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lemongrass
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Aug 9 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]3861295[/snapback]
That article is waaay too long and I really doesn't apply to me or my family. I guess in some ways it does kinda make sense, but I know for sure my parents and grandparents are not in denial about their Chinese-ness. No they don't know the language and lost all ties with native country China, but they always seem to go back to Cambodia. My mom's side of the family is only Chinese by name, but everything else is Khmer.

I don't see why people denied their ancestry at all. I would not deny my Khmer ancestry at the time when Thailand is very anti Khmer, granted it get me into a lot of trouble. People should be very proud of their ancestry because that is the truth and it have consolation to one's piece of mind. Your parents and grandparents considered themselves Khmer because they have no connection what so ever to China, and I agreed to that. They are every bit Khmer just like the rest of the Khmer people but they have different ancestry. I hope you understand that.
Being Khmer, we do require people to change their family name or their religious believe either. Its an open society. Khmer people in Thailand still believe in that value just as Khmer in Cambodia.
If we don't believe in the freedom of choice. Do you still think there be a Khmer Kantrum or karaoke? It would be just another Thai, wouldn't it?
lemongrass
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 12 2008, 03:42 AM) [snapback]3865548[/snapback]
I was born and raised in the USA and I don't feel the least bit at all as an American for crap. The main point is that I never claim to be an American I always claim to be Khmer or Asian. I think lemongrass is Khmer in my book I honestly never saw him as a Thai.

Khmer is an identity and you are just as Khmer just as I am. However, I am Thai because i happened to carry Thai ID and pay taxes. Other then that, do not let all of these nationalism get too crazy. It is an ethnic identity and that is much older than Thailand or Cambodia, and that will be here for a long time.
Back on topic: Khmer people have always have good relation with China and the Chinese people since ancient time to the present. Although, it is untested, it is good never the less.
Khmer people in general have a lot to learn from Chinese people in their philosophies, religions, and most important of all is their business management system. It will enrich our culture more. The Europeans got the Jews, we got the Chinese.
By the way, the world's first restaraunt started in China about two thousand years ago.
applepannic
QUOTE(lemongrass @ Aug 12 2008, 03:36 AM) [snapback]3865541[/snapback]
So if I am Thai, what does that make you?
Why do you always have to resort to name calling? Have I ever called you names? Where do you live now?
I don't know everything but I do know about people. To say that Chinese people have money and go where they please is not anti Chinese. Its a statement from an observation. To call people a paranoid is not correct either, when all a person doing is pointing out the facts.
If I to say that the Khmer Rouge killed city-Khmer, is that anti Khmer Rouge? No, it is a fact of observation. If I said that Thai soldier dumpted Cambodian refugees at the Preah Vehear region. Is that an anti-Thai statement. It is rather a factual statement.
The paranoid one is you and every time I mention anything about Chinese or Cambodian-Chinese, you blew a fuze or just having a complete break down.
If you are a Khmer or Cambodian of Chinese decent, it is alright to call yourself Khmer and as long as you don't start bashing on other Khmer, then it is alright by my book.
I am Thai, so what! Does that make me none Khmer? Being Khmer is more than nationality and that something you need to learn when you grow up.
You reminded me of someone who called himself Leaking juice or juicey leaky or something. Very emotional and very young.


Lemongrass, you are someone who acts and thinks like he is wiser than he really is. I've just pointed out that during the Preah Vihear issue, you claimed the Chinese were responsible for rousing up trouble amongst Thais and Khmer? How paranoid is that? And most of your "observation" is groundless, the hospital patient in Thailand were poor folks. You rushed to the conclusion that they were Chinese because you feel insecure!

Why do I get mad when you blame Chinese people? The same reason I get mad when someone starts getting paranoid about Koreans. It doesn't make me a wannabe, but the fact that these are the people helping Cambodia rebuild itself, and since you're not even going to be the least grateful than the Chun De Tlork are helping out, that annoys me since you're not Cambodian. I lived half of my life in Cambodia, and I grew up middle class but this middle class back then was poor. So it makes me proud that middle class like I was in Cambodia have more! They have more money and a better life so they actually want to live in their homeland.
Goombaking209
QUOTE(lemongrass @ Aug 12 2008, 01:52 AM) [snapback]3865558[/snapback]
I don't see why people denied their ancestry at all. I would not deny my Khmer ancestry at the time when Thailand is very anti Khmer, granted it get me into a lot of trouble. People should be very proud of their ancestry because that is the truth and it have consolation to one's piece of mind. Your parents and grandparents considered themselves Khmer because they have no connection what so ever to China, and I agreed to that. They are every bit Khmer just like the rest of the Khmer people but they have different ancestry. I hope you understand that.
Being Khmer, we do require people to change their family name or their religious believe either. Its an open society. Khmer people in Thailand still believe in that value just as Khmer in Cambodia.
If we don't believe in the freedom of choice. Do you still think there be a Khmer Kantrum or karaoke? It would be just another Thai, wouldn't it?


Denying is different than embracing. For better or for worse, I still call myself Khmer. Unlike those other Chinese kids who uses a dual identity to their advantage.
Goombaking209
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 12 2008, 01:20 AM) [snapback]3865529[/snapback]
Khmer people are ethically Chun also so they can claim what they want to claim.


The most retarded thing I heard. Khmer is an ethnic, but is chen an ethnic?
thewiseguy
QUOTE(Nikkie_nid @ Aug 10 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]3863032[/snapback]
Chinese people live in Cambodia mostly operates business like: restaurant, hotel, entertainment, factory and supermarket.

To Cambodia, it is not hurt to have them dominate on these sections.



I think there should be more equality. We khmers are supposed to run these things not no outsiders. The way things are going is that Cambodia is headed into the same direction as Thailand which really bothers me.
thewiseguy
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 12 2008, 01:20 AM) [snapback]3865529[/snapback]
Khmer people are ethically Chun also so they can claim what they want to claim.



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U are an idiot.
applepannic
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I think there should be more equality. We khmers are supposed to run these things not no outsiders. The way things are going is that Cambodia is headed into the same direction as Thailand which really bothers me.



Nikkie said they mostly operate these business, which is understandable since most restaurants that serve Chinese food are popular all over the world. Factories are almost always own by foreigners in developing nations, heck even in America. I'm not too sure about hotels or entertainment, last time I checked the latest hotel going up was owned by Khmer and most of the entertainment are Khmer owned also. I guess its not really clear cut who owns what nowadays.


