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answer here
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=170555

ahahahahaha not suprised......Kumanddie again....ahahaha

Because you guys are just so backward

remember what ur country did to chinese imigrants in the past

we always remember

wth, dont call us bastards cause you broke -_-"

so are malays communist now?

you want the chinese to share everything w/ malays?

because they work harder than you

wow, you guys think you can tell people what to wear ? I guess this attitude explain the rest.

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mandarin is han chinese language. its the essence of china history. that's where the characters derive from. cantonese is a dialect.

if ur country is a democracy then dont force ppl to change their way of life when they dont want to where ur clothes. no offence.

u need to learn something from western nations, even though they appear to not like it, they dont act on it.

In all countries in the world you have offcial languages and rules about when they should be used, outside that people can speak whatever language they want.

But you can't force other people to wear clothes that belong to your ethinicity, China doesn't do that, no country does that.
Also offcial clothes should apply to offcial occasions, outside that you have no right to tell people what to wear.

Im not gonna say that i agree with kummandie, but i want to tell you that whats wrong if we (malay) want to have our own country? chinese have it, african have it, japanese have it, korean have it, all races in the world have it. So what wrong if we want to make MALAYsia as malay country? im not agree with forcing chinese to follow everything that we want, what we eat, what we believe, etc. but atleast agree that malay(in language) is our national language and atleast learn it and dont take it as unimportant language.

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Manchu ?

malay pig

Huh malay pig 10000 years ago you still a pig ,your current history begin in 1400an ,wake up ,malay pig .

No disrespect to you but it is really up to you if you want to be successful or not. The only problem now is we are so weak economically so it is no surprise that the Chinese can dictate and do whatever they want with their money or company. For example, the Malays here (in the US) are so successful that we actually look down at the white, black and hispanic Americans.

I can't remember if it was Indonesia or Malaysia where Chinese were disappearing on a regular in the 70's-80's.

Personally i have no ways to prove nor to provide supporting evidence to this article as to whom might be the authentic author. However, the problem in our existing society is unmistakenly noticable as it sounds and not that i acquiesce all that much with our counterparts across the causeway, but to this i must agree.


http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=169766

Some of the highlights:

-The racial divide has become more acute. The number of Malay
> graduates unemployed is on the increase.


- With that kind of composition, one that is very brainy, naturally Singapore
> , with no natural resources could outstrip Malaysia in every aspect of
> development. Malaysia, on the other hand, was too much preoccupied with its
> Malayness and the illusory 'Ketuanan Melayu' and was also more interested
> in useless mega iconic development rather than real social and economic
> development.


- Lee Kuan Yew believed in calling a spade a spade. I was there in Singapore
> when the People's Action Party won the elections in 1959. He was forthright
> in his briefing to party members as to what was expected of them and what
> Singapore would face in the future. Ideologically, I did not agree with
> him. We in the University of Malaya Socialist Club had a different
> interpretation of socialist reconstruction. But he was a pragmatist and
> wanted to bring development and welfare to the Singaporeans. Well! He
> succeeded.


- Malaysia was so much embroiled in racial politics and due to the fear of
> losing political power, all actions taken by the main party in power was
> never targeted towards bringing wealth to all. Wealth was distributed to
> the chosen few only. They were the cronies and the backers of the party
> leadership to perpetuate their own selfish ends.


- UMNO vested interest only benefited a few and not the whole nation. But due
> to the UMNO-isation of the various instruments of government, the country
> under the present administration had equated UMNO vested interest as being
> that of national interest. Thus development became an avenue of making
> money and not for the benefit of the people. The fight against corruption
> took a back seat. Transparency was put on hold. And the instruments of
> government took it to be of national interest to cater to the vested


- Malaysia in its various attempts to cover up its failures embarked on
> several diversions. It wanted its citizens to be proud that the country had
> the tallest twin-tower in the world, although the structure was designed
> and built by foreigners. Its now a white-elephant wasting away. It achieved
> in sending a man into space at an exorbitant price. For what purpose? These
> are what the Malays of old would say "menang sorak" (hollow victories).

