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Sovann
i think there is a confusion regarding this issue. i think this issue can be widely interpreted by different people including myself.

let me offer my opinion.

xigoncongchua, i understand what you mean, in the fact that in your mind, your "ideal khmer face" doesn't match with some of those pictures. it is probably due to your experience by reading those khmers' comment.

however, i may want to say that you might want to take into consideration that some of those khmers never been to cambodia before, and merely based their observation of khmer people in their country, the united states. i could be wrong about tav6 or other members, and if i am, i apologized.

and it would be enlightening for you to go to phnom penh, look at every variety of ladies from the streets, to the markets, to the local shops and to the high rise shopping centres and back to the provinces such as kandal.

that second girl, i have seen some of her kind in phnom penh, that kind of nose that is shaped a bit downward. i know a girl who looks similarly to this and she hails from cambodia.


both zachory and noyume, i agree with them. khmer people can be varied but sometimes they can look siimilar to each other due to occupation, e.g a shopkeeper may look similar to another shopkeeper but look different to the farmer worker or motodop driver. i hope someone know what i mean.


asianetik, would it be okay if you can share us your other experience of women appearances in cambodia? maybe you might have met some international students from cambodia? they represent one part of the many parts of everyday people of cambodia.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Sovann @ Aug 20 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]3883252[/snapback]
i think there is a confusion regarding this issue. i think this issue can be widely interpreted by different people including myself.

let me offer my opinion.

xigoncongchua, i understand what you mean, in the fact that in your mind, your "ideal khmer face" doesn't match with some of those pictures. it is probably due to your experience by reading those khmers' comment.

however, i may want to say that you might want to take into consideration that some of those khmers never been to cambodia before, and merely based their observation of khmer people in their country, the united states. i could be wrong about tav6 or other members, and if i am, i apologized.

and it would be enlightening for you to go to phnom penh, look at every variety of ladies from the streets, to the markets, to the local shops and to the high rise shopping centres and back to the provinces such as kandal.

that second girl, i have seen some of her kind in phnom penh, that kind of nose that is shaped a bit downward. i know a girl who looks similarly to this and she hails from cambodia.
both zachory and noyume, i agree with them. khmer people can be varied but sometimes they can look siimilar to each other due to occupation, e.g a shopkeeper may look similar to another shopkeeper but look different to the farmer worker or motodop driver. i hope someone know what i mean.
asianetik, would it be okay if you can share us your other experience of women appearances in cambodia? maybe you might have met some international students from cambodia? they represent one part of the many parts of everyday people of cambodia.


I don't live in Srok Khmer..... I'm just indicating my parent's family lineage before they escaped to the Americas from the Khmer Rouge Regime.

P.S. I've never met a Cambodian international student ever in my life... but I've seen Khmers who married Cambodian Americans to come live in the states.
SBLucas
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 20 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]3883184[/snapback]
What do you mean Angkorian Khmer looking ? What does an Angkorian Khmer look like ?


Someone who "looks Khmer"... Iono my mom use that phase about my little sister a lot, that she looks like a pretty Khmai angkor.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(SBLucas @ Aug 20 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]3883329[/snapback]
Someone who "looks Khmer"... Iono my mom use that phase about my little sister a lot, that she looks like a pretty Khmai angkor.


My cousin did the same thing to his daughter lol... he keeps calling her all kinds of names like ching chong chinatown no offense though to any other ethnic groups, but yeah she's the only one with really slanted eyes and really pale skin even though both parents are Khmer. I don't know whether there is a certain Khmer Angkor look or what not... I've read in some Khmer history books that the Khmers back during the Khmer Empire Era that they were dark complexion, had chubby cheeks, larger eyes, broad noses, and full lips... that is all I know.
preahvihear
Just want to point out what the French wrote about the looks of the Vietnamese and the Cambodians during the 1800s.

QUOTE
Political divisions of French Indo-China

Annam

The Annamite is of low stature, his limbs are short, his body ungraceful, his hair black and coarse, his mouth big, his lips thick, his nose flat, and his nostrils dilated. His skull is short and rather wide, his cheek-bones protrude, his eyes are lozenge-shaped, his complexion varies from brown to yellow. In Annam both men and women wear their hair rolled up in a chignon, but in Tong-king the women wear their hair in coils around their head. The great blot on the Annamite character is an overpowering tendency towards deceit and dishonesty….Devoted to song, poetry, the theatre, and feasts, his literature is composed mainly of ballads, dramas, romance, and legends—almost all of which are borrowed from the religious traditions of the Khmers— and countless philosophical treatises. Polygamy is recognized by Annamite law, but the first wife alone is married officially and with all the formal rites. Should the first wife die, the husband may take another official wife, even though he has wives of second rank still living. On the death of the husband, the whole management of the family devolves upon the official wife, except in the matter of the sacrifices, which are performed by the eldest son. Even on his marriage the son seldom leaves the house of his parents; to leave home without his father's permission is contrary at once to the laws consecrated by custom and those enacted by the State. It is this very principal which constitutes the sharp distinction between Annamite and Western legislation. To the Annamite legislator, individuals and their interests are no concern—the defence and preservation of these he leaves to the family and the commune. The office of the laws of Annam is to watch over the family and society, to secure obedience to the parental and royal authority.

