There's many kinds out there they all follow a similar route but name the differences if u can smell them.
different rituals for different goals
a pig may be necessary
mabe more pigs
mabe to cure the family's well being
doe that someone owes in some past life and therefore a cow or a hell load of paper money burning

or even things not so familar with such as curing livestocks with spells

EXPLAIN YOUR EXPERIENCES WITH IT...IF YOUR A SHAMAN YOURSELF...SHOOT..THAT'S EVEN BETTER
WHAT DOES YOUR DAD DO WHEN SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR GRANDMOTHER IS VERY SICK...ANY SACRIFICES...an egg and water....what is used and used in what fashion

EXPLAIN IT ANYWAY YOU LIKE.

Tell me more about these rituals.

there's a man in Sacramento that is able to do so...he used to cure livestocks and according to my grandmother her mother knew how to cure animals too.

What about the chicken and the eggs?

Benn your posts are incomprehensible.

I'm gonna bomb my topic now.

I just wanted to hear what u guys say.

THere are many ways to jingle bell as u already all know

I just wanted u guys to speak your mind on it...and share your thoughts and experieneces of what u seen..

The Bomb

There is a different form of Jingle belling on a larger scale.

Many think Chao Fa is simply a revolution force

Chao Fa also has a form of UA NEEJ

Chao Fa shamen are few but those who perform Chao Fa Neej are greatly respected.

From my interpretations, chao fa neej is more efficient.

For rituals that will reqiure animal sacrifice Chao Fa neej replaces that with the use of rocks instead...

yea the shaman/woman places rocks in around the house...and supposedly the rocks helps maintain health within the household..I DON'T KNOW THE FULL STORY

Chao Fa neej can also send unborn babies back if the babies in certain cases CASES OF WHICH I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS...the pregnant woman would simply miscarraige or bear a dead baby....no harm, the baby dies peacefully

THEY CAN CURE LIVESTOCKS...pigs, cows,

THEY RECOGNIZE TITLES...SUCH AS "hua thy"...THIS WAS PA KAO HER

There's few who practice this form of Neej...

For one must know chao fa writing....pahawh writing system.

What i also like about Chao Fa neej is that it does not hold family ties....for Chao Fa is beyond family ties it is Peb Hmoob...it covers all of Hmoob

Im not sure of how neej works but it's usually the same 1 or 2 shaman that performs for the household
these shamen learned from certain masters..usually of the same clan...but they're many masters within a clan that perform different
so not only are there neej performed different between clans but they do it a little different within clans as well.


I don't even think Chao Fa gives much of a damn of Clans
they are one with Peb Hmoob

I also like the use of rocks as a substitute to animal sacrifice....i hope that they'll invent new ways of doing this...C'MON...who wants to sacrifice animals if you can have a choice.

I hope this form of neej be adopted..it's easier..

Plus, Chao Fa neej use really clear words at least the Sacramento Shaman was...i forgot the name....a youngster can actually understand his words...WORD FOR WORD....

yes they chant...yes there are some parts where it's hard to ""COMPREHEND""

BUT THEY DIFFINITELY DO SPEAK CLEAR WHITE HMOOB....MABE THEY'LL BE ONE WHO SPEAKS CLEAN GREEN HMOOB TOO

I don't understand.

What do you mean by bomb and bomb this thread?

So, Chao Fa is a faith?

You are saying then that other forms of Shamanistic rituals cannot be understood and therefore unclear?

By Chao Fa you are speaking about a certain group of people?

My dad knows Chao Fa writing system, he taught it to me a long time ago.

Also, my is Christian so I do not know the Shaman rituals. Therefore we also do not perform them. However, I'm more of a .. what someone called humanist so, I believe I see things more objectively. That perspective makes it seem like I don't really respect or know much, but I just want to know the details. Did you get all your information from that Hmong radio?

not necessarily a faith just a different neej style....it doesn't have enough rules to be a faith....it's simply an easier way of ua neej and to understand for those on the helping hand for the shaman

Bomb=I was just in a rush to hear from ppl that 's all.

Chao fa is simply Lao Hmoob...but those who put it into practice try to be really Hmoob.

Like use clear real hmoob words like Mu for "go" instead of "Pai"
It was a government in the making...but unfortunately never made it
Where Hmoob culture is almost systematically put into use and not just "we're suppose to do it, but we don't have to"
those Pahawh teachers are pretty much an example of it.

Altough don't expect them to live up all the way to it, really now, most don't.

I heard people use crystals too to maintain good luck within a house.

There was this one old lady who was very sick. Me and my dad went to her house to try to help her.And my dad told me to throw some rocks on top of her roof..By the way is pahawh writing the same thing is pali writing?

What does it looks like?

I'm guessing its not. Pali is an old Indian language spokne by Indian Buddhists mainly. Although some of it spread to South East Asia and used mainly among Theravada Buddhists. Its like Latin to Europeans or Snaskrit to Indians not often used and mainly used by religious priests.

at first i think you meant the difference as in ua neej kho, ua neej saib, and etc.

on my mom side of the family, when the shaman ua neej, anyone can understand it. that is if you know hmong well then you can understand it. also sometimes use rocks instead of animal...it just depends on the situation.

there's two types of shamans, ones that learns specific ua neej rituals and performs it exactly same way and the other where they learn the ua neej ritual and then adjust it to the situation. sorry that's the best i can explain it. i've heard shamans use chinese and laotian words when ua neej but mostly they use hmong. a shaman can have as many masters as they need to understand and grow in being a shaman but in general most have one or two. also it depends on the shaman on how difficult they make a ua neej.

i don't think neej has any restriction on clans.
neej is different dab qhuas. dab qhuas is what separates clans and stuff. each clan have their own dab qhuas but any shaman can ua neej for any clan.