On another note, the Chinese own restaurant for some reason can't make good kuyteav. I've been to some kuyteav places in Phnom Penh and the best ones were made by Khmer chefs. Ironic no?
chakra1
[quote name='applepannic' date='Aug 12 2008, 12:41 PM' post='3866175'
On another note, the Chinese own restaurant for some reason can't make good kuyteav. I've been to some kuyteav places in Phnom Penh and the best ones were made by Khmer chefs. Ironic no?
[/quote]

may be because you look like chin chaw ( raw chinese ) that why chinese chefs make kuyteav different
( less salt , less sugar , no msg )
applepannic
Chakra, I don't know why the way you look affects the flavor in your food. And by the way, I am dark skin and have round eyes.
chakra1
QUOTE(applepannic @ Aug 12 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]3866360[/snapback]
Chakra, I don't know why the way you look affects the flavor in your food. And by the way, I am dark skin and have round eyes.


chinese chefs cook food diffent flavor for different customer .
if he presumed you are ethnic chinese less salt, sugar , on msg
if he presumed you ethnic khmer .. salty , sweet and lot of msg
lot of dark skin chinese in cambodia .. khmer called them chen khmao or chen kompot.
applepannic
But I don't look Chinese Chakra, meaning they just suck at making kuyteav.
chakra1
QUOTE(applepannic @ Aug 12 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]3866409[/snapback]
But I don't look Chinese Chakra, meaning they just suck at making kuyteav.


ok just add sugar and soy sauce and lot of msg
applepannic
Chakra, do you prefer dry kuteav or kuyteav with the soup in it? I prefer the dry one because of the sauce they put on it. I also like adding lime and soy sauce to it for more flavor.
chakra1
QUOTE(applepannic @ Aug 12 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]3866435[/snapback]
Chakra, do you prefer dry kuteav or kuyteav with the soup in it? I prefer the dry one because of the sauce they put on it. I also like adding lime and soy sauce to it for more flavor.


just ask the waiter if tea and soup are free you can skip kuyteav
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Aug 12 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]3866045[/snapback]
The most retarded thing I heard. Khmer is an ethnic, but is chen an ethnic?


What do you know about the intermixing of Khmers today ? I know you would know the answer since you claim to know everything mister I am fully Khmer and everybody is not in your book. How is Khmer only an ethnic ? What about Hmong, Mien, Cham ? How is Chun not a different ethnic group aside from Khmers in Srok Khmer ? Please elaborate for me mister know it all. In my book you are a Cambodian American traitor who ran away to the Americas while his forefathers the Americans bomb and killed 300,000 Khmers in Cambodia (sarcasm).

Khmer is not an ethnic it's a nationality! laugh.gif

P.S. Isn't Chun Chinese anyways ? The things my dad taught me is that Chun is a different ethnic group in Srok Khmer they are not Khmers, but just Teochiew people who live with their cultures and beliefs in Srok Khmer such as my mom. Hey all my information is from the old folks who were born in the 1940's most of yall guys information is modernized updated information.

I know the Chinese lived side by side with the Khmers back during the Khmer Empire fine and all, but isn't Chun still used as the same for any other different type of Chinese ethnic group ? The old folks still use the word Chun for any different ethnic group of Chinese.
applepannic
Asianetik, you claimed Khmers were Chen. That's just about as retarded as it gets, and the fact that three people said that should show you how ridiculous your claims are.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(applepannic @ Aug 12 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]3867325[/snapback]
Asianetik, you claimed Khmers were Chen. That's just about as retarded as it gets, and the fact that three people said that should show you how ridiculous your claims are.


Were chun ? When have I said that ? Khmer people are a hybrid group of people. They weren't just Khmers were they ? I'm pretty sure we intermixed with so many crap back in the days, but they are ethnically mixed with Chinese the most from history. If you want to talk about the aboriginal people of Srok Khmer that's a different story since they were already there.
applepannic
Look back one page.

So? You add like any people in the world (except very isolated people) are pure. The Chinese themselves are a myriad of admixture. Even the Koreans are mixed and they have the most ethnically homogeneous country in the world. These "mixes" doesn't account for anything if you don't self identify with them.
Goombaking209
QUOTE(applepannic @ Aug 12 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]3867325[/snapback]
Asianetik, you claimed Khmers were Chen. That's just about as retarded as it gets, and the fact that three people said that should show you how ridiculous your claims are.


This guy still believes that Khmer = Chinese + Indian mix. laugh.gif It gets even more ridiculous than that. I don't know why Khmer just can't be... Khmer ... Like how we were the last 2000 years of our history.

Oh yeah, maybe he's thinks that Funan is Chinese or something lol. Funan = Phnom.
applepannic
I hate it when people believe they're something they aren't. We may have receive many admixtures of Indian and Chinese, but we weren't formed by this union. Some people can't get that through their head, believing the Khmers are something we're really not.
Goombaking209
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 12 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]3867282[/snapback]
What do you know about the intermixing of Khmers today ? I know you would know the answer since you claim to know everything mister I am fully Khmer and everybody is not in your book. How is Khmer only an ethnic ? What about Hmong, Mien, Cham ? How is Chun not a different ethnic group aside from Khmers in Srok Khmer ? Please elaborate for me mister know it all. In my book you are a Cambodian American traitor who ran away to the Americas while his forefathers the Americans bomb and killed 300,000 Khmers in Cambodia (sarcasm).

Khmer is not an ethnic it's a nationality! laugh.gif

P.S. Isn't Chun Chinese anyways ? The things my dad taught me is that Chun is a different ethnic group in Srok Khmer they are not Khmers, but just Teochiew people who live with their cultures and beliefs in Srok Khmer such as my mom. Hey all my information is from the old folks who were born in the 1940's most of yall guys information is modernized updated information.

I know the Chinese lived side by side with the Khmers back during the Khmer Empire fine and all, but isn't Chun still used as the same for any other different type of Chinese ethnic group ? The old folks still use the word Chun for any different ethnic group of Chinese.


Chinese is a nationality since they are made up of many differen't ETHNIC groups. Han, Tai, Ueygers, Miao, Mien and so on. Those are ethnic groups, while a collective term is just "Chinese". Teochiew people identify with their dialect, but are still Han-Chinese.

As for Khmer being nationality, that is just a witless sarcasm of your's.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Aug 12 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]3867361[/snapback]
Chinese is a nationality since they are made up of many differen't ETHNIC groups. Han, Tai, Ueygers, Miao, Mien and so on. Those are ethnic groups, while a collective term is just "Chinese". Teochiew people identify with their dialect, but are still Han-Chinese.

As for Khmer being nationality, that is just a witless sarcasm of your's.


I don't know why your even in this seriously Goombaking209 your just an American you will never be a real Khmer as the Khmers in Srok Khmer lol. laugh.gif

I come on here to learn things from Khmer people from Srok Khmer, but hearing from a Cambodian American about all these things just sometimes irk me because your not even a true Khmer person from Srok Khmer as myself.

P.S. YOU ARE A CAMBODIAN AMERICAN ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT. laugh.gif
Goombaking209
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 12 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]3867383[/snapback]
I don't know why your even in this seriously Goombaking209 your just an American you will never be a real Khmer as the Khmers in Srok Khmer lol. laugh.gif

I come on here to learn things from Khmer people from Srok Khmer, but hearing from a Cambodian American about all these things just sometimes irk me because your not even a true Khmer person from Srok Khmer as myself.