Cambodia

The Cambodians or Khmers, although their type is in general greatly modified by intermarriage with other races, still preserve the Aryan characteristics. Taller than the Annamite or Thai, their eyes are rarely oblique, their nose is straight and, though their complexion is now yellow, they preserve their agglutinative or polysyllabic language intact in the midst of races speaking isolating or monosyllabic tongues. They practice Buddhism slightly tinged with Brahmanism. Attached to each pagoda is a college of bonzes, who are highly esteemed by every class. The bonzes are easily distinguished from the rest of the people by their shaven heads and yellow robes; they are bound to celibacy, live in community, and depend for their sustenance on the rice they receive each day ready-cooked in the villages. At definite periods they assemble the men in the pagoda and read from the sacred books, written in a language not seldom unintelligible to both reader and audience. Besides the religious books and romances concerning the past existences of the Buddha, the libraries connected to the pagodas contain ancient works dealing with astrology, chiromancy, the vulgar Cambodian tongue, and Pali, together with works on education and historical treatises unfortunately relating only to recent times. The bonzes are also the teachers of the Cambodian youth, and the only teaching body in the kingdom, excepting of course the Catholic orders. The Khmer are monogamous and greatly attached to their families. Marriages, religious ceremonies, the celebration of the first day of the year, the ceremony of the first cutting of the hair, which occupies an important place in the social life, are all occasions of great rejoicing. The theatre is the great national amusement, from the Royal Theatre at Pnom-penh to the little travelling shows which play under the palm or fruit-tree. The parts are enacted by little girls of about fourteen, dressed in costumes exactly like those seen on the bas-reliefs of the ancient ruins.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07765a.htm

Congradufuckalations
Annam is the old name for Vietnamese?
AsiaNETIK


Well this will probably be hard to read since it's been resized by the free hosting site.
preahvihear
QUOTE(Congradufu-kalations @ Aug 20 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]3883392[/snapback]
Annam is the old name for Vietnamese?


Yes.

annamese (noun) 1 Vietnamese, Annamese, Annamite; (2) Vietnamese, Annamese, a native or inhabitant of Vietnam

Adapted From: WordNet 2.0 Copyright 2003 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.

Annamese (n) (1) An•nam•ite \ˈa-nə-ˌmīt\ : a native or inhabitant of Annam; (2) vietnamese; — Annamese adjective, — Annamite adjective
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/dic...amp;va=Annamese

Zachory
QUOTE(preahvihear @ Aug 20 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]3883384[/snapback]
Just want to point out what the French wrote about the looks of the Vietnamese and the Cambodians during the 1800s.


icon_confused.gif but heres another quote i found regarding khmer looks...i don't agree with all of it

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In physical terms Khmers are darker, huskier and taller than their neighbours and most of them have black curly hair. Their eyes tend to be rounder than the other population of the region. Nevertheless, due to a huge variety of ethnics group that have lived in Cambodia and intermarriage, it is difficult to say what a "pure" Cambodian looks like. The traditional dressing is the sarong, dress still worn by khmer and Chams, typically knotted at the waist, but modern dressing is widely spread, particularly in the main cities.

Khmer are in their majority still living in rural areas and in regards to their religion, cultivating its fields and taking care of its family is regarded as an end in itself. Khmer people are friendly and easygoing. They like to be sociable and enjoy their work. In this aspect hard work is often carried out in a very relaxed manner. As religious beliefs stress the temporary nature of earth existence, the importance of spiritual contentment has strong roots in the Cambodian nature. This latter could also explain the amazing courage and optimism that Cambodian display to rebuilt their lives after more than 3 decades of conflicts and civil war
Tav6
LMAO wow khmer are trying hard to makes themselves feel good by trying to tie themselves to the white race


Khmer does not have the "Aryan" look lol and no where in the link it said that embarassedlaugh.gif
Zachory
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]3883431[/snapback]
LMAO wow khmer are trying hard to makes themselves feel good by trying to tie themselves to the white race
Khmer does not have the "Aryan" look lol and no where in the link it said that embarassedlaugh.gif


LOL, you act as if khmer wrote that laugh.gif

okay tav, here's a more acurate description from a british tourist
QUOTE
The Khmer people are so beautiful, they look really different from the Vietnamese, much darker skin, with rounder eyes and mouths and wider noses. The kids are really cute (and know it!) and some of the women are stunning. Loads of the people we have met have had amazing English, often with a kind of posh English accent which cracks us up and they have wicked sense of humours, much less serious than the Vietnamese. The guys we are staying with in Siem Reap are especially sound, its a new guest house affiliated to the one we stayed in in PP.
Zachory
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]3883431[/snapback]
LMAO wow khmer are trying hard to makes themselves feel good by trying to tie themselves to the white race
Khmer does not have the "Aryan" look lol and no where in the link it said that embarassedlaugh.gif


yeah, the quote about khmers being "darker than other populations in the region" is definitely trying to link us with whites icon_rolleyes.gif
preahvihear
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]3883431[/snapback]
LMAO wow khmer are trying hard to makes themselves feel good by trying to tie themselves to the white race Khmer does not have the "Aryan" look lol and no where in the link it said that embarassedlaugh.gif


Khmer people were known to be mixed with the Indians and also the Chinese in the ancient times. biggthumpup.gif Not like "The Annamite is of low stature, his limbs are short, his body ungraceful, his hair black and coarse, his mouth big, his lips thick, his nose flat, and his nostrils dilated. His skull is short and rather wide, his cheek-bones protrude, his eyes are lozenge-shaped, his complexion varies from brown to yellow."

