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Buddhalove
Ranking:

Gold: Thailand: HIV/AIDS: 570,000 (2003 est.)
Silver: Burma: HIV/AIDS: 330,000 (2003 est.)
Bronze: Vietnam: HIV/AIDS: 220,000 (2003 est.)

4/ Cambodia: HIV/AIDS: 170,000 (2003 est.)
5/ Indonesia: HIV/AIDS: 110,000 (2003 est.
6/ Malaysia: HIV/AIDS: 52,000 (2003 est.)
7/ Singapore: HIV/AIDS: 4,100 (2003 est.
8/ Laos: HIV/AIDS: 1,700 (2003 est.)
9/ Brunei: HIV/AIDS: 200 (2003 est.)

SoCal
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 19 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]3880665[/snapback]
Ranking:

Gold: Thailand: HIV/AIDS: 570,000 (2003 est.)
Silver: Burma: HIV/AIDS: 330,000 (2003 est.)
Bronze: Vietnam: HIV/AIDS: 220,000 (2003 est.)

4/ Cambodia: HIV/AIDS: 170,000 (2003 est.)
5/ Indonesia: HIV/AIDS: 110,000 (2003 est.
6/ Malaysia: HIV/AIDS: 52,000 (2003 est.)
7/ Singapore: HIV/AIDS: 4,100 (2003 est.
8/ Laos: HIV/AIDS: 1,700 (2003 est.)
9/ Brunei: HIV/AIDS: 200 (2003 est.)





How about percentage ratio of the popopulation?
SeanMoran
QUOTE(SoCal @ Aug 20 2008, 01:14 AM) [snapback]3880723[/snapback]
How about percentage ratio of the popopulation?

Shhh! If everyone else worked that bit out it would ruin his dastardly plan. nono.gif

Buddhalove
Proportion to the country's population, somewhere about:

Cambodia: 1.2%
Thailand: .8 %
Burma: .66 %
Vietnam: .26 %

Pretty much 570,000 people in thailand are living with AIDS, and i think they still deserve GOLD.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 20 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]3880773[/snapback]
Proportion to the country's population, somewhere about:

Cambodia: 1.2%
Thailand: .8 %
Burma: .66 %
Vietnam: .26 %

Pretty much 570,000 people in thailand are living with AIDS, and i think they still deserve GOLD.

Apparently they've identified a variation between AIDS from the USA and AIDS in SEA. The former lasts over ten years while the latter has been found to often last less than a decade.

For that reason alone, the USA must get the GOLD on the long-distance AIDS races.

Buddhalove
QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Aug 19 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]3880764[/snapback]
Shhh! If everyone else worked that bit out it would ruin his dastardly plan. nono.gif


How did you do with HIV ?

QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Aug 19 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]3880790[/snapback]
Apparently they've identified a variation between AIDS from the USA and AIDS in SEA. The former lasts over ten years while the latter has been found to often last less than a decade.

For that reason alone, the USA must get the GOLD on the long-distance AIDS races.


Not quiet lo$er. Estimated number of people living with HIV in Thailand, end 2007: 610,000 people. So it's increasing. While US is declining. Fact is Fact.

SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 20 2008, 01:49 AM) [snapback]3880826[/snapback]
How did you do with HIV ?
Not quiet lo$er. Estimated number of people living with HIV in Thailand, end 2007: 610,000 people. So it's increasing. While US is declining. Fact is Fact.

Just be careful with the facts you play with or you might end up accidentally making Thailand look good, and we can't have that here in the Laos chat, oh no! The number one purpose of Laos Chat is to insult Thailand and promote the great american way, so maybe AIDS wasn't the right topic to thread, but for now let's go along with your rantings. embarassedlaugh.gif

GOLD medal Thailand. Hurrah! party.gif


Buddhalove
GOLD medal for thailand for having the most people living with AIDS than any SE asian countries. Ain't you happy for them Seanmoron?
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 20 2008, 01:58 AM) [snapback]3880844[/snapback]
GOLD medal for thailand for having the most people living with AIDS than any SE asian countries. Ain't you happy for them Seanmoron?

That would depend on which subset of errorprone facts you wish to promote.

