be welcomed to lao as friend and visitors regardless of place he is from.

Thao Kan Sun YOw was I think was the younger brother of Thao Lean Garn in the past life . Their names only symbolize their ability and expertise . The three main person has royal blood of Viengchan in the past life but not royal blood in this life . Thao lean garn words must be really powerful to minipulate a large group of people .

There are three main people but it term in the prophecy also symbolize what the Lao children with knowledge is capable of doing .

There is more than 300 000 Lao in the US aready . THey should be more if you add all of us overseas . Not all will have a degree and not all will care about the well being of Laos . It doesn't take all 1 000 000 to do the job. Lets take this as an example . I have 30 people ready when ever I am ready . That is 30 different skills . The thing is that more than one has many skills .

For my self I have many vocational skills such as Drafting ( including architectural, and mechanical ) , I am a license electrician , capentry , and can read many ancient text and arts . I as one man can teach all that for free . If I teach all that to 50 people they all can teach it to 50 more people and keep on multiplying . All other can do the same thing . Others are doctors , lawyers , and so on .

I know a man with a few doctors from California that already talked to the Lao government about bring medical care into Laos . I forgot what bank is holding the funds right now but it is already started . This man once talked to me about it before. Alot of people don't trust the Lao government right now but everything will change for better . Soon the younger generations will be governing Laos and thats the time we will all unite.


For the people who wants to still in Overseas , it is their choice . For me and my people will return to make that land shine bright . AS long as I have the lao blood running in my veins and air in my lungs I will never forget the people and the land .

BTW , I am working on NANE KHAMs video but don't know how to put it into 10 minute section yet . I can't upload it onto youtube . Once I break it up into sections then I will upload it . Nane Kham is a pra Lusi now and he is getting old .

^You should know already that any established government will not change their ways unless the people who are being ruled by that government stand up and fight for themselves. You already know that people with power (whether power to do good for all people or power to keep everything all for themselves) are stubborn, sometimes arrogant beings. Why do you think Iraq War was so much of a disaster? America dictated and mainly fought for Iraqis, when it should be the Iraqis themselves who should have inspired their own changes. If the French did everything for British America during the Revolution, would America still be the same today? No. Even with Russia, change had to be inspired from within in order to established sustainable change for all ethics and citizens from within a state.

They been exlcuded from Laos but when the day comes almost all of them will want to be in Laos . Yes , all visitor are welcome but this topic is about not sharing the wealth lolzzz.. Is like saying you can visit but you don't get the benefits .

it's simple,
they won't in the future, as much as they don't now.
some of them may want to be or may not , but whatever it's, relative is still relative regardless of what one want or does not want it's blood, not border. I don't think it's different, needless to say!

Regarding our ethnic Lao brothers and sisters in Thailand, we should rise to the occasion and reach out to them. If they're receptive and want to start a new beginning, then we should welcome them. There's going to be those who want nothing to do with us, which is fine. That's why we should only welcome those really want to start new beginning.

I, like other Lao people was raised to never trust ethnic Lao people from Thailand. The mental barriers that divided us for far too long is something we as a people must address with wisdom and compassion. If there's anything we should learn from our history, we should learn to never repeat the same mistakes that our ancestors made. All the in-fighting and bickering between our people left us with this sad predicament. We have to rise above it.

elephantking,

I don't know what you've been smoking but the Lao of Issan and Lanna has always been contributing to Laos prosperity and independence. From the day of Lao Issara to the Lao Revolutionary War, countless Lao patriots from the Issan and Lanna have had laid down their lives for Laos' Independence. The revival of Lao arts, musical and economic growth will not be possible without the generous contribution from our brethren in Issan and Lanna.

My advice to you is to stop putting a wedge between us.

Agreed, to certain extent there will be some that will be with us (Lao) and there are some that will be against us. .

What I want to know is how many percentage of our pi nong in Lan Na and Issan will be us?

My answer is we should share ours wealth and prosperity with ours pin nong Lan Na and Issan. We should help out our pi nong not just in Lan Na and Issan but all our relatives from every tribes as much as we can. Not share the land but we can share ours wealth, prosperity, knowledge, education, and so on and so forth.

