Defending thugs is the lowest thing you can do.

Not if the money is right.

Srok Khmer is different then in the Americas jack @$$. That war was completely idiotic to tell you the truth of how it all started and such then it lead to that idiotic genocide from Pol Pot, but it still has nothing to do with Khmer people who lived in poor @$$ neighborhoods and such in the Americas. You can go ahead and compare it as much as you like dude, but it will never relate to each other at all seriously because I know the only thing you will continue to say is that they killed their own people.

Khmer Rouge did kill their own people, and Khmer thugs harm their own kind -- especially during social events like weddings and especially New Years. . These new guys with no direction in life lost all the original intention of what the OGs started in the 80s.

If you are going to differ the new generation of G's then don't compare me to them since I've lived by the old ways of protecting my own people. Well I'm going to end this useless discussion so you can go ahead and have the last words.

Asianetik, its fu-king dumb to defend thugs or gangsters with the played out, they're defending their own people card. Yes when they started out, but now they're harming their own people.

You don't know me very well do you ? I don't know if you even read any of my posts from any of the other threads, I'm still in the gang until now but my association with them has broken off due to growing older and such plus my 2nd oldest brother is still in the gang now. I can defend them as much as I want to and it's because I grew up with them, most of my family grew up with it, my friends grew up with it, such and such so on. The only reason I do not associate myself with those good people or whatsoever is because I have nothing in common with them at all.

P.S. You can go ahead and talk all your crap about gangsters, but do not steep low enough to talk crap about my 2nd oldest brother and friends since they are still associated with it.

I don't know specifically anyone's situation as that comes 2nd. But you are turning a blind eye solely on the basis that you have no common ground with people like myself? You know why you have nothing in common with people like me or Cambodia -- Its because you choose to close off that bridge that ties all Khmer people that is different from yourself. Take away my upbringings and take your's away what do we both have in common? If you can't see this -- I don't think you'll ever be able to see it.

Its a shame to have you write "I will remain as Khmer until the day I die..." but defend gangs. Gangs are lowly, thats my opinion based on the fact that no high person will hurt people nor would they spend all their time on the street creating nonsense. Do you hear about gangs going to community centers teaching kids about the dangers of gun? No, then why is there even a reason to defend them. I have brothers and cousins in gangs, but guess what I chose not to be in them because I don't adorn myself with lowliness.

You actually need to shut the hell up seriously man. I'm serious about this too with your view on people who lived these lifestyles. Honesty if I was to ever meet you on the streets I would never hesitate to give you the biggest black eye ever with your discriminative view and you continue to do it with so much pride like your something special because you had it better. My quote is my quote and it has nothing to do with you, nor your views of how the Khmer way goes oh by the way how traditional do you think Srok Khmer really is now ? It's being modernized pretty quickly now to tell you the truth along with many many changes.

P.S. Go cry yourself a river because the new Khmer Hip-Hop has already hit Cambodia long ago so do yourself a favor and complain to Hun Sen about the issue.

Hip hop doesn't equal gangs fool. You are the single most fu-king retard person here, how could you defend gangs on the basis of "tolerance"? I wouldn't defend a child rapist nor a gang member, and that black eye threat will only make me sue your fu-king @$$ for all the dust and lint you have.

Oh you idiot I grew up in some of the poorest part of America. I already told you how some people in my family chose that lifestyle, but it didn't sit with me. I decided that i'm going to go to school and the worst situation work as a middle class productive citizen of America.

How stupid can you be ? Didn't I already posted I had a job, I have a car, I pay my rent, I pay my bills, the fu-k do you want more ? You need to stfu seriously about hating on your own people whether they are poor, living a different lifestyle, looking down on your people because they do this and that or whatsoever. Your way of hating on Khmers who were or are into gang banging is no different then how the Siam people deceive us as with that Khom and Khamen crap you fool. You don't know anything about how we worked our gangs and such and what rules we had to apply by and such because not all gangs work the same way idiot. The reason I do not like you is because you think you are the non lowly one while I am to you.

P.S. I will always defend them from the likes of a discriminative person like you.

