QUOTE(Altaic Supremacist @ Aug 18 2008, 04:19 PM)

Still doesn't sound that great to me. Most civilizations were kind of primitive back then. In the 13th century, everyone thought huge empires of the Old World were over. Plus, Genghis had to deal with the advanced Chinese and Islamic empires, Hindustan, as well as the Kievan state and European knights. These people were savages in 300 BC while they were quite advanced civilizations by the 13th century, and G.K. whooped them all with just bows, arrows, and horses. I still don't see why Alexander is great.
If anything since everyone was more primitive back in Alexanders days it would have been more easier for Alexander to conquer primitive people so what ghenghis khan did was even greater plus he conquered a lot more land and people so im not sure how titaniums logic justifies the bias in that way. Its like how Richard the Lionheart is a 'Lionheart' for what taking 1 or two cities in arabia? GHenghis Khan took 100s of 1000s.
In regards to the inherent bias, its funny you would mention this anti asian bias whilst you claim the only people to defeat mongols where fellow steppe people like mumluks and bulgarians.
While you say this you claim it was the only others where 'pesky' vietnamese and ridiculous japanese who prayed for miracle to happen like there victory of the mongols is something lesser or stupid compared to the bulgarians or egyptians. Egyptian victory over mongols was over an expedition force or small garrison force, it cant really be considereed a victory. I dont know about this bulgarian vicotory over mongols. Vietnamese victory over mongols was absolutet and total, they did it twice against a full army not a small garrison force yet you deride it for being ridiculous drawing on asian derogatory images of small 'pesky' little g@@ks. And with Japanese praying for a miracle, mongol superstituion played a role in thier wars as well, Ghenghis Khan consulted the shaman before decideing whether to go to war with Persia. The Shaman split a bone and decided on whether to go to war on the way it broke!
It really shows when they try to link themselves with Hungarians, Turkish, Bulgarians, Russians (and no they arnt nomads) and try and distance themselves from these inferior little asian weaklings. Tsk tsk even the Hazara mongolians are treated just like chinaman in Afganistan by the Aryan Pastun and Hazara look less ch1nky than pure mongols, mongols have no fans and are despised just like us asians in western lands in Russia. get real.
I notice this bias against asians most in the mongol forum, you being no exception. Its a typical asian trait, i guess mongols are typical asians after all

Your a fellow ch1ink, deal with it.