Cambodia

The Cambodians or Khmers, although their type is in general greatly modified by intermarriage with other races, still preserve the Aryan characteristics. Taller than the Annamite or Thai, their eyes are rarely oblique, their nose is straight and, though their complexion is now yellow, they preserve their agglutinative or polysyllabic language intact in the midst of races speaking isolating or monosyllabic tongues. They practice Buddhism slightly tinged with Brahmanism. Attached to each pagoda is a college of bonzes, who are highly esteemed by every class. The bonzes are easily distinguished from the rest of the people by their shaven heads and yellow robes; they are bound to celibacy, live in community, and depend for their sustenance on the rice they receive each day ready-cooked in the villages. At definite periods they assemble the men in the pagoda and read from the sacred books, written in a language not seldom unintelligible to both reader and audience. Besides the religious books and romances concerning the past existences of the Buddha, the libraries connected to the pagodas contain ancient works dealing with astrology, chiromancy, the vulgar Cambodian tongue, and Pali, together with works on education and historical treatises unfortunately relating only to recent times. The bonzes are also the teachers of the Cambodian youth, and the only teaching body in the kingdom, excepting of course the Catholic orders. The Khmer are monogamous and greatly attached to their families. Marriages, religious ceremonies, the celebration of the first day of the year, the ceremony of the first cutting of the hair, which occupies an important place in the social life, are all occasions of great rejoicing. The theatre is the great national amusement, from the Royal Theatre at Pnom-penh to the little travelling shows which play under the palm or fruit-tree. The parts are enacted by little girls of about fourteen, dressed in costumes exactly like those seen on the bas-reliefs of the ancient ruins.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07765a.htm
Tav6
LOL just to prove how stupid your source is


this is what it said

QUOTE
Driving the primitive inhabitants to the mountains, the Aryans possessed themselves of the districts known today as Laos, Cambodia, Siam, Cochin China, and Central and Southern Annam




this mean that central and southern viet has "Aryan" blood as well as cambodia and therefore both viet and khmer should possess some "Aryan" physical trait

and so khmer are not the only one with Aryan physical trait you know embarassedlaugh.gif



Zachory
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Aug 20 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]3883478[/snapback]
LOL just to prove how stupid your source is
this is what it said
this mean that central and southern viet has "Aryan" blood as well as cambodia and therefore both viet and khmer should possess some "Aryan" physical trait

and so khmer are not the only one with Aryan physical trait you know embarassedlaugh.gif


a french man wrote that, so why are you getting mad at khmers?
XigonCongchua
Thanks for correcting me Sovann. At least you're being kind and reasonable, unlike some people icon_wink.gif I appreciate that a lot.

QUOTE(Sovann @ Aug 20 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]3883252[/snapback]
i think there is a confusion regarding this issue. i think this issue can be widely interpreted by different people including myself.

let me offer my opinion.

xigoncongchua, i understand what you mean, in the fact that in your mind, your "ideal khmer face" doesn't match with some of those pictures. it is probably due to your experience by reading those khmers' comment.

however, i may want to say that you might want to take into consideration that some of those khmers never been to cambodia before, and merely based their observation of khmer people in their country, the united states. i could be wrong about tav6 or other members, and if i am, i apologized.

and it would be enlightening for you to go to phnom penh, look at every variety of ladies from the streets, to the markets, to the local shops and to the high rise shopping centres and back to the provinces such as kandal.

that second girl, i have seen some of her kind in phnom penh, that kind of nose that is shaped a bit downward. i know a girl who looks similarly to this and she hails from cambodia.
both zachory and noyume, i agree with them. khmer people can be varied but sometimes they can look siimilar to each other due to occupation, e.g a shopkeeper may look similar to another shopkeeper but look different to the farmer worker or motodop driver. i hope someone know what i mean.
asianetik, would it be okay if you can share us your other experience of women appearances in cambodia? maybe you might have met some international students from cambodia? they represent one part of the many parts of everyday people of cambodia.


@Tav6: no need to argue to some idiots here. Anyone with a brain knows that what they posted were bull$hit.
Zachory
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Aug 20 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]3883486[/snapback]
Thanks for correcting me Sovann. At least you're being kind and reasonable, unlike some people icon_wink.gif I appreciate that a lot.
@Tav6: no need to argue to some idiots here. Anyone with a brain knows that what they posted were bull$hit.


tell your viet friend to quit obsessing over khmer looks

i've noticed this for a long time now laugh.gif
Kdaw_Tmaw
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Aug 20 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]3883486[/snapback]
Thanks for correcting me Sovann. At least you're being kind and reasonable, unlike some people icon_wink.gif I appreciate that a lot.
@Tav6: no need to argue to some idiots here. Anyone with a brain knows that what they posted were bull$hit.

