Full Version: Your Thoughts On Piracy
Death knell of the music industry or karma working against major label suits and uber-rich musicians?
it's a revolution! 
now poor people can have access on what only the rich and the middle class can have access too.
now poor people can have access on what only the rich and the middle class can have access too.
haha. sure! those poor artists really are going to starve tonight.
i have not pirated any songs in a while and i usually buy an itunes or some sort of prepay card to dl music, but come on! those poor artists instead of driving ferraris enzos they'd buying gallardos!
i have not pirated any songs in a while and i usually buy an itunes or some sort of prepay card to dl music, but come on! those poor artists instead of driving ferraris enzos they'd buying gallardos!
That is why I always download,when I enjoy then I buy the album.
why buy the album when you already downloaded? lol
QUOTE(Selkies @ Aug 12 2008, 07:30 AM) 
why buy the album when you already downloaded? lol
only fake fans retain pirates.
eh tang ina bakit ba ang mahal mahal ng mgra singers?
pirate nlng natin sila..sila na sikat sila pa mapera..
bigyan ng pagkakataon ang mga mahihirap na mag enjoy at their expense..total nageenjoy din nmn sila sa yaman
pirate nlng natin sila..sila na sikat sila pa mapera..
bigyan ng pagkakataon ang mga mahihirap na mag enjoy at their expense..total nageenjoy din nmn sila sa yaman
Twenty (U.S.) dollars is too much for a CD 
. If people aren't willing to shell $5 for gas then what makes you think they're gonna put down a Jackson for music?
. If people aren't willing to shell $5 for gas then what makes you think they're gonna put down a Jackson for music?
theres usually only 1-2 songs i like on the CD, id rather dl.
QUOTE(santoloco @ Aug 12 2008, 02:10 PM)
theres usually only 1-2 songs i like on the CD, id rather dl.
i also do that.
BTW the Charice forum has a very good thread about piracy.
these folks actually want to support her and have good reason.
it is better and economically more safe to make a living on live concerts, but not to forget, Madonna made obscene revenue with her live tour, look it up, and so we have that huge social gap going again, even where piracy does not apply.
the relevant question is, do I want a particular artist to make more music? then I must act to his/her favor.
we need economic structures and business procedures that work in this way, everything else won't solve the problem.
these folks actually want to support her and have good reason.
it is better and economically more safe to make a living on live concerts, but not to forget, Madonna made obscene revenue with her live tour, look it up, and so we have that huge social gap going again, even where piracy does not apply.
the relevant question is, do I want a particular artist to make more music? then I must act to his/her favor.
we need economic structures and business procedures that work in this way, everything else won't solve the problem.
usually i chooses which artist should i support. most local pinoy artist, i don't pirate their wares, just a few whom i don't like i distribute gratis.
with big names international artist, you bet i won't buy at all.
even in the software industry, i pay to the small ones but with behemoths like microsoft and adobe...nada!
with big names international artist, you bet i won't buy at all.
even in the software industry, i pay to the small ones but with behemoths like microsoft and adobe...nada!
Blame it on the Chinese, they are the ones spreading copied stuff on Phils. The fake ones as well.
QUOTE(FlipSides @ Aug 13 2008, 02:18 AM)
Blame it on the Chinese, they are the ones spreading copied stuff on Phils. The fake ones as well.
I don't blame my chinese "cousins" for that.
I think at some point in their careers, artists should do a Radiohead and release an album to where fans name their price (as long as it's reasonable).
I thought this thread was about sea pirates. 
And yes Sea Pirates exist. Some fishermen here who go really far off the coast take weapons just in case they get attacked.
We have CD piracy also. Feds. raided a local flea market where they were selling CD copies. But there seems to be many more that take there place.
And yes Sea Pirates exist. Some fishermen here who go really far off the coast take weapons just in case they get attacked.We have CD piracy also. Feds. raided a local flea market where they were selling CD copies. But there seems to be many more that take there place.
QUOTE(islander @ Aug 13 2008, 04:11 PM)
I thought this thread was about sea pirates. And yes Sea Pirates exist. Some fishermen here who go really far off the coast take weapons just in case they get attacked.
We have CD piracy also. Feds. raided a local flea market where they were selling CD copies. But there seems to be many more that take there place.
And yes Sea Pirates exist. Some fishermen here who go really far off the coast take weapons just in case they get attacked.We have CD piracy also. Feds. raided a local flea market where they were selling CD copies. But there seems to be many more that take there place.
i feel that releasing 2 songs commercially is stupid,i wish we have itunes store in my country.
I only buy pirated CDs of foreign artists. 
I'm hearting my own.
I'm hearting my own.
how can the music/movie/software industry be losing money from me everytime i download when i wouldnt buy anything from them in the first place?
QUOTE(jav_ @ Aug 20 2008, 11:48 AM)
how can the music/movie/software industry be losing money from me everytime i download when i wouldnt buy anything from them in the first place?
true!
The war on piracy is a big bull$hit. Record labels and movie studios should learn how to adapt to the technology trend. What happened when casette recorders/VHS/Betamax came out? They freaked out! But did they loose money? Their execs are usually technologically ignorant 60 year olds who are trigger happy on calling the lawyers to sue anyone who could have diminished their potential revenue.
Their execs are usually technologically ignorant 60 year olds who are trigger happy on calling the lawyers to sue anyone who could have diminished their potential revenue.