Originally Hip hop was not about sex, drugs, women, and thugs. It was about opression, freedom of speech, discrimination. Its basically a poem about social issues with a beat at its core. I don't know how you make the comparision of modern hip hop with today's gangsters.

That's the same thing people generalize Hip-Hop or gangsters with they categorize it as the same even though they don't do their research about it. So tell me this why do they hate on Khmers who wear Hip-Hop clothes and such and call them a lowly thug looking gangster ?????? Calling them all kinds of racist names like oh you wannabe black you are not black you are Khmer blah blah blah blah... yeah we are Khmer but they still say they ain't Khmer ?????

What is positive about gangs, and I could hate anyone I want ethnicity doesn't matter fool. I'm not the kind of person who defends Khmer blindly like how I would never defend Pol Pot. I think I reserve the right to hate someone who rapes children so I reserve the rights to hate someone who promotes guns and violence.

You have no say in the activities I've done in the past anyways if you want to talk crap saying I'm lowly and such then why don't you try and do it in my face honestly ? Why on the internet since you know I wouldn't be able to put a hand on you through the monitor huh ? See that's why I could never get along with scum people like you who like to trash talk about people's lifestyles and such whether it's past or present... I just don't like people like you who don't do a damn positive thing to help out their own people whether bad or good you should mind your own damn business seriously.

P.S. Your signature looks so damn gay.

Because I'm not going to take the time out of my life and drive to where you live to condemn the way you live fool. Yes, I'm horrible because I don't help my people out. I prefer to defend people who shoot other people, often my own people who shoot my own people.

Edit: yes my signature is so gay. But its not killing anyone.

So your saying I shoot my own people ? Wow your a mind reader huh ? You actually know I shot people and such too ? You must be an idiot seriously to think every Khmer person who are into gangs have shot and killed their own people so get your facts straight before you make yourself look like a complete fool right now.

Yes because gangs are known for their anti-gun policy.

You need to reread what I quoted on my last post idiot and I made myself clear many times about the issue. You just keep asking the same stupid questions over and over again.

What, because I'm intolerant. So to be tolerant, I guess all the pedophiles out there are just living their lifestyles.

You know what, everyone is going to have an opinion. Most of the time, people get mad cause they can't accept that someone else thinks differently. The problem starts not with the other person who voices his or her opinion. At the moment the other party rejects the opinion and view points that's where the drama starts. Its all in a matter of how much of your time and energy you are willing to give a fu-k enough to even protect/defend what you deem worthy of this entire arguement.

My point is, I'm going to let you know -- No I don't like Hip-Hop/Urban dress style. Does that mean I think I'm better than you? Umm no it doesn't... It means that you assumed it based on my upbringings and values.

One thing for sure is MOST OF US all grew up in poverty with parents living month to month depended on those foodstamps/welfare checks/housing/ you name it !!!!!! We too had to share the neighborhood with the Mexicans and Blacks.

I think your just acting retarded right now honestly. Must be bored tonight huh ? I'm pretty sure you are because I have answered every question you have asked already and you continue to ask the same crap again and again... man how annoying can you be dude ? Are you really that blind ? Well maybe so since you claim to be some sort of geek or whatsoever, but whatever man.

P.S. If you still want to know why I defend them is because one of them is my blood brother and the others are friends from childhood until now jackass. I never associated myself with good people because I don't like how weak they are, they can't even protect themselves from bullies and such so they go and call their bad @$$ gangster family members to take care of those other thugs or whatsoever.



Yeah most likely it's always like that due to different opinions and experiences with the situations and such. It's just some went one way and others went the other way.. I in the other hand have chosen my path and realized a lot more from past experiences and learned so much as I grew older. You think I don't tell the youngsters to don't do what the new generation of Khmers are doing now ? I already told the guy I joined it due to blood family in the gang and to protect our own people.. I don't know how it works now because many of them are just killing each other over red and blue over in Stockton... there are no Khmer bloods in Oakland for us to even kill our own people.