And everyone knows what you think might or might not be of Khmer feature is bull$hit, pale girl.
Guyer
Damn, another good thread gone down the drain.....fu-kin' youns!!!

Zachory
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cListAll&friendID=35929561

QUOTE
Wednesday, November 01, 2006

Lazy Cambodia
Current mood: chilled

Ok so I haven't blogged in ages basically cos I've been having to much of a damn good time in Cambodia so I'll fill you in a little bit of the things that have been happening.


The Khmer people are so beautiful, they look really different from the Vietnamese, much darker skin, with rounder eyes and mouths and wider noses. The kids are really cute (and know it!) and some of the women are stunning. Loads of the people we have met have had amazing English, often with a kind of posh English accent which cracks us up and they have wicked sense of humours, much less serious than the Vietnamese. The guys we are staying with in Siem Reap are especially sound, its a new guest house affiliated to the one we stayed in in PP.


preahvihear
I am not sure who is that Vietnamese "Tav6" is communicating with, but the person is very IMMATURE to even carry on a conversation with here. Vietnamese "Tav6", are you referring to my post or other's? You are obviously don't know anything about the Khmer physical features. We all know that in Southeast Asia, the Vietnamese look more or less Chinese in physical look or feature. It is well known that the Khmer mixed with the Indians in the ancient time. The Khmer people certainly don't look like Vietnamese. In fact the Khmer even mixed with the Chinese settlers as well for crying out loud as observed by the Chinese emissary Zhou Duguan. Therefore, the Aryans were early people in what is now Iran and India. Now you see the connection? The French who colonized the Khmer people during the 1800's also observed the fact that the Khmer looked different from the Vietnamese. I don't know what website you are looking at, but you are too IMMATURE at the moment.

First you said:
QUOTE
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:51 PM)LMAO wow khmer are trying hard to makes themselves feel good by trying to tie themselves to the white race Khmer does not have the "Aryan" look lol and no where in the link it said that


Now you contradict yourself as:
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Aug 20 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]3883478[/snapback]
LOL just to prove how stupid your source is this is what it said this mean that central and southern viet has "Aryan" blood as well as cambodia and therefore both viet and khmer should possess some "Aryan" physical trait and so khmer are not the only one with Aryan physical trait you know embarassedlaugh.gif


How immature you really are and why are you contradicting yourself. I don't know what source you are talking about but check this Catholic Encyclopedia out: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07765a.htm

Yo Viet Pride, Viet Planet, Yo! biggthumpup.gif
BradPittJolie
Hey troll f@g, can you stfu for once. I'd like to read what others have to say regarding the matter. We all know what you're all about so kindly leave this thread alone.

As for the topic, I think some of you should chill. Don't take their comments so seriously cause these fools are just trolling to get some of you rile. Do you really think Xigon knows anything about people's look when she said so herself that she spends most of her time studying indoors so she can shield herself from the sun. She also says that 80% of Viets have bigeyes and double eyelid.

Tav6 is even worst....Viets have the same eyes as Khmers. lol oh yeah, and next he's gonna tell us that Viets have bigger d!cks than Khmers.
Kdaw_Tmaw
Khmer sexy model Ribith Leang




Tav6
QUOTE(preahvihear @ Aug 20 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]3883561[/snapback]
I am not sure who is that Vietnamese "Tav6" is communicating with, but the person is very IMMATURE to even carry on a conversation with here. Vietnamese "Tav6", are you referring to my post or other's? You are obviously don't know anything about the Khmer physical features. We all know that in Southeast Asia, the Vietnamese look more or less Chinese in physical look or feature. It is well known that the Khmer mixed with the Indians in the ancient time. The Khmer people certainly don't look like Vietnamese. In fact the Khmer even mixed with the Chinese settlers as well for crying out loud as observed by the Chinese emissary Zhou Duguan. Therefore, the Aryans were early people in what is now Iran and India. Now you see the connection? The French who colonized the Khmer people during the 1800's also observed the fact that the Khmer looked different from the Vietnamese. I don't know what website you are looking at, but you are too IMMATURE at the moment.

