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Narra
why filipino are into Spanish culture?!

ask them...

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DivadNhoj
QUOTE(Narra @ Aug 8 2008, 08:47 AM) *
why filipino are into Spanish culture?!

ask them...

Korea

Spanish Romance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZCb5e6UwE



Que Sera Sera Opening Credit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCFg8YfLdL4



Gracias A La Vida (Thank You Life)


I'm Filipino and I'm NOT into Spanish culture. Generalization -- don't play that game.
Kiss_the_Girls
wtf?? do you mean..You make it sound like this is something new when this has been going on for how many 100s of years..
flipcombatmedic
This is Narra guys. embarassedlaugh.gif
*promo
fu-king moron...

u just beat out speedy in the stupid race.
JeanYus
Filipinos are into Spanish culture?

So where are the bullfighting stadiums, selling oranges on the side of the road, lawn care service attendants and hydraulic low riders with candy apple paint jobs? laugh.gif
Narra
also the football mania... other nation are reli ino it (Latin Fever) including America, Japan & Taiwan

Cher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY65Hi6xjAI

Madonna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHZDjO_DlSI

Spice Girls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhkLKsr_NsE
Narra
theyre not thaT SUPERIOR!!!

Spain Country History
YEAR EVENT
about 1100-1000 BC Phoenicians began colonizing Spain. Modern cities such as Cádiz and Málaga were founded by the Phoenicians around this time.
400s BC The Carthaginians conquered much of Spain.
200s BC Spain became an important part of the Roman Empire following the Punic Wars.
AD 573 The Visigoths completed their conquest of the Iberian Peninsula.
711-718 The Moors conquered most of Spain. Many Spaniards converted to Islam, and Moorish culture began to flourish.
1000s The Christian reconquest of Spain began.
1479 Aragón and Castile were united under Ferdinand V and Isabella I. The following year the Spanish Inquisition was established.
1492 The Kingdom of Granada was conquered, ending Moorish rule in Spain. Christopher Columbus initiated Spanish claims in the Americas, where Spain quickly established a huge colonial empire.
1512 The Kingdom of Navarre was absorbed into the unified Kingdom of Spain. Spanish culture flourished and Spain became a world power.
1588 The English navy defeated the Spanish Armada, beginning a period of slow decline for Spain.
1714 Britain gained Gibraltar from Spain.
1808 Napoleon I of France invaded Spain and captured Madrid. Spanish, English, and Portuguese forces did not drive the French from Spain until 1814.
1810-1825 Most of Spain's American colonies won their independence.
1898 Spain lost the rest of its important overseas possessions following the Spanish-American War.
1931 King Alfonso XIII fled from Spain, and the country became a republic.
1936-1939 Spanish Nationalist forces led by General Francisco Franco defeated Republican forces during the Spanish Civil War.
1968 Buoyed by strong economic growth, the government eased censorship restrictions. Protests erupted in Barcelona and Madrid, and regional separatist groups gained strength.
1975 Franco died and was succeeded by King Juan Carlos. Spain became a constitutional monarchy.
1980s Spain joined the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the European Community (now the European Union), increasing its ties with the rest of Europe.
1992 Barcelona hosted XXV Olympic Games.
1994 Spain threatened to block expansion of the European Union until a compromise guaranteed protection of Spanish fishing rights.
1996 Following a general election the conservative Popular Party, led by José María Aznar, formed a new government, bringing to an end 13 years of rule by the Socialist Workers' Party.
1999 Spain became a founder member of the single European currency, the Euro.
2000 Renewed campaign of violence by ETA. Popular Party won general election led by José María Aznar.
2002 Introduction of Euro notes and coins. Dispute with Morocco over the outcrop of Leila Perejil off the Moroccan coast. Both sides agreed to leave island unoccupied. In November the oil tanker Prestige broke up off the north-west coast of Spain, leading to an oil spillage and ecological disaster.
2004 In March, 200 people were killed in a series of explosions aboard rush-hour trains in the capital, Madrid. A general election held a few days later saw victory for the Socialists under José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero.

ham_let
LOLOMG.