P.S. YOU ARE A CAMBODIAN AMERICAN ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT. laugh.gif


At least I am able to converse with my Khmer brethrens worldwide using their native tongue and native script. Though we may see the world differently, we are not worlds apart. I don't care how much you hate them, but they are still my family and if you hate my family, you also hate me. Remember that!
Goombaking209
HOLD UP! Did I say you weren't true Khmer? You are the one telling us there's no such thing as true Khmer. Hell you don't even give your own ancestors enough credit, calling them monkey-like people who inbreded with Indian and Chinese people to make what we know as Khmer -- your view is totally that of a neighbor I dare not mention, maybe even worse.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Aug 12 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]3867445[/snapback]
HOLD UP! Did I say you weren't true Khmer? You are the one telling us there's no such thing as true Khmer. Hell you don't even give your own ancestors enough credit, calling them monkey-like people who inbreded with Indian and Chinese people to make what we know as Khmer -- your view is totally that of a neighbor I dare not mention, maybe even worse.


See what you don't see is that you have too much pride in what you are I am pretty sure that's how Khmer people even got to power too and it's because they had to combine all the different ethnic groups of Srok Khmer to fight off their invaders hence (combining the dark people and light people). There wouldn't be no Srok Khmer if there were only just Khmers there seriously. I got history books about the people during the Khmer Empire and such so I may want to see more of your sources.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Aug 12 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]3867425[/snapback]
At least I am able to converse with my Khmer brethrens worldwide using their native tongue and native script. Though we may see the world differently, we are not worlds apart. I don't care how much you hate them, but they are still my family and if you hate my family, you also hate me. Remember that!


Yet you still hate on Thais such as lemongrass calling him a Khmer traitor ? He's just as Khmer as us and your a god damn American what does that make you ? Our government the United States bombed the crap out of Cambodia how do you feel about that ? Don't you feel like a traitor yourself going to a country that killed 300,000 of your own people in Srok Khmer ? Your as racist as anyone else on this site honestly you call others racist and discriminative, but your no different from anyone else in this world honestly. Your religious beliefs have put you into shame.
Goombaking209
ទៅជាឆ្កួតហើយឬដឹងអាភ្លើនេះវើយ!

First of all: Lemongrass sees this world differently than I do. If he offends me, of course he's going to receive the same gesture. Its all a matter of missunderstanding the other's prospective most of the time anyway. We learn and let learn as this world is impermanent. I don't know why you calling me a traitor for, isn't it you who hate Khmers from Cambodia for paranoid non-reasonings? Please don't cut our Khmer ancestors achievement so short will ya? Even Siamese neighbors give them more credit than what you are doing now.

What the crap~!? I was born here fool. Needless to say I did not choose to be born as Khmer or in America, ah ler kuer. You act as if I approve of every little thing our government does, in fact is the opposite I'm quite apathetic towards US politics unless it involves California. I am strong willed enough to accept that my people are their own greatest enemies, so what... I accept the fact that our people were mere pawns to the game of chess the US had with the Russians, using Cambodia and Vietnam to best one another's legacy idiotic ideologies about communism/democracy. I accept the fact that our King father fu-ked us up in his power struggle drama's with Lon Nol. Khmer weakness is always stem from leadership but certainly with people like you us regular folks sure have our helping hand in weakening the unity of Khmer.

Don't even bring my religious beliefs into this discussion since you know nothing of it. I don't know what is more shameful ah Khmer-chen jrolawm s'orb puoch kluon aeng. Your world view is shaped by other people making you feel inferior because they were lighter than your own skin complex. Must you still carry this ominous view to this day? Don't know about what you allow but I'm not going to let ignorant Chinese or Vietnamese people make me believe my ancestors were stone-building monkey like they did to you. I'm truly sorry you have that view. I really am.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Aug 12 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]3867567[/snapback]
ទៅជាឆ្កួតហើយឬដឹងអាភ្លើនេះវើយ!

First of all: Lemongrass sees this world differently than I do. If he offends me, of course he's going to receive the same gesture. Its all a matter of missunderstanding the other's prospective most of the time anyway. We learn and let learn as this world is impermanent. I don't know why you calling me a traitor for, isn't it you who hate Khmers from Cambodia for paranoid non-reasonings? Please don't cut our Khmer ancestors achievement so short will ya? Even Siamese neighbors give them more credit than what you are doing now.

What the crap~!? I was born here fool. Needless to say I did not choose to be born as Khmer or in America, ah ler kuer. You act as if I approve of every little thing our government does, in fact is the opposite I'm quite apathetic towards US politics unless it involves California. I am strong willed enough to accept that my people are their own greatest enemies, so what... I accept the fact that our people were mere pawns to the game of chess the US had with the Russians, using Cambodia and Vietnam to best one another's legacy idiotic ideologies about communism/democracy. I accept the fact that our King father fu-ked us up in his power struggle drama's with Lon Nol. Khmer weakness is always stem from leadership but certainly with people like you us regular folks sure have our helping hand in weakening the unity of Khmer.

Don't even bring my religious beliefs into this discussion since you know nothing of it. I don't know what is more shameful ah Khmer-chen jrolawm s'orb puoch kluon aeng. Your world view is shaped by other people making you feel inferior because they were lighter than your own skin complex. Must you still carry this ominous view to this day? Don't know about what you allow but I'm not going to let ignorant Chinese or Vietnamese people make me believe my ancestors were stone-building monkey like they did to you. I'm truly sorry you have that view. I really am.


This still does not prove anything to my eyes, you say you see things differently, but that is BS seriously because you look down on Hip-Hop/Rap which is associated with black people and when I have said that Khmer people are stone-building monkeys ????? You are an idiot seriously putting words in my mouth because I'm pretty sure out of all the 400+ posts I have had on this site have I ever called my people stone-building monkeys ??? I live in a world far more different from yours because it will never be as dillusional as yours will be. Srok Khmer is the same way as of how it is in the Americas they will look down on your skin color, status, and such. The most funniest thing I have ever heard in my life is that you said Khmer people are peaceful people (yeah right). My views will never be wiped out by the Yuun and Chun people at least I fought for my people in the Americas unlike you who always stays in his house representing Khmer for no apparent good cause.