I could give balls to who ever wants to be urban, but gang is different. Gang is degrading because lets face it, gangs hurt much more than they contribute. I don't know how you would defend something like that.

Well I don't like how violent and aggressive gangs are.

Being aggressive is my nature and putting fear on others is what gives you more power for them to not FUCK with YOU. You never been in my steps to let you even tell my story dude.

Is that how you perceive good people? On what basis or grading scale make a person "good"? What makes you strong compared to us? What makes you stronger than us? Does clenching my fist like a cave man, beating my chest left and right, and going at someone like a wild dog make me strong? Does giving in to anger and revenge make you stronger? You know how easy revenge is? You know how difficult forgiveness is?

That's what you want to teach to your kids. Seriously what kind of fu-king crack are you on. All your excuses deals with they defend the community kind of crap, but these lowlifes hurt the community. Without gangs, who would be doing the shooting? The only reason we have gangs is the fact that there are mother fu-kers in every race who want to prove how tough they are.

I know what you mean and everything because forgiveness is hard to do because I've been screwed over many times by friends and such not due to gang related stuff though. The reason people continue to be the way they are is because they grew up with it for so long that they can't just let it go because it is who they are now... some can change, but many cannot also. It all depends on the person to make a change, but as I said before it takes time to change. The way I perceive good people as are the ones who went to school, dorky looking, so religious, smart, smart talker, or the types who look down on others. I get offended easily when people look down on me whether I liked doing different things or live a different lifestyle I got hated on from Khmer people and other ethnic groups over thinking they are better then you. That's all i hated was being look down upon for so long for why I builded up so much hate for many things and yes I mean HATE.



Honestly who are you to tell my story ? You never been in a gang to begin with along with your corny @$$ experiences to begin with such as NONE. You don't know me dude and you don't know how I dealt with things back in the past. I don't care how much you hate gangs and such, but I will continue to hate on you for hating on my 2nd oldest brother now for calling him a lowly scum with no life and shooting people and such blah blah blah. That is my main reason to protect and defend gangstas because it leads to you talking crap about my family.

No one hates you for the person you are. You accumulate hate because of your actions. if I did something bad, I wouldn't expect to be treated with respect.

I'm going to not argue with you anymore, but in my eyes anything gang related is low. I already said why, because I feel it hurts the community more than it could ever help.

I never spoke of how you lived your life. I said what I said, gangs are low because they promote violence. Its ironic that you speak for my life experiences though.

Your perceptions are just different man I've grew up to a point where you need to be aggressive on these streets to protect yourself from harm and danger. You think I liked getting jumped out the blues and such by unknown people I didn't even know when I wasn't in a gang as a little kid before ? People got hurt every day or shot and killed over stupid @$$ crap, but most of it was due to racist issues. I had my own reasons to join the gang and it wasn't to kill and hurt my own Khmer people at all and I already told you i never shot and killed my own people.

So if you are paying taxes, earning your own wages, have a car, and doing good for yourself why do you still let these things linger? You got a job and a car, you pretty much have the life. Those who talk $hit are always going to be yapping for one reason or another.

Dude, where do you think I live? When I was a kid, I was into the whole hip hop scene and 80% of my friends were black people. You don't need to be in a gang to love life in a tough urban place.

Every city is different from one another, every gang is different from one another because they all work in different ways itself. I have already told goombaking of most of the things I had to go through from where I was born and raised at for 22 years... that 22 years have still made me who I still am now even though I live in Sacramento which is mostly populated with white people. They have diversity here also and a bad area also, but it does not compare to what Oakland is. I can walk around here with no problem in Sacramento because there are too many wimpy punks who like to say something stupid, but they back down like a girl when I get on the defensive side... as for Oakland it's different because they wouldn't even give you a chance to talk at all, but will resort to violence first.

P.S. I have many reasons for why I joined a gang, but the main reason is due to family forcing you to be in the gang and yes I chose to be in the gang. If I didn't join the gang I wouldn't have gotten any closer to my 2nd oldest brother as brothers.