Well, to all those non Filipinos reading this thread... take all of this with a grain of salt.
martin_nuke
Why is the Philippines in part of the Latin Union?
iyahcure
cause dem not proud to be asian.


j/k,lol.
Selkies
QUOTE(iyahcure @ Sep 4 2008, 02:45 PM) *
cause dem not proud to be asian.
j/k,lol.


Yep because we are trying to be cool and special trying to be different from the rest of SE asian countries. Even african countries joined those neggers think they are latinos too. embarassedlaugh.gif beerchug.gif biggthumpup.gif
LazyAzian
Filipino Culture is heavily influenced by Spanish culture - but it's Asian.

The Philippines, as many historians say, is where East meets the West.

It's only natural for Philippines to be in the Latin Union - if we weren't who would be able to read the 13 Million Spanish documents.

Many historians would agree with me if I say this, and if you don't believe me, ask a historian - it's best to read history is it's original language.

So English translations of Noli mi Tangere are seriously not a good way to learn 400 years of colonial history.

Ask a French historian to read Les Miserables in English - you would be denied - for they say, one can only know the true value and meaning of something in its original form.

No wonder Intramuros is a mess, it's former Chiefs didn't even speak a lick of Spanish - only the recent Chief speaks fluent Spanish and the Ayuntamiento, San Ignacio Church and the old Ateneo de Manila reconstruction building plans are already on the way!