As much as you might find this hard to understand, not everyone finds pleasure in the misfortune of others, and even some people who have never been ill still don't really see the tragic events in the lives of others as a way to boost their own egos and self-importance. Still, if it makes you happy to think of other people dying then good on you. I hope you get AIDS too. beerchug.gif
Buddhalove
Dude, learn how to separate fact and fiction even though you're sickly. I have nothing to do with thailand AIDS epidemic. Maybe you should blame thai people themselves.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 20 2008, 02:10 AM) [snapback]3880886[/snapback]
Dude, learn how to separate fact and fiction even though you're sickly. I have nothing to do with thailand AIDS epidemic. Maybe you should blame thai people themselves.

You just started this thread, and now you turn around and claim that you have nothing to do with it?

Have you been drinking?
Buddhalove
Seanmoron, i was just giving you facts. How hard is that to understand. shrug.gif
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 20 2008, 02:19 AM) [snapback]3880926[/snapback]
Seanmoron, i was just giving you facts. How hard is that to understand. shrug.gif

Your facts are misguided. Get that into your thick skull and see if you can think up something less depressing for your next anti-Thai insults while you're at it.

Is that too hard for you to understand? Is there someone in the room right now who might be able to help you to grasp the meaning of this? crazy.gif

MandingJinZhanShi
i dont even wanna hear that the darker the s.e. asians are the higher the aids % are
Buddhalove
QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Aug 19 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]3880934[/snapback]
Your facts are misguided. Get that into your thick skull and see if you can think up something less depressing for your next anti-Thai insults while you're at it.

Is that too hard for you to understand? Is there someone in the room right now who might be able to help you to grasp the meaning of this? crazy.gif


How is that misguided, when those are official transcripts ? confused.gif
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 20 2008, 02:26 AM) [snapback]3880949[/snapback]
How is that misguided, when those are official transcripts ? confused.gif

Work it out for yourself, fool. Talktohand.gif
ham_let
lol I read that as "in SF"

I'm going to hell.
Buddhalove
QUOTE(MandingJinZhanShi @ Aug 19 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]3880942[/snapback]
i dont even wanna hear that the darker the s.e. asians are the higher the aids % are


possible, many that got infected are working class.

QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Aug 19 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]3880953[/snapback]
Work it out for yourself, fool. Talktohand.gif


hahaaaaahha, too bad you can not handle the truth. Prove to me that my data was not true, you don't have any. biggthumpup.gif
applepannic
QUOTE(MandingJinZhanShi @ Aug 19 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]3880942[/snapback]
i dont even wanna hear that the darker the s.e. asians are the higher the aids % are


Indonesia has 230 million people, but their AIDS case is amongst the lowest.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 20 2008, 02:31 AM) [snapback]3880967[/snapback]
possible, many that got infected are working class.
hahaaaaahha, too bad you can not handle the truth. Prove to me that my data was not true, you don't have any. biggthumpup.gif

Sure is true how a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, from what you are ranting on about.
Buddhalove
QUOTE(applepannic @ Aug 20 2008, 03:18 AM) [snapback]3881924[/snapback]
Indonesia has 230 million people, but their AIDS case is amongst the lowest.


Yeah, proportional to their pop size.
QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Aug 20 2008, 03:26 AM) [snapback]3881938[/snapback]
Sure is true how a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, from what you are ranting on about.


What little knowledge, how hard is that to grasp ? thailand has over half million people living with AIDS and that's another sad story for human kind. don't you see ?
Buddhalove
how come i don't see any thai member say anything. too much for them to handle.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 03:22 AM) [snapback]3883370[/snapback]
how come i don't see any thai member say anything. too much for them to handle.

Probably because the OP was the idiot who ran this thread in the Lao chat. rockon.gif
Buddhalove
Did i say Thai or Aussie ? hint: Thai. asskick.gif
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 03:30 AM) [snapback]3883390[/snapback]
Did i say Thai or Aussie ? hint: Thai. asskick.gif

Maybe if you can't handle the truth you shouldn't have asked such a stupid question? rockon.gif

Buddhalove
I asked a legitimate question. didn't know thai need Aussie to defend them. shrug.gif
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 03:43 AM) [snapback]3883412[/snapback]
how come i don't see any thai member say anything. too much for them to handle.


I asked a legitimate question. didn't know thai need Aussie to defend them. shrug.gif

I answered your legitimate yet foolish question, you dill.

If an Eskimo answered your stupid question, would that make it any less true? rockon.gif

Buddhalove
I want to hear from the thai members, you're overdoing yourself, so piss off. kick.gif
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 03:53 AM) [snapback]3883433[/snapback]
I want to hear from the thai members, you're overdoing yourself, so piss off. kick.gif

What will you do if you don't get what you want? Keep on bumping and whining? rockon.gif

You made a stupid mistake and now you are to much of a coward to simply admit it. It does seem to be common practice for teenagers from single-parent families. Have you ever met your daddy?
Buddhalove
do i need to clarity again.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 03:58 AM) [snapback]3883448[/snapback]
do i need to clarity again.

