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Dante
Which one is better if you plan to go to graduate school i.e dentistry, pharm, med etc...

What can you go with a Science degree vs. an engineering deg?
BrooklynCarter
science degree
population1
science degree.
checkers11
People answered it already.
BrooklynCarter
^ exactly.. lol


lots of.. "e"
InitialDJay
engineer will get you a nice blue collar job.

but science will get you further in career, probably a wealthy blue collar job.

both are good, but science is better. beerchug.gif
ham_let
QUOTE(InitialDJay @ Aug 11 2008, 02:58 AM) [snapback]3863560[/snapback]
engineer will get you a nice blue collar job.

but science will get you further in career, probably a wealthy blue collar job.

both are good, but science is better. beerchug.gif

icon_neutral.gif do you even know what engineers do? you talk about them as if they're mechanics or some $hit embarassedlaugh.gif
Lint
QUOTE(|)anté @ Aug 10 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]3861276[/snapback]
Which one is better if you plan to go to graduate school i.e dentistry, pharm, med etc...

What can you go with a Science degree vs. an engineering deg?


To answer your first question: Science Degree

To answer your second question: Science = nowhere (unless you're a fricken genius or a con artist) Engineering = everywhere (unless you do something stupid like software engineering embarassedlaugh.gif )
BirdFeed
QUOTE(ham_let @ Aug 11 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]3863612[/snapback]
icon_neutral.gif do you even know what engineers do? you talk about them as if they're mechanics or some $hit embarassedlaugh.gif

lol! i know right

sheesh, people who act like they're older than they are
ThePunisher
frankly i dont know exactly,but so far from what i have seen,engineers tend to find more jobs,more dynamic,and you can find jobs that earn good money and kind of normal.

science degrees however,hard to find jobs,but it can take you to a whole diffrent level of power and creativity
InitialDJay
QUOTE(ham_let @ Aug 11 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]3863612[/snapback]
icon_neutral.gif do you even know what engineers do? you talk about them as if they're mechanics or some $hit embarassedlaugh.gif

yes! but there are different type of engineers.

some regard engineers as a high level career, but some regard them as a blue collar career.

basically industrial, tehnological, and chemical engineer which are on the high end.

and those who are mechnical, electrical, and systematic engineer which are on the lower end.

they're all getting engineering degree and make money more than the average person.

but comparing with those higher status career, engineer is just a name for expensive blue collar labor. laugh.gif

btw, don't listen to me...i might be wrong so don't switch your career over me. i'll feel guilty. embarassedlaugh.gif
Torete_ako_sa_yo
Engineering because engineers know science while science people don't know engineering. Do mechanical/aerospace/automotive, or chemical, or electronic/digital. We always need engineers. Don't do construction management, and computer science, they aren't super rewarding I think.

If you like inventing stuff and discovering different methods of manufacturing, do Industrial Engineering like Hamlet there. Industrial engineers have a good chance of starting their own business because they can find ways of doing something better and faster.
ham_let
The only thing you can do with a science degree is go to med school, pharmacy or dentistry hahaha
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Noir
Be an engineer, preferably mechanical or electrical. That's where the money is. Combine that with an mba from a top 10 school and the sky is the limit for your salary.

Science is worthless unless you plan to go to medical school and even then, you'll be making on par with most engineers unless you go into lucrative fields like radiology or surgery.
Dante
QUOTE(Noir @ Aug 17 2008, 12:25 AM) [snapback]3874855[/snapback]
Be an engineer, preferably mechanical or electrical. That's where the money is. Combine that with an mba from a top 10 school and the sky is the limit for your salary.

Science is worthless unless you plan to go to medical school and even then, you'll be making on par with most engineers unless you go into lucrative fields like radiology or surgery.

an engineer makes around $50,000 a year.

Family doctors make around $120,000.

Specialists make $300,000-$500,000

not even in the same ball park
Noir
QUOTE(|)anté @ Aug 16 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]3874917[/snapback]
an engineer makes around $50,000 a year.

Family doctors make around $120,000.

Specialists make $300,000-$500,000

not even in the same ball park


Family doctors don't pull in that much believe me it's all hype. My whole family is full of doctors. Engineers are pulling in north of 70-80 k after grad school. If you're in electrical or mechanical and are a smart enterprising person, the sky is the limit for your salary.

Med school is 4 years, then you have another 2-5 years of residency where you're pulling down like 30k and piling on hundreds of thousands in debt from tuition before you start seeing some money. For all that trouble you could make so much more as an engineer. Even a bachelors will net you around 50 k if you graduated from a good school. I made the mistake of graduating with a science degree and I have years ahead of me before I start seeing money. I'm on the medical school track.
Dante
The first years of engineering you earn approx. 40k to 50k. Starting pay for just a family doctor is about 75k

Don't forget that you also have to do a pretty lengthy internship before you're certified as an engineer. That takes around 2-4 years too

So they're both hard degrees but rewarding
Noir
QUOTE(|)anté @ Aug 16 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]3875016[/snapback]
The first years of engineering you earn approx. 40k to 50k. Starting pay for just a family doctor is about 75k

Don't forget that you also have to do a pretty lengthy internship before you're certified as an engineer. That takes around 2-4 years too

So they're both hard degrees but rewarding


I agree but if I had to do it all over again I'd do electrical engineering. That says it all. Some of my friends who are engineers own their own homes and are rolling in dough. I'm in thousands of dollars of debt with 6 more years of schooling. Just sayin.
Dante
QUOTE(Noir @ Aug 17 2008, 03:31 AM) [snapback]3875172[/snapback]
I agree but if I had to do it all over again I'd do electrical engineering. That says it all. Some of my friends who are engineers own their own homes and are rolling in dough. I'm in thousands of dollars of debt with 6 more years of schooling. Just sayin.

so ur in first year med school?
ham_let
Lol, do CANADIAN specialists really make $500,000? HAHAHA.