In Cebu alone, an American professor is one of the few who actually reads deep in to the historic archives because it's in Spanish.
Narra
United States Country History
YEAR EVENT
1565 Spain founded the first permanent European settlement in what is now the United States at St Augustine, Florida. Native Americans had lived on the continent for thousands of years.
1607
The first permanent British settlement in America was established at Jamestown, Virginia.
1763 Britain gained control of eastern North America at the end of the Seven Years’ War, known in America as the French and Indian War.
1770s Boston became a centre of growing American discontent with British rule, and the American War of Independence began nearby in 1775.
1776 The Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence at Philadelphia.
1781 American forces decisively defeated the British at the Siege of Yorktown. Two years later, Britain recognized American independence in the Treaty of Paris.
1787 The Constitutional Congress met in Philadelphia and wrote the Constitution of the United States. All 13 states ratified the Constitution by 1790.
1803 The United States nearly doubled in size after President Thomas Jefferson acquired the territory of Louisiana from France in a transaction known as the Louisiana Purchase.
1812-1815 The War of 1812 between Britain and the United States ended inconclusively.
1823 In the Monroe Doctrine, President James Monroe warned Europeans against interfering in the affairs of any country in the western hemisphere.
1848 The United States gained large amounts of territory as a result of winning the Mexican War. The new land, coupled with the acquisition of the Oregon country in 1846, extended the western border of the United States to the Pacific Ocean.
1861 Several Southern slave states seceded in January and formed the Confederate States of America. The American Civil War broke out in April.
1865 The Confederacy surrendered, bringing an end to the Civil War. Slavery was abolished throughout the United States. President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated.
1867 America purchased Alaska from Russia.
1868 Andrew Johnson became the first president to be impeached by the House of Representatives.
1870-1890 The last Native Americans were defeated by government forces and pushed on to reservations.
1886 The American Federation of Labor was formed to fight for workers in an increasingly industrialized country.
1898 The United States won the Spanish-American War and gained territories in the Caribbean and the Pacific. Hawaii was annexed the same year.
1914 The United States completed construction of the Panama Canal, providing a link between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
1917-1918 The United States fought in World War I.
1920 Women gained the right to vote. The manufacture and sale of alcohol was banned, ushering in the era of Prohibition.
1929 Wild speculation led to a stock market crash, triggering the Great Depression.
1933 Franklin Roosevelt became president and introduced a series of economic and social reforms known as the New Deal. Prohibition was repealed.
1941 Japan attacked US forces at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, drawing the United States into World War II.
1945 The United Nations was established in San Francisco.
1947 The Truman Doctrine was established to help nations resist Soviet influence. Anti-communist tensions escalated as the Cold War began.
1950-1953 US troops fought in the Korean War.
1962 The United States and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics narrowly avoided nuclear war during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
1964 The Civil Rights Act was passed by Congress.
1964-1973 American forces fought in the Vietnam War, which sparked widespread protests in the United States.
1969 American astronauts became the first people to land on the Moon.
1974 In the wake of the Watergate scandal, Richard Nixon became the first American president to resign from office.
1983 Ronald Reagan ordered the invasion of Grenada.
1986 Libya was bombed in response to heightened terrorism.
1990-1991 US forces led a multinational coalition against Iraq during the Persian Gulf War, marking the end of the Cold War.
1992 Riots exploded in Los Angeles as the city became a flashpoint for racial tensions.
1993 The US Congress approved the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico.
1994 The mid-term elections gave the Republicans overall control of both the House of Representatives and Senate for the first time in four decades.
1995 A huge car bomb, planted by extremists, exploded outside a government building in Oklahoma City in April killing 168 people and injuring over 400.
1996 A TWA flight from New York to Paris exploded in mid-air shortly after leaving JFK airport. All 238 people on board were killed.
1998 US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya bombed. In December Bill Clinton became only the second president to face impeachment by the House of Representatives.
2000 George W. Bush won a controversial presidential election after legal challenges by Vice-President Al Gore over the result in Florida.
2001 Bush sworn in as new president. Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma bomber, was executed in June. On September 11, thousands were killed in New York after terrorists hi-jacked two airliners and crashed them into the World Trade Center's twin towers. A further plane crashed into the Pentagon in Washington causing hundreds more deaths. A fourth plane crash-landed. In retaliation the US led air strikes on Afghanistan and its government—the Taliban—who were believed to be sheltering the perpetrator of the September 11 and other terrorist outrages, Osama bin Laden. In December, the energy company Enron filed for bankruptcy, the largest corporate bankruptcy in US history.
2002 State of the Union address controversy over President Bush's claims that Iran, Iraq, and North Korea form an "axis of evil"—countries that possess missiles capable of delivering weapons of mass destruction. In July WorldCom, the US telecoms giant, became bankrupt: the biggest business failure in US history. In November, legislation was passed to create a new Department of Homeland Security to protect against terrorist attacks.
2003 United States moved armed forces into the Gulf region, preparing for an attack on Iraq. The space shuttle Columbia broke up upon re-entering Earth's atmosphere; all seven astronauts were killed. In March aerial bombing campaign on Baghdad was launched, followed by an armed invasion. War declared over in May, although reconstruction of the country proved difficult, with the United States suffering more casualties due to guerilla warfare than in the military campaign.
2004 President Bush announced inquiry into pre-war intelligence claims of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Narra
Philippines Country History
YEAR EVENT
Pre-AD c. 400 Migrations into the islands from China, the Malay Peninsula, the Indonesian archipelago, and other parts of South-East Asia. New Filipino civilization emerged from the mixture of cultures.
1200s Spread of Islam.
1400s Maintenance of commercial and diplomatic relations with the Chinese Ming dynasty.
1521 Country discovered by Portuguese navigator Ferdinand Magellan.
1542 Spanish expedition claimed islands and named them the Philippine Islands.
1564 Permanent settlement established and Spanish power over the islands increased. Conversion to Roman Catholicism.
1572
Manila established as the administrative centre.
1821 Upon the overthrow of Spanish rule in Mexico, the Philippines were put directly under the administrative control of Madrid.
1892 Beginning of independence movement.
1896 Following the execution of José Rizal, leader of the independence movement, the insurrectionists began armed hostilities.
1897 Reinforcements from Spain weakened the rebellion.
1898 Pact signed guaranteeing Spanish reforms within three years. US ended Spanish-American War by defeating Spanish forces in the Battle of Manila on August 13. Independent republic proclaimed. Spain cede the Philippines to the US in the Treaty of Paris. US military rule established, which the insurgents, led by Emilio Aguinaldo, refused to acknowledge.
1899
Hostilities led to guerrilla warfare.
1901 Aguinaldo captured.
1902 End of the insurrection. US civil government replaced the military.
1903-1934 Movement for independence.
1935 New constitution established the country as a commonwealth of the US, and paved the way for full independence.
1941 Invaded and occupied by the Japanese in World War II.
1944-1945 Liberation by US forces.
1946 The Republic of the Philippines formally proclaimed on July 4.
1947 US awarded land for military bases.
1955 Peace treaty with Japan.
1957 Communist Party outlawed and surrender of many of the Huk rebels.
1965 Ferdinand Marcos elected president.
1972 Following guerrilla opposition and civil unrest, Marcos declared a state of martial law and thereafter ruled by decree.
1981 Martial law ended but dictatorial rule continued. Growth of opposition to the regime.
1983 Assassination of opposition leader, Benigno Aquino.
1986 Marcos was re-elected president but reports that he won through fraud stirred a revolt, the EDSA Revolution, and he was forced to flee the country.
1987 Corazon Aquino, Benigno's widow, took over as president and a new constitution was instituted.
1989 Coup attempt suppressed with the help of the US Air Force.
1992 Aquino's successor, Fidel Valdez Ramos, elected president in May. Last US Air Base closed.
1996 Peace agreement signed with the Muslim Moro National Liberation Front, a chief insurgent group. Ramos constitutionally prevented from running for a second presidential term.
1998 After renewed fighting a new agreement was signed with the Muslim Moro National Liberation Front. The incumbent vice-president, Joseph Estrada, elected president.
2000 Estrada impeached by the House of Representatives on charges of corruption and embezzlement.
2001 Collapse of Estrada's impeachment trial. Estrada forced to resign by popular protest, and was replaced as president by Gloria Arroyo. Estrada arrested in April. Tropical storm Lingling killed hundreds.
LazyAzian
^