- Why look East to Japan when it is just next door across the
> causeway(this is one bloody cocky statement, however, no further comment).

always remember and dont ever forget....we'll do it again.

1. Yup but so it's a free country - or so said
2. Don't tell us what to wear - why not we all just wear suit just like the westerners less all the other symbolic fancies.
3. I'm proud to be able to communicate with effectiveness in both language and many dialects (yea i like jackie too ).
4. Well not pretty much for this country but for certain group - shouldn't the ethnic group make some noise here.. hellloooOO.

Cheers.





Uncivilized stone age prick. always remember and don't ever forget.. this time. it'll be a lot different ya'll see.

1. Yup but so it's a free country - or so said
2. Don't tell us what to wear - why not we all just wear suit just like the westerners less all the other symbolic fancies.
3. I'm proud to be able to communicate with effectiveness in both language and many dialects (yea i like jackie too ).
4. Well not pretty much for this country but for certain group - shouldn't the ethnic group make some noise here.. hellloooOO.

Cheers.





Uncivilized stone age prick. always remember and don't ever forget.. this time. it'll be a lot different ya'll see.

On its formation in 1963, Malaysia, a federation incorporating Malaya (Peninsular Malaysia), Singapore, North Borneo (Sabah) and Sarawak, suffered from a sharp division of wealth between the Chinese, who were perceived to control a large portion of the Malaysian economy, and the Malays, who were perceived to be more poor and rural. This was the common perception even though the British left all of their conglomerates (mostly plantation sectors) into the hands of the ruling Malays. These already successful companies started by the former colonial masters were the economy of this new born nation which are still going strong till this day.

The 1964 Race Riots in Singapore contributed to the expulsion of that state from Malaysia on 9 August 1965, and racial tension continued to simmer, with many Malays dissatisfied by their newly independent government's perceived willingness to placate the Chinese at their expense.

May i ask you back why? So by the federation of malaya, where we stand now and why you are at your stand? Only you should provide us the answer yea. Cheers

Lol what an angry little whiner.

Hmm.. yea. Who's whinning, "Why fu-king Chinese get higher salary than Malay", presumely you're one of those too.

Uncivilized stone age prick. always remember and don't ever forget.. this time. it'll be a lot different ya'll see.
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Yeah, this time there will be no left overs...

In China 90% of people are Han and speak chinese, thats why there is only 1 offcial language. But in India they have multiple offcial languanges, so as in Canada and some other counties. I think Malasia should have more than one offcial language too. Government can make rules against companies that discrimiate against malays, but the government itself should set an example first by stop discriminating against chinese in government.

imagine how the aborigines felt when the malay took over their lands and named them after their own self instead of negritoasia

yea non that is of yours.

becoz..chinese race is a superior race than a inferior malaysian race.

chinese race vs malaysian race

Usually

Height - malaysian race is much smaller.

Skin - malaysian race is much blacker.

Physical ability - Physical ability of a Malaysian race is much more inferior.

Brain(IQ) - Brain of a malaysian race is much more low.

Face - Appearance of a Malaysian race is much uglier.

such truth may know u too who is a malaysian race.

all thing is becoz a malaysian race is very inferior than a chinese race.

Moderator, flame alert !
Close this thread.

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Probably because ethnic Chinese come together and collectively pull capital. They hire the people they trust because being ethnically Chinese and targeted by the Malay majority gives them more reason to seek solidarity with themselves than with people who want to kick the Chinese out.

So why do they hire Chinese? Because they can trust them more, because they're from the same imagined community.

See. Those who can do, do. Those who can't, teach. That Malay must be rather lousy in his work to get RM600 per month (based on meritocracy, not race).

It is easy to see that the RM1500 Chinese clerk might be of a higher education grad, and higher productivity.