Yeah! Elephantking and Willfree will come back to Laos and get married. congratulations!

The people who have the most right to the Land of Laos are the people who came from Laos(Lao Nork & Lao Nai). They are the ones who have been carrying the name Lao on our backs. When people who talk $hit on Lao it is Laotian Lao who stick up for themselves.

Drawing Muang Lao according to perceived ethnics is not wise. Why not just take all of Thailand then. There's Lao in Supanburi, Saraburi, Petchaburi, Nakhon Phathom, and all those Central thai areas. What about all the Jek in Northern Thailand. What about all the Gaeow in Esarn. They're not Lao.

I was actually thinking about the Morlum from Udon by ThongJaleurn and Bounswang. They have very good understanding of TumNai. She refered to That Si Song Huk. If you guys knows what is written on That Si Song Huk then you would know why she added that part to her Morlum.

Nhoona i havent really read any of your post. Apparently a lot of Lao AFers don't like you. When the folks in Bangkok start really beefing with eachother and you have no place to go then you can come stay with Big Daddy Ai Num in Laos. LOL Ai Num will feed you Kao Niew and Saigock Lao. You have too much Jeen in you. He will put some Lao in you LOL.

What about this Nhoona , I go to Thailand and get some of you first then head to Laos lolzzzzz . Getting married in Laos is not a good idea for the elephantking cuase in the US I can just get a girlfriend and she will live with me helping me out . No dowry involve . If she wants a wedding then she needs to save up for it lolzzzz.

They do think differently . Most of Issan people are violent with gangster mentality .

I know very well about what your talking about . This is a topic about what other people thinks and opinion. I know alot of people from Lanna but not issan personally that sacrifice their lives and fought for and Independent of the Lao state . There were alot of Issan that supported Jao Phetsarath ( the iron man of Laos ) but I don't personally know them . Let me explain to you in detail .


One of my closest friends dad is from Chieng Rai . He is now 90 years old . When I go over to my friends house he tells me story about the past and when he was young . He said he was once a captain in the royal army of Siam . He told me that when Phetsarath decided to fight against the french most of Prince Phetsaraths recruit was from Lanna and Issan . He told me that he and many of his friends went and became part of Jao Phetsaraths army . Long after the French left Laos he became became a captain in the royal Lao army of Luangprabang . When the communist came in he left and went to live in Thailand. He then came to the US as a refugee .

I also know a man from Muang Nan that went to fight for the royal Lao army against the communist part of Laos . This man got his leg blown up and also ended up in the US throught the refugee camp .

I know that there are many people from Issan and Lanna that fought for Lao independence against the French . Mahasila Viravong was from Roi Et and he was with Jao Phetsarath . You also have to remember that the Thai king once sent a letter to the Lao leader in French Indochina . The letter ask the all the Lao leaders to rise against the French and unite with Thailand . It said that the Lao will be treated better with Thailand and Thai will support the Laos rebellion . Jao Phetsarath replied that "The Lao on the left bank will only raise and unite in one condition . That is we become nation with our seperate governments and Laws ."

THe French that acts as the protectorate of Laos , told the king of Luangprabang that Phetsarath is gathering Lao from the west bank of the mekong to fight and overthrow the Luanprabang kings kingdom . The French told the King of Luangprabang that Phetsarath wants the kingdom to himself . AS for the funding of the revolution , Prince Pethsarath went and got the treasure/gold from the royal house of Viengchan that was buried and hidden for many couple hundreds of years .

Well that could be why all the Lao on the right bank decides to volunteer to fight and chase the French from the Left bank . Maybe it was for their own personal interest .

See , I even brought up personal information and now the whole world knows lolzzzz..

AS for what I was talking about , I was refering that the Lao the migrated overseas struggle hard to get to where we are at . If the Lao nork will marketing , knowledge and skills are uniting with the Lao nai to build Laos , are we willing share the wealth since we will be putting in alot of work .