I don't get what your trying to say.

But I can say one thing, which many Filipino history enthusiasts agree:

Philippines is lacking Historians that can study 80% of the documents regarding Filipino history - The Spanish Era.

Most Philippine historians focus on pre-Hispanic and the American Colonial Era simply because of one thing: unable to speak Spanish.

That's one of the reasons why, despite 333 years of colonization, compared to the South Americans - we know VERY little of the Spanish era. 13 Million documents of our heritage slowly fading into dust in the National Archives.

That's why, I agree with GMA's plan: Re-instate courses/subjects in Filipino universities and schools for the Spanish language, as it is spoken in Spain.

It won't be compulsory, just an elective - if you want to be major in Spanish, you can major in it. So far only one University in Philippines has a major in Spanish - Ateneo de Manila.

It's only natural for a Filipino to learn Spanish - that language was already and still is part of our culture. In some ways, you would be helping revive a big part of our culture that was degraded by the Americans and Marcos.
Suzuka00
QUOTE(LazyAzian @ Sep 12 2008, 06:18 PM) *
^

I don't get what your trying to say.

But I can say one thing, which many Filipino history enthusiasts agree:

Philippines is lacking Historians that can study 80% of the documents regarding Filipino history - The Spanish Era.

Most Philippine historians focus on pre-Hispanic and the American Colonial Era simply because of one thing: unable to speak Spanish.

That's one of the reasons why, despite 333 years of colonization, compared to the South Americans - we know VERY little of the Spanish era. 13 Million documents of our heritage slowly fading into dust in the National Archives.

