QUOTE(xuanzang @ Aug 10 2008, 03:03 AM) [snapback]3861960[/snapback]
Well chinese base for nuclear submarines is built on island of hainan, not exactly your backyard is it ? besides the base has been there for years, but western meida recently reported it again as if they never knew it before.
If we want a peaceful solution, then both sides must be prepared to compromise, as far as I read from chinese sources, china and vietnam have decided to co-operate and solve the issues one by one, both sides promised not to take steps to escalate the issue meanwhile. But vietnamese government is now acting against this agreement, it is now actively seeking international oil companies to operate in this area, try to get more countries involved in the issue, it has built an airport there, and upgrading infrastructure on the islands. By taking such actions, vietnamese government is walking down a dangerous path.
I find it funny that so many vietnamese members are so sure of their right, what is right, what is wrong, I donno, what vietnam did to champ people, to cambodia people, were those actions right ? How did vietnam got south vietnam area, by asking original people politely ? In fact, vietnam is no different than china, it takes land from weaker neighbours, as all other big nations did, to cry about 'justice' and 'rightfullness' over those dispute islands is funny at least. If you can take it, it's yours, don't tell me it isn't how vietnam did it too. You call me 'fake', 'hollier than thou' attitude, aren't you the same ? stop playing innocent lamb please.
If we want a peaceful solution, then both sides must be prepared to compromise, as far as I read from chinese sources, china and vietnam have decided to co-operate and solve the issues one by one, both sides promised not to take steps to escalate the issue meanwhile. But vietnamese government is now acting against this agreement, it is now actively seeking international oil companies to operate in this area, try to get more countries involved in the issue, it has built an airport there, and upgrading infrastructure on the islands. By taking such actions, vietnamese government is walking down a dangerous path.
I find it funny that so many vietnamese members are so sure of their right, what is right, what is wrong, I donno, what vietnam did to champ people, to cambodia people, were those actions right ? How did vietnam got south vietnam area, by asking original people politely ? In fact, vietnam is no different than china, it takes land from weaker neighbours, as all other big nations did, to cry about 'justice' and 'rightfullness' over those dispute islands is funny at least. If you can take it, it's yours, don't tell me it isn't how vietnam did it too. You call me 'fake', 'hollier than thou' attitude, aren't you the same ? stop playing innocent lamb please.
I read somewhere they're also planing to build military bases and or nuclear bases on the smaller chain of islands. I doubt that China only want the oil, but the whole sea itself.
I wouldn't say the Cham and Khmer were weaklings. I read somewhere the Cham sacked the capital modern day Hanoi a few times. Furthermore, most of the war with Vietnam they started it first. Anyways that's irreverent, What Vietnam did to Cambodian and Cham people was during the bloody age of conquest. Stop using a woman tactic of guilt trip on me, it doesn't work. And stop taking things out of context. We live in a new age, an age where international laws is established. China is a member of the U.N correct? If so international laws stated that you can no longer going around conquering new land. However, your government probably have a another version of history about those islands so lets not go there. Although, deep inside you know those claims are b.s and certainly you know your cases is laughable that is why your government refused to settle it in international court.
There is no such thing as good or evil those are just simply label you give them. If something is bad for you or un-beneficial you label it as evil or bad, if something is beneficial you will label it as good. With that being said, China's move is dishonorable, it's against international laws which China is a member of. China is untrustworthy because she won't take it to international court. I think she's a lair, I don't trust a woman that's lie too much.
I already explain to you why you're a fake peace maker who acts like a saint but support China's ambition. I guess in term of the political manipulative language ;peace means war; Ignorance mean strength; nationalism means bigotry; Compromise means submission. So when you say you want peace you actually want war. When you say you want diplomatic solution you actually mean Vietnam must submit to China's will.
Like I've said, try somebody else. I'm not buying it