P.S. For the next generation to move forward you must have the people who are willing to die for the future of their people.
AsiaNETIK
To Goombaking209

Honestly man to me your nothing but a mere defenseless Khmer person on this site. You speak as if Khmer people will better themselves if they did not go into wars and such. What will Srok Khmer be if they didn't have those renagades/soldiers/thugs or whatever you may want to call them ? They are the ones who protected the country for so called 2000 years. All you do is talk seriously you do all your researching, but then again I bet you wouldn't even have the guts to protect your people at all with that mindset you have. My dad was a soldier in Srok Khmer and he fought the Khmer Rouge to at least weaken them. The reason why I have dissed Srok Khmer is because they look down on Khmer people in the Americas who dress in Hip-Hop clothes. I don't get the reason why they say we are wannabe blacks and such, but do you think it's better that I should dress in Khmer Kahom clothes instead since it's more authentic with the Khmer culture ? You speak as if every Khmer person who is in a gang in the Americas are nothing but mere pests to you, but what are you to those gang members ? You don't do anything to better this modern day age to better it for the next generation of your people. I don't know how it works in Stockton where I do know that Khmers are killing Khmers over colors and such, but in Oakland it was far more different then how it is over there in Stockton at least we still do fight to protect our own people. To me honestly all you do is yap and yap about the existence and knowledge you know about Srok Khmer and such, but what have you done to better it for the people who are still living in poverty and such and your still calling them wannabe thugs and such. Change is possible but change is also possible through time and you just need to let them have a little more time before you discriminate against the different types of Khmers in the Americas. The same goes for Srok Khmer who look down on their own people who live in a different country and I truly know it myself since I've experienced it along with others who have gone through it. Your views on Khmer gangs is based upon your own views thinking that they are not Khmer enough for you. They represent Khmer more then you do honestly because they have the will to fight and die for the name of Khmer. Like I said all you do is talk and I'm pretty sure there were never actions involved in your life for the name of Srok Khmer. Khmer people will always come in different varieties just like the Khmer Surin, Khmer Krom, Khmer Leur, Khmer Kandal, Khmer Americans they are always different from one another, but the thing that holds us all together is that we know who we are and what beliefs we believe in. I have my own reasons for why I dislike some Chun or Yuun people because I have gone through too much with them back in the past in the Americas, yeah maybe they could be different from Chun-Khmers in Srok Khmer but I have also dealt with some Khmer Krom people who look down on Khmer people. I am probably more different then you because it is easy for me to absorb all the negative things that have happened or happens now, but I am also able to let that go and learn from it. You just have a completely different view from mines because you did not go through any of the things most Khmer people in the USA had to go through back in the 80s-90s. When your a victim of racism and discrimination for over 20+ years it's a different story for the people who have always had it better then others. There were no good kids for me to associate with back in Oakland in school there were nothing but Khmer gangsters and thugs that I could associate something with. The city has always lived in poverty and violence and it will continue to stay the same until it changes in the far future. You don't understand me at all because you don't choose to understand why some Khmers wear Hip-Hop clothes and such and it's because if you were to wear those fobbish looking Khmer clothes from Srok Khmer what do you think all the other ethnic groups will do to those types of people ? You will only be the victim. There are Khmers who have engraved the Hip-Hop culture into their everyday lives, but who are you to tell them they are not Khmer enough to your eyes ? How can you see that they don't practice Khmer culture and beliefs at home with their parents ? How do you know they don't eat bai everyday at home and such ? How do you know that they don't have a Khmer flag hanging on their walls and such at home ? The thing I'm trying to get at is that all you do is talk and once in your life have you ever did anything to protect or do something with actions to better the lives of the Khmer people in America ? What have you done ? Are you only just telling people oh don't do this and don't do that ? Do you really think holding a Khmer person down from doing things is going to help ? Khmer people have always fought for their land and territories for a long time and they are still doing that at Preah Vihear temple and such. I bet on anything you wouldn't have the guts to die for the name of Cambodia since your too into this Khmer history/culture/heritage and such online. I do my researches and such online and with books, but I also know when there is also a reality to live by also.
lemongrass
QUOTE(applepannic @ Aug 12 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]3866007[/snapback]
Lemongrass, you are someone who acts and thinks like he is wiser than he really is. I've just pointed out that during the Preah Vihear issue, you claimed the Chinese were responsible for rousing up trouble amongst Thais and Khmer? How paranoid is that? And most of your "observation" is groundless, the hospital patient in Thailand were poor folks. You rushed to the conclusion that they were Chinese because you feel insecure!

Why do I get mad when you blame Chinese people? The same reason I get mad when someone starts getting paranoid about Koreans. It doesn't make me a wannabe, but the fact that these are the people helping Cambodia rebuild itself, and since you're not even going to be the least grateful than the Chun De Tlork are helping out, that annoys me since you're not Cambodian. I lived half of my life in Cambodia, and I grew up middle class but this middle class back then was poor. So it makes me proud that middle class like I was in Cambodia have more! They have more money and a better life so they actually want to live in their homeland.

You still haven't read that research paper and still bluffing your way through things. Once again you launch a personal attack against me. Do you have any reasoning to support your stand? Have I personally attacked you or called you names? I like to have your father's e-mail address so that I can have an adult conversation about how poorly he taught you manners.
Have I ever claimed to be wise or smart? I am a farmer and have very little educations. There you go again assuming things that you do not understand. I must have hit a nerve somewhere in your roots that hurt you so.
Kdaw_Tmaw
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 13 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]3867329[/snapback]
Were chun ? When have I said that ? Khmer people are a hybrid group of people. They weren't just Khmers were they ? I'm pretty sure we intermixed with so many crap back in the days, but they are ethnically mixed with Chinese the most from history. If you want to talk about the aboriginal people of Srok Khmer that's a different story since they were already there.

Asianetik, Khmer people are not mainly hybrid people. You must be referring to the Siems, but nonetheless, Khmers did mix with other ethnics (not crap), but not as widespread as Siems has. Khmers are homogeneous people, and yes we do have sino-khmers, but their number does not come close to ethnic Khmers currently living in Cambodia. So I find it hard to believe your claim that Khmer people are mostly mixed with other crap.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Kdaw_Tmaw @ Aug 13 2008, 07:17 AM) [snapback]3868090[/snapback]
Asianetik, Khmer people are not mainly hybrid people. You must be referring to the Siems, but nonetheless, Khmers did mix with other ethnics (not crap), but not as widespread as Siems has. Khmers are homogeneous people, and yes we do have sino-khmers, but their number does not come close to ethnic Khmers currently living in Cambodia. So I find it hard to believe your claim that Khmer people are mostly mixed with other crap.


Good that you have bold out the first part of my display name because if Srok Khmer never received the help and donations from other different Asian nations... honestly Srok Khmer would still live in a high rate of poverty, but don't get me wrong Srok Khmer is improving day by day.

P.S. I have every right to claim myself as Asian since I am not a so called pure Khmer anyways. Oh by the way isn't that avatar picture a Thai Apsara ? Isn't the artist named Koke ? I'm pretty sure it's not Khmer at all if there's going to be a Thai Apsara in there.
Kdaw_Tmaw
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 13 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]3868116[/snapback]
Good that you have bold out the first part of my display name because if Srok Khmer never received the help and donations from other different Asian nations... honestly Srok Khmer would still live in a high rate of poverty, but don't get me wrong Srok Khmer is improving day by day.