Yeah they fought against the French for Laos Independent but that was for their own interest. Almost half of the Lao that left got killed when the Lao border was closed . If you @$$ was seen in the mekong river trying to cross your @$$ was target practice. Since we made it here alive would we share the wealth since we earned it ?

Message for the Lao to return to Lanxang .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FqsNN5x-ZQ...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_c0-gysTuA...feature=related

I just know the Elephant has a little heart !

and Just know that you have a lot of negative attitude towards other group of Pi-nong, especially lao isan life which you has never live.

btw if that's such bad for you, why worry about them? they already lived in different nation.
if sharing wealth mean sharing the country, and common prosperity, i'm sure it will never 't happen until this kind of bickering attitude had ceased, and the kinship mind began to evolve.

I didn't say thats what we gonna do . The topic is about what people thinks and opinion. lolzzzz... Why you pointing fingers at me for ? I want to see the Views of other Lao people on this .

from below look like you had already decided,

and i am talking about you thought not the other,though
it's a thought of living with the dead, there is not going to be any New U-turn among pi-nong with this attitude of living with the past

lolzzz .. Calm your sticky rice @$$ down bro . Slow your role bro lolzzz.... Someone brought up the past so I let out all the personal information that alot of people didn't know about . You see , I make all secrets known to the public and like to see how they feel about it .

What part of my previous post is not true . The the Lao kingdom was in its transaction the border were closed because the Lao communist government at that time feel they need to take out all their enemies . If anyone tries to leave then they are considered leaving pursecution . That means you any Lao Daeng soldier sees your sticky rices @$$ swimming or on a boat across the mekong then your sticky @$$ will be tarket practice .

The people that left Laos and made it to the third countries are only less than half of the total people . I brought it up because I want to see how people feel .

Remember with me there are no secrets anymore . Anyone brings up anything about royal secrets or any lao general secrets in the past I will let lose and the whole world will know .

Secret! i don't think those are unknown secret, many had even know better.
now, i understand you like talking about the ceased past and unseen future

don't get too hot bro.

If they love Laos and eager to Lao build Lao why cant they join?

But I think they r no more Lao now.

It similar to asking if should South Korea should exclude North Korea.

If Laos population were added by 25 millions Issanese, Imagine what will happen.

Laos will not be peace like this. There ll be more protest...Imagine those criminal, rape....

I think most of Criminal in Thailand now were commited by ppl from Issan region.

Their population overwhelmed the Laos. We cant cope with them if they get mad.

I'm not getting hot . You need to calm down bro . You taking it too serious . This is topic where we come to talk and have our discussion.

Some knows about it but not everybody knows about it . Not every one knows that Phetsarath started using the Lao Lanxang national treasure of Viengchan . Not everybody knows where it is and not everyone knows whats there either .

lolzzzz ... 5555555 I'm like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. I have a dream lolzzzz..


"i understand you like talking about the ceased past and unseen future"

You have to learn from the past to prevent yourself from making the same mistake. Its better to learn from other peoples mistake then it is to make your own mistake . learn from the past to make sound choices . Sound choices gives you good Gayah Karma ( physical action) . Good PHysical actions gives you Good Effects . Thats part of Pra Tri and the practice of Pra Tri Pee Dok .

My friend , I am the past, the present and the future .


I am the river, I am the mekong
I am the land , I am Lanxang
I am fire that keeps on burning
I am the oxygen that keeps Lanxang alive
I am the soul of Lanxang
Looga Joola mani Jedi is in me

I am the wind that lanxang breaths
I am the water that is the life line of Lanxang
I am the fire that keeps Lanxang warmth
I am earth that lanxang cultivate on

I am the past , the present , and the future of Lanxang .
I know the past and the seen future .
I am the lord of the Naga of Sri Sattanak
I am the king of Sri Sattana Kanahoot Lanxang homkao

Next thing you know Lao will be JONH 10 000 instead of samai Lao JONH 500 .

55 are you smoking weed too much lately?

I like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Matma Cantee, they are common and humble man doing the work that even the king can't do.

Nope , not smoking but time will tell . You will than fully understand my friend . They are a humble man thats why they got killed . I am Giant white elephant ready to go with a tiny string left tieing my legs .

