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ThePunisher
this incident happened 2 weeks ago i think,but i was busy with some stuff.

Feaste your eyes
For you people who dont know,israel is building a protective barriers between israel and the palestinian west bank.this dam barrier is litrely eating the palestinians land.alot of
farms and lands are being taking to this barrier.the israeli high court itself made some decisions about changing the route of the barrier so it does not take so many lands,but the israeli military just ignored them,and if you checked,you will know im right.

some of the palestinians thier with some of peace protestors from USA and europe protest about the barrier and camp on the land that is going to be taken for the barrier.
israeli soldiers throw smoke grenades and shoot some people and the barrier is still on the move.

dont tell me its an idvisual act,look how many soldiers around the blindfolded man.the soldier who shoot the man took some stupid punishment,and a high grade person in the israeli army refused the accusations on the soldier who was incharge of that detachment and said he is an "exceptional" soldier
MandingJinZhanShi
those people have been at war since the beginning of time. its going to take a really big wall to stop conflicts.
applepannic
If you ever needed justification for the Holocaust, those damned Israelis just created one. Seriously, why can't they be more like American Jews. All they do is make jokes.
MandingJinZhanShi
QUOTE(applepannic @ Aug 5 2008, 02:38 PM) *
If you ever needed justification for the Holocaust, those damned Israelis just created one. Seriously, why can't they be more like American Jews. All they do is make jokes.


i wonder what khmers make nowadays, hows ankor?
applepannic
QUOTE(MandingJinZhanShi @ Aug 5 2008, 02:39 PM) *
i wonder what khmers make nowadays, hows ankor?


We make coconut bio diesel.
P. Bredahl
no worries it's one of those good moral israeli bullets... like those good moral israeli nuclear weapons and apartheid walls.

theres nearly as many jews in USA as in Israel im waiting for the day that all zionist jews with their american english accent leave israel and moves to some semi deserted state in the midwest.. there they can bother people with their bs prophecies
ThePunisher
^ USA relations with jews are realy annoying and harmful,not for us only but for americans too.i mean americans pay taxis to support jews,and jews have a great influence in the american politics and economy
baal
QUOTE(ThePunisher @ Aug 6 2008, 05:23 AM) *
^ USA relations with jews are realy annoying and harmful,not for us only but for americans too.i mean americans pay taxis to support jews,and jews have a great influence in the american politics and economy


I don't think either Israelis or Palestinians deserve self-determination. Why should they? Each side has had chances to make peace and blown it. Imo neither side wants peace.
ThePunisher
^ ok lets talk about peace.in 1993 i think the oslo treaty was singed between the palestinians and the israelis.this treaty made israel aknowledge us as people who have right to live here and have a state...etc

depending on this treaty,the palestiniane lands were classified into three areas:

area A: is palestinian lands and under out control.
area B: is palestinian lands under israel control
area C: is israeli lands.

depending on the treaty after the palestinian authority was formed,it should take apart Hammas military force and then israel will start to give us all area B lands gradualy.
the palestinian authority took apart hammas military force,put all members of its army in jail.then the israel government played it smart :
"you arleady took apart hammas,why we should give you anything".so palestinian people and thier authority got frustrated and angry,and gradualy hammas started to get back in action.at this phase,the palestinian authority just couldnt do anything to stop hammas from grwing back and building its army again because in palestinian's people eyes,we just got owned and took for granted,and gradualy things got like this $hit today.
baal
QUOTE(ThePunisher @ Aug 9 2008, 04:04 AM) *
^ ok lets talk about peace.in 1993 i think the oslo treaty was singed between the palestinians and the israelis.this treaty made israel aknowledge us as people who have right to live here and have a state...etc

depending on this treaty,the palestiniane lands were classified into three areas:

area A: is palestinian lands and under out control.
area B: is palestinian lands under israel control
area C: is israeli lands.

depending on the treaty after the palestinian authority was formed,it should take apart Hammas military force and then israel will start to give us all area B lands gradualy.
the palestinian authority took apart hammas military force,put all members of its army in jail.then the israel government played it smart :
"you arleady took apart hammas,why we should give you anything".so palestinian people and thier authority got frustrated and angry,and gradualy hammas started to get back in action.at this phase,the palestinian authority just couldnt do anything to stop hammas from grwing back and building its army again because in palestinian's people eyes,we just got owned and took for granted,and gradualy things got like this $hit today.


This conflict is more than a century old. In 1948 Israel accepted the UN partition proposal. The Arabs rejected it.

When I was young I supported Israel because I saw it struggling for existence. After the Yom Kippur War I saw Israel pursue a settlement policy designed to create a Greater Israel along biblical lines. The Israelis did not choose peace. I stopped supporting them. I started supporting the Palestinians. I continued to support the Palestinians through the First Intifada. I was pleased to see the Oslo Accords. I saw Ehud Barack make an incredible offer of land for peace to Y Arafat in 2000. The Palestinians rejected the offer, and began the Second Intifada including a series of suicide bombing in Israel itself against Israeli civilians. In doing so the Palestinians rejected peace and I stopped supporting them.

At one time I thought Israel should return to its borders as they existed before June 1967 in exchange for peace. Similarly, I once thought that by its withdrawal from Gaza Israel would satisfy some Palestinian demands. I now believe that there is nothing Israel could do to achieve peace with the Palestinians. Even returning to its 1967 borders won't bring peace. Each side had the opportunity to make peace, but has rejected the chance.

I once thought that a two state solution would provide a workable basis for peace. I no longer think so. I don't believe the Palestinians are interested in a two state solution. I don't even think the Palestinians are interested in a one state solution in which Palestine would be the surviving entity. I now think Palestinians are simply interested in killing jews. Nothing more.

I now think that peace will only return to Palestine after the Israelis and Palestinians have killed each other. Since each people see the struggle as existential, peace will come when both peoples exist no more. The international community is exhausted with the Palestinian-Israeli struggle. We don't even want to hear about it anymore.
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