Please do not use a singular extreme example to highlight the difference without further information. A person's pay is relative to experience, productivity, education, effectiveness, efficient-ness. NOT RACE.

Don't be a stupid prick.

In addition to that, there is a large portion of unmotivated malays who would use PRAYERS as an excuse to go lepak-lepak. AND DON'T F**KING get the wrong meaning.. THE FAULT IS AT THOSE LARGE PORTION OF MALAY. NOT WITH THE PRAYERS OR RELIGION. If you can handle the time to pray and time to work effectively, I believe there is no reason to give u a lower pay.

Because we are harder working.

And since your country tries so desperatly emulate American Democracy- your country is invaded by a foreign entity that does better than the majority people. Just like the USA.

Good point mate.

malaysians are pretty cool peoples.

why would anyone want to make them angry

I don't think this is a fair assessment, there may be some people who use prayers as an excuse to bludge, but there is no compelling evidence that this is a widespread practice.

In my experience most people who can earn a buck the quick way by doing less work, will usually try to do so.

Don't generalise as well. "WE" in your case i assume u mean ALL chinese. Which is not true. A majority of chinese work harder because they know they do not enjoy the privilleges as Bumiputras. But there are also a handful of Chinese that are lazy too!

A large portion (again, it is not ALL) of Malays are complacent with their privilleges that they are entitled to.

Thus there is a large consensus that Malays are lazier than Chinese or other races. Until someone can come up with a statistical data to prove, i suggest people to refrain from making such statements. It only stir up unnecessary tension between races.

I believe if we take the worst(the laziest) and the best(the most hardworking ones) from both Chinese community and Malay community to compare, there wouldn't be much of a difference.

(some historical lessons)
Many of you may have the mindset that:
Chinese are cunning businessmen. They will do anything to earn everything.
Malays are lazy. They are useless bums.
Indians are rubber tappers, slaves. Their work is of no prestige.

These stereotyping are UNTRUE and INCORRECT.
If you look closely enough, which of the major races in Malaysia is not criticized in the 3 above statements?
Then think critically: when had these stereotyping started?
Since 2000BC? 100BC? 1500?
No. There wasn't such mindset that long ago.
So, such stereotyping started almost simultaneously and targeted at most Malaysians.
Why?
Have u all forgotten that we were under the wings of portugese and british?
Yes.
It is a move to undermine the confidence of the Asians. By simply categorising us in 3 statements, they effectively divide and conquer us.
This also explains why we often have high regards for Europeans.
Are they definitely better than us in everything?

If you agree with my assumption above, or if it made any sense to u, then why would u still need to get so worked up over alleged stereotyping that should've died 50 years ago after the british left? Are u that fond of collecting historical garbage and treat them as antiques?

We are 50 years behind time,
ISN'T IT TIME TO PUT BYGONES BE BYGONES AND LET MALAYSIANS BE MALAYSIANS?

Yes. There is no evidence that there is a widespread practice of it. I apologize for that statement and would like to rephrase "large portion" to "some".

As long as malays defend their 'privileges' they so called entitled to, they have no right to complain about anything.
'We have more rights because we are the original people, this country belong to us, you are only guests' -- such mindset is so dumb and it's asking for trouble.

A malaysian chinese told me that they have great difficulties to be accepated by an university, and getting government job, malays got those easily. What kind of government does such thing, it's so dumb.