First you said:

Now you contradict yourself as:

How immature you really are and why are you contradicting yourself. I don't know what source you are talking about but check this Catholic Encyclopedia out: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07765a.htm

Yo Viet Pride, Viet Planet, Yo! biggthumpup.gif



this will be my last post in this thread because obviously you and your fellow khmer wants to relate to white people so much that you just don't get the fact that khmer will never look white unless you are 1/2 white embarassedlaugh.gif

first off when I said "khmer does not have the Aryan look" that is in response to your post about how some "French" author said that khmer have "Aryan" features embarassedlaugh.gif and viet does not have "Aryan' features

and then from YOUR link which is from the same source that you use it said that "Driving the primitive inhabitants to the mountains, the Aryans possessed themselves of the districts known today as Laos, Cambodia, Siam, Cochin China, and Central and Southern Annam'

which means that BOTH viet and Khmer should have Aryan features not just khmer ..... see how YOUR source contradict itself???

first it said that Khmer has aryan features ... viet does not .... then it contradict it self and said that Aryan took over cambodia and vietnam ....

if the aryan took over central and southern viet that means VIET must have aryan features as well as khmer

therefore your source is flawed

and also i don't get how some khmer keeps on saying how khmer mixed with Indian in ancient times and thats why khmer look Indian ... but when i google images of cambodian/khmer they look nothing like indian with Aryan features


they look more like eastern Indian that looks really mongoloid and not "Aryan"

Kdaw_Tmaw
Good and stay out.
Zachory
QUOTE(BradPittJolie @ Aug 20 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]3883607[/snapback]
Hey troll f@g, can you stfu for once. I'd like to read what others have to say regarding the matter. We all know what you're all about so kindly leave this thread alone.


Preah Vihear or me?
Guyer
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Aug 20 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]3883663[/snapback]
this will be my last post in this thread because obviously you and your fellow khmer wants to relate to white people so much that you just don't get the fact that khmer will never look white unless you are 1/2 white embarassedlaugh.gif

first off when I said "khmer does not have the Aryan look" that is in response to your post about how some "French" author said that khmer have "Aryan" features embarassedlaugh.gif and viet does not have "Aryan' features

and then from YOUR link which is from the same source that you use it said that "Driving the primitive inhabitants to the mountains, the Aryans possessed themselves of the districts known today as Laos, Cambodia, Siam, Cochin China, and Central and Southern Annam'

which means that BOTH viet and Khmer should have Aryan features not just khmer ..... see how YOUR source contradict itself???

first it said that Khmer has aryan features ... viet does not .... then it contradict it self and said that Aryan took over cambodia and vietnam ....

if the aryan took over central and southern viet that means VIET must have aryan features as well as khmer

therefore your source is flawed

and also i don't get how some khmer keeps on saying how khmer mixed with Indian in ancient times and thats why khmer look Indian ... but when i google images of cambodian/khmer they look nothing like indian with Aryan features


they look more like eastern Indian that looks really mongoloid and not "Aryan"

I always thought that Central and Southern Vietnam have alot of Khmers or Khmer-Viet mix. Maybe that's what the link was implying as far as Aryan features are concerned? Same can be said for Central and Southern Thailand and Southern Laos as well, they are mixed Khmer or have some Khmer blood in their lineage. That's why they are described as having Aryan feature.
Zachory
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Aug 20 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]3883663[/snapback]
they look more like eastern Indian that looks really mongoloid and not "Aryan"


true, i've seen mixed mongoloid/indians through pics and travel shows that can somewhat pass for khmers. i know a few nepalese(co-workers) who sorta look khmer....a look that you viets dont have.
BradPittJolie
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Aug 21 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]3883663[/snapback]
this will be my last post in this thread because obviously you and your fellow khmer wants to relate to white people so much that you just don't get the fact that khmer will never look white unless you are 1/2 white embarassedlaugh.gif

first off when I said "khmer does not have the Aryan look" that is in response to your post about how some "French" author said that khmer have "Aryan" features embarassedlaugh.gif and viet does not have "Aryan' features

and then from YOUR link which is from the same source that you use it said that "Driving the primitive inhabitants to the mountains, the Aryans possessed themselves of the districts known today as Laos, Cambodia, Siam, Cochin China, and Central and Southern Annam'

which means that BOTH viet and Khmer should have Aryan features not just khmer ..... see how YOUR source contradict itself???

first it said that Khmer has aryan features ... viet does not .... then it contradict it self and said that Aryan took over cambodia and vietnam ....

if the aryan took over central and southern viet that means VIET must have aryan features as well as khmer

therefore your source is flawed

and also i don't get how some khmer keeps on saying how khmer mixed with Indian in ancient times and thats why khmer look Indian ... but when i google images of cambodian/khmer they look nothing like indian with Aryan features
they look more like eastern Indian that looks really mongoloid and not "Aryan"


PV is talking about Khmer Kleng, it has nothing to do with being white, moron.
Zachory
tav6, let me remind you again of the facial and eye differences between khmers and vietnamese biggrin.gif

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=120772
McFly
QUOTE(preahvihear @ Aug 20 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]3883384[/snapback]
Just want to point out what the French wrote about the looks of the Vietnamese and the Cambodians during the 1800s.

The Cambodians or Khmers, although their type is in general greatly modified by intermarriage with other races, still preserve the Aryan characteristics. Taller than the Annamite or Thai, their eyes are rarely oblique, their nose is straight and, though their complexion is now yellow, they preserve their agglutinative or polysyllabic language intact in the midst of races speaking isolating or monosyllabic tongues.