To me, that's not even a real number. Unless you're a CEO or a fu-king hockey player ahaha.
Dante
QUOTE(ham_let @ Aug 18 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]3878654[/snapback]
Lol, do CANADIAN specialists really make $500,000? HAHAHA.

To me, that's not even a real number. Unless you're a CEO or a fu-king hockey player ahaha.

Okay i was looking that up on some unreliable website called salary.com

http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouts...20Practitioners

Maybe thats a little exaggerated, but they do make good $$
Torete_ako_sa_yo
Go engineering, then do medicine or law.

That is the best path for me, I think.
Dante
but if you went science then you could easily ace mcats
Torete_ako_sa_yo
QUOTE(|)anté @ Aug 24 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]3890266[/snapback]
but if you went science then you could easily ace mcats

If you could ace AP tests and Final exams then mcats are nothing to be afraid of.
sbullet
The OP needs to figure this out his/her self. I think its hilarious everyone is telling the OP what his/her career path is. It should be choosen on what types of work interest the OP. If you really choose a career just for the money, boy your in for a fun decade..

Just to clear up some earlier mess, engineers (mechanical, electrical, etc) make roughly $50k to $55k-ish starting salaries fresh out with a bachelors. It is the highest starting salaries out of any other majors.

And FYI, both terms Science and Engineering are very broad terms and often cross paths. Neither of the terms narrow any specific job at all. Hell, even the title Mechanical Engineer (more specified field in engineering) is such a broad term in itself.
ham_let
QUOTE(|)anté @ Aug 17 2008, 01:59 AM) [snapback]3874917[/snapback]
an engineer makes around $50,000 a year.

WHAT?

Industrial designers plateau at around $50K and I've made peace with that, but after a few years in the business, other engineers make WWWWWAAAAYYY more than that.
sinraptor
if your interested in med, engineering can be a good option as more schools are offering biomedical degrees
harold67
The benefit of the Master of engineering is that it is simpler to get into, and easier to finish, at the cost of a less focused education. The benefit of the MS is that you develop great skills in your field and are more able to continue to the PhD.
alienwarship
depends

Science degree such as mathetmics, phyiscs, definitely takes some sort of gift to succeed, like arts you know.

meanwhile most of the engineering subjects and the rest science subjects, you will be fine as long as you work hard and motivied, even if you are just an average guy.
InitialDJay
old topic i know. but let revise it. lol

i'm on track to get my first degree (BSc) next year, a science degree specially in the field of general physics. with this degree, you won't do much compare to an equivalent of an engineering degree like BSET. however it allows you to establish credibility as a graduate student and continue your education to phd.

with BSET, you can apply for most engineering jobs as entry level and work your way up the ladder. no need for master or phd level.

with BSc, the most you can do is working part-time or participate in internship programs (again, you won't be able to conduct research with this degree but in joint-collaboration with a phd person, you may).

so if you decide to major in science field, get at least a master degree. BSc is no use for major career in science field.

or in other words, to be really good in science field, you must get a PHd and with internship experience, you can apply at most private institutions, schools, and laboratory research facilities without much problem.

that's what my academic advisor told me so...
gentoo
The best engineering degree that'd prepare you well for medical school is Chemical Engineering (if your school doesn't have biomedical engineering). The reason is simple, Chemical Engineering students have to take more classes in chemistry (organic chemistry & advanced chemistry classes) compared to other engineering majors, such as Mechanical, Electrical, or Aerospace. Engineering is also an excellent major, besides pre-med, due to its emphasis on team work & problem solving skills.

Of course, in the end, it is all relative to the each individual's abilities and the school that they go to.

Just my 2 cents.
charade
dentistry, pharm, med = order of preference?

i'm currently in dental school. i'd say a vast majority of my classmates are chem and bio majors sprinkled in w/ a few engineering majors. everyone is correct in that a science degree is useless unless you plan on going to a graduate health program. if you want to take the more challenging route and leave your options open, then go for engineering. if you end up choosing dentistry, then i'd do a bio or chem + business

in the states, dentistry has far more potential in terms of income compared to a family practitioner. some of the dentists that i know net anywhere btwn 1 - 2 million. however, overhead is the highest in dentistry, but if you can keep it around 50-60%, you can figure out the math. if you enjoy the spirit of entrepreneurship, are able to develop a strong business accumen, and keep your skills up-to-date by taking CE then you have a lot more income potential as a dentist than a GP. in addition, you have far more autonomy, better lifestyle, shorter working hours,etc . if you get into a competitive residency like ortho or OMFS, then you can easily make > $300K by working 3 days a week. doesn't necessarily have the prestige as medicine if that's what you want...
InitialDJay
job availability in science/engineering technology can changes very rapidly with national and global economic condition. because of that, many graduate students with BSc and MD choose to stay in school to further advance their academic training.

for an engineering major, you should fully expect the competition to be fierce due to its being a highly demanding field, particularly as technology becoming more sophisticated in physical and mechanical system. if i have to guess, electrical and mechanical engineering are going to give you better opportunity to find jobs than lets say, biochemical and civil engineering.

i'm still in the process of deciding what career path i should put more emphasis on because engineering/science is a very broad career. it would be to your advantage if you have a specialty in your study field.
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