Are you khon Lao from Issan my friend ?

I'm from Savannakhet- father and Ubon mother, Savan and Ubol are both my home.

Thats probably why your getting so sensitive when I talk about Issan . Loog Mair Moon should not be so sensitive . You ever heard of a saying Nam Moon Si Karn / Nam Kong Si Kai ? One time I was looking down from an airplane flying from Champasak to Viengchan . I saw that the Moon river and the Kong river had two different colors and they both were not the color of a regular river .

The Moon river is more blueish and the Kong river is the color of a tan egg shell . Where the mekong and the MeMoon connects the two color meets . It does not mix in color for some reason . From where they meet they color of the mekong does not change color further south .

Sometimes I wonder whats gonna happen if all the Issan and Lanna unite with the Lao of east bank. The Lao of the west bank were expose to Syamese ideaology for 200 years . They think differently and can be very violent . Most of the crimes are due to poverty . Will the Lao of the West bank be able to change their mentality , let go of all their anger and hostile attitude . This is something that can be very scary and a big problem .

Before Lao prosper it is called SAMAI LAO JONH 500 . Will the crimes and violent happen when the Moon river meets the Kong river ? Sometimes I am curious .

your jugement look a bit jumpy and arrogant.
as I said and believed there is not going to be any New U-turn among pi-nong with this kind of attitude of living with the past. clapping need both hand. if new attitude can't be developed, then living in separate home is the best interest for both.

Thats a possiblities . In this world anything is possible . I am bringing up something that can happen .

are there a girl like that in the world, no way

cannot include lanna and issan because they are apart of thailand, not that they want to join the bandwagon anyways -imo

I agree with you in a certain way nungsongsaam...But when the time comes for muang Lao too prosper.They might have a second opinion and jump into the bandwagon..lolzz...But me pesonally on my opinion I would love to have my pinong Isaan and Lanna join Muang Lao when our country.. prosper...After all they areLao blood too..u know-But they gotta get their act right and change their Thai mentality..and help our mother land muang Lao to live in peace and harmony..Forever.......

What's this?

EK do you know any of these guys? I think they'll have a good debate with you LOL.

I know them but I don't personally know them . I once talked to them before . THey should come and debate with me . One thing they won't know is who I am yet lolzzz.

Viengchan Samai JONH 500 means the the Viengchan era that are filled with criminals and organize crimes . If they called it 500 for being many criminals and drugs . 10 000 would be way more . That comes with the Chinese and Vietnamese organize crime entering Viengchan .

I know them but I don't personally know them . I once talked to them before . THey should come and debate with me . One thing they won't know is who I am yet lolzzz.

Viengchan Samai JONH 500 means the the Viengchan era that are filled with criminals and organize crimes . If they called it 500 for being many criminals and drugs . 10 000 would be way more . That comes with the Chinese and Vietnamese organize crime entering Viengchan .

they were some golden buddha's from various wat in Viengchan, also he had signatures(acknowledge and documented) from pra sangkarath and his court at that time. these treasures were taken out of Viengchan(Lanxang) and meant to be put in the safe deposit with some bank in South Vietnam but he was denied. so, he had some of them with him carried mostly by foot from viengchan to laung prabang than Thailand.

i do know some of the wealth that jao Phetsrath used to form/feed his goverment in Thailand and most of it were to support the families of his followers. jao Phetsrath himself didnt bring his wife to Thailand, his second wife was Thai lady she came from a wealthy family(some believe they had children and that one of their son was a big time goverment figuer in Thailand. i will not name names)

did u know that he used the treasures for down payment with agreement that one day he will pay back with interest and all treasures will return to Lanxang?. not sure if all were taken care of, it was part of the negotiation with the royal goverment prior his return to Viengchan.

very interesting though. gimme moe brotha!

Did you attend that conference??

Viengchan Samai Jon 500, ok now i understand. Jeen, Gaeow, and Japan, are all phatet jon bro. Japan is Jon nyai. From there Jao Chakkapat and all their NukTurakit and most NukGanMuang.

Yeah, Nhoona and Deejai should get married, they look good on eachohter.