No. You just need to accept that you fucked up and stop bumping your meaningless ill-placed trolling threads. rockon.gif


Buddhalove
Can you believe this ?

http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/07/bangkok_...ts_billing.html

Let's take the issue of HIV testing. In the US, most of Europe and Australia, a person is not considered HIV infected until a minimum of two criteria have been satisfied--testing positive first to a screening test, which is usually an ELISA test, and then to a confirmatory test, which is almost always the Western Blot. In the US, in fact, if the ELISA is positive, it is usually repeated, then if positive again the Western Blot is run. And if that's positive, the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommends that the entire set of tests be run again, on a new blood sample, to reduce the chances that the tests could be reacting to one of the over 70 common conditions that are documented to cause false positives.

In Thailand, on the other hand, people are routinely pronounced HIV positive based on only two screening tests--two ELISAs or an ELISA and a GPA. The more specific Western Blot is used only if the two screening tests disagree. This has many problems. The ELISA and similar tests were developed to be super sensitive, as a means of screening blood donations. This means they are more likely to be falsely reactive to almost any condition that causes antibody proliferation in the blood. These conditions can be as common as the common cold, flu, herpes, pregnancy or past pregnancy, drug abuse, numerous viral and bacterial infections and many others. Moreover, according to Dr. Praphan Phanuphak, Aids specialist at Chulalongkorn University, in Thailand both tests are usually run on the same single blood sample, which means that if there is some condition causing a false positive, nobody is bothering to wait for the condition to clear and then get a second sample to be sure before declaring the unfortunate person positive.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 04:27 AM) [snapback]3883504[/snapback]
Can you believe this ?

http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/07/bangkok_...ts_billing.html

Let's take the issue of HIV testing. In the US, most of Europe and Australia, a person is not considered HIV infected until a minimum of two criteria have been satisfied--testing positive first to a screening test, which is usually an ELISA test, and then to a confirmatory test, which is almost always the Western Blot. In the US, in fact, if the ELISA is positive, it is usually repeated, then if positive again the Western Blot is run. And if that's positive, the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommends that the entire set of tests be run again, on a new blood sample, to reduce the chances that the tests could be reacting to one of the over 70 common conditions that are documented to cause false positives.

In Thailand, on the other hand, people are routinely pronounced HIV positive based on only two screening tests--two ELISAs or an ELISA and a GPA. The more specific Western Blot is used only if the two screening tests disagree. This has many problems. The ELISA and similar tests were developed to be super sensitive, as a means of screening blood donations. This means they are more likely to be falsely reactive to almost any condition that causes antibody proliferation in the blood. These conditions can be as common as the common cold, flu, herpes, pregnancy or past pregnancy, drug abuse, numerous viral and bacterial infections and many others. Moreover, according to Dr. Praphan Phanuphak, Aids specialist at Chulalongkorn University, in Thailand both tests are usually run on the same single blood sample, which means that if there is some condition causing a false positive, nobody is bothering to wait for the condition to clear and then get a second sample to be sure before declaring the unfortunate person positive.

After having had blood transfusions in Rayong Public Hospital, I'm grateful that the blood donations are tested in such a manner that they might err on the cautious side. It was always a worry of mine until I got my blood test results back in early 2007 and I was HIV negative, thank goodness.

As it happened I did contract pneumonia in that hospital, but I don't know if pneumonia is transmissible through a blood transfusion. I'd guess not.

Sto, how do you feel about those who contract HIV from blood transfusions anyway? Have you read April Fool's Day by Bryce Courtenay? It tells a lot about how ignorant people try to lump such unlucky people in with drug users and gays. 90% of the World's people are morons.
SoCal
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 19 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]3880773[/snapback]
Proportion to the country's population, somewhere about:

Cambodia: 1.2%
Thailand: .8 %
Burma: .66 %
Vietnam: .26 %

Pretty much 570,000 people in thailand are living with AIDS, and i think they still deserve GOLD.



We need to help Thailand and Southeast Asians to avoid HIV/AIDS.
Buddhalove
QUOTE(SoCal @ Aug 20 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]3883550[/snapback]
We need to help Thailand and Southeast Asians to avoid HIV/AIDS.