For some reason only the Khmer people believe that they are taller then their neigbours. This is not the first time I've seen this topic from the Khmer section. I'm not saying that Vietnamese are tall people but for Khmer to claim that they are taller.... laugh.gif

Country Average Male Height Population

Netherlands 182.5 cm 16,318,199
Denmark 181.5 cm 5,413,392
Switzerland 180.5 cm 7,450,867
Germany 180.2 cm 82,424,609
Croatia 180.0 cm 4,496,869
Norway 180.0 cm 137,253,133
Sweden 179.6 cm 8,986,400
Iran 178.7 cm 67,503,205
Austria 178.2 cm 8,174,762
Finland 178.2 cm 5,214,512
Czech Republic 178.0 cm 10,246,178
Romania 178.0 cm 22,355,551
South Africa 177.4 cm 42,718,530
Zimbabwe 177.2 cm 12,671,860
Australia 177.0 cm 19,913,144
Canada 177.0 cm 32,507,874
United Kingdom 177.0 cm 60,270,708
Greece 176.8 cm 10,647,529
France 176.6 cm 60,424,213
Ukraine 176.5 cm 47,732,079
Iraq 176.3 cm 25,374,691
Lebanon 176.2 cm 3,777,218
Ireland 176.1 cm 3,969,558
Zambia 176.0 cm 10,462,436
Russia 175.9 cm 143,782,338
Belgium 175.6 cm 10,348,276
United States 175.5 cm 293,027,571
Uzbekistan 175.4 cm 26,410,416
Poland 175.3 cm 38,626,349
Egypt 175.0 cm 76,117,421
New Zealand 175.0 cm 3,993,817
Senegal 175.0 cm 10,852,147
Portugal 174.6 cm 10,524,145
Saudi Arabia 174.6 cm 25,795,938
Argentina 174.4 cm 39,144,753
Uruguay 174.3 cm 3,399,237
Brazil 174.0 cm 184,101,109
Cuba 174.0 cm 11,308,764
Peru 173.8 cm 27,544,305
Thailand 173.6 cm 64,865,523
Spain 173.4 cm 40,280,780
Korea, South 173.3 cm 48,598,175
Paraguay 173.1 cm 6,191,368
Syria 173.0 cm 18,016,874
Chile 173.0 cm 15,823,957
Morocco 173.0 cm 32,209,101
Turkey 172.5 cm 68,893,918
Tunisia 172.3 cm 9,974,722
Colombia 172.3 cm 42,310,775
Algeria 172.2 cm 32,129,324
Mexico 171.8 cm 104,959,594
Cameroon 171.0 cm 16,063,678
Indonesia 170.0 cm 238,452,952
China 169.7 cm 1,298,847,624
Pakistan 169.3 cm 159,196,336
Japan 168.3 cm 127,333,002
Mongolia 168.0 cm 2,751,314
India 167.6 cm 1,065,070,607
Italy 165.6 cm 58,057,477
Philippines 165.0 cm 86,241,697
Korea, North 164.9 cm 22,697,553
Malaysia 163.5 cm 23,522,482
Vietnam 162.5 cm 82,689,518
Singapore 162.2 cm 4,353,893
Cambodia 160.0 cm 13,363,421

If you look at the American-born Vietnamese, you'll notice that they tend to be taller than their parents and their counterparts in Vietnam due to the diet and advance healthcare. Why is it so hard for some of you Khmer to understand that? The average height of American-born Vietnamese are 5'7 - 5'10, many are over 6 ft (I'm related to one) but they are still an exception.

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...820836,00.html

Skeletons and written records show that human beings today are inches taller than humans just a century or two ago. And yet even today average heights vary among different nationalities, even among genetically homogenous populations, like the South Koreans and North Koreans. (South Koreans are taller.) John Komlos, professor of economics at the University of Munich and a pioneer in studying human well-being through history, explains what governs human height, and why some populations are taller than others.

Q: Why are people taller today than yesterday?

A: There are two main reasons. One is that the diet has improved considerably. In spite of some very negative aspects of the diet of industrialized populations, we have much better vitamin, mineral and protein intake than 100 or 200 years ago. As a consequence the body can grow much better.

In addition, our health has improved considerably along with medical technology. We have fewer endemic diseases, and fewer epidemic diseases. That is important because an incidence of disease usually means that the nutrients we do consume are not absorbed by the body sufficiently. Diseases lay a claim on our energy intake, so that there is not enough left over for the body to grow. These two factors play a considerable role.

We have been increasing in height for about 140 years. Prior to that, there were cycles in height, depending on economic circumstances and agricultural productivity and so forth. We were relatively tall in the Middle Ages, when population densities were relatively low and food supplies were still fairly adequate. The low point was in the 17th century. Frenchmen, for example, were about 162 cm on average [not quite 5 ft. 4 in.], which is extremely small. Only since about the middle of the 19th century has there been a general trend upwards.

The American population was the tallest in the world from about the American Revolution to World War II — that's a long time. (There is a genetic component to [population] height, but there is very little genetic difference between European populations or their overseas offshoots.) America had a very resource-rich environment, with game, fish and wildlife. In fact we have data on disadvantaged people in America, such as slaves. They were obviously among the most mistreated populations in the world, but given the resource abundance — and given the fact that the slave owners needed their work — they had to be fed relatively decently. So slaves were taller than European peasants. It's no wonder that Europeans were just flooding to America.