P.S. I have every right to claim myself as Asian since I am not a so called pure Khmer anyways.

I'm not even going to rebut you on this one because this is getting to a whole new topic.

I see no problem of you claiming yourself of whoever you chose as long as you are happy with yourself.
Kdaw_Tmaw
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 13 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]3868116[/snapback]
Good that you have bold out the first part of my display name because if Srok Khmer never received the help and donations from other different Asian nations... honestly Srok Khmer would still live in a high rate of poverty, but don't get me wrong Srok Khmer is improving day by day.

P.S. I have every right to claim myself as Asian since I am not a so called pure Khmer anyways. Oh by the way isn't that avatar picture a Thai Apsara ? Isn't the artist named Koke ? I'm pretty sure it's not Khmer at all if there's going to be a Thai Apsara in there.

Asianetik, I don't want to make you sound like a fool that you already are but before you start to claim my avatar drawing was drawn by a Thai guy, then perhaps you should of done more research from the beginning. Googling is not hard and surely you have heard of 'Reahu' the Khmer artist? So please, do not claim my avatar was drawn up by a Thai guy when you know nothing of it. You have already denied yourself being pure Khmer then don't deny my avatar as being pure Khmer either. Just stop already.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Kdaw_Tmaw @ Aug 13 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]3868206[/snapback]
Asianetik, I don't want to make you sound like a fool that you already are but before you start to claim my avatar drawing was drawn by a Thai guy, then perhaps you should of done more research from the beginning. Googling is not hard and surely you have heard of 'Reahu' the Khmer artist? So please, do not claim my avatar was drawn up by a Thai guy when you know nothing of it. You have already denied yourself being pure Khmer then don't deny my avatar as being pure Khmer either. Just stop already.


I inputted that in because there is an art drawn by the name of someone known as Koke who uses Khmer sculptures but the female Apsara is Thai. When have I said that the artist was Thai ? I said the female Apsara is Thai and not Khmer.

P.S. Your the fool for not reading too thoroughly.
Kdaw_Tmaw
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 13 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]3868248[/snapback]
I inputted that in because there is an art drawn by the name of someone known as Koke who uses Khmer sculptures but the female Apsara is Thai. When have I said that the artist was Thai ? I said the female Apsara is Thai and not Khmer.

First of all, the art was not drawn by a person name Koke. The actual artist name is Reahu. And finally, Thai Apsara are not topless and most Thai apsara adopted nearly identical Khmer Apsara features. Is the Apsara in my avatar covering up her breast like Thai apsara? Clearly, you cannot distinguish from a Khmer Apsara and Thai Apsara, so please stop assuming.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Kdaw_Tmaw @ Aug 13 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]3868259[/snapback]
First of all, the art was not drawn by a person name Koke. The actual artist name is Reahu. And finally, Thai Apsara are not topless and most Thai apsara adopted nearly identical Khmer Apsara features. Is the Apsara in my avatar covering up her breast like Thai apsara? Clearly, you cannot distinguish from a Khmer Apsara and Thai Apsara, so please stop assuming.


You act as if I can see your super small avatar picture on my screen I said it looks like the art drawn by Koke. I can assume anything that I want it's human nature for people to do or feel things. If you have a problem with it then correct it as of what you are now doing now and what gives you the right to tell me to stop assuming ? I can do what I want especially when this is the internet anyways.

P.S. I know that the Thai apsaras wear blouses and you think I've never seen the inscriptions of Khmer Apsaras topless on the walls of Angkor Wat before ?

EDIT - The avatar picture is actually drawn by the same guy I just researched it up it says Reahu_Koke_lor on one of his art... but i swear on anything he used a Thai celebrity on one of his art as an Apsara model on there... it's not even in the album along with a few other art I got from him before.

http://www.khmerxpress.com/multimedia/Phot...hu_Koke_Lor.htm
Kdaw_Tmaw
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 13 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]3868288[/snapback]
You act as if I can see your super small avatar picture on my screen I said it looks like the art drawn by Koke. I can assume anything that I want it's human nature for people to do or feel things. If you have a problem with it then correct it as of what you are now doing now and what gives you the right to tell me to stop assuming ? I can do what I want especially when this is the internet anyways.

P.S. I know that the Thai apsaras wear blouses and you think I've never seen the inscriptions of Khmer Apsaras topless on the walls of Angkor Wat before ?

EDIT - The avatar picture is actually drawn by the same guy I just researched it up it says Reahu_Koke_lor on one of his art... but i swear on anything he used a Thai celebrity on one of his art as an Apsara model on there... it's not even in the album along with a few other art I got from him before.

http://www.khmerxpress.com/multimedia/Phot...hu_Koke_Lor.htm

Thank you for doing your research. I must admit that I have never knew his name was also, Koke, because I have never seen the link you have provided. But in that webpage it does link to the webpage that I have always frequent. Reahu's Khmer Fantasy Art Webpage.

What makes you think that the Apsara in my avatar was drawn from a Thai model? I cannot find any details as to where the artist got his inspiration from when he made that drawing.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Kdaw_Tmaw @ Aug 13 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]3868380[/snapback]
Thank you for doing your research. I must admit that I have never knew his name was also, Koke, because I have never seen the link you have provided. But in that webpage it does link to the webpage that I have always frequent. Reahu's Khmer Fantasy Art Webpage.

What makes you think that the Apsara in my avatar was drawn from a Thai model? I cannot find any details as to where the artist got his inspiration from when he made that drawing.


Well my screen resolution is set at 1280x1024 so it's kinda hard for me to see avatars pretty clearly... The avatar picture just looks so similar to the art Reahu had drawn/painted before. I got the picture a few years ago I don't know how many years ago, but I do have a good memory of what I surf around for and such. I could be wrong if it was him that drew/painted the picture. I'll try and check my recorded CDR's to see if I can find the picture though although I highly doubt I saved that picture though. I like the site that you provided though he has more recent sketches and art that he has done while the other site is probably an outdated site of his work.

Well here's a picture of my desktop just to show you how hard it was for me to see the avatar picture you had before.



This will be my last post for this thread since all I'm doing is yapping off topic too much.
Goombaking209
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 12 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]3867609[/snapback]
This still does not prove anything to my eyes, you say you see things differently, but that is BS seriously because you look down on Hip-Hop/Rap which is associated with black people and when I have said that Khmer people are stone-building monkeys ????? You are an idiot seriously putting words in my mouth because I'm pretty sure out of all the 400+ posts I have had on this site have I ever called my people stone-building monkeys ??? I live in a world far more different from yours because it will never be as dillusional as yours will be. Srok Khmer is the same way as of how it is in the Americas they will look down on your skin color, status, and such. The most funniest thing I have ever heard in my life is that you said Khmer people are peaceful people (yeah right). My views will never be wiped out by the Yuun and Chun people at least I fought for my people in the Americas unlike you who always stays in his house representing Khmer for no apparent good cause.