That's why, I agree with GMA's plan: Re-instate courses/subjects in Filipino universities and schools for the Spanish language, as it is spoken in Spain.

It won't be compulsory, just an elective - if you want to be major in Spanish, you can major in it. So far only one University in Philippines has a major in Spanish - Ateneo de Manila.

It's only natural for a Filipino to learn Spanish - that language was already and still is part of our culture. In some ways, you would be helping revive a big part of our culture that was degraded by the Americans and Marcos.

We should retrieve our pre-colonial history as well because it stretches more than the time of the spanish
GarethEsutera
QUOTE(LazyAzian @ Sep 13 2008, 07:18 AM) *
That's one of the reasons why, despite 333 years of colonization, compared to the South Americans - we know VERY little of the Spanish era. 13 Million documents of our heritage slowly fading into dust in the National Archives.


Dude, you are giving too much focus on that particular part of history.

In fact, more than half our history lessons is about Spanish colonization. It is as if our history started during that time.

We need to study more about pre-Hispanic era. We already not much elaborate records about the coming of the Sultanate. I am particularly interested with our interactions with empires of Sri Vijaya and Majapahit, as well as the attempts of Emperor Yung Lo of China to conquer our land. These things were only mentioned in one or three sentences in history textbooks.
Suzuka00
QUOTE(GarethEsutera @ Sep 13 2008, 02:29 AM) *
Dude, you are giving too much focus on that particular part of history.

In fact, more than half our history lessons is about Spanish colonization. It is as if our history started during that time.

We need to study more about pre-Hispanic era. We already not much elaborate records about the coming of the Sultanate. I am particularly interested with our interactions with empires of Sri Vijaya and Majapahit, as well as the attempts of Emperor Yung Lo of China to conquer our land. These things were only mentioned in one or three sentences in history textbooks.

I agree.
LazyAzian
I'm not saying in any way that people should stop or not focus in studying pre-colonial Philippines, it should be studied continuously.

Yes the pre-colonial times stretches farther in time, but that's not the main focus in Filipino history.

When you say Filipino History, that means anything surrounding the events leading to the creation of Philippines.

When did Philippines appear and written as one archipelago? The Spanish Era. Which makes sense why half of our history intertwines with the Spanish.

SO yes, technically, the history of Philippines as a country started in the Spanish era.

Before the Spaniards arrived, there was no dynasties or countries in Philippines. There was no Philippines.

Pre-colonial Philippines wasn't a "Muslim State" like many of you seem to believe, about %80 of us were animist and tribes that roamed around in free islands - no countries.

It's only in some parts in Mindanao that the closest thing to a Sultanate/Kingdom existed.

Lapu Lapu wasn't Muslim either (>_>).

Anything pre-colonial only gets few tidbits in Filipino history books because they aren't technically Filipino.

Those kinds of studies would be put in a different category, like Ancient History maybe.

It's like how in Mexico their history focus mainly in the Spanish Era also, while anything before the Spanish era are categorized as Mayan or Aztec History, etc.

It's like in Philippines, maybe like "Ancient Sugbo Studies" for Cebu instead of "Pre-colonial Filipino Studies." It has to be specific since there was different tribes living in different mini-kingdom-like places, you can't put it in a singular form.
Balot
im sorry im kinda lost here
liambleu
lol

we should rather focus on our pre-spanish origins
because that was the least documented part of our history
particularly the heavy indian and chinese influences on
pre-islamic and pre-spanish filipino tribal cultures

but if learning spanish would help us read the archives
that may contain pre-colonial history let's learn it

id really like to know the new school of thought that
the southern chinese people populated the philippines
then populated borneo and the rest of the malay islands
Paula21
its because we are colonized by Spain.. icon_smile.gif
NeoVxR
if we can say this is also about cultural development and cultural shift of paradigm, then I would like to share some observations.

in europe, we have a few channels that are focusing on world wide culture and arts.
increasingly they have documentaries about indigenous trends and movements.
also there are features about philippine population groups and their plights and habits, very positive and sympathetic, though telling about serious hardships..