[Americans today are no longer the tallest people in the world.] After the Second World War, many Western and Northern European countries began to adopt certain favorable social policies. There is universal health insurance in most of these societies — that, of course, makes a difference in health care. You can also consider income inequality in America, since people who are at the low end of the totem pole have considerable adversity making ends meet. I suspect the difference [in height between Americans and Europeans] is due to both diet and health care.

Americans today suffer from an additional problem: obesity. If children are too well nourished, then they're not able to grow optimally. There are certain hormones that control the onset of the adolescent growth spurt and the onset of adolescence. Nutrition is one of the factors, along with genetic and hormonal ones, that are associated with the onset of puberty. Overnutrition prior to adolescence may affect the hormonal system and may produce too much growth hormone prior to puberty, so that sex steroids are produced earlier. And if that comes too early, then the youth will peak out sooner, and will not become as tall in adulthood as someone who had better nutrition. Also, the overload of carbohydrates and fats in a fast-food diet may hinder the consumption of micronutrients essential to growth.




Zachory
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Zachory
^its bull$hit laugh.gif

khmers didnt say anything, these were just quotes embarassedlaugh.gif
AsiaNETIK
Man what's up with this all our good threads about Khmer Girls always get screwed over with some Yuun crap all the time lol. Is it even relevant to be on the Khmer/Cambodian section ????? Yes I'm harsh and it's because I do not want to learn anything about Vietnam for the moment.
McFly
QUOTE(preahvihear @ Aug 20 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]3883561[/snapback]
I am not sure who is that Vietnamese "Tav6" is communicating with, but the person is very IMMATURE to even carry on a conversation with here. Vietnamese "Tav6", are you referring to my post or other's? You are obviously don't know anything about the Khmer physical features. We all know that in Southeast Asia, the Vietnamese look more or less Chinese in physical look or feature. It is well known that the Khmer mixed with the Indians in the ancient time. The Khmer people certainly don't look like Vietnamese. In fact the Khmer even mixed with the Chinese settlers as well for crying out loud as observed by the Chinese emissary Zhou Duguan. Therefore, the Aryans were early people in what is now Iran and India. Now you see the connection? The French who colonized the Khmer people during the 1800's also observed the fact that the Khmer looked different from the Vietnamese. I don't know what website you are looking at, but you are too IMMATURE at the moment.

First you said:

Now you contradict yourself as:

How immature you really are and why are you contradicting yourself. I don't know what source you are talking about but check this Catholic Encyclopedia out: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07765a.htm

Yo Viet Pride, Viet Planet, Yo! biggthumpup.gif


Yes, we are Vietnamese not Khmer so of course we look different from you.

Vietnamese people, Vietnamese culture, and Vietnam as a country are very beautiful. We don't need to look like anyone else. We have some of the most beautiful women in the world so why should we care if our eyes are slanted or not. If big eyes were the thing then I'm pretty sure white guys wouldn't be going for Asain girls.

If Khmer people claim that we look like Southern Chinese, then let it be. We (S.Chinese and Viet) were once the same group of people that branched out so no big deal. Infact I have a lot of Chinese blood in me but I'm still Vietnamese from the heart. Though understand from a Western point of view we all look Chinese..... beerchug.gif



AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(McFly @ Aug 20 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]3883899[/snapback]
Yes, we are Vietnamese not Khmer so of course we look different from you.

Vietnamese people, Vietnamese culture, and Vietnam as a country are very beautiful. We don't need to look like anyone else. We have some of the most beautiful women in the world so why should we care if our eyes are slanted or not. If big eyes were the thing then I'm pretty sure white guys wouldn't be going for Asain girls.

If Khmer people claim that we look like Southern Chinese, then let it be. We (S.Chinese and Viet) were once the same group of people that branched out so no big deal. Infact I have a lot of Chinese blood in me but I'm still Vietnamese from the heart. Though understand from a Western point of view we all look Chinese..... beerchug.gif


Can you even follow what the thread topic is even called ? Here let me bold it out for you again.... Beautiful Khmer Girls 2008
Zachory
QUOTE(McFly @ Aug 21 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]3883899[/snapback]
Yes, we are Vietnamese not Khmer so of course we look different from you.

Vietnamese people, Vietnamese culture, and Vietnam as a country are very beautiful. We don't need to look like anyone else. We have some of the most beautiful women in the world so why should we care if our eyes are slanted or not. If big eyes were the thing then I'm pretty sure white guys wouldn't be going for Asain girls.

If Khmer people claim that we look like Southern Chinese, then let it be. We (S.Chinese and Viet) were once the same group of people that branched out so no big deal. Infact I have a lot of Chinese blood in me but I'm still Vietnamese from the heart. Though understand from a Western point of view we all look Chinese..... beerchug.gif


your ppl are ugly....IMO.... ch!nky asians are not good looking, they tend to have a "funny" look
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Zachory @ Aug 20 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]3883912[/snapback]
your ppl are ugly....IMO.... ch!nky asians are not good looking, many have a "funny" look


Man I think your a troll and it's because your account was just created today too.