P.S. For the next generation to move forward you must have the people who are willing to die for the future of their people.


Yeah I admit I don't like urban dress style (hip hop), but that doesn't mean I look down on it. embarassedlaugh.gif As for the stone-building monkies, you might as well just consider Khmers that since we are nothing had it not been for Chinese to interbrede with the Indians to make "Khmer". <sarcasm> Khmer people are peaceful, just because you grew up in a ghetto @$$ neighborhood does not mean Khmer people are generally violent because its not a distinguished trait, anyone can be violent based on the environment he or she grew up. You fought for your people in America? Over what, property you don't even OWN. At least while I'm in the house, I make something more for myself than what you call your so-called "achievement" which really means nothing beyond your street.

For the next generation to move on forward, you must secure a sustainable life for kids to develop and mature their potential. You're still living in the 80s ah pler.
Goombaking209
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To Goombaking209

Honestly man to me your nothing but a mere defenseless Khmer person on this site.


And what does that make you? A mere offenser of AF?

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You speak as if Khmer people will better themselves if they did not go into wars and such. What will Srok Khmer be if they didn't have those renagades/soldiers/thugs or whatever you may want to call them ? They are the ones who protected the country for so called 2000 years. All you do is talk seriously you do all your researching, but then again I bet you wouldn't even have the guts to protect your people at all with that mindset you have.


Is fighting all you do? Seriously what is that going to prove; nothing but your faked as pride cause that's all you got on the streets. I don't see that fake @$$ pride handing you a paycheck.

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My dad was a soldier in Srok Khmer and he fought the Khmer Rouge to at least weaken them. The reason why I have dissed Srok Khmer is because they look down on Khmer people in the Americas who dress in Hip-Hop clothes. I don't get the reason why they say we are wannabe blacks and such, but do you think it's better that I should dress in Khmer Kahom clothes instead since it's more authentic with the Khmer culture ?


Nobody cares how you dress, the more diversity the better. Just don't forget that you also have skaters, nerds, geeks who are your Khmer brothers as well.

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You speak as if every Khmer person who is in a gang in the Americas are nothing but mere pests to you, but what are you to those gang members ?


Honestly, they scare the fu-k out of me so I don't associate with them. What's wrong with that -- I don't care to socialize with a thug of any race.

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You don't do anything to better this modern day age to better it for the next generation of your people. I don't know how it works in Stockton where I do know that Khmers are killing Khmers over colors and such, but in Oakland it was far more different then how it is over there in Stockton at least we still do fight to protect our own people.


Calm your @$$ down, we aren't being hunted by the Vietnamese or Chinese. I notice that you love using this race card so much. Your race wars doesn't prove anything, your grades, academic achievement, community service means much much more. And it potentially can get you a job. Welfare doesn't count as a paycheck.

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To me honestly all you do is yap and yap about the existence and knowledge you know about Srok Khmer and such, but what have you done to better it for the people who are still living in poverty and such and your still calling them wannabe thugs and such. Change is possible but change is also possible through time and you just need to let them have a little more time before you discriminate against the different types of Khmers in the Americas.


I'm creating them and their kids a role model.

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The same goes for Srok Khmer who look down on their own people who live in a different country and I truly know it myself since I've experienced it along with others who have gone through it. Your views on Khmer gangs is based upon your own views thinking that they are not Khmer enough for you.


Not true. I forgive them for its not their fault their parent's didn't teach them enough about the Khmer Rouge and how they kill their own brothers like their kids are doing. Chop eachother up like animals how violently you do, you are still Khmer to me.

They represent Khmer more then you do honestly because they have the will to fight and die for the name of Khmer.

Really? They are wasting their parent's time just being born to die for no great cause or reason.

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Like I said all you do is talk and I'm pretty sure there were never actions involved in your life for the name of Srok Khmer.


So maintaining my culture doesn't count?

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Khmer people will always come in different varieties just like the Khmer Surin, Khmer Krom, Khmer Leur, Khmer Kandal, Khmer Americans they are always different from one another, but the thing that holds us all together is that we know who we are and what beliefs we believe in. I have my own reasons for why I dislike some Chun or Yuun people because I have gone through too much with them back in the past in the Americas, yeah maybe they could be different from Chun-Khmers in Srok Khmer but I have also dealt with some Khmer Krom people who look down on Khmer people. I am probably more different then you because it is easy for me to absorb all the negative things that have happened or happens now, but I am also able to let that go and learn from it.


Absolutely no excuse! If you forgive and forget, then why you still have such hideous view on life?

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You just have a completely different view from mines because you did not go through any of the things most Khmer people in the USA had to go through back in the 80s-90s. When your a victim of racism and discrimination for over 20+ years it's a different story for the people who have always had it better then others. There were no good kids for me to associate with back in Oakland in school there were nothing but Khmer gangsters and thugs that I could associate something with. The city has always lived in poverty and violence and it will continue to stay the same until it changes in the far future. You don't understand me at all because you don't choose to understand why some Khmers wear Hip-Hop clothes and such and it's because if you were to wear those fobbish looking Khmer clothes from Srok Khmer what do you think all the other ethnic groups will do to those types of people ? You will only be the victim. There are Khmers who have engraved the Hip-Hop culture into their everyday lives, but who are you to tell them they are not Khmer enough to your eyes ? How can you see that they don't practice Khmer culture and beliefs at home with their parents ? How do you know they don't eat bai everyday at home and such ? How do you know that they don't have a Khmer flag hanging on their walls and such at home ? The thing I'm trying to get at is that all you do is talk and once in your life have you ever did anything to protect or do something with actions to better the lives of the Khmer people in America ? What have you done ? Are you only just telling people oh don't do this and don't do that ? Do you really think holding a Khmer person down from doing things is going to help ? Khmer people have always fought for their land and territories for a long time and they are still doing that at Preah Vihear temple and such. I bet on anything you wouldn't have the guts to die for the name of Cambodia since your too into this Khmer history/culture/heritage and such online. I do my researches and such online and with books, but I also know when there is also a reality to live by also.


I think you are living too much in the past man. This is year 2008! My point is, better yourself for the image of your people and maybe we'd get some respect. Street Drama/gang war = Doesn't mean $hit in the working world.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Aug 13 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]3869107[/snapback]
And what does that make you? A mere offenser of AF?
Is fighting all you do? Seriously what is that going to prove; nothing but your faked as pride cause that's all you got on the streets. I don't see that fake @$$ pride handing you a paycheck.
Nobody cares how you dress, the more diversity the better. Just don't forget that you also have skaters, nerds, geeks who are your Khmer brothers as well.



Honestly, they scare the fu-k out of me so I don't associate with them. What's wrong with that -- I don't care to socialize with a thug of any race.