recently there were docus about pre-spanish research and civil movements in central and south america.
e.g. the ancient writings of the maya have been deciphered, and now their history can be understood, which gives a big boost to the mexican and guatemaltec descendants of the maya tribes, in terms of self-consciousness and their desire to develop a genuine political expression of their life and culture.

add this to the political shift in venezuela and bolivia, where indigenous peoples are regaining control of their lives, natural resources and environment.

add this to the modern education and propaganda in central europe, all about democracy and freedom, plus the global proliferation of the "political correctness" and human rights thing. let's reclaim that for everyone, not only for the noble bandwagon.
this creates a discussion where many, esp. younger people speak in favor of the indigenous citizens, and against the old, far-rightwing white elites. spanish interests are not considered important or too justified.
political elites (ruling houses, established party leaders...) have little joy with grassroots opinion.

so, perhaps can we consider pre-spanish studies and agendas in the philippines as kind of "indigenous" movements?
they can find world-wide attention and support, if wisely seeking the right connections.


but I would recommend that focus is not put on a "common enemy" but on knowledge, positive traits, and advantage for building a more successful future.
the landlords and corporate owners are still leaning on nationalist identity, but they use it as a source of power (among their cronies etc) while having since long melted into a global sociopolitic structure.
so better focus on the flaws of the structure than inflating the nationalist clashes.
though some policies are very helpful for the progress of the indigenous majority, the inflaming nationalist speeches of chavez and friends will eventually have to calm down.
(everyone has his own nationalism in that game and it is eating up so much positive energy)


filipino movements about justice and development might want to join forces with pre-spanish interest groups also in latin america, but better seek knowledge and competitive skills, so to challenge and defeat post-colonial structures, independent of their ethnic or national origin, be it british, german, spanish, or american, rather than just fous on direct ethnic enmity. ordinary people of indigenous, filipino and white origin nowadays have no reason to be hostile against each other. in fact they are played against each other so the old structures can continue, that have no answer to the rising problems in the world.

from my observation, the pre-spanish cultures on both sides of the pacific ocean have very relevant traits, skills and world views, that can be developed towards modern level, and they will be very much required to solve our problems, that are to the greater part problems in human interaction, compassion and solidarity.
one of these traits would be inclusive reasoning instead of dialectic/binary logic.

I don't think at all the christian belief should be abandoned, no misunderstanding please, but it should be maintained in a genuine way that is in harmony with the local cultures, and be stripped of any imperialist influence.
also it shouldn't be mandatory or seen as the only legit world view..

I hope these thoughts, if adopted, can contribute to peaceful development on grassroots and also middle class level.
masipag2
NeoVxR

A very interesting reading indeed!

masipag2
QUOTE(Narra @ Aug 8 2008, 08:47 AM) *
why filipino are into Spanish culture?!

ask them...

Korea

Spanish Romance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZCb5e6UwE



Que Sera Sera Opening Credit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCFg8YfLdL4



Gracias A La Vida (Thank You Life)


Is it just me, or does this look like a well calculated propaganda bomb, aimed at ignorance and prejudges?
And better yet, have you any evidence to justify your claims?

i cant just post pictures and a statement, and expect people to actually listen, let alone believe my claims ...
If people do that, i could only imagine ridicule coming their way, it seems plainly obvious that such strategies are outdated ...
nightvisiongoggles
QUOTE(Narra @ Aug 8 2008, 09:47 PM) *
why filipino are into Spanish culture?!

ask them...

Korea

Spanish Romance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZCb5e6UwE



Que Sera Sera Opening Credit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCFg8YfLdL4



Gracias A La Vida (Thank You Life)



huh?
korean soaps, and then you ask why 'filipino are' into spanish culture?
...
filipinos are asians with a spanish heritage and american tastes, if that's one way of describing us.
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