Malaysia should ban and make the racism illegal


for example :
I always always always see, board classifieds
sound like this :
"looking for housemate ,for chinese only"
"looking for roomate for malay only"

etc
etc
etc


that sign of your country actually legalize racism.
i wont be surprised if it going to business matter.


dont follow Japanese

HI PEPS..I'M HERE TO SHARING MY STORY, BTW IM FROM INDONESIA
IN MY CITY THERES ALOT OF MALAY STUDENT WHO WENT TO MY UNIV ESPECIALY IN MEDICAL FACULTY
A COPLE DAYS AGO MY MOM TOLD ME THAT SHE TEACH INTERNATIONAL CLASS WHERE THE MALAY,CHINESE MALAY AND INDIA LEARN IN OUR FACULTY

IN THE BEGINING OF CLASS MY MOM ASKED THEM IF ALL OF THEM CAN SPEAK MELAYU/BAHASA ,ALL SEY YES EXEPT THE CHINESEMALAY STUDENT...
MY MOM SHOO SHOCKED..AND ASKED THEM HOW COME U CANNOT SPEAK MALAY?
THEY SAID THEY GO TO CHINESE SCHOOL SO THATS THE REASON WHY THEY CANT SPEAK MALAY
I WAS LIKE WTF...
EVEN CHINESE INDONESIA THEY CAN SPEAK IN 3 BASIC LAGUAGE, BAHASA, TRADITIONAL INDONESIA LAGUAGE,CHINESE LAGUAGE

I MEAN DONT THE MALAY GOV MAKE SURE ALL SCHOOL IN MALAY LEARN MELAYU...AFTER ALL THEY LIVE IN MALAYSIA...
IN INDONESIA IF THERES CHINESE TALKING IN CHINESE AND CANT SPEAK INDONESIA WE SURE GONNA BEAT THEM UP.....
THEY LIVE IN OUR COUTRY,MAKE MONEY ,EATING RICE FROM OUR LAND AND THEY CANT SPEAK BAHASA...OH BOY THATS WAS SOOO WRONG...
EVEN IN MY FACULTY IF THERES A SMART ,NERD CHINESE AND BECAME ASOCIAL, WE GONNA THEACH THEM OR BEAT THEM...

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"Ketuanan Melayu"
What a joke!

Not true, I personally feel ALL Malaysians should be able to communicate using a common language. Even in Chinese medium schools, BM is also thought, so its not the fault of the school that the student didn't learn BM. You can take a horse to water but you cannot make him drink it. Evenso, I still believe that vernacular schools should go but not before, MARA schools are open up to all races equally and the cucicullum changed to include culture, history and religion of non Malays.

I also feel that Sekolah Agama should go, they are more segregating then the vernacular schools.

you are taking a singular example of a Chinese Malaysian who went to Indonesia to study. HOW MANY F**KING CHINESE MALAYSIAN WOULD GO TO INDONESIA TO STUDY?
Using a special case as an example to show your point? that person might be sons of some datuk in malaysia. Most of the Chinese Malaysian had to struggle to get into public university in Malaysia. Some was denied the chance and didn't even have a choice to study elsewhere BECAUSE THEY ARE POOR.



The fact that you are using all caps for your whole post, and that you are in a 'faculty' who beats up smart student, it goes to show 'how-smart' you are. Pfft.. Given your type of responses, if i am a businessman, do you think i would want to hire you? or anyone from your 'faculty'? or anyone from your university?



Idiots are never low in demand. The beauty of distribution of intelligence in our society.

You stupid fu-ker, people who lived there for generations and you still see them as foreigners, and you think you have the right to beat them up, just because you outnumber them ? I tell you, a lot of mainland chinese are very mad about how chinese indonesians are treated, your lucky that china is not a democracy and the governement didn't want to get involved, but you mess up with chinese indonesians once more and next time china WILL come and teach you bloody indonesians a good lesson once and for all, stupid fu-kers, when did you even have a descent army? all you can do is rape women and mob people. Within 10 years China will have carrier battle groups cruising SE China sea, and we will see what happens if you fools mistreat chinese indonesians. We chinese outnumber you fu-kers all over the world excpet in your own country, but THAT can be changed as well.

If you want people to learn your language, start treating them as your own people, otherwise one day china will grant chinese indonesians chinese passport like Russians do, then china will have a legal basis to take actions.

omg wtf is with this thread