I refuse to buy CDs with copyright-protection on them.
QUOTE(orient @ Sep 4 2008, 02:48 PM)
I refuse to buy CDs with copyright-protection on them.
me as well,i plan to live in the country that pirate bay wants to establish.
Piracy is stealing. How would you feel if your hard work is being distributed by somebody else without your permission without giving you royalties.
So keep stealing you guys. It's okay, they make lots of money anyway, it won't come back to bite us in the @$$.
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The level of piracy in the Philippines has greatly affected several industries. IIPA data shows that in 2002, 80% of the motion pictures materials, 40% of the record and music materials, and 61% of the business software applications being sold in Philippine market were pirated. The volume of pirated CDs in the market has certainly increased during the past few years. The VRB has confiscated almost nine million pirated copies of audio and video discs, 16 replicating machines, and 215 CD burners and writers from January 2002 to August 2003.
The motion picture and music industries bear most of the brunt of optical disc piracy. The Philippines is losing much-needed investments because investors worry about copyright infringements. Piracy saps the life out of the legitimate market.
From January 2002 to August 2003, optical disc pirates earned P42.5 billion. This amount should have been a big help to the legitimate industries producing the original compact discs. Most affected by piracy are the small industry players that are unable to sustain their business operations.
In 2002, the motion picture industry suffered a $30 million loss, while the music industry lost $20.9 million due to piracy in the country. These figures would translate into less motion picture and recording production and, eventually, fewer jobs and investments.
The local movie industry’s movie output has already declined. Local artists fail to reach their target sales, some even finding it hard to break even with the production cost of their albums.
Failure of the government to curb piracy may not be beneficial to the international trade relations of the Philippines. The United States does not like the pilferage of US intellectual property and is willing to impose trade sanctions to any country that fails to control optical media piracy.
Ukraine, for instance, was given a trade sanction in 2001. The US suspended the special duty-free status of Ukrainian products due to Ukraine’s failure to stop the unauthorized production of optical media products in their country. The last thing that we would want the US to do is to give us trade sanctions.
The motion picture and music industries bear most of the brunt of optical disc piracy. The Philippines is losing much-needed investments because investors worry about copyright infringements. Piracy saps the life out of the legitimate market.
From January 2002 to August 2003, optical disc pirates earned P42.5 billion. This amount should have been a big help to the legitimate industries producing the original compact discs. Most affected by piracy are the small industry players that are unable to sustain their business operations.
In 2002, the motion picture industry suffered a $30 million loss, while the music industry lost $20.9 million due to piracy in the country. These figures would translate into less motion picture and recording production and, eventually, fewer jobs and investments.
The local movie industry’s movie output has already declined. Local artists fail to reach their target sales, some even finding it hard to break even with the production cost of their albums.
Failure of the government to curb piracy may not be beneficial to the international trade relations of the Philippines. The United States does not like the pilferage of US intellectual property and is willing to impose trade sanctions to any country that fails to control optical media piracy.
Ukraine, for instance, was given a trade sanction in 2001. The US suspended the special duty-free status of Ukrainian products due to Ukraine’s failure to stop the unauthorized production of optical media products in their country. The last thing that we would want the US to do is to give us trade sanctions.
So keep stealing you guys. It's okay, they make lots of money anyway, it won't come back to bite us in the @$$.
QUOTE(Torete_ako_sa_yo @ Sep 21 2008, 01:13 PM)
Piracy is stealing. How would you feel if your hard work is being distributed by somebody else without your permission without giving you royalties.
So keep stealing you guys. It's okay, they make lots of money anyway, it won't come back to bite us in the @$$.
So keep stealing you guys. It's okay, they make lots of money anyway, it won't come back to bite us in the @$$.
i would not care as long as my work is distributed free of charge.
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ Sep 21 2008, 03:52 PM)
i would not care as long as my work is distributed free of charge.
That's because you have another job. What if your family's subsistence depends on your being a musician. Or what if you are a softwar engineer, worked on your program for months, then people all around the world pirate it without giving you any money, and you still have student loans and bills to pay.
I'm sorry but these people rely on an honest market to survive, they're not garage band peeps only looking for notorioty.
You don't make anything worth pirating that's why you act that way.
QUOTE(Torete_ako_sa_yo @ Sep 21 2008, 09:06 PM)
That's because you have another job. What if your family's subsistence depends on your being a musician. Or what if you are a softwar engineer, worked on your program for months, then people all around the world pirate it without giving you any money, and you still have student loans and bills to pay.
I'm sorry but these people rely on an honest market to survive, they're not garage band peeps only looking for notorioty.
You don't make anything worth pirating that's why you act that way.
I'm sorry but these people rely on an honest market to survive, they're not garage band peeps only looking for notorioty.
You don't make anything worth pirating that's why you act that way.
we have to give in to the needs of the people and their budget if you want to get royalties,like softwares should be cheaper.
if we appreciate our fans more,it is more on the fans that buy original,those people will buy the original ones and support you as well those are the fanbase,in short more fans more money,the fans will buy the original ones,i buy the cd's and books of the artist and author i am fan of,mind you all my softwares are all legit,i have original cd's as well.
we should not complain about people swapping cd's and people auctioning their cd's and other copyrighted materials,i know some organizations are complaining about it.
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