SEarnmoron think he cans take care all thailand problems by himself.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 04:48 AM) [snapback]3883574[/snapback]
SEarnmoron think he cans take care all thailand problems by himself.

Are you drunk? Having trouble using your keyboard tonight?

How would you propose we find a cure for AIDS, Einstein?
Buddhalove
QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Aug 20 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]3883586[/snapback]
Are you drunk? Having trouble using your keyboard tonight?

How would you propose we find a cure for AIDS, Einstein?


Over half a million living with AIDS in thailand is little bit over due. Thailand should ask Laos and China why they're able to keep their AIDS down. Perhaps bad tourist might have something to do with it. Example Seanmoron.

SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 05:21 AM) [snapback]3883668[/snapback]
Over half a million living with AIDS in thailand is little bit over due. Thailand should ask Laos and China why they're able to keep their AIDS down. Perhaps bad tourist might have something to do with it. Example Seanmoron.

Obviously you're drunk and obnoxious as always.

Maybe you could explain firstly what China has to do with SEA?

Then, if you increase the Lao population twelvefold, you might be better able to ease your own pathetic confusion and see that it's all much the same across the world, per capita.

Lastly, your example shows what a twat you are as I've already mentioned that the greatest risk I had of catching AIDS in Thailand was from blood transfusions with little relevance to the tourist problem that you mentioned. I was never a tourist in Thailand anyway.

Yes, it is possible that HIV positive tourists have brought AIDS with them. What are you going to do about it? Ban tourism?

Idiot. rockon.gif
Buddhalove
you forgot to mention about the wh@ore house in thailand, your favorite place.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 05:33 AM) [snapback]3883707[/snapback]
you forgot to mention about the wh@ore house in thailand, your favorite place.

I'm sorry if I can't always remember the dregs of your own imagination.

rockon.gif
Buddhalove
Even thai members don't even deny about the big Wh@ore house in thailand, and many got infected with AIDS that way. If you don't believe me go ask Jek Nhoona, Earla and Peacman. shrug.gif
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Buddhalove @ Aug 21 2008, 05:46 AM) [snapback]3883740[/snapback]
Even thai members don't even deny about the big Wh@ore house in thailand, and many got infected with AIDS that way. If you don't believe me go ask Nhoona, Erla and Peacman. shrug.gif

This is sadly quite true. Where you go wrong is when you associate me with that sort of sordid side of a small part of the tourist industry. I don't hide the fact that I did celebrate USA Independence Day 2006 with a girl I met on Sukh. Soi 8 and it lasted three days before we parted as friends.

Safe sex, whatever. If it wasn't with me then she'd have been with someone else, and nobody got AIDS from each other. I wasn't working at the time either. To my mind, it's a vastly different situation being on a break from work to being at work all week as a teacher and bumping ugly on weekends. Never the twain should collide, but that was a once-off rare and enjoyable experience after having heard so much about the goings on down at Nana and Cowboy et al. for the last year.

For God's sake man, I was cooped up in Bumrungrad the year before looking out the window at all the action and never got to play any part of it. So the next year I did. It was great. No school teacher was I at the time that week, and everybody happy. There you have it - my sex-tourist exploits in Thailand. That was three days over twelve months of living there in total.

So, maybe if we can get the thread off my own personal life, what does this have to do with AIDS in SEA? I reckon that there are more than a few men and women who fly from countries with an affluent exchange-rate other countries and get their rocks off. Mostly men, and it is generally assumed that it is far easier for a man to pass AIDS on to a woman during intercourse because it is transmitted by blood or somesuch. Consequently, Rayong has suffered a very high incidence of HIV, due to it being in close proximity with Pattaya, where the "in-the-know" HIV positive sex-tourists congregate to pay for Issan farmers' daughters' love long time.

No doubt that there would be far less AIDS in Thailand if not for the ugly HIV positive Pattaya sex-tourists, but what does that tell you about the Laos tourist industry, seeing we're here in the Lao Chat? Apart from the massive population difference, the only other difference is probably that few americans even know where Laos is. Put any nation in the same situation, and the statistics will be basically exactly the same.



Buddhalove
You're telling us that you spent 3 days out of 12 months in the Rayong's Wh@ore house and we have to believe you. –shrug Safe sex is not guarantee 100% that you won’t get infected. Wondering why you’re sickly. 1.6 millions tourist visited Laos last years, and most are for something else, and not for the wh@re house like in Thialand; well you just don’t offer one; there you have it.
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