Calm your @$$ down, we aren't being hunted by the Vietnamese or Chinese. I notice that you love using this race card so much. Your race wars doesn't prove anything, your grades, academic achievement, community service means much much more. And it potentially can get you a job. Welfare doesn't count as a paycheck.
I'm creating them and their kids a role model.
Not true. I forgive them for its not their fault their parent's didn't teach them enough about the Khmer Rouge and how they kill their own brothers like their kids are doing. Chop eachother up like animals how violently you do, you are still Khmer to me.

They represent Khmer more then you do honestly because they have the will to fight and die for the name of Khmer.

Really? They are wasting their parent's time just being born to die for no great cause or reason.
So maintaining my culture doesn't count?



Absolutely no excuse! If you forgive and forget, then why you still have such hideous view on life?
I think you are living too much in the past man. This is year 2008! My point is, better yourself for the image of your people and maybe we'd get some respect. Street Drama/gang war = Doesn't mean $hit in the working world.

Well I broke my words about posting again.

You just don't get any of it do you ? It's because your still neglecting everything I say to you honestly. You don't want to understand anything and I don't care if you continue to think that your achievements are greater then others. I can achieve as much as you can and don't think you know me like I'm some welfare collecting freak because I'm pretty sure your mom was in that direction too along with other Khmer folks who came here as refugees. I have a job and I have a life also so you need to let alone all that crap you deceive others with. You can go ahead and maintain your culture all you want but to many Khmers who do actually live in the Americas have to do something about the current situations whether it's the streets or not they have at least done something rather then you who throws negative discriminative bs to them about their lifestyle. The thing that sickens me the most is that you think your better then everyone and say it with pride like your some super special person or some crap. I honestly don't care how much you know about Srok Khmer I learn as much as I can with the culture and our heritage, but I got other major skills to take care of that you probably have no clue about. As I said many times if you were that much of a good person to not discriminate or be racist you wouldn't say any crap in the first place, I've seen your other posts claiming you don't look down on others and such and blah blah blah, but I see you going behind your own words saying oh Siam is this Yuun is that and hip-hop is this and that. Before you talk down upon Khmers who wear Kmao clothes you better go through all the Khmer Krom people who wear Yuun clothes and such along with the Khmer Surin since they are probably both your worse enemies embarassedlaugh.gif. So how proud do you feel when you absorb all the things you know about Srok Khmer and such ? What benefits do you get out of it ? Are you going to make it a major for you to teach the younger generations of Khmers in the Americas to be Srok Khmerish ? Think again buddy because the mainstream in the Americas will probably still be Hip-Hop and such for the next generation to come. Last but not least the reason I defend people who are into the Hip-Hop/gangsta life is because ALL or MOST of my friends grew up with that whether they were good people or bad people they are my friends. Khmer had nothing to do with it as I grew up because I met many Chun/Yuun/Lao/Filipino/Mien/Mexican/Black/Puerto Rican and every other ethnic group you can think of who grew up with that lifestyle. I have many friends now who still continue to live that lifestyle because it's instilled in them now along with their Khmer culture. You talk crap about that lifestyle then it means your talking crap about my friends along with me that lived that lifestyle before. I don't care how much you THINK you know about this lifestyle, but honestly you don't dude.

P.S. The thing between you and me is that we're on the same tree but different branches.
Itsm3Yoshi
QUOTE(Kdaw_Tmaw @ Aug 13 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]3868206[/snapback]
Asianetik, I don't want to make you sound like a fool that you already are but before you start to claim my avatar drawing was drawn by a Thai guy, then perhaps you should of done more research from the beginning. Googling is not hard and surely you have heard of 'Reahu' the Khmer artist? So please, do not claim my avatar was drawn up by a Thai guy when you know nothing of it. You have already denied yourself being pure Khmer then don't deny my avatar as being pure Khmer either. Just stop already.

Perhaps he just needs to remove that fruity looking picture of his maybe most of his posts won't sound so foolish. Don't want to diss you Asianetik, but damm man I've read most of your post and it sounds hypocritical. Too make it short, it's hard to believe that you're born in Srok Khmer and now live in America, but you diss most people from Srok Khmer? Yet, you always talk about Khmer pride...etc. I have many relatives and friends. I don't recall most of them talking bad about Cambodians living in U.S. I do agree one thing though that most Khmer in U.S. compare to other asians in America has more thugs in U.S. Thats a fact of personal experience..etc.. ABZ/CBC/TRG? ring a bell?


applepannic
QUOTE(lemongrass @ Aug 13 2008, 05:50 AM) [snapback]3867870[/snapback]
You still haven't read that research paper and still bluffing your way through things. Once again you launch a personal attack against me. Do you have any reasoning to support your stand? Have I personally attacked you or called you names? I like to have your father's e-mail address so that I can have an adult conversation about how poorly he taught you manners.
Have I ever claimed to be wise or smart? I am a farmer and have very little educations. There you go again assuming things that you do not understand. I must have hit a nerve somewhere in your roots that hurt you so.


O.K Lemongrass, just remember you mentioned my name before I mention yours in this thread. I've read it, believe me or not its not as if I cared. My stand is that this paranoia, your paranoia about the Chinese is nothing good especially since every investment is a way out of poverty for many people in Cambodia. You have absolutely no backing that Khmer never leave there country for medical services, "because they want to die in their homeland." embarassedlaugh.gif Are you serious, the patients that Aero mentioned did not have any money nor were they there because they prefer to die on foreign soil, they were there because they preferred it if they didn't die. But you were the person to claim they were Chinese, isn't that true? I don't recall the Chinese waving Cambodian flags during the Preah Vihear dispute, but didn't you claim they were responsible for rousing up trouble?

Now, this is it. I don't respect your opinions because you're arrogant. Seriously? What have the Chinese done to us that we didn't do much worse to ourselves?

To those paranoid about the Koreans, seriously, what has the Koreans done to us at all?
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Itsm3Yoshi @ Aug 14 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]3871430[/snapback]
Perhaps he just needs to remove that fruity looking picture of his maybe most of his posts won't sound so foolish. Don't want to diss you Asianetik, but damm man I've read most of your post and it sounds hypocritical. Too make it short, it's hard to believe that you're born in Srok Khmer and now live in America, but you diss most people from Srok Khmer? Yet, you always talk about Khmer pride...etc. I have many relatives and friends. I don't recall most of them talking bad about Cambodians living in U.S. I do agree one thing though that most Khmer in U.S. compare to other asians in America has more thugs in U.S. Thats a fact of personal experience..etc.. ABZ/CBC/TRG? ring a bell?


Maybe you need to review it again because I never claimed I was born in Srok Khmer in the first place. In the otherhand does it look like I give a damn about those sets you just indicated ? Do yourself a favor and read some more of my posts throughout AF and not just my posts within this thread.

P.S. 21 posts ? Nice one mister troll.
Goombaking209
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 14 2008, 02:52 AM) [snapback]3869991[/snapback]
Well I broke my words about posting again.