When I grew up, I don't start fights. I try to avoid bad people, but if you're confronted you have to give it the best you got. You have to get the best out of life.

wimpy? Don't you know words hurt more than your punches ever will? Sure, punch me in the face why don't you... It will go away in about a week, yet if I say something so mean to you it will be a scar that will not heal. Those same whimps who back down like a girl have more power and sting in their words than the force of your physical punch will ever have on them. You think talking is ineffective? There was this black teacher who played a game of rulette with this hotshot mexican thug who ended up taking the bullet to his head. The mexican guy was so ashamed of backing down from his own tauntings and bad @$$ attitude, that he shot himself in the head out of guilt. This was actually based on a true story.

I don't start fights too because it's wrong to go and randomly beat the crap out of someone I don't recall any of the gang members back then ever doing that also because that was never the way how we wanted other gangs and such to perceive our gang back then. We only retaliated when it was needed and we didn't just target the whole gang we only aimed for the person who did the action. Yes the cycle will always go round and round, but what could we have done in this society to stop other people from hurting the people you loved or cared about ? Call the cops ? Stay away from the situation ? from the current situations back then we were sick of it, we couldn't take it anymore and we were frustrated people who didn't do a jack thing to other people. There are always many reasons for the formation of gangs and why people join gangs... I had plenty of reasons to go my path.

P.S. I don't claim myself as a gang member anymore, but I can tell you what I've been through and such in the past.. most of the things I tell you here is from past experiences and some of it may still reflect on the actions I say on AF here.

You know what netiks, if its o.k with you to retaliate then its o.k with how you want to live your life. In my eyes, the best revenge is to live life to the fullest.

I don't know man I'm just getting tired of these talks lol... It's all in my past, but I still bring it up.. I know I defend them is because my 2nd oldest brother is still an active gang member and I take family issues really serious... My family and I are really family oriented and we are always there for each other. We have always protected and backed up each other for so long that i take things to offense when they talk about something that is relevant to my brother.

P.S. I'm just going to end this discussion once and for all seriously... every person is different and people have different opinions and views and I'm going to have to accept that.. I've lived my life the way it was until now and you guys have too so I'll just leave it at that. Well I'm off for tonights gonna be watching TV for a bit or something.

eh i don't like the fact a majority of Cambodians are in gangs or some thing like that....like get a job or something go get diploma or something that's the reason my parents moved down to Florida to have a better life for me as you can see I'm 14 and well educated

LOL, you're so young you'll start to see that in a few years you get to know more about life.

Yes i know I'm young but i know a lot .... there aren't much young people like me .... i know plenty of life and so on ...
I'm really interested and politics and the world i also post in defenceforums.com since i was 12 lol

I want Khmer people to continue to do what they are doing in the Americas because I do not want to represent my people as pathetic as them yuun and chun who don't even know how to defend themselves from harm or are also seen as FOBS. Get a life or a diploma ? Oh wow who are you to tell them they are not capable of getting one while they are still actively doing what they are doing ???? Do yourself a favor and get a HS Diploma first for the next long 4 years you have left.

P.S. Too bad gangstas like me back in the days already earned his High School Diploma so your generalization makes no sense at all to even say you uneducated little brat.

eh now your just being mean guess this forum is no place for kids

Ah ha haa... Kid that was really cute in all, but just enjoy your youth while you have it.

Yeah, I agree. You should at least get a HS diploma and then try to attend a community college while working.

Its always good to have an education. Netik, isn't it better to be tough but at the same time intelligent and resourceful? You don't like one I don't like the other.

You act as if I'm stupid. Trust me I grew up learning many things rather then just banging back in the days. You think I'm not capable of learning about computers, electronics, gadgets, cars, and such ? There's even more on the list of what I enjoy and when I was in high school I enjoyed studying about science, but hey I even liked watching the discovery channel the most as a kid. I can go on and on with the list of hobbies and special skills I have picked up as a child until now if you would like. Last but not least... you don't know me brosky and you will never will.

I didn't say you're incapable, but your attitude hints that you're resistant to doing those things because to you they might appear weak. I will never gt you because you defend gangs.