P.S. There's no need to call people ugly because there's a lot of Khmers who have that slanted eyed look too along with some who look ugly @$$ hell too... there will always be good looking and ugly looking people for every different ethnicity.
Zachory
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 21 2008, 01:04 AM) [snapback]3883915[/snapback]
Man I think your a troll and it's because your account was just created today too.

P.S. There's no need to call people ugly because there's a lot of Khmers who have that slanted eyed look too along with some who look ugly @$$ hell too... there will always be good looking and ugly looking people for every different ethnicity.


cool but isn't it the light skinned asians who tend to have that funny/weird look?
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Zachory @ Aug 20 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]3883925[/snapback]
cool but isn't it the light skinned asians who tend to have that funny/weird look?


Khmers are light skinned too have you seen Phnom Penh girls before ?
Zachory
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 21 2008, 01:09 AM) [snapback]3883927[/snapback]
Khmers are light skinned too have you seen Phnom Penh girls before ?


i speak from an asian-american POV
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Zachory @ Aug 20 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]3883930[/snapback]
i speak from an asian-american POV


How are you going to find the girl of your dreams if your going to be picky about her facial features ? We can't be picky when it comes to things like this honestly. I don't care how a person looks like they may differ in physical features and such but people will always look beautiful in their own ways man. If they have what you like then it's just a plus for you.
McFly
QUOTE(AsiaNETIK @ Aug 20 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]3883911[/snapback]
Can you even follow what the thread topic is even called ? Here let me bold it out for you again.... Beautiful Khmer Girls 2008


Yeah you might want to bold that for your Khmer buddies. I wouldn't have to jump in if you guys didn't have to put down Vietnamese people. Every fckn thread about "Khmer's looks" have to include Vietnamese people. Just leave us out. You have every right to be proud of your looks but putting down someone else then expect a retaliation.

I'm beginning to think you guys are getting jealous.

BTW, you need to tell your buddie Zachory to grow up. He's making Khmer people look very bad......
Guyer
QUOTE(McFly @ Aug 21 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]3883947[/snapback]
Yeah you might want to bold that for your Khmer buddies. I wouldn't have to jump in if you guys didn't have to put down Vietnamese people. Every fckn thread about "Khmer's looks" have to include Vietnamese people. Just leave us out. You have every right to be proud of your looks but putting down someone else then expect a retaliation.

I'm beginning to think you guys are getting jealous.

BTW, you need to tell your buddie Zachory to grow up. He's making Khmer people look very bad......


Hey buddy, your viet pal tav6, started it.
XigonCongchua
^ I think all she did was asking why there's no tan-skin girl in the pageant. It all started when somebody dragged the Viet look in.

This thread is about Khmer girls, so please talk about Khmer girls and Khmer look and leave us Vietnamese out.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(McFly @ Aug 20 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]3883947[/snapback]
Yeah you might want to bold that for your Khmer buddies. I wouldn't have to jump in if you guys didn't have to put down Vietnamese people. Every fckn thread about "Khmer's looks" have to include Vietnamese people. Just leave us out. You have every right to be proud of your looks but putting down someone else then expect a retaliation.

I'm beginning to think you guys are getting jealous.

BTW, you need to tell your buddie Zachory to grow up. He's making Khmer people look very bad......


Dude can you look at his post and the day he joined ? He looks like a troll to me honestly and the thing is he's bad mouthing about the East Asian look and I have never said anything about it.

QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Aug 20 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]3883960[/snapback]
^ I think all she did was asking why there's no tan-skin girl in the pageant. It all started when somebody dragged the Viet look. This thread is about Khmer girls, so please talk about Khmer girls and Khmer look and leave us Vietnamese out.


So what about Khmer Krom girls would they still be considered Khmers or Vietnamese ? embarassedlaugh.gif
McFly
QUOTE(Zachory @ Aug 20 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]3883925[/snapback]
cool but isn't it the light skinned asians who tend to have that funny/weird look?


Oh you mean the kind of funny/weird look that won the Miss Universe 2007 Pageant?

Zachory
the problem is TAV6 has a thing for khmer looks...or the dark SEA look...have you seen some of her previous comments? always trying to prove that vietnamese look just as much SEA like the khmers.... or how viet facial features can look similar to khmers. this is something i've noticed for a long time and not just recently

its obvious viets look more similar to chinese than to khmesr...but she seems to have a problem with that
XigonCongchua
@AsiaNETIK: that is up to you to decide. Just leave the ethnic Viet/Kinh out of here. We're happy with how we look and we don't need anyone else to tell us the otherwise.
AsiaNETIK
QUOTE(Zachory @ Aug 20 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]3883968[/snapback]
the problem is TAV6 has a thing for khmer looks...or the dark SEA look...have you've seen some of her previous comments? always trying to prove that vietnamese look just as much SEA like the khmers....this is something i've noticed for a long time and not just recently

its obvious viets look more similar to chinese than khmer...but she seems to have a problem with that


You are a troll lol... You know her previous posts and such... seems kinda odd there when you just barely joined today.
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