You just don't get any of it do you ? It's because your still neglecting everything I say to you honestly. You don't want to understand anything and I don't care if you continue to think that your achievements are greater then others. I can achieve as much as you can and don't think you know me like I'm some welfare collecting freak because I'm pretty sure your mom was in that direction too along with other Khmer folks who came here as refugees. I have a job and I have a life also so you need to let alone all that crap you deceive others with. You can go ahead and maintain your culture all you want but to many Khmers who do actually live in the Americas have to do something about the current situations whether it's the streets or not they have at least done something rather then you who throws negative discriminative bs to them about their lifestyle. The thing that sickens me the most is that you think your better then everyone and say it with pride like your some super special person or some crap. I honestly don't care how much you know about Srok Khmer I learn as much as I can with the culture and our heritage, but I got other major skills to take care of that you probably have no clue about. As I said many times if you were that much of a good person to not discriminate or be racist you wouldn't say any crap in the first place, I've seen your other posts claiming you don't look down on others and such and blah blah blah, but I see you going behind your own words saying oh Siam is this Yuun is that and hip-hop is this and that. Before you talk down upon Khmers who wear Kmao clothes you better go through all the Khmer Krom people who wear Yuun clothes and such along with the Khmer Surin since they are probably both your worse enemies embarassedlaugh.gif . So how proud do you feel when you absorb all the things you know about Srok Khmer and such ? What benefits do you get out of it ? Are you going to make it a major for you to teach the younger generations of Khmers in the Americas to be Srok Khmerish ? Think again buddy because the mainstream in the Americas will probably still be Hip-Hop and such for the next generation to come. Last but not least the reason I defend people who are into the Hip-Hop/gangsta life is because ALL or MOST of my friends grew up with that whether they were good people or bad people they are my friends. Khmer had nothing to do with it as I grew up because I met many Chun/Yuun/Lao/Filipino/Mien/Mexican/Black/Puerto Rican and every other ethnic group you can think of who grew up with that lifestyle. I have many friends now who still continue to live that lifestyle because it's instilled in them now along with their Khmer culture. You talk crap about that lifestyle then it means your talking crap about my friends along with me that lived that lifestyle before. I don't care how much you THINK you know about this lifestyle, but honestly you don't dude.

P.S. The thing between you and me is that we're on the same tree but different branches.


I don't know about the gang lifestyle? I lived all around more than half of my life yet I don't know... All you guys ever fight about is colors and even kill your own race. Giving me fu-king dirty looks for wearing the wrong colors, GTFO of here just cause I wear a red T-shirt and happen to be in a crip infested neighborhood. Goodness now that I look back on it, you are taking too much credit for stuff you did no even do yourself. All these damn gang members ever did was hanging out in front of a garage smoking weed and drinking beer cause there's nothing better to do than getting wasted or doing homework or starting $hit with the neighbors for no god damn reason.

Seriously dude I don't really care for your current situation. Good for you that you got a job, now just drop the lowly gang-related lifestyle you defend so much, much like the other gang members who earn an honest wage and clean up. Also, can you please grow up? The older you get, the more exansive your world view should unfold. The world is a panorama that makes life beautiful, not some 2-d sqaured map that's black and white.

Also, you think I look down on you for your attributes but that has no bearing on why I look down on you. Lets put this simple. You look down on your own Khmer ancestors, which is why I don't take lightly to the bull$hit you spew out of your mouth. It has nothing to do with your over-sized clothes or your 30 lbs heavy chains, bling bling, or your grillz.

Don't take offense to my preferences, I just don't like being around people who make me feel unsafe is all.
Itsm3Yoshi
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 15 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]3872729[/snapback]
Maybe you need to review it again because I never claimed I was born in Srok Khmer in the first place. In the otherhand does it look like I give a damn about those sets you just indicated ? Do yourself a favor and read some more of my posts throughout AF and not just my posts within this thread.

P.S. 21 posts ? Nice one mister troll.


Troll? hahaha aite fruitcake. Looks like your avatar fit that perfectly big dawg! 21 post so what I don't spend most of my time here so whats your point mang
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Aug 15 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]3873152[/snapback]
I don't know about the gang lifestyle? I lived all around more than half of my life yet I don't know... All you guys ever fight about is colors and even kill your own race. Giving me fu-king dirty looks for wearing the wrong colors, GTFO of here just cause I wear a red T-shirt and happen to be in a crip infested neighborhood. Goodness now that I look back on it, you are taking too much credit for stuff you did no even do yourself. All these damn gang members ever did was hanging out in front of a garage smoking weed and drinking beer cause there's nothing better to do than getting wasted or doing homework or starting $hit with the neighbors for no god damn reason.

Seriously dude I don't really care for your current situation. Good for you that you got a job, now just drop the lowly gang-related lifestyle you defend so much, much like the other gang members who earn an honest wage and clean up. Also, can you please grow up? The older you get, the more exansive your world view should unfold. The world is a panorama that makes life beautiful, not some 2-d sqaured map that's black and white.

Also, you think I look down on you for your attributes but that has no bearing on why I look down on you. Lets put this simple. You look down on your own Khmer ancestors, which is why I don't take lightly to the bull$hit you spew out of your mouth. It has nothing to do with your over-sized clothes or your 30 lbs heavy chains, bling bling, or your grillz.

Don't take offense to my preferences, I just don't like being around people who make me feel unsafe is all.


Don't think you know the way how Khmer people dress like in Oakland because that's nowhere near the way how any of them even dressed like back then.. there you go again with your talk like you know something.

P.S. That's no wonder why these Khmer thugs or gangsters whip and rob people like you and it's because you still think your better. Your the one who's setting yourself as an easy target.

QUOTE(Itsm3Yoshi @ Aug 15 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]3873187[/snapback]
Troll? hahaha aite fruitcake. Looks like your avatar fit that perfectly big dawg! 21 post so what I don't spend most of my time here so whats your point mang


You are a troll moron and how old are you seriously ? Mang ? Big Dawg ? I don't recall ever using those slangs back in my days. I spend most of my time in these forums because I have no life ? 1 Post per night doesn't hurt mister BIG DAWG. embarassedlaugh.gif
Goombaking209
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 18 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]3877179[/snapback]
Don't think you know the way how Khmer people dress like in Oakland because that's nowhere near the way how any of them even dressed like back then.. there you go again with your talk like you know something.

P.S. That's no wonder why these Khmer thugs or gangsters whip and rob people like you and it's because you still think your better. Your the one who's setting yourself as an easy target.



You are a troll moron and how old are you seriously ? Mang ? Big Dawg ? I don't recall ever using those slangs back in my days. I spend most of my time in these forums because I have no life ? 1 Post per night doesn't hurt mister BIG DAWG. embarassedlaugh.gif


I don't know about Oakland. I think I said this many times, but I talk in regards to Stockton, ah pluer. So you actually think its ok for Khmer thugs to pilfer and rob and harass their own kind? You're no better than the Khmer rouge who chased your family to live in Thailand fool.
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